Rising sea levels - The greatest lie ever told

[Egg]

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/comment/c...ever-told.html



Have a read, and then sit back and really start to ponder on just what the hell is going on in this mad / sad world of ours when such a lie can be peddled with ease, and such a man as the scientist behind sea level calculations gets ignored by every one in the main stream.

In summary - sea levels have not risen for the last 50 years.

[Anchor]

Yes, lets keep people happy to live by the coast

[Egg]

If you read it - you will see that theres no worry about living by the coast because the sea levels are not rising.

Thats a pretty damn big lie to justify billions of dollars of research and project money AND this global warming scam now called climate change BS.

[blastawaycas]

Incredible !!!

Kindest regards dave caster

[burgundia]

Thank you for the link. a view from another angle; it's good to listen to both side.

[Egg]

Indeed it is good to see and listen to both sides BUT and its a massive but, we are only being forced fed the corporations and elites propoganda.

Here we get an honest view, and its chilling to see how he has been silenced up till now.

This ties in with Global warming??

I think the waters will rise, but not in the conventional way. The world heats from inside and the water table rises up to the surface????? Could this be the twist??? Just a thought.

[Dantheman62]

So I guess we can tell the people over in the Cartaret Islands that it's all a figment of their imagination and they can stop piling up shells and rocks to keep the water back now. I'm not saying it's rising everywhere but those poor people are desperate and running out of land fast!
And yes there's plenty of pictures to see it, not just a news article.

[alyscat]

Indeed, you can have Honest, well-meaning, but very wrong people putting out their theories. It's possible that he has been "silenced" because there is enough evidence to the contrary. If I were to say the sky was green, daily, even if I believed it honestly, I'm pretty sure the MSM would not pick it up.

[scanner]

Excellent news for us living by the north west coast of England ,may be don't have to move after all ? or may be I do ? don't beleive or trust anyone any more. SICK TO DEATH OF ALL THE LIES FROM OUR SO CALLED LEADERS.

[Dantheman62]

I agree scanner, I'm tired of it too! I think the earth is just going through a normal cycle that it's been through many many times before, and I think at times some devestating results. But with todays information network we're all that much more aware of it compared to the past.

[Egg]

Originally Posted by Dantheman62

I agree scanner, I'm tired of it too! I think the earth is just going through a normal cycle that it's been through many many times before, and I think at times some devestating results. But with todays information network we're all that much more aware of it compared to the past.

Couldn't of put it better. Bravo!

[Swanny]

Originally Posted by Dantheman62

So I guess we can tell the people over in the Cartaret Islands that it's all a figment of their imagination and they can stop piling up shells and rocks to keep the water back now. I'm not saying it's rising everywhere but those poor people are desperate and running out of land fast!
And yes there's plenty of pictures to see it, not just a news article.

Maybe it's only rising there???
Or maybe they are sinking??

[Dantheman62]

Originally Posted by Swanny

Maybe it's only rising there???
Or maybe they are sinking??

Yup, could be either or both, but the level is rising there. There's a whole bunch of articles, pictures, and videos of the Cartaret Islands and how bad it's getting there.

[Egg]

Pacific islands ...... made up of the protruding rims of an undersea prehistoric volcano. Today a little more than 1,500 people live in the islands which, from space, look like the beads of a necklace lying on a turquoise background.

potruding rim of an extinct volcanoe? well there you have it then. My bet would be sinking not sea rising.

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/arti...ea-levels.html

Even a kid knows that tectonic plate movement means some land sinks whilst others rise.

Just to follow up on what I posted earlier. It was an idea, but the seas will rise when they get warmer. Water takes ion a greater mass when the temp. is higher. This may only be a tempary rise in their case. But what ever happens I hope they get things sorted for those people in the way. I have seen the pictures and heard the news, but where is it on on the longditude and latitude? Is the ocean bulge getting higher then? I am certainly now expect and only have a bystanders interest, lets just hope they get help.

[Dantheman62]

Here's some more info........

In the case of Earth, there are eight major and many minor plates (see list below). The lithospheric plates ride on the asthenosphere. These plates move in relation to one another at one of three types of plate boundaries: convergent, or collisional boundaries; divergent boundaries, also called spreading centers; and transform boundaries. Earthquakes, volcanic activity, mountain-building, and oceanic trench formation occur along plate boundaries. The lateral movement of the plates is typically at speeds of 50–100 mm annually.


Three types of plate boundaries exist, characterized by the way the plates move relative to each other. They are associated with different types of surface phenomena. The different types of plate boundaries are:

1.Transform boundaries occur where plates slide or, perhaps more accurately, grind past each other along transform faults. The relative motion of the two plates is either sinistral (left side toward the observer) or dextral (right side toward the observer). The San Andreas Fault in California is one example.
2.Divergent boundaries occur where two plates slide apart from each other. Mid-ocean ridges (e.g., Mid-Atlantic Ridge) and active zones of rifting (such as Africa's Great Rift Valley) are both examples of divergent boundaries.
3.Convergent boundaries (or active margins) occur where two plates slide towards each other commonly forming either a subduction zone (if one plate moves underneath the other) or a continental collision (if the two plates contain continental crust). Deep marine trenches are typically associated with subduction zones. The subducting slab contains many hydrous minerals, which release their water on heating; this water then causes the mantle to melt, producing volcanism. Examples of this are the Andes mountain range in South America and the Japanese island arc.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Plate_tectonics

[Dantheman62]

The main plates are

African Plate covering Africa - Continental plate
Antarctic Plate covering Antarctica - Continental plate
Australian Plate covering Australia - Continental plate
Indian Plate covering Indian subcontinent and a part of Indian Ocean - Continental plate
Eurasian Plate covering Asia and Europe - Continental plate
North American Plate covering North America and north-east Siberia - Continental plate
South American Plate covering South America - Continental plate
Pacific Plate covering the Pacific Ocean - Oceanic plate

[Egg]

And this map shows that the islands are where at least 3 if not 4 seperate plates are in that area.



I am voting tectonics and not oceanic rise.

[Czymra]

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[Anchor]

It doesnt matter if its the sea levels rising, or the landmass sinking, the effect is the same.

Granted all the spin on climate change is not helpful, but I for one am ensuring that I live in places that are at least 150m ASL and my ideal retreat would be >800m ASL (where it is a little cooler).

I know that not everyone gets a choice but I see the sea level being an issue over the next 20 years.

A..

[Egg]

Originally Posted by Anchor

It doesnt matter if its the sea levels rising, or the landmass sinking, the effect is the same.

Yes it does here, because I am trying to show that sea levels may not be rising - these islands were brought forward as proof, and I have shown that A) they are on a very active plate line (multiple plates in fact join in this area) and B) the expert says the sea is not rising and he is being silenced - I actually agree with him, as in the 100 years my mothers family have lived on the coast, the sea hasn't risen an inch.

Granted all the spin on climate change is not helpful, but I for one am ensuring that I live in places that are at least 150m ASL and my ideal retreat would be >800m ASL (where it is a little cooler).

I know that not everyone gets a choice but I see the sea level being an issue over the next 20 years.

A..

I agree. Totally agree with you - above 150 is a nice little comfort / buffer zone.

as for those poor islanders, well, it truely is a heart renching thing to see what ever the cause of their plight is.

[vipassana]

From the article:-

The reason why Dr Mörner, formerly a Stockholm professor, is so certain that these claims about sea level rise are 100 per cent wrong is that they are all based on computer model predictions, whereas his findings are based on "going into the field to observe what is actually happening in the real world".



Thanks for this interesting info Egg. Dr Morner is A TRUE EXPERT in my book because he has questioned the computer model predictions and done his own research.

[Carmen]

I dunno about that Egg. Our coasts in New Zealand are being eaten away in places. Its not just a computer model here, you can see it. The coast off Oamaru,(east coast South Island, a guy lost his building to the sea! I sure as hell don't want to be on the coast in the next few years!

Cheers

Carmen

[Egg]

Coastal erosion isn't the same as sea levels rising though. Cliff erosion happens because the rock is weaker than the might of the sea - any coast line that is not granite or other suitably hard stone will be eroded over time.

Just use google earth to look at the coast of south east england, and then look at the coastal cliffs of Scotland. Cliffs are fine up there, but down south they are made of chalk or sand stone and are getting eaten away.