Self Proclaimed Illuminati Insider on Agenda for Humanity

AscendingStarseed · 12-05-2009, 10:33 AM

Dialogue with "Hidden Hand", Self-Proclaimed Illuminati Insider

This self-proclaimed Illuminati Insider appeared on the "Above Top Secret" forum in October 2008, giving away information about the Illuminati Agenda and their goals. The reason for this, he says, is because time is right for us to know some of what is going on behind the scenes. And when he explains WHY he needs to reveal it now, it's very convincing. In this article I will post the dialogue between the "Above Top Secret Forum" members and "Hidden Hand" in its entirety.

Ever wondered who is "on top of the Pyramid?" He gives us a clue. The bloodline he represents is well above the Rothschild's in power and in the hierarchy and is extra-terrestrial in origin. The 13 bloodlines we have been talking about thus far on this website and others, with the Rothschild's in a top position together with the Merovingian Nobility, are quite low rank in the Big Pyramid Structure, and are the ones playing a power game here on Earth, only aware of parts of the Big Game (a need to know basis). The bloodline "Hidden Hand" is supposedly belonging to is way more advanced and higher rank.

His answers may need to be read more than once to understand the different layers of what he is telling us. Afterwards, when you start connecting the dots you notice that a lot of pieces in the big puzzle that previously were missing and left unanswered, suddenly fit.

It's been hard to perceive what ULTIMATELY drives the Illuminati. Greed? Yes. Power? Of course. Control? Sure. But you always have this feeling that there is a deeper mystery behind their "Great Work of the Ages". This may very well be the answer!

When you are done reading this article and feel inspired, please go to the website, Law of One, and start absorbing the information presented there. It is a huge database on the same subject, but extensively expanded. Both these article, may if we read them with understanding plus an open mind and an open heart, show us the real so[u]lution to the New World Order [def] problem.

Here's the link to the dialogue between the Above Top Secret members [ATS] and "Hidden Hand" [HH],

http://wespenre.blogspot.com/2009/02...hand-self.html

artvision · 12-05-2009, 01:04 PM

Hi AscendingStarseed,

This information is in the same perspective of this one, from 2005:

http://www.scribd.com/doc/403303/The...y-Insider-2005

Some information is true, some is not. One issue is for sure, they are doing their job, us we must do ours! We suppose not feel personal hate towards them. They are somehow, just as "tools" in a more extensive sense. We cannot be upset on the knife that is stubbing us, or on a bullet that is piercing us, because that are tools.

Worthwhile lecture that should make us think for a moment! Thank you for bringing to our attention!

Bloodoftheberry · 12-05-2009, 01:29 PM

I was immensely impressed by the Hidden Hand discourse when I first read it and, over a year later, the information still resonates strongly with me. I have noticed that a lot of the people who consider it disinformation generally tend to dwell on the unimportant aspects of the dialogue (for instance, his predictions) and ignore the essential aspects (his explanations on how to become more Service to Others, which are faultless). A sincere and undoubted compassion radiates from his final posts.

If anyone is interested in exploring the Hidden Hand discourse further, I actually wrote a commentary on it for my website.

Part 1: http://www.metamorpheus.co.uk/?p=258

Part 2: http://www.metamorpheus.co.uk/?p=247

Regarding the 'other' insider, I would estimate that his information is maybe 35-40% accurate at best. His notion that we are living in a prison is flawed, and not a healthy outlook for developing souls to adopt.

The term 'prison' is redundant in a free will universe.

AscendingStarseed · 12-06-2009, 06:07 AM

Thank you Artvision and BloodoftheBerry for responding, I am quite impressed with the work as well...although I'm still processing some of the material and plan on doing another read-thorough to get a better understanding on some of the points. But, overall considering the source it seems to get down to the core nature of the agenda.

This is the first time I've seen it and was hoping to get some good feedback from PA members like yourself...thanks!

Moxie · 12-07-2009, 05:50 AM

You could do a search on this site for Hidden Hand, it went the rounds here over a year ago I think.

xlsander · 12-07-2009, 09:29 AM

i was impressed by the info as well - it actually made me discover the LOO and has lead me onto a path i very much appreciate and am endlessly grateful for.

I also wrote a song about it:

keep the light shinin gmy friends :-)

AscendingStarseed · 12-07-2009, 12:34 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by xlsander

i was impressed by the info as well - it actually made me discover the LOO and has lead me onto a path i very much appreciate and am endlessly grateful for.

I also wrote a song about it:

YouTube- hidden hand - L.A.soon

keep the light shinin gmy friends :-)

Thanks for the video...very well done!

micjer · 12-07-2009, 02:45 PM

Yes that is quite a video. Here are the words.

from the perspective of a Service to Self entity
from the highest ranks of the powers that be

I was born to be bad
I was born to be cruel
my bloodline reaches back
I'm the ancient new
and everytime you cry
everytime you lie
everytime you fight
and everytime you die
you're making us stronger can you believe this
we're playing you all and you just can't see it
since all we have to do
is to divide you
and keep our hands on the truth

there's nothing you can do
we rule over you
we keep you out
we take from you
until the last drop
till the days stop
you'll never be one, no

and we laugh at you
yea we're laughing at you
and we laugh at you
yea we're laughing at you
and we laugh at you
yea we're laughing at you
and we laugh at you
yea we're laughing at you

they came down the skies
flying serpents
they had knowledge about DNA created earthlings
and they left you here
left us here
to teach you who you're not
no matter how cruel you just can't see it
that all you have to do is to believe in
you're all one from the same source
you're interconnected souls
too late
the next ascenscion is ours to make

there's nothing you can do
we rule over you
we keep you out
we take from you
until the last drop
till the days stop
you'll never be one, no

and we laugh at you
yea we're laughing at you
and we laugh at you
yea we're laughing at you
and we laugh at you
yea we're laughing at you
and we laugh at you
yea we're laughing at you

Thunderbird · 12-07-2009, 04:49 PM

That was a very insightful and illuminating post Starseed.

I am 80% through the material and all of it so far resonates very deeply with me.

Thank you so much for bringing this.

Jonah · 12-07-2009, 05:15 PM

It's gonna be a battle for sure... and they want you to have doubt as to what the outcome will be. Their game all over.

xlsander · 12-07-2009, 06:48 PM

thank you - glad you liked it

and yes really well written article - thank you!

I was completely resonating with the underlying LOO info when i read it a year back

at that time i had no affiliation with conspiracies and spirituality

so this has been a huge eye opener -and since then i have been reading and seeking

and finding - so in that sense i like to regard this as a productive catalyst.

i know that on DC or in the L/L forum anything STS related often is not really

liked to be discussed - although DC is way stricter about that.

anyway - i liked your comments and thoughts - and it has been interesting for me

to re-read some of the core material after this time passed and i had learned and discovered so much in between

thats the spiral right there :-)

Derek · 12-08-2009, 03:45 AM

Thank you so much for posting this. Since reading it (2 days ago) its changed my perspective on alot of things and has brought me closer to the law of one (which i was in the process of reading before)

AscendingStarseed · 12-08-2009, 06:46 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by micjer

Yes that is quite a video. Here are the words.

from the perspective of a Service to Self entity
from the highest ranks of the powers that be

I was born to be bad
I was born to be cruel
my bloodline reaches back
I'm the ancient new
and everytime you cry
everytime you lie
everytime you fight
and everytime you die
you're making us stronger can you believe this
we're playing you all and you just can't see it
since all we have to do
is to divide you
and keep our hands on the truth...
there's nothing you can do
we rule over you
we keep you out
we take from you
until the last drop
till the days stop
you'll never be one, no

Thanks, I didn't catch all of the lyrics

mu2143 · 12-08-2009, 08:17 AM

I'm sorry to burst your bubble, but the the Law Of One is part of the New Age Agenda. there playing both evil and good!

Because there ultimate plan is to inslave us using our free will, but they have to brake you first. Why do you think there was no disclosure , it is because there plan was to create chaos first and then present you with a Messiah. New technology cure for aids and cancer etc check the new Serie V its in there

The first thing they want to do is to create a problem that wil cause to dollar to devalue futher then they can blame it on that!!!. This wil be the start of the first crysis!!!. The second wave of the Lab virus still has to hit America thats what you have to watch for.

The PTB already released the second upgraded version in the Ukraine and it is just a matter of time when it is going to hit the USA.

There is going to be more trouble in the Middle east with Israel/Iran etc and Dubai on a Economic bases. It is already falling apart and just another crysis wil brake it down.!!!!

2010 wil be the time where the first thing are going to happen!!!

Stardustaquarion · 12-08-2009, 10:57 AM

It is interesting and certainly backs up the information of the Voyager Book II from Ashayana Dean (which has much more detail) Not sure about yaweh being the Earth soul...

AscendingStarseed · 12-08-2009, 11:12 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by mu2143

I'm sorry to burst your bubble, but the the Law Of One is part of the New Age Agenda. there playing both evil and good!

Why do you think there was no disclosure , it is because there plan was to create chaos first and then present you with a Messiah.

The first thing they want to do is to create a problem that wil cause to dollar to devalue futher then they can blame it on that!!!. This wil be the start of the first crysis!!!. The second wave of the Lab virus still has to hit America thats what you have to watch for.

The PTB already released the second upgraded version in the Ukraine and it is just a matter of time when it is going to hit the USA.

There is going to be more trouble in the Middle east with Israel/Iran etc and Dubai on a Economic bases. It is already falling apart and just another crysis wil brake it down.!!!!

2010 wil be the time where the first thing are going to happen!!!

Don't worry, you're not bursting my bubble! I don't live in a religious fairy tale that believes in a Messiah and don't relate to this whole "New Age" movements either. Nor do I care to watch V another Illuminati propaganda series that programs peoples minds with a bunch of ****....in fact, I rarely turn the TV on anymore. Although up until about 2 months ago, it was on 24/7...it was usually news, history, discovery, nat geo, science.

I'm well aware of everything you mention above and much more, you're preaching to the choir baby...

mu2143 · 12-08-2009, 05:25 PM

O well if only David Wilcock figure it out that the Law Of One is another trap.

The problem is that there is some kind technology bloking our soul memory
and because our DNA past life memory is switch off aswell.

If this thing is on the moon then the only thing what they have to do is to remove the moon.

Some people had a Vision of 2 Moons where one of them is in pieces then if Alex Collier is right about what he said that there is an object closing in that is friendly then it is getting realiy interresting.

http://www.youtube.com/user/EyesWide.../0/368bJEmArc4

xlsander · 12-10-2009, 10:00 AM

have you ever read the LOO yourself?

AscendingStarseed · 12-10-2009, 10:31 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by xlsander

have you ever read the LOO yourself?

I started to read it, but didn't finish it

xlsander · 12-10-2009, 10:53 AM

i was asking mu since he said it is a trap - i havent finished it myself - but it is really just awesome - hard to describe or to compare to most of other things i have read. i also read carla's 101 the choice (very recommendable) - and bits of the wanderer's handbook (need to finish that) - L/L research's work very much resonates with me - and carla is such a loving person - as you could tell from various chats (on brng4th weekly or so) with her and i also liked her recent short video interview a lot - i am very glad to have came across this material and it literally changed my life - to the better! and the catalyst for that has been the H_H postings

lightblue · 12-10-2009, 11:06 AM

I quite undesstand why you didn't finish it..quite frankly i find the same - the text is too tedious, non sequetial..and then you have the brainies claiming they undestand it..in some cases forming quasi cult like following where one or two have the inspiration to interpret it tou you. It does not hold water, i am afraid. have you tried posting a commment on d wilcock's site that it's not completely in keeping with his faultless interpretations? You won't get far! And then he is ranting on about negativity in us and why it is that he gets hate mail etc etc..i feel he's gone well off course..sad. i most honestly hope and pray that he would get back to his good senses and drop the story about his latest holywood production movie..i do hope he gets back to basics, we need pepole like himself.

equally and i do strongly agree with NEO a few posts back - the self proclaimed illluminati's text is most insulting. sick propaganda of a derranged and wicked mind.. nonsense. i wish i never layed my eyes on it..it's all distraction and contamination.

rather than; succumb to a pre-planned scenario of whoever and whatever group, i'd say: walk tall, focus and fear not...and i read somwhere, maybe here: where focus goes, energy flows!

bestest to us all

Anchor · 12-10-2009, 11:19 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by lightblue

It does not hold water, i am afraid. have you tried posting a commment on d wilcock's site that it's not completely in keeping with his faultless interpretations? You won't get far! And then he is ranting on about negativity in us and why it is that he gets hate mail etc etc..i

What is the connection between David Wilcock and the Law Of One?

They usually get assaulted in the same posts but they are very different things. Except for the fact that DW refers to it as a high quality channel - and has to "channelled" Ra? Is that the connection? Aside from the Ra connection there is no link between DW and the LOO series.

So yes if I could ever be bothered to post on DW's website and it was a contrary view - I know that I would get shut down. What has that to do with the quality or validity of the LOO material itself ?

DW doesn't intend to lead sheep, but there are sheep there. Not his fault.

Even if you buy that he channeled Ra, channeling is not the same as being - I have listened to all the publicly available changelings that DW did of Ra and at no time did "Ra" ever say anything to suggest that DW's credibility was any different to yours or mine.

Quote:

Originally Posted by lightblue

i'd say: walk tall, focus and fear not...and i read somwhere, maybe here: where focus goes, energy flows!

Bingo! I totally agree.

A..

xlsander · 12-10-2009, 11:53 AM

the H_H postings lead me to the LOO and it opened a whole new view on my life's essential questions of who i am and why i am - any why here etc.

and i consider the LOO and especially the way L/L handles this as very very empowering and free for individuality - not cultish in any way (CoM seems differen there to me) - L/L actually refuses to go out and make the material known agressively - carla sais the people whom it gives something will find it and often in magical and in mysterious ways -
just like our universe works.

also, i dont have any problem with DW and what people tend to call his "ego"
I believe his ambitions are absolutely legitimate - after all we are living in 3D and
his message is empowering and he seems to be very supportive to all people.

I have met him in person in zürich last summer and the guy seemed very down to earth to me

what is the problem in wanting to accomplish a movie project?

i, for one, think the idea is great and i wish him best of success!

lightblue · 12-10-2009, 01:39 PM

i too wish all the best to all wishing to promote an uplifting self-empowering mode to everyone of us.

in response to LLA and DW comment by Anchor - despite aknkowledging DW as a well wishing character, I have noticed that on his website unilateral thinking is promoted - eithr love me or go away sort of thing..thank god for Bill and Kerry, for, there isn't a trace of an ego that's more and more found on DW's. With due rspect I maintain that his site khas become cultish - he has things to to with LLO and he strongly endorses his and his follower's take on it.

Would like to stress that though channeling can be a valuable source of info, it can also be false, or mislleading. the entity being channeled can be corrupt and/or become corrupt. I'd say caution is sorely needed. I am also guessing that a lot of us are being used as channels (with or without our intent) as of late in particular..I am stating this from my own experience. The messages i got were verbaly most explicit , but i keep an open mind and keep them to myself as they may be misleading.. there are so many forces at play and one must set aside one's own ego to be able to count the messages being funneled down our mind as relevant these days..and they are only relevant if they are relevant to us all..there should not be any conditions..we are in the same boat. Bill and kerry got that. not sure about DW and his take on Ra and LLO any more.

angels fly becausee they take themselves lightly

bestest from NW2 london, uk
on a gloriuos sunny day
off cycling, enjoying the day..

xlsander · 12-10-2009, 01:53 PM

I agree and all Q'uo session start like this:

We are those known to you as the principle of Q’uo. We greet you in the love and in the light of the one infinite Creator, in whose service we come to this circle this evening. It is a privilege and a pleasure to be called to your circle of seeking. We thank you for the honor and we are glad to speak to the one known as D.

However, as always, we would ask that all of those who listen to or read these words exercise discernment, choosing from those opinions which we share the thoughts that resonate and that seem helpful, leaving the rest behind without a single thought. For in this way, you shall safeguard the processes of your own evolution. And we shall feel that comfort that comes from knowing that we shall not be infringing upon your free will in any way. We thank you for this consideration.

12-05-2009, 10:33 AM	#1
AscendingStarseed Avalon Senior Member Join Date: Oct 2009 Location: Los Angeles, Ca Posts: 355	Self Proclaimed Illuminati Insider on Agenda for Humanity Dialogue with "Hidden Hand", Self-Proclaimed Illuminati Insider This self-proclaimed Illuminati Insider appeared on the "Above Top Secret" forum in October 2008, giving away information about the Illuminati Agenda and their goals. The reason for this, he says, is because time is right for us to know some of what is going on behind the scenes. And when he explains WHY he needs to reveal it now, it's very convincing. In this article I will post the dialogue between the "Above Top Secret Forum" members and "Hidden Hand" in its entirety. Ever wondered who is "on top of the Pyramid?" He gives us a clue. The bloodline he represents is well above the Rothschild's in power and in the hierarchy and is extra-terrestrial in origin. The 13 bloodlines we have been talking about thus far on this website and others, with the Rothschild's in a top position together with the Merovingian Nobility, are quite low rank in the Big Pyramid Structure, and are the ones playing a power game here on Earth, only aware of parts of the Big Game (a need to know basis). The bloodline "Hidden Hand" is supposedly belonging to is way more advanced and higher rank. His answers may need to be read more than once to understand the different layers of what he is telling us. Afterwards, when you start connecting the dots you notice that a lot of pieces in the big puzzle that previously were missing and left unanswered, suddenly fit. It's been hard to perceive what ULTIMATELY drives the Illuminati. Greed? Yes. Power? Of course. Control? Sure. But you always have this feeling that there is a deeper mystery behind their "Great Work of the Ages". This may very well be the answer! When you are done reading this article and feel inspired, please go to the website, Law of One, and start absorbing the information presented there. It is a huge database on the same subject, but extensively expanded. Both these article, may if we read them with understanding plus an open mind and an open heart, show us the real so[u]lution to the New World Order [def] problem. Here's the link to the dialogue between the Above Top Secret members [ATS] and "Hidden Hand" [HH], http://wespenre.blogspot.com/2009/02...hand-self.html

12-05-2009, 01:04 PM	#2
artvision Avalon Senior Member Join Date: Feb 2009 Posts: 328	Re: Self Proclaimed Illuminati Insider on Agenda for Humanity Hi AscendingStarseed, This information is in the same perspective of this one, from 2005: http://www.scribd.com/doc/403303/The...y-Insider-2005 Some information is true, some is not. One issue is for sure, they are doing their job, us we must do ours! We suppose not feel personal hate towards them. They are somehow, just as "tools" in a more extensive sense. We cannot be upset on the knife that is stubbing us, or on a bullet that is piercing us, because that are tools. Worthwhile lecture that should make us think for a moment! Thank you for bringing to our attention!

12-05-2009, 01:29 PM	#3
Bloodoftheberry Avalon Senior Member Join Date: Feb 2009 Location: South Wales, UK Posts: 19	Re: Self Proclaimed Illuminati Insider on Agenda for Humanity I was immensely impressed by the Hidden Hand discourse when I first read it and, over a year later, the information still resonates strongly with me. I have noticed that a lot of the people who consider it disinformation generally tend to dwell on the unimportant aspects of the dialogue (for instance, his predictions) and ignore the essential aspects (his explanations on how to become more Service to Others, which are faultless). A sincere and undoubted compassion radiates from his final posts. If anyone is interested in exploring the Hidden Hand discourse further, I actually wrote a commentary on it for my website. Part 1: http://www.metamorpheus.co.uk/?p=258 Part 2: http://www.metamorpheus.co.uk/?p=247 Regarding the 'other' insider, I would estimate that his information is maybe 35-40% accurate at best. His notion that we are living in a prison is flawed, and not a healthy outlook for developing souls to adopt. The term 'prison' is redundant in a free will universe.

12-06-2009, 06:07 AM	#4
AscendingStarseed Avalon Senior Member Join Date: Oct 2009 Location: Los Angeles, Ca Posts: 355	Re: Self Proclaimed Illuminati Insider on Agenda for Humanity Thank you Artvision and BloodoftheBerry for responding, I am quite impressed with the work as well...although I'm still processing some of the material and plan on doing another read-thorough to get a better understanding on some of the points. But, overall considering the source it seems to get down to the core nature of the agenda. This is the first time I've seen it and was hoping to get some good feedback from PA members like yourself...thanks!

12-07-2009, 05:50 AM	#5
Moxie Avalon Senior Member Join Date: Apr 2009 Location: Beaver Lake, AR Posts: 402	Re: Self Proclaimed Illuminati Insider on Agenda for Humanity You could do a search on this site for Hidden Hand, it went the rounds here over a year ago I think.

12-07-2009, 09:29 AM	#6
xlsander Avalon Senior Member Join Date: Aug 2009 Posts: 32	Re: Self Proclaimed Illuminati Insider on Agenda for Humanity i was impressed by the info as well - it actually made me discover the LOO and has lead me onto a path i very much appreciate and am endlessly grateful for. I also wrote a song about it: keep the light shinin gmy friends :-)

12-07-2009, 02:45 PM	#8
micjer Avalon Senior Member Join Date: Sep 2008 Location: Ont. CANADA Posts: 1,043	Re: Self Proclaimed Illuminati Insider on Agenda for Humanity Yes that is quite a video. Here are the words. from the perspective of a Service to Self entity from the highest ranks of the powers that be I was born to be bad I was born to be cruel my bloodline reaches back I'm the ancient new and everytime you cry everytime you lie everytime you fight and everytime you die you're making us stronger can you believe this we're playing you all and you just can't see it since all we have to do is to divide you and keep our hands on the truth there's nothing you can do we rule over you we keep you out we take from you until the last drop till the days stop you'll never be one, no and we laugh at you yea we're laughing at you and we laugh at you yea we're laughing at you and we laugh at you yea we're laughing at you and we laugh at you yea we're laughing at you they came down the skies flying serpents they had knowledge about DNA created earthlings and they left you here left us here to teach you who you're not no matter how cruel you just can't see it that all you have to do is to believe in you're all one from the same source you're interconnected souls too late the next ascenscion is ours to make there's nothing you can do we rule over you we keep you out we take from you until the last drop till the days stop you'll never be one, no and we laugh at you yea we're laughing at you and we laugh at you yea we're laughing at you and we laugh at you yea we're laughing at you and we laugh at you yea we're laughing at you

12-07-2009, 04:49 PM	#9
Thunderbird Avalon Senior Member Join Date: Sep 2008 Location: Florida Posts: 309	Re: Self Proclaimed Illuminati Insider on Agenda for Humanity That was a very insightful and illuminating post Starseed. I am 80% through the material and all of it so far resonates very deeply with me. Thank you so much for bringing this.

12-07-2009, 05:15 PM	#10
Jonah Avalon Senior Member Join Date: Sep 2008 Location: Sacramento Ca Posts: 366	Re: Self Proclaimed Illuminati Insider on Agenda for Humanity It's gonna be a battle for sure... and they want you to have doubt as to what the outcome will be. Their game all over.

12-07-2009, 06:48 PM	#11
xlsander Avalon Senior Member Join Date: Aug 2009 Posts: 32	Re: Self Proclaimed Illuminati Insider on Agenda for Humanity thank you - glad you liked it and yes really well written article - thank you! I was completely resonating with the underlying LOO info when i read it a year back at that time i had no affiliation with conspiracies and spirituality so this has been a huge eye opener -and since then i have been reading and seeking and finding - so in that sense i like to regard this as a productive catalyst. i know that on DC or in the L/L forum anything STS related often is not really liked to be discussed - although DC is way stricter about that. anyway - i liked your comments and thoughts - and it has been interesting for me to re-read some of the core material after this time passed and i had learned and discovered so much in between thats the spiral right there :-) Last edited by xlsander; 12-07-2009 at 06:59 PM.

12-08-2009, 03:45 AM	#12
Derek Avalon Senior Member Join Date: Dec 2009 Location: ogden, utah Posts: 84	Re: Self Proclaimed Illuminati Insider on Agenda for Humanity Thank you so much for posting this. Since reading it (2 days ago) its changed my perspective on alot of things and has brought me closer to the law of one (which i was in the process of reading before)

12-08-2009, 08:17 AM	#14
mu2143 Avalon Senior Member Join Date: Sep 2008 Location: Holland,Netherlands Posts: 470	Re: Self Proclaimed Illuminati Insider on Agenda for Humanity I'm sorry to burst your bubble, but the the Law Of One is part of the New Age Agenda. there playing both evil and good! Because there ultimate plan is to inslave us using our free will, but they have to brake you first. Why do you think there was no disclosure , it is because there plan was to create chaos first and then present you with a Messiah. New technology cure for aids and cancer etc check the new Serie V its in there The first thing they want to do is to create a problem that wil cause to dollar to devalue futher then they can blame it on that!!!. This wil be the start of the first crysis!!!. The second wave of the Lab virus still has to hit America thats what you have to watch for. The PTB already released the second upgraded version in the Ukraine and it is just a matter of time when it is going to hit the USA. There is going to be more trouble in the Middle east with Israel/Iran etc and Dubai on a Economic bases. It is already falling apart and just another crysis wil brake it down.!!!! 2010 wil be the time where the first thing are going to happen!!!

12-08-2009, 10:57 AM	#15
Stardustaquarion Avalon Senior Member Join Date: Dec 2009 Posts: 897	Re: Self Proclaimed Illuminati Insider on Agenda for Humanity It is interesting and certainly backs up the information of the Voyager Book II from Ashayana Dean (which has much more detail) Not sure about yaweh being the Earth soul...

12-08-2009, 05:25 PM	#17
mu2143 Avalon Senior Member Join Date: Sep 2008 Location: Holland,Netherlands Posts: 470	Re: Self Proclaimed Illuminati Insider on Agenda for Humanity O well if only David Wilcock figure it out that the Law Of One is another trap. The problem is that there is some kind technology bloking our soul memory and because our DNA past life memory is switch off aswell. If this thing is on the moon then the only thing what they have to do is to remove the moon. Some people had a Vision of 2 Moons where one of them is in pieces then if Alex Collier is right about what he said that there is an object closing in that is friendly then it is getting realiy interresting. http://www.youtube.com/user/EyesWide.../0/368bJEmArc4 Last edited by mu2143; 12-08-2009 at 05:40 PM.

12-10-2009, 10:00 AM	#18
xlsander Avalon Senior Member Join Date: Aug 2009 Posts: 32	Re: Self Proclaimed Illuminati Insider on Agenda for Humanity have you ever read the LOO yourself?

12-10-2009, 10:53 AM	#20
xlsander Avalon Senior Member Join Date: Aug 2009 Posts: 32	Re: Self Proclaimed Illuminati Insider on Agenda for Humanity i was asking mu since he said it is a trap - i havent finished it myself - but it is really just awesome - hard to describe or to compare to most of other things i have read. i also read carla's 101 the choice (very recommendable) - and bits of the wanderer's handbook (need to finish that) - L/L research's work very much resonates with me - and carla is such a loving person - as you could tell from various chats (on brng4th weekly or so) with her and i also liked her recent short video interview a lot - i am very glad to have came across this material and it literally changed my life - to the better! and the catalyst for that has been the H_H postings

12-10-2009, 11:06 AM	#21
lightblue Avalon Senior Member Join Date: Oct 2009 Posts: 360	Re: Self Proclaimed Illuminati Insider on Agenda for Humanity I quite undesstand why you didn't finish it..quite frankly i find the same - the text is too tedious, non sequetial..and then you have the brainies claiming they undestand it..in some cases forming quasi cult like following where one or two have the inspiration to interpret it tou you. It does not hold water, i am afraid. have you tried posting a commment on d wilcock's site that it's not completely in keeping with his faultless interpretations? You won't get far! And then he is ranting on about negativity in us and why it is that he gets hate mail etc etc..i feel he's gone well off course..sad. i most honestly hope and pray that he would get back to his good senses and drop the story about his latest holywood production movie..i do hope he gets back to basics, we need pepole like himself. equally and i do strongly agree with NEO a few posts back - the self proclaimed illluminati's text is most insulting. sick propaganda of a derranged and wicked mind.. nonsense. i wish i never layed my eyes on it..it's all distraction and contamination. rather than; succumb to a pre-planned scenario of whoever and whatever group, i'd say: walk tall, focus and fear not...and i read somwhere, maybe here: where focus goes, energy flows! bestest to us all

12-10-2009, 11:53 AM	#23
xlsander Avalon Senior Member Join Date: Aug 2009 Posts: 32	Re: Self Proclaimed Illuminati Insider on Agenda for Humanity the H_H postings lead me to the LOO and it opened a whole new view on my life's essential questions of who i am and why i am - any why here etc. and i consider the LOO and especially the way L/L handles this as very very empowering and free for individuality - not cultish in any way (CoM seems differen there to me) - L/L actually refuses to go out and make the material known agressively - carla sais the people whom it gives something will find it and often in magical and in mysterious ways - just like our universe works. also, i dont have any problem with DW and what people tend to call his "ego" I believe his ambitions are absolutely legitimate - after all we are living in 3D and his message is empowering and he seems to be very supportive to all people. I have met him in person in zürich last summer and the guy seemed very down to earth to me what is the problem in wanting to accomplish a movie project? i, for one, think the idea is great and i wish him best of success! Last edited by xlsander; 12-10-2009 at 11:56 AM.

12-10-2009, 01:39 PM	#24
lightblue Avalon Senior Member Join Date: Oct 2009 Posts: 360	Re: Self Proclaimed Illuminati Insider on Agenda for Humanity i too wish all the best to all wishing to promote an uplifting self-empowering mode to everyone of us. in response to LLA and DW comment by Anchor - despite aknkowledging DW as a well wishing character, I have noticed that on his website unilateral thinking is promoted - eithr love me or go away sort of thing..thank god for Bill and Kerry, for, there isn't a trace of an ego that's more and more found on DW's. With due rspect I maintain that his site khas become cultish - he has things to to with LLO and he strongly endorses his and his follower's take on it. Would like to stress that though channeling can be a valuable source of info, it can also be false, or mislleading. the entity being channeled can be corrupt and/or become corrupt. I'd say caution is sorely needed. I am also guessing that a lot of us are being used as channels (with or without our intent) as of late in particular..I am stating this from my own experience. The messages i got were verbaly most explicit , but i keep an open mind and keep them to myself as they may be misleading.. there are so many forces at play and one must set aside one's own ego to be able to count the messages being funneled down our mind as relevant these days..and they are only relevant if they are relevant to us all..there should not be any conditions..we are in the same boat. Bill and kerry got that. not sure about DW and his take on Ra and LLO any more. angels fly becausee they take themselves lightly bestest from NW2 london, uk on a gloriuos sunny day off cycling, enjoying the day..

12-10-2009, 01:53 PM	#25
xlsander Avalon Senior Member Join Date: Aug 2009 Posts: 32	Re: Self Proclaimed Illuminati Insider on Agenda for Humanity I agree and all Q'uo session start like this: We are those known to you as the principle of Q’uo. We greet you in the love and in the light of the one infinite Creator, in whose service we come to this circle this evening. It is a privilege and a pleasure to be called to your circle of seeking. We thank you for the honor and we are glad to speak to the one known as D. However, as always, we would ask that all of those who listen to or read these words exercise discernment, choosing from those opinions which we share the thoughts that resonate and that seem helpful, leaving the rest behind without a single thought. For in this way, you shall safeguard the processes of your own evolution. And we shall feel that comfort that comes from knowing that we shall not be infringing upon your free will in any way. We thank you for this consideration.