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Old 04-10-2009, 04:40 AM   #1
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Hi Everyone

I was having a ponder and the following came to mind.

What if 2012 is just another Y2K in disguise? What if we are being royally set up for something of which we have absolutely no idea? No, I can’t put forward a "like what" because we have absolutely no idea.

You may wonder about my inclusion with the Nexus name in the title. Hmmm, I will probably draw a heap load of flak for this but on we go eh!
Nexus is a good thing, it is bringing a lot of people together with all the right intentions. HEAL THE EARTH. Totally admirable and I am not being sarcastic so please do not read that into what I am saying.

I need to ask a question. Does Gaia need healing or does humanity need it? I have felt for the last few considerable years that the insanity of humankind has gone just a tad too far. I also get the distinct impression that if humankind does not take themselves in hand with IMMEDIATE effect, then we will be taken in hand and shaken off as a dog would shake of the fleas who have evolved beyond being a mere irritation to actually being in a position where they can cause devastating and irrevocable harm. This will not be tolerated, the cosmos will wipe us out sooner than allow us to be a threat to it. Taking a look around I have the distinct feeling that we deserve whatever comes our way. If we look at our track record, we fall dismally short of having conducted ourselves in anything other than a dismal, self-serving and disgusting fashion. Insanity is pandemic, and the sooner we realise that we truly are insane, the sooner we will be able to wake ourselves from our current stupor. The sooner we awaken the sooner we may be of some small benefit.

It is my feeling that all the meditation, all the prayer and all the supplication in the world will be of no avail as it is all passive. (Oh I know, as you think so it will be, we are creating a new paradigm etc etc etc.....remember there has to be action with the thought to bring about the manifestation of the desired outcome).
We have had the age of the Guru, we have had the age of the Messiah, we have had the age of the Deliverer and all have failed dismally. It is now time to herald in the age of US DOING SOMETHING TANGIBLE, REAL, and physical.

It is time to stop bandying about the "new-age -speak", the lovely sounding catch phrases that make us sound oh so pants wetting esoterical and to take ourselves by the scruff of the neck and shake the proverbial out of our eyes. It is time we started amounting to something REAL. Inaction has had it’s day, there will be no Alien intervention, there will be no Messiah to hauls us out of the dung we have built around ourselves. We made this mess and we need to un-make it.
Back to my first question, what if 2012 is just another Y2K. Oh, you bet that everyone will pop champagne and shout "We did it!!!! YAAAAAAAY!!!!" There will be back slapping and cheers and adulation going forth far and wide. The cliques will be proud of their endeavors and all will be well in the land of Nodd.
There is a problem however, we will still have millions starving, Africa will still be the Dark Continent, the economy will still be in ruins and we will still be bashing away at our keyboards exhorting one another on "Job Well Done".

Yes, I agree there is an awakening, yes I agree that we are moving into new territory (for us) but it is just a repeat of a 25000 year cycle. If it was successful last time around, why are we where we are at right now, right this minute, in turmoil and despair? Oh you may argue about the despair part but hellooooooooo....look around you. Do the nations look happy?
I will leave off here, and put my fire suit on.

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Old 04-10-2009, 01:17 PM   #2
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I won't add to this, but this notion is creeping up around me like bushfire... I mean that I see more and more people expressing those thoughts.
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Old 04-10-2009, 04:00 PM   #3
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What makes this significantly different than Y2k is that Y2k was all speculation and fear with no evidence to back it up. The science is not lying to us about the energetics of the solar system ramping up due to the proximity to the galactic equator. Something is going to happen. Is it going to be the kick ass stuff that we all want it to be with the shift to another level of reality? Or is it going to be a giant solar flare and the earth flipping on its axis and drowning almost everyone?

Either way we all have the same ticket out of here. If we all ascend that will be fine with me. If we all die, that will be fine with me also. You consciousness will continue on either way. What is important is not if we are right or wrong about all of this stuff. What is important is that we all get to a point two where we are not concerned with what may or may not happen. Knowing is good, anticipating is bad. Knowing makes you wise. Anticipating makes you nervous. Anticipation can block all of your instincts that should tell you what to do next.

Don't under estimate the effects that the increased frequency of consciousness on the planet is having on the population. The same shifts in the paradigms of society that took 400 years before are not taking 360 days. Soon they will take 20 days. People that want to hold onto the past will be in their own personal **** storms. People that take it as it comes will be riding it out and enjoying every minute of it reguardless of the outcome.

It is not the destination, it is the journey. Easy to forget this simple philosophy. When it gets complicated all ways go back to the basics.
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Old 04-10-2009, 10:02 PM   #4
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greetings zeddo,

Sai Maa on the conscious media network.

we must begin to observe this reality thru the lens of ENERGY. this requires one to start at home, within ourselves. what we find at home, is reflected in our obseervation of our reality. what do we see?

you are obseerving nations as being unhappy, and this is a wonder.full example to use as a touchstone. that is a macro glance and an internal micro world. a nation is a GROUP CONSCIOUSNESS. if there is chaos, then it can be viewed as unhappy OR that things are about to shift to another level of understanding. each individual is very important in the transition process.

in my understanding at this time, the planetary consciousness is in transition. this is evident by obseerving the actions that are before us. if you watch the news or TV, what you will put before the mysterious one that lives within you, is what the manipulators have conjured up to trick the subconscious mind.

if you look at your own life, and that of your immediate surroundings, you will obseerve something different. people are waking up and coming to the understanding that they have personal power, and they want it back. this is going to be a micro and macro process, just like everything else.

when we dream of creating a new way of interacting with the macro picture, we cannot fill the holes in the puzzle with the 'old brain' ways. we must reach further than that. and when we come in contact with something that resonates within us, we will support it with our energy and time.

this is the 'practice' we need, to gain the wisdom of the dream we are dreaming in, of ONENESS. once we understand from our experience when connecting to a larger collective energy, then we can begin to tap into that in a different way, and literally create with that energy.

there is no new age talk, it is more an understanding that words have frequency, and when we use those words, we perpetuate that frequency throughout our lives. it requires each in.div.i.dual to become a mad scientist and experiment with their own consciousness. experiment.

you are not alone with the perception you shared here. but i would like to suggest to expand your 'big picture'. if you become entangled with what something looks like rather than asking if this is who you REALLY are inside, you will be drawn magnetically to experience more of that until you 'GET IT'. this is a truism for the manipulated reality AND the new understanding that we have now.

it is a very different perception to look OUT THERE and observe, rather that healing your own perceptions of what you observe. this is how we change the world. it is all for ONE, and ONE for all.

keep shining the light within, and expand it from your center as far as you can. i will do the same, and we can meet each other in that light.

peace for your travels,
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Old 04-10-2009, 10:17 PM   #5
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What makes this significantly different than Y2k is that Y2k was all speculation and fear with no evidence to back it up.
So you do see the similarity then! All speculation and fear, with no evidence other than that fabricated. I do agree that we are within the galactic equator, one would have to be a fool to disagree. It is what is happening on the fringes that alarms me.

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The science is not lying to us about the energetics of the solar system ramping up due to the proximity to the galactic equator. Something is going to happen. Is it going to be the kick ass stuff that we all want it to be with the shift to another level of reality? Or is it going to be a giant solar flare and the earth flipping on its axis and drowning almost everyone?
This we just have to wait and see. The physical outcome is not what was in question here, the whole question posed was one of spirituality, not physics.

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Either way we all have the same ticket out of here. If we all ascend that will be fine with me. If we all die, that will be fine with me also. You consciousness will continue on either way. What is important is not if we are right or wrong about all of this stuff. What is important is that we all get to a point two where we are not concerned with what may or may not happen.
No argument at all on this point. To add to this, what is important is that you show by action that you are an enlightened being. How do you do this? By behaving beyond reproach. You do this by letting your light shine, not by hiding in your room chanting mantras at some godforsaken hour. We have to be real. That's what I meant about the new age stuff.

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Knowing is good, anticipating is bad. Knowing makes you wise. Anticipating makes you nervous. Anticipation can block all of your instincts that should tell you what to do next.
Question. What do we know? Only what we have been told. Only what others would have us know. There is one certainty, and that is we actually know nothing, but hope for everything.

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Don't under estimate the effects that the increased frequency of consciousness on the planet is having on the population. The same shifts in the paradigms of society that took 400 years before are not taking 360 days. Soon they will take 20 days. People that want to hold onto the past will be in their own personal **** storms. People that take it as it comes will be riding it out and enjoying every minute of it reguardless of the outcome.
Increased consciousness is all that we can hope for. I know it is my deepest yearning that everyone wakes up and realises that we are all related, we are all oneand that we hurt together, love together and thenperhaps the insanity can stop. This is foremost in my essence, I want for nothing othar than that.

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Old 04-10-2009, 10:27 PM   #6
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greetings zeddo,

Sai Maa on the conscious media network.



you are not alone with the perception you shared here. but i would like to suggest to expand your 'big picture'. if you become entangled with what something looks like rather than asking if this is who you REALLY are inside, you will be drawn magnetically to experience more of that until you 'GET IT'. this is a truism for the manipulated reality AND the new understanding that we have now.

it is a very different perception to look OUT THERE and observe, rather that healing your own perceptions of what you observe. this is how we change the world. it is all for ONE, and ONE for all.


peace for your travels,
UM
Here is an example of what I am talking about.

There is no "new age speak". Tell me, if you said these things to the average man in the street would he or she understand? If you said this to a 10 year old, would they comprehend these words? Would they have the faintest idea of what you were saying?

I am getting at the point of keeping things based in a reality whereby others will be able to connect to what is happening. That's it.


I find it weird how when someone tries to say something, because they may lack oratory skills they are told, basically, that their vision is impaired. I see this a a lack of discernment as to what is actually being said and a predisposition to only seeing things one way whilst trying to maintain a semblance of being esoterically "right on".

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Old 04-10-2009, 10:33 PM   #7
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Here is an example of what I am talking about.

There is no "new age speak". Tell me, if you said these things to the average man in the street would he or she understand? If you said this to a 10 year old, would they comprehend these words? Would they have the faintest idea of what you were saying?

I am getting at the point of keeping things based in a reality whereby others will be able to connect to what is happening. That's it.


I find it weird how when someone tries to say something, because they may lack oratory skills they are told, basically, that their vision is impaired. I see this a a lack of discernment as to what is actually being said and a predisposition to only seeing things one way whilst trying to maintain a semblance of being esoterically "right on".

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Amen to that!

The only word I would exchange is the word 'reality'. I don't know for what though... -_- Maybe 'base paradigm' would do. But really it's about the old deal of 'the simpler the truer'. If perception is impaired then it is in regard to not being able to see the simplicity of it all (and no, simplicity is not "I just believe that all is fine and all will be fine.")

Seems I couldn't resist again?
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Old 04-10-2009, 11:55 PM   #8
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Here is an example of what I am talking about.

There is no "new age speak". Tell me, if you said these things to the average man in the street would he or she understand? If you said this to a 10 year old, would they comprehend these words? Would they have the faintest idea of what you were saying?

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I am getting at the point of keeping things based in a reality whereby others will be able to connect to what is happening. That's it.

I find it weird how when someone tries to say something, because they may lack oratory skills they are told, basically, that their vision is impaired. I see this a a lack of discernment as to what is actually being said and a predisposition to only seeing things one way whilst trying to maintain a semblance of being esoterically "right on".

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It is time to stop bandying about the "new-age -speak", the lovely sounding catch phrases that make us sound oh so pants wetting esoterical and to take ourselves by the scruff of the neck and shake the proverbial out of our eyes
proverb: (as defined by a 33 degree mason) a pithy popular saying.
pithy: direct and to the point
proverbial: relating to or resembling a proverb, commonly spoken of

greetings zeddo

the energy that you are projecting, is not open minded nor compassionate. i was under the impression that you were asking a question or a new way to observe the chaos, and this is why i responded. this is my confusion, so i apologize.

and just to be clear, there is no judgment on oratory skills, it isn't even about that. and this is why we are not understanding one another. you have said it yourself
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I see this a a lack of discernment as to what is actually being said and a predisposition to only seeing things one way whilst trying to maintain a semblance of being esoterically "right on".
this is very clearly YOUR perception.

to answer your question about walking up to someone on the street and explaining this to them. i wouldn't even think of doing that at this point of my awareness. this only causes people to go into fear mode, because what someone is saying is UNKNOWN to them.

on the other hand, if someone on the street overheard me speaking about frequency and vibration, and stopped to listen, then i would be open to where the conversation lead. and, if i had an experience that gave me a greater understanding and could share or compare it to their own, i would do so. i think there may be a proverb about this kind of activity. 'don't cast pearls of wisdom before swine' and the examples that i have used here seem to resonate with that.
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Old 04-10-2009, 11:57 PM   #9
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Amen to that!

The only word I would exchange is the word 'reality'. I don't know for what though... -_- Maybe 'base paradigm' would do. But really it's about the old deal of 'the simpler the truer'. If perception is impaired then it is in regard to not being able to see the simplicity of it all (and no, simplicity is not "I just believe that all is fine and all will be fine.")

Seems I couldn't resist again?
Good point Czymra

I agree about changing the word "reality" and also had problems with an alternative but "base paradigm" sounds about right.
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Old 04-11-2009, 12:07 AM   #10
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Hi Unlimited Mind

but we are, for the most part, just people in the street!

Oh, I don't take offence being told I am not compassionate, god forbid that I actually try and be "liked", that I actually shed tears when I see people less fortunate than myself and have people give me weird looks because of my less than macho behaviour !!!

That is your view and you are entitled to it, I would not try and take that away from you! Fortunately, those who really know and me think otherwise, as they know where I come from and what motivates me. Let me just say that I like to prod and poke, it helps to keep "the enlightened" on their toes.

I have been through this before with religion, and walked away from it. This whole issue, unless questioned, poked and prodded stands the threat of also becoming just another religion. It is a good thing that people speak their minds and not fear being branded and labelled. We should expect no less and encourage it all the more.




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Old 04-11-2009, 12:12 AM   #11
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Excellent thread, Z.

I've long since lost track of the "new age speak" that i can't understand the first thing about...frankly i doubt anyone else can either.

As soon as someone talks in a way which i can't understand, its "thank you, bye bye". Lets keep it simple, and real.

There is very little that ANYONE really knows, and if we don't know lets just stick to the basics, which is simple:

There is one law that i used to follow in the real world that most people earn a living (ie commerce and industry) : Don't do anything to others which you wouldn't want to see done to you. I lectured on "ego" many times.

Follow that simple rule and the world would be a better place, by far.

As you say, while i have no objection to anyone doing global meditation etc, the REAL WORLD is what we do WITH OTHER PEOPLE.

The world of "Astralwalker" etc is a minority world that is almost irrelevant. It may help the individuals participating, but it has very little to do with the real world.

The work that will change the world is trying to get the vast mass of people across the globe to change the way they treat each other. That has a LONG WAY to go. But we must continue to try to help those who are prepared to listen.

As I have said many times before...be wary of anyone who appears "superior" and says they are "spiritual"...or any complex "spiritual speak". That will never help the world. Keep it simple. We need to keep trying to get through to the 99% of the world who know nothing.

You're thinking on the right lines.

Best, Piers
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Excellent thread, Z.

I've long since lost track of the "new age speak" that i can't understand the first thing about...frankly i doubt anyone else can either.

As soon as someone talks in a way which i can't understand, its "thank you, bye bye". Lets keep it simple, and real.

There is very little that ANYONE really knows, and if we don't know lets just stick to the basics, which is simple:

There is one law that i used to follow in the real world that most people earn a living (ie commerce and industry) : Don't do anything to others which you wouldn't want to see done to you. I lectured on "ego" many times.

Follow that simple rule and the world would be a better place, by far.

As you say, while i have no objection to anyone doing global meditation etc, the REAL WORLD is what we do WITH OTHER PEOPLE.

The world of "Astralwalker" etc is a minority world that is almost irrelevant. It may help the individuals participating, but it has very little to do with the real world.

The work that will change the world is trying to get the vast mass of people across the globe to change the way they treat each other. That has a LONG WAY to go. But we must continue to try to help those who are prepared to listen.

As I have said many times before...be wary of anyone who appears "superior" and says they are "spiritual"...or any complex "spiritual speak". That will never help the world. Keep it simple. We need to keep trying to get through to the 99% of the world who know nothing.

You're thinking on the right lines.

Best, Piers
Hi Piers

Thanks for that brilliant reply.

All the best

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Old 04-11-2009, 10:13 AM   #13
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I started a new thread called Obamanization.

In the link provided you will find the following :

Emotional Manipulation

According to Cialdini, the majority of the thousands of different
tactics that compliance professionals use fall into six categories,
and each category is based on a psychological principle that directs
human behavior. These six principles are:

1. Consistency. We try to justify our earlier behavior.
2. Reciprocity. If somebody gives us something, we try
to repay in kind.
3. Social Proof. We try to find out what other people
think is correct.
4. Authority. We have a deep-seated sense of duty to
authority figures.
5. Liking. We obey people we like.
6. Scarcity. If we come to want something, we can be
made to fear that if we wait it will be gone. The opportunity
to get it may pass. We want to take it now - whatever is being
offered, from an object to cosmic consciousness.

We can see how transformations occur when the six principles are
skillfully put into play by cult leaders and cultic groups. For
example:

1. Consistency. If you have made a commitment to the group
and then break it, you can be made to feel guilty.
2. Reciprocity. If you accept the group’s food and attention,
you feel you should repay them.
3. Social proof. If you look around in the group, you
will see people behaving in particular ways. You imitate what
you see and assume that such behavior is proper, good, and expected.
4. Authority. If you tend to respect authority, and your
cult leader claims superior knowledge, power, and special missions
in life, you accept him as an authority.
5. Liking. If you are the object of love bombing and
other tactics that surround you, make you feel wanted and loved,
and make you like the people in the group, you feel you ought
to obey these people.
6. Scarcity. If you are told that without the group you
will miss out on living a life without stress; miss out on attaining
cosmic awareness and bliss; miss out on changing the world instantly
or gaining the ability to travel back in time; or miss out on
whatever the group offers that is tailored to seem essential to
you, you will feel you must buy in now.

Isn't it strange how a lot of these patterns are adopted to manipulate the herd?

Enough said. Just call it my compassionate side coming out again.

Z

Here is the link again

http://www.conspiracyarchive.com/Blog/?p=2095
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Aren't these the very same criteria that make a beneficial group retain its integrity, as well?
...or are you simply against any kind of grouping?
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y2k and 2012.. my friends and family & people I dont know say this. I believe there so different. i cant even begin to see the similarities. I believe we are heading for earth changes and there is no dough were in the middle of it. man cant help to rationalize it. and humanize it. and get involved. we should be good stewarts of earth. the new age people seem to have more feeling when it comes to this sort of thing. so its only natural that these voices are coming to the top. after all there the ones that are looking to the sun the moon and the stars for answers. just like the ancients. or at least trying to understand what they knew. I really don't think we can truly understand what is happing all around us. we only see what's right next to us. and this is bigger than the individual perception. I enjoy the energy from the new age people trying to raise the awareness. its sure healthier than watching CNN. the evidence is overwhelming if one is brave enough to look in the support of pole shift. the sun does it every 11 years or so. and so does earth. massive planetary alightment. galactic center. earth quakes, volcano's, supper storms, sun storms, global warming, water disappearing, rising see levels, ocean over fished and polluted and is dying. huge dead spots in the ocean due to many factors. including ph changes. all indicator species dropping like flies. the earths protective shields are failing. and the list go's on and on and on and on. I don't see these things with y2k. no ice core samples. frozen mastodons with buttercups in the mouths in alaska. I don't know about all of you. but I see it everywhere I go. I feel it. were in the middle of change. I hope for the best. and welcome anybody who is trying to raise the vibration and awareness of the planet. it cant hurt. and sure is better than what's being practiced by the masses. Im excited to see the changes. I have a hard time just getting motivated in the raping of the planet and kicking and scratching just to make a living. I'm sick of going to the supper market and it seems as though aIm the only one there. everybody is living in a state of fear. so mush so you cant look somebody in the eye and say hello in most cases. because there fearful of what can happen. I welcome the new energy coming to the earth. sure hope it brings the balance back.



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Nobody here is denying a change that is occurring but how it is seen and used toward a fixated date... so you all wait nicely instead of finding solutions NOW.
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Nobody here is denying a change that is occurring but how it is seen and used toward a fixated date... so you all wait nicely instead of finding solutions NOW.
solutions to what?

seems our cosmos is well ahead of us.

it all comes down to personal choices. and this is happing now.

natures rules need no correction in my perception.
I believe nature is speaking.

we don't stop lakes or oceans from turning during the passing of the seasons. yet!!!

I think if one wants to prepare for solar storms or flooding and starvation. them by all means. but I don't have a seeing stone to tell me what going to hit and where. i'm as frustrated as most of you as well. what are we going to do. what can you do. it will take a massive black out to wake the people up. I say bring on solar winds to knock out power world wide for months or years. this would also break the brainwashing that's being broadcasted planet wide with TV and such. I hope we do see stone age hit man again. then we can build it right....

or take the power back...
it all gos back to politics.
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Well, I suppose solutions might be the wrong word. I myself simply hope for people to join together on some basic level that we all share, rather than going off on their New Age, Science, Truth or Art trip.... at least for a while we're all pretty much stuck in human bodies and there are some basic concepts that seem to get buried under all the philosophies and theories.
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Old 04-11-2009, 08:19 PM   #19
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I welcome you to california any time. I to would like to see things like the ground crew start taking form as well. and I do see a start in this kind of thinking. even obamas wife was gardening with children, at the white house last week. a sign of things to come. I see legit science on this subject as well as philosophies and theories. solar winds baby!! cosmic rays!! bring it on!!! wake the masses... and mean time I will join your cause as well..better than laying down..

Im board today. I dont mean to hijack.

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Old 04-11-2009, 08:22 PM   #20
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I welcome you to california any time. I to would like to see things like the ground crew start taking form as well. and I do see a start in this kind of thinking. even obamas wife was gardening with children, at the white house last week. a sign of things to come. I see legit science on this subject as well as philosophies and theories. solar winds baby!! cosmic rays!! bring it on!!! wake the masses... and mean time I will join your cause as well..better than laying down..

Im board today. I dont mean to hijack.

Wait a second, you don't have a ground crew either? I thought I'm the only one. :/
See what I'm getting at?
Anyway, back to Zeddo.
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Old 04-11-2009, 08:43 PM   #21
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Wait a second, you don't have a ground crew either? I thought I'm the only one. :/
See what I'm getting at?
Anyway, back to Zeddo.
No, you are not the only one. I do not even dare to raise such a topic when I am with family or friends. They have no slightest idea and i doubt they want to know. they feel comfortably in their boxes.
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Old 04-11-2009, 09:24 PM   #22
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Stick to those that are ready to hear. But keep the message simple, like Czymra is saying, no "complex new age speak".....that loses your potential audience faster than a smelly fart.

If you're wondering (just on a personal basis, and not for further dissemination) where you might go, and where others on planet earth might go at the allocated time, try this:

http://time-to-choose.blogspot.com/2...nsions_31.html

which category are you in?

make you feel any better? No? Have a glass of wine then.
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Old 04-11-2009, 09:40 PM   #23
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When we step through this portal, doubt has to be left at the gate. This is happening now !!!!!
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Old 04-11-2009, 09:40 PM   #24
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I don't know which category, but I know what I'd like. I've read that our souls chose it all before we started this life. Glass of wine: I wrote a poem several years ago entitled BLANC de BLANCS Champagne Bubble Rises to the surface, Crystal flute, Spipped by God, I am it, Gone to His head, In fun. The others also rise- continually, Pleasing the Source with their vintages. Suzuki Roshi said we were each like a drop in a water fall. Same sort of think, I guess. Aloha, bushycat
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Old 04-12-2009, 02:39 AM   #25
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Wow, all these replies, thanks everyone, that's brilliant.

It looks like I'll need to answer one at a time here, not sure how you do multiple quotes unless you use word and past back here(which is pretty cool because I can do a spell check!!!)

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y2k and 2012.. my friends and family & people I dont know say this. I believe there ..................................................



http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8mZ9m0gFow8

I agree with everything you say, it is the perspective I was coming from which is different, hence the Y2K thing. It is the fear mongering, the hype etc which doesn't sit well with me. It's the few, not the majority, who try and herd the unwitting along their thought patterns thus becoming the "new-age" gurus. Believe me, I have no gripe with "new-age" people per say. It is those that tag along using this label to add credibility to their voice. Hence my questioning, will a 10 year old understand what it is that is being said. Why I tackled this particular topic was to pod, goad and yes, even incite us to be rational in totally irrational times. Look at it this way, when you see a guy standing in the street espousing end times according to the book of revelations and he "talks his gospel language" what do you honestly think, ah yes, another nutter. It is merely my concern that with all the catch phrases etc we too sound like another group of nutters instead of having a cogent message which everyone needs to be aware of at this time.

I realise at times what I say may seem rather direct and uncompassionate, but if you read what I have to say within the context of the whole, I am sure it will make sense.

There is no denying the earth changes, these are for real. These are fact and they are not only imminent but are currently in progress. Heavens knows, I am changing also, I must be, even my wife sees changes in me which I don't see or even feel. I am sure this is the same for all who are in the transition phase from being comatose to some semblance of wakefulness.

Arghhhhhh, I digress, it is hard to stay on track sometimes when the head is spilling over with thoughts and pictures.....


I was speaking about Y2K/2012. On the face of it, no correlation whatsoever, but at the root of what is happening I see a strong movement of something trying to steer us off track which is where I (think) I was trying to draw a comparison. I could be totally wrong and hopefully I am, I am open tp guidance and correction.

Heavens! I hope this all makes sense.

Once again, thanks for all the brilliant posts, it shows there is a lot of thinking going on and this thinking has it's parallel in awareness and the bringing in of the new paradigm.

There was mention of belonging to groups. Briefly, no I am not against groups as long as the groups are collective and are not hi-jacked and steered into self-serving agendas which take us away from where it is we are trying to steer this whole thing, essentially, the vision of the new paradigm.

Some of the things I would like to see as part of the "new age" paradigm.

Telepathy - Imagine full telepathic powers, what a wonder that would be. No hidden schemes, no lies......

Moneyless society - where there is no money there will be no deceit, no clandestine operations, no lying, no theft etc etc etc.

Unity (brother/sisterhood?) This is where we all share in what is required of us to make it possible for everybody, no exclusions, to live in peace and harmony not only with each other but with the whole of creation, let's call it a oneness of vibration (oops, sounds very new-agey doesn't it!!!) We would all do our part of the required work, holding Gaia and her gifts sacred, and going from wastefulness to actually meeting the needs of clothing, shelter, food and interaction for all of society. (Animals, plants and insects included).


I look forward to seeing more ideas from my brothers and sisters out there.

Love and Light (and awakening) to all of us

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