Is this true? Military Police to aid CHP?

Sol Invictus · 12-15-2008, 06:59 PM

http://bbvm.wordpress.com/2008/12/14...ardino-county/

Quote:

The Marine Corps Air and Ground Combat Center (MCAGCC) Provost Marshal (head of a unit of military police) and the local California Highway Patrol office will begin working together 12/12 — and through the holiday season — in a joint effort to reduce accidents and drinking and driving. The combined mutual cooperation between the Marine Corps Military Police and State enforcement officers will begin somewhere along Highway 62. The CHP will set up DUI roadblocks with the presence of Military Police. A violation of the Posse Comitatus Act.

I am not an American, but I am a world aware citizen, and I have to say this is very frightening if true and unchallenged.

Military LEO working with civilian LE on a public highway? If this is bona fida, then there is a massive concern here about 'mission creep'.

Dantheman62 · 12-15-2008, 08:02 PM

Definitely Sol, sounds like practice to me! I'll ask my brother who lives out near LA, California to keep an eye out to see if it happens!

Sol Invictus · 12-15-2008, 08:11 PM

Yeah cheers Dan. Seems very close to breaking alot of laws and statutes of not using the military as LEO.

If it was a military road, well ok; if it was a national emergency, again, OK; but it isn't.

Didn't see CHP and MEU MPs doing road blocks at any other times did we?

Dantheman62 · 12-15-2008, 08:22 PM

You know another point to make here is that the state of California is broke and very far in debt actually. Governor Schwarzenegger was just asking for a few billion I think just the other day!

Sol Invictus · 12-15-2008, 08:26 PM

1.5 MILLION dollars AN HOUR!!!!!!!!!!!!

http://www.timesonline.co.uk/tol/new...cle5327474.ece

Yeah I know, I got too many links in too weird a set of subjects lol. I am after all conspiracy minded

and this is a hummer if you know what your looking for.

Dantheman62 · 12-15-2008, 08:32 PM

Yes sir that is the similar article I was talking about!, Time for "The Terminator" to start terminating some budgets!

Sol Invictus · 12-15-2008, 08:35 PM

Arnie oversaw a 40%... yes FOURTY PERCENT rise in state 'costs'.

He lied, just like they all do. He needs a swift kick in the farmers for being such a douche.

Czymra · 12-15-2008, 09:02 PM

Any suggestions as to what to do when this goes down in your country? I just don't know anymore how 'voicing your concern' can make any difference when you voice it to the people who are either giving or executing the order.

Wormhole · 12-15-2008, 09:03 PM

Just had to throw a little understanding out there from experience. The fires have been reeking havoc; I know, I lost my own house to a ridge fire there not too long ago. They've been asking for the extra help for a long time, years in fact, and didn't have all the men they needed to fight the fires due to our "Peace" of $@it mission in the middle east. The National Guard has been away fighting wars to support lucrative defense contracts. The fires now burn all year long, not just during the dry season.

The same thing happened in New Orleans, I was there. Our city was under occupation in order for the military to "secure their Naval Base". I lost my first home there with Katrina, it wasn't a good year.

We all know where the Nat Guard was then...

However, help or no help needed... This is just the type of situation that the FEDs take advantage of. They are using the same tactics in our home land that they employ overseas. Next there will be permanent military run road blocks to insure our own security. I'm glad I now live in Canada, but it is just a matter of time. These guys will try anything and stop at nothing.

I'm usually not a downer on my posts, this just cut close to home. I think I'll go now and have a great day. To the FEDs I say

.

Peace of Mind,
Wormhole

Dantheman62 · 12-15-2008, 09:24 PM

Yeah Wormhole the fires are so bad there. I was in south Florida for Hurricane Andrew and that was before the Iraq BS, there was national guard on every corner, then years later I was in West Palm Beach for Hurricane Wilma, I think it was, and no national guard to be found, of course due to the Iraq BS.

Sol Invictus · 12-15-2008, 09:32 PM

The Iraq war; man I could type all night but I doubt people will ever believe half of it.

The other half would make them weep.

I spent 100 hours just tagging links and working through defence contract bills... its like a money drain in order to cause the bankruptcy of the United States.

Czymra · 12-15-2008, 09:38 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Sol Invictus

The Iraq war; man I could type all night but I doubt people will ever believe half of it.

The other half would make them weep.

I spent 100 hours just tagging links and working through defence contract bills... its like a money drain in order to cause the bankruptcy of the United States.

I'm interested, though. Is it worth it?

12-15-2008, 09:40 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Sol Invictus

http://bbvm.wordpress.com/2008/12/14...ardino-county/

I am not an American, but I am a world aware citizen, and I have to say this is very frightening if true and unchallenged.

Military LEO working with civilian LE on a public highway? If this is bona fida, then there is a massive concern here about 'mission creep'.

So much for posse comitatus ehh?

So much for the rule of law.

The name of the game is color of law in a lawless nation

12-15-2008, 08:02 PM	#2
Dantheman62 Avalon Senior Member Join Date: Sep 2008 Location: So. Cal. U.S. Posts: 4,205	Re: Is this true? Military Police to aid CHP? Definitely Sol, sounds like practice to me! I'll ask my brother who lives out near LA, California to keep an eye out to see if it happens!

12-15-2008, 08:11 PM	#3
Sol Invictus Banned Join Date: Sep 2008 Posts: 599	Re: Is this true? Military Police to aid CHP? Yeah cheers Dan. Seems very close to breaking alot of laws and statutes of not using the military as LEO. If it was a military road, well ok; if it was a national emergency, again, OK; but it isn't. Didn't see CHP and MEU MPs doing road blocks at any other times did we?

12-15-2008, 08:22 PM	#4
Dantheman62 Avalon Senior Member Join Date: Sep 2008 Location: So. Cal. U.S. Posts: 4,205	Re: Is this true? Military Police to aid CHP? You know another point to make here is that the state of California is broke and very far in debt actually. Governor Schwarzenegger was just asking for a few billion I think just the other day!

12-15-2008, 08:26 PM	#5
Sol Invictus Banned Join Date: Sep 2008 Posts: 599	Re: Is this true? Military Police to aid CHP? 1.5 MILLION dollars AN HOUR!!!!!!!!!!!! http://www.timesonline.co.uk/tol/new...cle5327474.ece Yeah I know, I got too many links in too weird a set of subjects lol. I am after all conspiracy minded and this is a hummer if you know what your looking for.

12-15-2008, 08:32 PM	#6
Dantheman62 Avalon Senior Member Join Date: Sep 2008 Location: So. Cal. U.S. Posts: 4,205	Re: Is this true? Military Police to aid CHP? Yes sir that is the similar article I was talking about!, Time for "The Terminator" to start terminating some budgets!

12-15-2008, 08:35 PM	#7
Sol Invictus Banned Join Date: Sep 2008 Posts: 599	Re: Is this true? Military Police to aid CHP? Arnie oversaw a 40%... yes FOURTY PERCENT rise in state 'costs'. He lied, just like they all do. He needs a swift kick in the farmers for being such a douche.

12-15-2008, 09:02 PM	#8
Czymra Avalon Senior Member Join Date: Nov 2008 Location: Germany Posts: 1,151	Re: Is this true? Military Police to aid CHP? Any suggestions as to what to do when this goes down in your country? I just don't know anymore how 'voicing your concern' can make any difference when you voice it to the people who are either giving or executing the order.

12-15-2008, 09:03 PM	#9
Wormhole Avalon Senior Member Join Date: Sep 2008 Location: Pacific Northwest Posts: 506	Re: Is this true? Military Police to aid CHP? Just had to throw a little understanding out there from experience. The fires have been reeking havoc; I know, I lost my own house to a ridge fire there not too long ago. They've been asking for the extra help for a long time, years in fact, and didn't have all the men they needed to fight the fires due to our "Peace" of $@it mission in the middle east. The National Guard has been away fighting wars to support lucrative defense contracts. The fires now burn all year long, not just during the dry season. The same thing happened in New Orleans, I was there. Our city was under occupation in order for the military to "secure their Naval Base". I lost my first home there with Katrina, it wasn't a good year. We all know where the Nat Guard was then... However, help or no help needed... This is just the type of situation that the FEDs take advantage of. They are using the same tactics in our home land that they employ overseas. Next there will be permanent military run road blocks to insure our own security. I'm glad I now live in Canada, but it is just a matter of time. These guys will try anything and stop at nothing. I'm usually not a downer on my posts, this just cut close to home. I think I'll go now and have a great day. To the FEDs I say . Peace of Mind, Wormhole

12-15-2008, 09:24 PM	#10
Dantheman62 Avalon Senior Member Join Date: Sep 2008 Location: So. Cal. U.S. Posts: 4,205	Re: Is this true? Military Police to aid CHP? Yeah Wormhole the fires are so bad there. I was in south Florida for Hurricane Andrew and that was before the Iraq BS, there was national guard on every corner, then years later I was in West Palm Beach for Hurricane Wilma, I think it was, and no national guard to be found, of course due to the Iraq BS.

12-15-2008, 09:32 PM	#11
Sol Invictus Banned Join Date: Sep 2008 Posts: 599	Re: Is this true? Military Police to aid CHP? The Iraq war; man I could type all night but I doubt people will ever believe half of it. The other half would make them weep. I spent 100 hours just tagging links and working through defence contract bills... its like a money drain in order to cause the bankruptcy of the United States.