Glenn Beck with sound words...but he's on Fox?!

recallone · 03-18-2009, 08:00 AM

I've been trying to wrap my head around this particular chess piece for a few days now. I've been watching videos of Glenn Beck's show lately, and he's raising awareness about many of the things discussed in forums such as these.
But he's on Fox!! WTF?!

Here's a few links so you can see where he's coming from. There are plenty of others out there, too.

The Government Are Destroyers of Wealth - Glenn Beck - March 3rd, 2009

Glenn Beck Mentions FEMA Camps on Fox & Friends

Ron Paul and Glenn Beck talk about Fema Camps on his TV Show - March 3rd, 2009

Prior to the above clips, he had a show discussing Worst Case Scenarios with a couple of guests. His disclaimer is clear, although they pretty much go on to describe what many would consider to be the inevitable.

War Games - SHTF Scenario (3 videos) added Jan 20, 2009

I can't help but wonder what the real agenda is behind putting this man on the air. There's one video where they've got a mosaic of pictures making up the American flag behind him...the pictures are of viewers that sent their pictures in...by request.

I'm staying detached from all of it, but this one has got me really curious.
Any thoughts?

Machinamentum · 03-18-2009, 08:13 AM

I wonder when his "report" is going to be "good-enough" to be released? Was that some humanity being shown there at first? Was some logic creeping up their cold soulless necks before the boss made the call?

mu2143 · 03-18-2009, 09:35 AM

What is happening is if the people become more aware of what is goining on they wil try to use that information and slowly mix it with lies. Same thing happened how they created the religions (Bible/koran etc) with versions over time.

It's a trap for people who are just becoming aware of what is going on, but do not have the full blown picture of it. They can easily be mislead, because there not aware how to think for there selfs to filter the disinformation.

Also to try to lead the people to follow the mainstream media to trust them again. Because they want you to follow them and not your self.

Followers can be controlled and as soon you are questioning all information your receiving (5 senses) and deside for your self then they lose there power over you.

In other words follow your self!!!!!

Steve_A · 03-18-2009, 10:48 AM

Hi recallone,

The answer to your doubts is quite simple. Fox News Channel is pro Republican. Does this still not make sense?

Okay, how about this. Even though he admits he is Conservative, Glenn Beck attacks the way that government works, both Republican or Democrat.

'Government' is a generic term, for the people who manage public spending and law making, independant as to who is in power.

But the thing is it's the Democrats in power at the moment, so for the viewer, the government means Barak Obama.

So Fema camps, doom and gloom, Mexico etc. etc. etc. which have been all going on, no matter who was in power, will seem to have all been iniciated by the current administration.

There can be no more powerful weapon against the Democratic party than someone on mainstream television screaming murder, forming the opinion of the viewer making tham think that only the current 'Government' is guilty.

I'm sure that if McCain had won the presidential elections, Glenn Beck would still be just on the radio.

You will perceive that Ron Paul, Peter Schiff and others will get more media space also.

Best regards,

Steve

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Originally Posted by recallone

I've been trying to wrap my head around this particular chess piece for a few days now. I've been watching videos of Glenn Beck's show lately, and he's raising awareness about many of the things discussed in forums such as these.
But he's on Fox!! WTF?!

Here's a few links so you can see where he's coming from. There are plenty of others out there, too.

The Government Are Destroyers of Wealth - Glenn Beck - March 3rd, 2009

Glenn Beck Mentions FEMA Camps on Fox & Friends

Ron Paul and Glenn Beck talk about Fema Camps on his TV Show - March 3rd, 2009

Prior to the above clips, he had a show discussing Worst Case Scenarios with a couple of guests. His disclaimer is clear, although they pretty much go on to describe what many would consider to be the inevitable.

War Games - SHTF Scenario (3 videos) added Jan 20, 2009

I can't help but wonder what the real agenda is behind putting this man on the air. There's one video where they've got a mosaic of pictures making up the American flag behind him...the pictures are of viewers that sent their pictures in...by request.

I'm staying detached from all of it, but this one has got me really curious.
Any thoughts?

pyrangello · 03-18-2009, 03:10 PM

I have a different take on Beck and Fox, lets say many people only retain 10% of what you have read in a newspaper article or a book. Beck is pushing the limits and yes is getting peoples attention. I think his passion for the United States of America is just that , free and independent . He's a family man with kids as well who knows exactly where we are headed and what mess we are leaving with future generations on an accelerated pace.

Maybe this is what it's going to take for people to wake up when some their only source of imformation is TV. If you asked me of my opinion of Beck he's extremely aggrevated at the entire political system in D.C. as most of us are, republicans and democrats -does it really matter anymore, I'd say right and wrong are the main issues anymore, Justice and Injustice, and god, faith and country , and most of all character in decisions that are made, not how much money is for my campaign.

As for Fox, I know there are a few on this board that don't like FOX at all. I happen to be the opposite. O'Reiley will ask a guest 3 times in a row the same question and you whatch the person trying to answer squirm and slither around never answering the question. That answer, the notta answer tells you what kind of person we are dealing with. Cauvuto is pretty good on business too. One of the most impactful issues and positive ones that I have witnessed is the charge from FOX against sancturary cities( where illegal citizens get pulled over for a violation or arrested and are not reported as illegal) . Or the crusade on megans law where if an adult is caught sexually abusing a child under 11 years old, it's a mandatory sentence in prison. And then exposing the judges who let some of these guys walk after doing only 6 months. For these causes I give the FOX network cudo's keeping the banging of the drum on the right issues.

And if you don't like FOX hey there is always free will to turn the channel but for those of you who don't agree with FOX's direction I really have to wonder why your watching FOX enough to critique there programming , HMMM something to think about! In closing I don't agree with everything on any channel or what I read. Most on this board whatever the fence your on give great views and that has made me think outside of the box topics, for that I am appreciative even though we may agree to disagree!

I say bring it on Beck to promote dialog and constructive change, plus a few laughs along the way on his presentations.

Dantheman62 · 03-18-2009, 03:20 PM

Well said pyrangello!

mu2143 · 03-18-2009, 05:25 PM

Remember this ;

The truth will set you free, but first it will **** you off.

What do you think if the people who where not aware of this till the day they see it on TV. RIOTS that is what they elite wants. Because they did not learn, by them selfs and wil react with anger. OEPS

Always think before you act. I know what they think and is not difficult to do what they are doing.
They know how the people will react if they know there scr.ewed, but will blame this one the front man and them selfs, so they are in the dark.

mu2143 · 03-18-2009, 05:27 PM

They know how the people will react if they know there scr.ewed, but will blame this one the front man and NOT on them self, so they are in the dark

Forgot the NOT word

recallone · 03-18-2009, 06:00 PM

Steve, the only problem with your 'Conservative vs the world' explanation is that there is no party system. The party system is just one more way to keep us distracted, not something that actually represents a working model of government. And it was pointed out that many of the FEMA camps were built during the Bush administration (although most of us know that those camps have been in the process of being built for more than 8 years), so the argument about his shows being nothing more than a voice of dissatisfaction doesn't carry much weight for me.

Pyrangello,

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And if you don't like FOX hey there is always free will to turn the channel but for those of you who don't agree with FOX's direction I really have to wonder why your watching FOX enough to critique there programming , HMMM something to think about!

Really?! That's your best offering? I don't watch TV, superstar. I get my news from alternative news sources - NOT mainstream media. These were videos from youtube. I didn't record them and I'm not an avid follower of Glenn Beck. And I'm certainly not a follower of Bill "F@#k it, we'll do it live" O'Reilly. So if we could dispense with the intellectual posturing, I'd really appreciate it.

I assumed I didn't need to state the obvious as points to rule out in this matter. The political party argument is ridiculous because anyone who has done even a moderate amount of research concerning U.S. politics knows that we don't live in a democracy anymore. 'Turn the channel' isn't even remotely applicable guidance because I'm not trying to figure out what size Glenn Beck Show t-shirt I need to order, but how they're using these broadcasts to manipulate the minds of the masses.

If they're trying to bring attention to these things, the big question is WHY. Are they behind schedule? Are they trying to manufacture civil unrest? And if so, WHY are they pushing the timetable - IF that's what they're in fact doing. How much time is left before there is a run on the banks? We know they've been pushing the inevitable collapse of the dollar off by printing more money, but this formula won't work much longer. Meanwhile, they're trying to sneak through gun legislation that prohibits the carrying of firearms in State Parks. I saw three HumVs on a flat bed truck on Interstate 5 on my way to work this morning, all with gun turrets. The stock market has been in 'rally' mode the last few days, but lets not forget that the government has the authority to manipulate those numbers according to one of the executive orders (don't remember which one it is right now).

I brought up this topic not because I need to know if I can trust Glenn Beck, but to discuss what's happening in the propaganda-laden tool of control that is the media. I already know the economy is about to crash, and I know it's by design - what I'm interested in figuring out is how much time is left. Not whether or not I can trust Fox news or the words of my country's politicians. Anyone who believes either is a fool. This is a big, multidimensional puzzle - it must be looked at from all angles to ascertain what's going on, what the motivation is, and how best to keep yourself and your loved ones safe while it's playing itself out.

Arm-chair analysis and condescension is not what you actually think or feel about it, but what they've programmed you to recite about it.
Sorry if this is curt, but I really don't have time to mince words anymore.
Peace

Steve_A · 03-18-2009, 07:40 PM

Hi recallone,

I wasn't trying to put forward any 'Conservative vs the world' speech.

You asked why Glenn Beck was on Fox and I gave you my opinion. If the Republicans were in power Glenn Beck wouldn't have got a look in.

As for there being a no party system in politics, I thought that opinion was clear by what I had posted. I said that the President just manages the government. His selection of Secretaries, which by the way are bi-partisan are only administrators of their particular sector.

Really you must read more attently to what is posted in the forum before jumping to false conclusions.

Best regards,

Steve

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Originally Posted by recallone

Steve, the only problem with your 'Conservative vs the world' explanation is that there is no party system. The party system is just one more way to keep us distracted, not something that actually represents a working model of government.

recallone · 03-18-2009, 10:00 PM

No, Steve. YOU need to read a little more closely.
I didn't ask WHY he was on Fox, but what the true agenda is. You're trying to offer the truth of what's going on by expounding on the very system that PROMOTES the deception. It's not about the conservatives, republicans, democrats or anything else. All of that is smoke and mirrors to keep the sheeple distracted and occupied. If we're focused on how this party is trying to smear the name of that party and how that party is wrong because of this and that then we're not only endorsing the illusion with our beliefs, but we're overlooking what's really going on.

As for your statement

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I said that the President just manages the government. His selection of Secretaries, which by the way are bi-partisan are only administrators of their particular sector.

Do you REALLY believe that Obama is managing anything? Was Bush? They're all just puppets. How many NEW players did Obama appoint? Watch this interview with Gerald Celente. "By their deeds you shall know them".

You're trying to say that Glenn Beck is on Fox because its a Republican station and they want to lay the blame on Obama's Democratic doorstep for everything that's going wrong and is about to go even more wrong. Don't you see the shortcomings of that explanation? There is no democratic or republican parties - it's all a big puppet show to keep you, the average citizen watching the one hand, while the other hand - the real government, the ones who are really in control - is steadily raping us of our rights. Elected representatives were telling congress that their constituents were overwhelmingly opposed to the bailout...but it went through anyways. Is there a political party explanation for that, too? Or is the answer more obvious? I think there is. There is no democracy.

The idea that Fox is a "Republican" news channel implies that another news channel with different political affiliations is more trust worthy. Is there any news channel on television that actually reports what they want to report? Or are they handed the script same as every other news channel? Here's an interesting spotlight on Fox, in case you haven't seen it.

All of the news channels across the board allow the pertinent issues to fade away while we focus on Octomom or American Idol. They're ALL under the thumb of the PTB, keeping us focused on what they WANT us focused on. And disappointingly enough, it's working. Even in here.

In the past, Fox has been even more transparent than some of the other stations in their intent, so it's been easier for us to see how the opinions of their viewers are manipulated by the stories and commentaries. This is a new approach, however. I'm interested in what it really means, what they're trying to accomplish...without the employ of political rhetoric that's essentially empty to begin with as a means of discussing it.

mu2143 · 03-18-2009, 10:38 PM

recallone you right on, what it looks like what the elite is doing. Is to try to steer the main stream media Robots in a direction of there control.

Forgot about the mainstream media your never going to find anything, but getting lost. Onless for those that start to think for them self wil look for the information them selfs ,but most people wil not try it anyway. They think there stil going to work in 2013/2014, but the old way will be totaly gone by that date.

2009 will be the year of change that the autobots

did not vote for

Steve_A · 03-18-2009, 10:40 PM

Hi recallone,

With all due respect you asked two questions in your initial post.

"But he's on Fox!! WTF?!"

and

"Any thoughts?"

You said that you wondered what was the agenda by putting this man on the air.

If you asked, "Any thoughts?", the replies offered were what you asked for.

Trying to steam roller them won't change them.

I could try to argue with you that perhaps you are looking too much into it.

I am non-political, nor American, nor really interested in party politics, however to suggest that another channel is more trustworthy because it isn't Republican is relative to whom is watching. It is up to us to discern the information offered by these news channels (in the case of Fox not much) and arrive at our own conclusions.

Of course, in the case of channels like Sky that are owned by the Rudolf Murdochs, or Bishop Marcelos of this world, of course they are used to try and influence the way we think and to put out messages in favour of their owners, whom are mostly politicians, but then I go back to what I have already stated in the last paragraph.

The TV channels do what they want. What will be will be.

Best regards,

Steve

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Originally Posted by recallone

No, Steve. YOU need to read a little more closely.
I didn't ask WHY he was on Fox, but what the true agenda is. You're trying to offer the truth of what's going on by expounding on the very system that PROMOTES the deception.

Humble Janitor · 03-19-2009, 01:24 AM

I avoid Fox News because the network is totally negative-orientated, right-wing biased propaganda. Their affiliates are just as bad and are a bunch of cheap bastards because they don't caption their broadcasts.

You better believe that they'd mix in lies with any amount of truth that they get. In the long run, they are just the same as the networks they claim are not fair and balanced. As long as Uncle Rupert is pulling the strings, the dummies will talk.

Humble Janitor · 03-19-2009, 01:28 AM

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Originally Posted by pyrangello

And if you don't like FOX hey there is always free will to turn the channel but for those of you who don't agree with FOX's direction I really have to wonder why your watching FOX enough to critique there programming , HMMM something to think about! In closing I don't agree with everything on any channel or what I read. Most on this board whatever the fence your on give great views and that has made me think outside of the box topics, for that I am appreciative even though we may agree to disagree!

O'Reilly shouts down some of his guests and interrupts them. Hardly professional and it makes him and Fox News look like a bunch of amateurs. When Letterman and Olbermann criticize him, they are spot on and correct because Bill 'O is nothing but a womanizing, unprofessional jerk. He likes to make mountains out of molehills by taking an issue that bothers him and slandering the people behind the issue, etc.

Hannity's nothing but a liberal hater. Fox caters well to the sexist, white male crowd. Just look at their female anchors. They're all airbrushed supermodels with absolutely no knowledge of news.

I could go on and on but if I were you, I would not believe ANY of the cable news networks.

recallone · 03-19-2009, 01:39 AM

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Originally Posted by Humble Janitor

I avoid Fox News because the network is totally negative-orientated, right-wing biased propaganda. Their affiliates are just as bad and are a bunch of cheap bastards because they don't caption their broadcasts.

You better believe that they'd mix in lies with any amount of truth that they get. In the long run, they are just the same as the networks they claim are not fair and balanced. As long as Uncle Rupert is pulling the strings, the dummies will talk.

RIGHT! Which makes Glenn Beck's recent contributions even more eye brow raising. Bringing to the mainstream media's attention - FEMA camps? He's sounding the alarm that very much needs to be sounded, but....he's on FOX! I'm trying to figure out if guys like Glenn Beck and Alex Jones are regular guys who happen to be in the right place to spread the word, or if they're just more pawns in the chess game, inserting the right amount of panic to tip the scales in the direction desired by the PTB.

The collecting of pictures from concerned Americans is one of a number of things that really grabbed my attention. I'm beginning to think that we're not as close to civil unrest as they'd like and so they're trying to stir things up with guys like Glenn Beck. But then, a part of me wants to believe that he's just a concerned citizen like so many of us.
Frustrating.

Humble Janitor · 03-19-2009, 01:49 AM

I still don't like Beck but you know, someone's gotta say it.

It's too bad that the 2012 stuff, microchipping stuff is usually tied to religious movements and easily and ignorantly dismissed by the mainstream.

pyrangello · 03-19-2009, 02:44 AM

Just for the record here, I don't slam cnn, cnbc, msnbc, or any of the main 3 network stations abc, cbs, and nbc or pbs, coast to coast. And there at different times I'll watch other news programs when the time is right and I have time. I'm a pretty busy guy. Everyone's entitled to their own opinion for sure but the Fox topic does enter on this site more than the rest.

Humble J - yea your right sometimes O'reiley does shout some points of view down and so does Beck too. Hannity should come up for air for a while, and the gals on fox for looks does speak for itself on a surface but I will say those gals are right up with the guys on the debate side and better at times. Ah so it goes, My 2 cents on the news , we all have to look at the slant everywhere. If anything this site has taught us all and that is to be objective until the dots connect.

And for Recall 1 , superstar , hey I like that , gonna have to add that to my Bio, oh thats right I don't have a Bio ! Question - What does the agendas of the news hold for the future according to now? From whatever source, Gonna give this my best shot, Did you ever look at a painting on the wall and try to determine if it was straight, so you close your eyes and stop for a moment , then open your eyes and whats the first thing you see, not the color, not the frame, not the picture at all or whats in it, only that if it is straight or crooked.No emotions , just a raw answer with no emotions attached.

Fast forward to the news, what you have read, internet sites you have searched from links, books you have read, your family and your standards of right and wrong, newspapers, magazines, schools. All that combined, now step back , close your eyes and what is the first thing your thinking how all this is gonna turn out and that includes yesterday's tv news and opinions?

I would say if you are on this site , your special because something is inside of you is searching, the powers that be have their game plan going , Gerald Celente has one direction on the economy and so many more have their perspectives, I happen to like gerald celente too. But lets take things at face value at to what has happened lately. Remember the Dot com crash, before it crashed many said this momentum can't hold up, and away it went. Ralph Roberts the real estate guy said this mortgage mess is going to look to make the saving and loan scandal look like a 5 mph train crash, here it is. You watch 60 minutes lately with bernake the fed chairman, doesn't seem right and then the interview with the gal from the FDIC which insures savings accounts, nope that interview was very dodge ball stylish, it kind of left you with that warm fuzzy feeling on fire. So keep putting this all in the mixing bowl, all the info from everywhere, what is the answer?

So Recall 1 You start first, if you close your eyes and stop for a minute , open them and what is your first thought on how all this all plays out with the info you have to date from wherever?

I hope I made some sense here, rambling , got to get some sleep , long day today , good evening from michigan . I'll give you my opinion tommorrow.

.

recallone · 03-19-2009, 11:04 PM

I was initially reluctant to respond to your request, Pyrangello. But after thinking about it, I believe too many people are avoiding talking about the elephant in the room, and I think it is about time. For those of you who don't prefer to look at the reality of what's taking place, you may not want to read the rest of this post.

With more people losing their jobs daily, and more people losing their homes daily, people are going to become desperate. Crime will rise. Only it won't be the kind of people you ordinarily associate with crime. It will be people just like you and me who are trying to take care of their family. Social programs are already stretched and inadequate. Savings for those people without income (if they had any to begin with) is going to be used up in pretty short order. People aren't buying the things that they once bought and more businesses are laying off employees or closing altogether as a result - which means more unemployed. Everything is contracting - it's folding in on itself.

Meanwhile, our government is essentially printing money, that devalues ALL of its' worth, then throwing it away in a manner that allows the media to keep all of us occupied with the topic of it - we watch in horror, maybe complain a little, and the situation becomes even worse because there is nothing stopping it from happening and everyone is too preoccupied with just trying to keep their house or their job to focus on anything that even resembles a solution.

At some point, there will likely be a run on the banks. Supermarkets and food retailers will be overrun with a rush that will likely become violent. Insert false flag at any point during this mix (avian flu pandemic, terrorist attack, etc). A nuclear situation is entirely possible too when you consider all the military maneuvering taking place. Martial law goes into effect to address the situation and a new global currency is announced. Get your chip at the local post office and if things are too hard for you, get on this bus and we'll take you somewhere with three hots and a cot. Registered gun owners will likely be sought and disarmed after an announcement of some kind is made that your guns are now against the law.

Take a look at Obama's proposed gun ban list.
CNN story about it.

All the while, local law enforcement agencies are getting shiny new toys like this one from the government.

"The Richland County, South Carolina Sheriff's Department (that's them above) just obtained an armored personnel carrier, complete with a belt-fed, .50-cal turreted machine gun. Sheriff Leon Lott has charmingly named the vehicle "The Peacemaker," and insists that using a caliber of ammunition that even the U.S. military is reluctant to use against human targets (it's generally reserved for use against armored vehicles) will "save lives."
Tough to imagine the slogan "To protect and to serve" alongside this pic, isn't it?
Source: http://www.reason.com/blog/show/128482

As for non-lethal solutions, there's a reason why they've been designing these. There's also a perceived need for these too. Don't even get me started on the Boston Dynamics Big Dog. Youtube link. Boston Dynamics link. It can carry 340 pounds. Of what? Use your imagination.

I think we're all going to be faced with some very serious questions in the not-too-distant future. What are you willing to do to protect yourself and your family? What will you do when those who have made no preparations and have no means of buying any come to you? Where are additional supplies coming from when you've exhausted yours? Is it even conceivable that life in major cities can sustain itself without goods being shipped in? With a failing economy and global confidence faltering regarding our ability to make good on past loans, the big question to ask yourself is this: Can America restructure itself at a moments notice to provide for the people of this country? I don't think it can. I don't even know how many stories I've seen or heard on the news lately of people killing their families then killing themselves. With the above mentioned stress, unfortunately - I think that trend will continue. These aren't easy questions to ask yourself, but I don't see how any of us can avoid them.

For the record, I don't want any of the above to happen. I want to be wrong. But there are certain things you simply can't dismiss. Well, I can't dismiss. What I'd prefer is a shift in focus and resources. I'd like to see free energy implemented immediately. I'd like to see Monsanto exposed and dismantled. I'd like to see big pharma die a spectacular death. I'd like to see technology used to make our lives easier, rather than being used as a tool for further enslavement. I'd like to have a cold glass of tap water without fluoride in it while I look upon a chem-trail-free sky. I'd like to see people actually looking each other in the eye and recognizing a greater connection. I'd like the welfare of all of us to be the most important thing to all of us. I'd like the governments and religions of the world to come clean on suppressed ancient knowledge, the alien presence, and the technology they've acquired as a result of meetings and reclamation of downed crafts.
I'd like the truth to be commonplace.

Instead, I see prescription drug induced zombies who believe terrorists murdered all those people in New York. I see money infecting and corrupting what should be a natural instinct to help people in need. I see entitlement issues, justified by a system that has sought to divide us from one another from day one. While people are suffering without homes, without jobs, without hope...incompetent executives who probably never put in an honest day's work in their lives collect obscene bonuses that worsen the situation, both nationally and globally. The voices that offer realistic solutions are ignored or silenced while the military industrial complex continues its' mission.

Our earth is changing. Our universe is changing and we're changing right along with it. Those of us who are informed walk the tightrope of existing in the now and raising our vibration while encouraging others to wake up and prepare themselves, both for this dimension and the next. It all has to be a collective effort, but sadly enough - most people continue to exist in a bubble of denial about what's happening. Communities, or tribes, pods, whatever you want to call it - are going to be necessary.

I think the poles will shift and we are going to see storms the likes of which we've never seen before. Oceans will relocate and entire populations will be wiped out in a matter of minutes. Volcanoes will erupt and the earth will quake in ways we can't even imagine. I also feel that a vibrational change is going to happen that will allow many of us to escape a lot of this at some point. It might be like the bible describes as the rapture -or it may be a gradual thing, like an acquired ability to go back and forth between dimensions. Those who allow their intuition to guide them will have a much better chance at survival than those who are wrapped up in fear or dis-empowering thoughts of a force outside of themselves that will save them. I feel it's entirely possible that some of the things we consider to be necessary for life (food, water, shelter) will no longer be necessary once we've achieved this understanding. When will that happen? I dunno. I think we're all able to do a lot more than we think we can TODAY, but are held back by the programming we believe as fact.

There are a lot of unknowns.
I'm okay with not knowing for sure what's going to happen. But based on what I'm seeing and how various things are being manipulated (not the least of which could be this recent rally in the stock market), I feel better about tending to my family's safety by preparing for any outcome. Part of preparing, for me - is in trying to read the telegraphed moves of those that seek to inflict harm. Like a fighter watches for his opponents telegraph (or tell-tale sign that a certain punch is on its' way).

I personally don't see how this situation can right itself and I haven't heard a legitimate explanation as to why it should. Yet. I hope somebody comes up with something, because the whole idea of solving a credit crisis with more credit is about the stupidest thing I've ever heard. Sorry, but the emperor is naked, y'all. So, I prepare. And I encourage others to do the same. And try to figure out the move behind the moves by discussing it with other people who are not afraid to look at the man behind the curtain. There are more of us than there are of them and love wins all.

much love and light to you all
recallone

Avid · 03-19-2009, 11:17 PM

PLEASE don't get violent - plant an organic garden - how dissident is that?
We can react in more positive ways - and I realise that the homeless and needy should be fed and given the best opportunities.
I will share with those who are honest and hardworking, who have children with social needs, we can all work together.
I am prepared to share - are you?

pyrangello · 03-20-2009, 02:43 AM

Hey this is a great thread, informative, eye opening and just makes you want to do a group hug with everybody here. Recall 1 , if we were shooting a game of darts and I needed a partner I'd pick you. A big fat bullseye everytime. You have the program , you know whats going on, and you comprehend it all. That can be good , but if you live every moment of your day in that it can be bad too. Just as I run a business, stress is unbearable sometimes, been doing it for 25 years.

Finding the Balance
Still take whatever time I can off and always remember that the key to life is finding the balance, that doesn't have to do with material things, money or any of that other stuff. It can be looking at my fish tank or playing with my dogs.

There are 2 more parts to that balance and as you said love , light, As the avalon member Future Eyes said "create the light ,worry about yourself and certain people who trust you will follow the light when the time comes". It sounds selfish at first but when you try and pre-warn people you genuinely care about and they won't listen , whats your reaction, mine is frustration, and a big part of me that wants to shake that person and say wake up. At this point there is nothing you can do than what you are doing now. Trust yourself, trust your light.

The 3rd part of that balance is on a consistant basis , week after week , you continue to stay proactive in preparing for anything that is thrown your way, this includes purchasing items, plans, and networking with like minds. And oh yes there are many individuals out there and families all taking care of there own without saying anything, I think more than any of us realize.

As for the precession of the equinox and the pole shift , were in it everyday , it marches closer and closer and I believe is progressive meaning a series of shifts, possibly that bridge in minneapolis that fell down may have been a pre curser to the series. The earthquake site is at about 1000 right now in the U.S. for the last 7 days which is high, it's usually around 6-700. And yes there is a certain anxiety in the air that is growing, on the surface with the news and intuitively for those that can . So where does that leave us now. Many here on this site have more knowledge and intuition than the public mass. We just keep moving forward not in fear but as a spectator who understands not to get sucked into the vortex by maintaining a level head thru this all.

I understood all that you wrote and the levels of agendas out there are nothing more than what happens in everyday life, it's just gonna be on a larger scale now. I had a business that failed once , 2 of my top employees decided they were gonna start there own business and take the customers before I shut down. 2 complete opposites with 1 goal , to steal as much from me until I was out of the picture. Once I was gone in 12 months they turned on each other as their own greed shifted to one another. Thats the upcoming show we are going to witness. You couldn't pay me to be a politician right now . It's like an old world war 2 vet told me when more than 50% of the voting working public gets it's employment from a state , city , or federal govt level , things are gonna flip upside down. You can't have 10 pigs feeding out of the trough and 5 providing the food. And certainley all you have to do is just pay attention to the details on the news stories daily to connect the dots. This same scenerio will play out itself over and over again as the power shift among the elite take place , will just be watching the show sitting back trying to determine who is the shallowest of them all.

As the camelot site and many others talk about the white hats , There is much good in this world, These united states have 17 million u.s. military veterans living here and 2 million active abroad . I ride my motorcycle to rolling thunder every year in D.C.

Rolling thunder was started as a demonstration to keep reminding our elected leaders not to forget our POW/MIA.s Every year 500,000 motorcycles show up for this 8 hour event, no beer, no parties, no agenda, standing in the hot parking lot for 6 hours before you ride 20 minutes to the memorials in DC . The Korean memorial, Viet Nam vets Memorial, WWII Memorial, Tomb of the unkwown soldier. All to pay your respects and honor to those who fought for this countries independence. That many americans for one day and nothing monetary in value except for a noble cause. 500,000 from across the U.S.

Now play that out on a larger scale. Have faith , hope, trust yourself , trust your god, keep saying everyday to yourself were gonna be alright, keep that positive energy going , and always keep moving forward doing as many compassionate tasks along the way to help others. Staying the course on that level will instill the light that you have to keep all the demons of fear away. 10 years ago I went from being on top of the world to having $500.00 in my pockets and watching everything get sold or taken away from me. Then i got sued for another 2 years that cost me 52,000 dollars that I didn't have only to have my attorney tell me the judge got paid off and I'll never prove it. 4 years of my life but all the while I kept telling myself one day, one day I'll be sitting back having a beer and say life is good , and that day did finally come. Have a good night and good will prevail whether you or I or both of us are gone off this physical world at some point, hopefully not but Good will conquer evil when the day is done. believe it, live it. No matter what gets thrown at us.

recallone · 03-20-2009, 03:57 AM

Thanks for your kind words, Pyrangello. I'd just like to respond to a couple of the things you wrote as we continue on this topic.

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You have the program , you know whats going on, and you comprehend it all. That can be good , but if you live every moment of your day in that it can be bad too.

So true. I'm very much aware that it's a difficult task for many to be as informed as possible and still maintain a healthy vibration - one that's bereft of fear. For me, that balance has had a great deal to do with embracing a connection that simply cannot be severed; connection to source. What is there to fear if death is but an illusion? There is no death, so be here now.

We may lose ourselves in the maya, but the connection is always there. The strength and knowledge is always there. All we have to do is trust that it belongs to us and wield it as our inherent right.

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Have faith , hope, trust yourself , trust your god, keep saying everyday to yourself were gonna be alright, keep that positive energy going , and always keep moving forward doing as many compassionate tasks along the way to help others.

I'm with you on this except for the trust your god part. I am my god. The true power is already within. It can't be bestowed, granted, or otherwise awarded to...it simply is. One person who embraces this, truly is a powerhouse of creation. Several in a group of the same mind multiply its impact exponentially. A population of this mind? Perfect. No one lacks and no one fears. All is love because all recognize the other as self. One.

Thank you for sharing your thoughts, Pyrangello. It makes me happy to see the warrior spirit in you and I applaud your divinity.

Namaste

burgundia · 03-20-2009, 09:25 AM

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Originally Posted by Avid

PLEASE don't get violent - plant an organic garden - how dissident is that?
We can react in more positive ways - and I realise that the homeless and needy should be fed and given the best opportunities.
I will share with those who are honest and hardworking, who have children with social needs, we can all work together.
I am prepared to share - are you?

I am...

Steve_A · 03-20-2009, 10:14 AM

Hi recallone,

If the PTB wanted to stir things up, every media outlet would have 'stir up' comments, "Raise up your arms".

Using that argument, if they wanted to carry that message, Fox would have EVERY Alex Jones type person in their programming, and not only on Fox, but on all of the channels within the company.

Best regards,

Steve

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Originally Posted by recallone

I'm beginning to think that we're not as close to civil unrest as they'd like and so they're trying to stir things up with guys like Glenn Beck. But then, a part of me wants to believe that he's just a concerned citizen like so many of us.
Frustrating.

Lorien · 03-20-2009, 12:11 PM

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Originally Posted by recallone

RIGHT! Which makes Glenn Beck's recent contributions even more eye brow raising. Bringing to the mainstream media's attention - FEMA camps? He's sounding the alarm that very much needs to be sounded, but....he's on FOX! I'm trying to figure out if guys like Glenn Beck and Alex Jones are regular guys who happen to be in the right place to spread the word........

.....But then, a part of me wants to believe that he's just a concerned citizen like so many of us.
Frustrating.

My heart wants to think this is true, but my gut tells me otherwise.

03-18-2009, 08:00 AM	#1
recallone Avalon Senior Member Join Date: Sep 2008 Location: Southern California Posts: 289	Glenn Beck with sound words...but he's on Fox?! I've been trying to wrap my head around this particular chess piece for a few days now. I've been watching videos of Glenn Beck's show lately, and he's raising awareness about many of the things discussed in forums such as these. But he's on Fox!! WTF?! Here's a few links so you can see where he's coming from. There are plenty of others out there, too. The Government Are Destroyers of Wealth - Glenn Beck - March 3rd, 2009 Glenn Beck Mentions FEMA Camps on Fox & Friends Ron Paul and Glenn Beck talk about Fema Camps on his TV Show - March 3rd, 2009 Prior to the above clips, he had a show discussing Worst Case Scenarios with a couple of guests. His disclaimer is clear, although they pretty much go on to describe what many would consider to be the inevitable. War Games - SHTF Scenario (3 videos) added Jan 20, 2009 I can't help but wonder what the real agenda is behind putting this man on the air. There's one video where they've got a mosaic of pictures making up the American flag behind him...the pictures are of viewers that sent their pictures in...by request. I'm staying detached from all of it, but this one has got me really curious. Any thoughts?

03-18-2009, 08:13 AM	#2
Machinamentum Avalon Senior Member Join Date: Sep 2008 Location: Colorado Springs Posts: 413	Re: Glenn Beck with sound words...but he's on Fox?! I wonder when his "report" is going to be "good-enough" to be released? Was that some humanity being shown there at first? Was some logic creeping up their cold soulless necks before the boss made the call?

03-18-2009, 09:35 AM	#3
mu2143 Avalon Senior Member Join Date: Sep 2008 Location: Holland,Netherlands Posts: 470	Re: Glenn Beck with sound words...but he's on Fox?! What is happening is if the people become more aware of what is goining on they wil try to use that information and slowly mix it with lies. Same thing happened how they created the religions (Bible/koran etc) with versions over time. It's a trap for people who are just becoming aware of what is going on, but do not have the full blown picture of it. They can easily be mislead, because there not aware how to think for there selfs to filter the disinformation. Also to try to lead the people to follow the mainstream media to trust them again. Because they want you to follow them and not your self. Followers can be controlled and as soon you are questioning all information your receiving (5 senses) and deside for your self then they lose there power over you. In other words follow your self!!!!!

03-18-2009, 03:10 PM	#5
pyrangello Avalon Senior Member Join Date: Sep 2008 Location: Northern Michigan Posts: 412	Re: Glenn Beck with sound words...but he's on Fox?! I have a different take on Beck and Fox, lets say many people only retain 10% of what you have read in a newspaper article or a book. Beck is pushing the limits and yes is getting peoples attention. I think his passion for the United States of America is just that , free and independent . He's a family man with kids as well who knows exactly where we are headed and what mess we are leaving with future generations on an accelerated pace. Maybe this is what it's going to take for people to wake up when some their only source of imformation is TV. If you asked me of my opinion of Beck he's extremely aggrevated at the entire political system in D.C. as most of us are, republicans and democrats -does it really matter anymore, I'd say right and wrong are the main issues anymore, Justice and Injustice, and god, faith and country , and most of all character in decisions that are made, not how much money is for my campaign. As for Fox, I know there are a few on this board that don't like FOX at all. I happen to be the opposite. O'Reiley will ask a guest 3 times in a row the same question and you whatch the person trying to answer squirm and slither around never answering the question. That answer, the notta answer tells you what kind of person we are dealing with. Cauvuto is pretty good on business too. One of the most impactful issues and positive ones that I have witnessed is the charge from FOX against sancturary cities( where illegal citizens get pulled over for a violation or arrested and are not reported as illegal) . Or the crusade on megans law where if an adult is caught sexually abusing a child under 11 years old, it's a mandatory sentence in prison. And then exposing the judges who let some of these guys walk after doing only 6 months. For these causes I give the FOX network cudo's keeping the banging of the drum on the right issues. And if you don't like FOX hey there is always free will to turn the channel but for those of you who don't agree with FOX's direction I really have to wonder why your watching FOX enough to critique there programming , HMMM something to think about! In closing I don't agree with everything on any channel or what I read. Most on this board whatever the fence your on give great views and that has made me think outside of the box topics, for that I am appreciative even though we may agree to disagree! I say bring it on Beck to promote dialog and constructive change, plus a few laughs along the way on his presentations. Last edited by pyrangello; 03-18-2009 at 03:15 PM.

03-18-2009, 03:20 PM	#6
Dantheman62 Avalon Senior Member Join Date: Sep 2008 Location: So. Cal. U.S. Posts: 4,205	Re: Glenn Beck with sound words...but he's on Fox?! Well said pyrangello!

03-18-2009, 05:25 PM	#7
mu2143 Avalon Senior Member Join Date: Sep 2008 Location: Holland,Netherlands Posts: 470	Re: Glenn Beck with sound words...but he's on Fox?! Remember this ; The truth will set you free, but first it will **** you off. What do you think if the people who where not aware of this till the day they see it on TV. RIOTS that is what they elite wants. Because they did not learn, by them selfs and wil react with anger. OEPS Always think before you act. I know what they think and is not difficult to do what they are doing. They know how the people will react if they know there scr.ewed, but will blame this one the front man and them selfs, so they are in the dark.

03-18-2009, 05:27 PM	#8
mu2143 Avalon Senior Member Join Date: Sep 2008 Location: Holland,Netherlands Posts: 470	Re: Glenn Beck with sound words...but he's on Fox?! They know how the people will react if they know there scr.ewed, but will blame this one the front man and NOT on them self, so they are in the dark Forgot the NOT word

03-18-2009, 10:38 PM	#12
mu2143 Avalon Senior Member Join Date: Sep 2008 Location: Holland,Netherlands Posts: 470	Re: Glenn Beck with sound words...but he's on Fox?! recallone you right on, what it looks like what the elite is doing. Is to try to steer the main stream media Robots in a direction of there control. Forgot about the mainstream media your never going to find anything, but getting lost. Onless for those that start to think for them self wil look for the information them selfs ,but most people wil not try it anyway. They think there stil going to work in 2013/2014, but the old way will be totaly gone by that date. 2009 will be the year of change that the autobots did not vote for

03-19-2009, 01:24 AM	#14
Humble Janitor Avalon Senior Member Join Date: Sep 2008 Posts: 3,201	Re: Glenn Beck with sound words...but he's on Fox?! I avoid Fox News because the network is totally negative-orientated, right-wing biased propaganda. Their affiliates are just as bad and are a bunch of cheap bastards because they don't caption their broadcasts. You better believe that they'd mix in lies with any amount of truth that they get. In the long run, they are just the same as the networks they claim are not fair and balanced. As long as Uncle Rupert is pulling the strings, the dummies will talk.

03-19-2009, 01:49 AM	#17
Humble Janitor Avalon Senior Member Join Date: Sep 2008 Posts: 3,201	Re: Glenn Beck with sound words...but he's on Fox?! I still don't like Beck but you know, someone's gotta say it. It's too bad that the 2012 stuff, microchipping stuff is usually tied to religious movements and easily and ignorantly dismissed by the mainstream.

03-19-2009, 02:44 AM	#18
pyrangello Avalon Senior Member Join Date: Sep 2008 Location: Northern Michigan Posts: 412	Re: Glenn Beck with sound words...but he's on Fox?! Just for the record here, I don't slam cnn, cnbc, msnbc, or any of the main 3 network stations abc, cbs, and nbc or pbs, coast to coast. And there at different times I'll watch other news programs when the time is right and I have time. I'm a pretty busy guy. Everyone's entitled to their own opinion for sure but the Fox topic does enter on this site more than the rest. Humble J - yea your right sometimes O'reiley does shout some points of view down and so does Beck too. Hannity should come up for air for a while, and the gals on fox for looks does speak for itself on a surface but I will say those gals are right up with the guys on the debate side and better at times. Ah so it goes, My 2 cents on the news , we all have to look at the slant everywhere. If anything this site has taught us all and that is to be objective until the dots connect. And for Recall 1 , superstar , hey I like that , gonna have to add that to my Bio, oh thats right I don't have a Bio ! Question - What does the agendas of the news hold for the future according to now? From whatever source, Gonna give this my best shot, Did you ever look at a painting on the wall and try to determine if it was straight, so you close your eyes and stop for a moment , then open your eyes and whats the first thing you see, not the color, not the frame, not the picture at all or whats in it, only that if it is straight or crooked.No emotions , just a raw answer with no emotions attached. Fast forward to the news, what you have read, internet sites you have searched from links, books you have read, your family and your standards of right and wrong, newspapers, magazines, schools. All that combined, now step back , close your eyes and what is the first thing your thinking how all this is gonna turn out and that includes yesterday's tv news and opinions? I would say if you are on this site , your special because something is inside of you is searching, the powers that be have their game plan going , Gerald Celente has one direction on the economy and so many more have their perspectives, I happen to like gerald celente too. But lets take things at face value at to what has happened lately. Remember the Dot com crash, before it crashed many said this momentum can't hold up, and away it went. Ralph Roberts the real estate guy said this mortgage mess is going to look to make the saving and loan scandal look like a 5 mph train crash, here it is. You watch 60 minutes lately with bernake the fed chairman, doesn't seem right and then the interview with the gal from the FDIC which insures savings accounts, nope that interview was very dodge ball stylish, it kind of left you with that warm fuzzy feeling on fire. So keep putting this all in the mixing bowl, all the info from everywhere, what is the answer? So Recall 1 You start first, if you close your eyes and stop for a minute , open them and what is your first thought on how all this all plays out with the info you have to date from wherever? I hope I made some sense here, rambling , got to get some sleep , long day today , good evening from michigan . I'll give you my opinion tommorrow. .

03-19-2009, 11:04 PM	#19
recallone Avalon Senior Member Join Date: Sep 2008 Location: Southern California Posts: 289	Re: Glenn Beck with sound words...but he's on Fox?! I was initially reluctant to respond to your request, Pyrangello. But after thinking about it, I believe too many people are avoiding talking about the elephant in the room, and I think it is about time. For those of you who don't prefer to look at the reality of what's taking place, you may not want to read the rest of this post. With more people losing their jobs daily, and more people losing their homes daily, people are going to become desperate. Crime will rise. Only it won't be the kind of people you ordinarily associate with crime. It will be people just like you and me who are trying to take care of their family. Social programs are already stretched and inadequate. Savings for those people without income (if they had any to begin with) is going to be used up in pretty short order. People aren't buying the things that they once bought and more businesses are laying off employees or closing altogether as a result - which means more unemployed. Everything is contracting - it's folding in on itself. Meanwhile, our government is essentially printing money, that devalues ALL of its' worth, then throwing it away in a manner that allows the media to keep all of us occupied with the topic of it - we watch in horror, maybe complain a little, and the situation becomes even worse because there is nothing stopping it from happening and everyone is too preoccupied with just trying to keep their house or their job to focus on anything that even resembles a solution. At some point, there will likely be a run on the banks. Supermarkets and food retailers will be overrun with a rush that will likely become violent. Insert false flag at any point during this mix (avian flu pandemic, terrorist attack, etc). A nuclear situation is entirely possible too when you consider all the military maneuvering taking place. Martial law goes into effect to address the situation and a new global currency is announced. Get your chip at the local post office and if things are too hard for you, get on this bus and we'll take you somewhere with three hots and a cot. Registered gun owners will likely be sought and disarmed after an announcement of some kind is made that your guns are now against the law. Take a look at Obama's proposed gun ban list. CNN story about it. All the while, local law enforcement agencies are getting shiny new toys like this one from the government. "The Richland County, South Carolina Sheriff's Department (that's them above) just obtained an armored personnel carrier, complete with a belt-fed, .50-cal turreted machine gun. Sheriff Leon Lott has charmingly named the vehicle "The Peacemaker," and insists that using a caliber of ammunition that even the U.S. military is reluctant to use against human targets (it's generally reserved for use against armored vehicles) will "save lives." Tough to imagine the slogan "To protect and to serve" alongside this pic, isn't it? Source: http://www.reason.com/blog/show/128482 As for non-lethal solutions, there's a reason why they've been designing these. There's also a perceived need for these too. Don't even get me started on the Boston Dynamics Big Dog. Youtube link. Boston Dynamics link. It can carry 340 pounds. Of what? Use your imagination. I think we're all going to be faced with some very serious questions in the not-too-distant future. What are you willing to do to protect yourself and your family? What will you do when those who have made no preparations and have no means of buying any come to you? Where are additional supplies coming from when you've exhausted yours? Is it even conceivable that life in major cities can sustain itself without goods being shipped in? With a failing economy and global confidence faltering regarding our ability to make good on past loans, the big question to ask yourself is this: Can America restructure itself at a moments notice to provide for the people of this country? I don't think it can. I don't even know how many stories I've seen or heard on the news lately of people killing their families then killing themselves. With the above mentioned stress, unfortunately - I think that trend will continue. These aren't easy questions to ask yourself, but I don't see how any of us can avoid them. For the record, I don't want any of the above to happen. I want to be wrong. But there are certain things you simply can't dismiss. Well, I can't dismiss. What I'd prefer is a shift in focus and resources. I'd like to see free energy implemented immediately. I'd like to see Monsanto exposed and dismantled. I'd like to see big pharma die a spectacular death. I'd like to see technology used to make our lives easier, rather than being used as a tool for further enslavement. I'd like to have a cold glass of tap water without fluoride in it while I look upon a chem-trail-free sky. I'd like to see people actually looking each other in the eye and recognizing a greater connection. I'd like the welfare of all of us to be the most important thing to all of us. I'd like the governments and religions of the world to come clean on suppressed ancient knowledge, the alien presence, and the technology they've acquired as a result of meetings and reclamation of downed crafts. I'd like the truth to be commonplace. Instead, I see prescription drug induced zombies who believe terrorists murdered all those people in New York. I see money infecting and corrupting what should be a natural instinct to help people in need. I see entitlement issues, justified by a system that has sought to divide us from one another from day one. While people are suffering without homes, without jobs, without hope...incompetent executives who probably never put in an honest day's work in their lives collect obscene bonuses that worsen the situation, both nationally and globally. The voices that offer realistic solutions are ignored or silenced while the military industrial complex continues its' mission. Our earth is changing. Our universe is changing and we're changing right along with it. Those of us who are informed walk the tightrope of existing in the now and raising our vibration while encouraging others to wake up and prepare themselves, both for this dimension and the next. It all has to be a collective effort, but sadly enough - most people continue to exist in a bubble of denial about what's happening. Communities, or tribes, pods, whatever you want to call it - are going to be necessary. I think the poles will shift and we are going to see storms the likes of which we've never seen before. Oceans will relocate and entire populations will be wiped out in a matter of minutes. Volcanoes will erupt and the earth will quake in ways we can't even imagine. I also feel that a vibrational change is going to happen that will allow many of us to escape a lot of this at some point. It might be like the bible describes as the rapture -or it may be a gradual thing, like an acquired ability to go back and forth between dimensions. Those who allow their intuition to guide them will have a much better chance at survival than those who are wrapped up in fear or dis-empowering thoughts of a force outside of themselves that will save them. I feel it's entirely possible that some of the things we consider to be necessary for life (food, water, shelter) will no longer be necessary once we've achieved this understanding. When will that happen? I dunno. I think we're all able to do a lot more than we think we can TODAY, but are held back by the programming we believe as fact. There are a lot of unknowns. I'm okay with not knowing for sure what's going to happen. But based on what I'm seeing and how various things are being manipulated (not the least of which could be this recent rally in the stock market), I feel better about tending to my family's safety by preparing for any outcome. Part of preparing, for me - is in trying to read the telegraphed moves of those that seek to inflict harm. Like a fighter watches for his opponents telegraph (or tell-tale sign that a certain punch is on its' way). I personally don't see how this situation can right itself and I haven't heard a legitimate explanation as to why it should. Yet. I hope somebody comes up with something, because the whole idea of solving a credit crisis with more credit is about the stupidest thing I've ever heard. Sorry, but the emperor is naked, y'all. So, I prepare. And I encourage others to do the same. And try to figure out the move behind the moves by discussing it with other people who are not afraid to look at the man behind the curtain. There are more of us than there are of them and love wins all. much love and light to you all recallone

03-19-2009, 11:17 PM	#20
Avid Avalon Senior Member Join Date: Sep 2008 Location: UK Posts: 660	Re: Glenn Beck with sound words...but he's on Fox?! PLEASE don't get violent - plant an organic garden - how dissident is that? We can react in more positive ways - and I realise that the homeless and needy should be fed and given the best opportunities. I will share with those who are honest and hardworking, who have children with social needs, we can all work together. I am prepared to share - are you?

03-20-2009, 02:43 AM	#21
pyrangello Avalon Senior Member Join Date: Sep 2008 Location: Northern Michigan Posts: 412	Re: Glenn Beck with sound words...but he's on Fox?! Hey this is a great thread, informative, eye opening and just makes you want to do a group hug with everybody here. Recall 1 , if we were shooting a game of darts and I needed a partner I'd pick you. A big fat bullseye everytime. You have the program , you know whats going on, and you comprehend it all. That can be good , but if you live every moment of your day in that it can be bad too. Just as I run a business, stress is unbearable sometimes, been doing it for 25 years. Finding the Balance Still take whatever time I can off and always remember that the key to life is finding the balance, that doesn't have to do with material things, money or any of that other stuff. It can be looking at my fish tank or playing with my dogs. There are 2 more parts to that balance and as you said love , light, As the avalon member Future Eyes said "create the light ,worry about yourself and certain people who trust you will follow the light when the time comes". It sounds selfish at first but when you try and pre-warn people you genuinely care about and they won't listen , whats your reaction, mine is frustration, and a big part of me that wants to shake that person and say wake up. At this point there is nothing you can do than what you are doing now. Trust yourself, trust your light. The 3rd part of that balance is on a consistant basis , week after week , you continue to stay proactive in preparing for anything that is thrown your way, this includes purchasing items, plans, and networking with like minds. And oh yes there are many individuals out there and families all taking care of there own without saying anything, I think more than any of us realize. As for the precession of the equinox and the pole shift , were in it everyday , it marches closer and closer and I believe is progressive meaning a series of shifts, possibly that bridge in minneapolis that fell down may have been a pre curser to the series. The earthquake site is at about 1000 right now in the U.S. for the last 7 days which is high, it's usually around 6-700. And yes there is a certain anxiety in the air that is growing, on the surface with the news and intuitively for those that can . So where does that leave us now. Many here on this site have more knowledge and intuition than the public mass. We just keep moving forward not in fear but as a spectator who understands not to get sucked into the vortex by maintaining a level head thru this all. I understood all that you wrote and the levels of agendas out there are nothing more than what happens in everyday life, it's just gonna be on a larger scale now. I had a business that failed once , 2 of my top employees decided they were gonna start there own business and take the customers before I shut down. 2 complete opposites with 1 goal , to steal as much from me until I was out of the picture. Once I was gone in 12 months they turned on each other as their own greed shifted to one another. Thats the upcoming show we are going to witness. You couldn't pay me to be a politician right now . It's like an old world war 2 vet told me when more than 50% of the voting working public gets it's employment from a state , city , or federal govt level , things are gonna flip upside down. You can't have 10 pigs feeding out of the trough and 5 providing the food. And certainley all you have to do is just pay attention to the details on the news stories daily to connect the dots. This same scenerio will play out itself over and over again as the power shift among the elite take place , will just be watching the show sitting back trying to determine who is the shallowest of them all. As the camelot site and many others talk about the white hats , There is much good in this world, These united states have 17 million u.s. military veterans living here and 2 million active abroad . I ride my motorcycle to rolling thunder every year in D.C. Rolling thunder was started as a demonstration to keep reminding our elected leaders not to forget our POW/MIA.s Every year 500,000 motorcycles show up for this 8 hour event, no beer, no parties, no agenda, standing in the hot parking lot for 6 hours before you ride 20 minutes to the memorials in DC . The Korean memorial, Viet Nam vets Memorial, WWII Memorial, Tomb of the unkwown soldier. All to pay your respects and honor to those who fought for this countries independence. That many americans for one day and nothing monetary in value except for a noble cause. 500,000 from across the U.S. Now play that out on a larger scale. Have faith , hope, trust yourself , trust your god, keep saying everyday to yourself were gonna be alright, keep that positive energy going , and always keep moving forward doing as many compassionate tasks along the way to help others. Staying the course on that level will instill the light that you have to keep all the demons of fear away. 10 years ago I went from being on top of the world to having $500.00 in my pockets and watching everything get sold or taken away from me. Then i got sued for another 2 years that cost me 52,000 dollars that I didn't have only to have my attorney tell me the judge got paid off and I'll never prove it. 4 years of my life but all the while I kept telling myself one day, one day I'll be sitting back having a beer and say life is good , and that day did finally come. Have a good night and good will prevail whether you or I or both of us are gone off this physical world at some point, hopefully not but Good will conquer evil when the day is done. believe it, live it. No matter what gets thrown at us.