Great threads tbird
I'll link'em here for others to take notice, if they haven't already:
http://www.projectavalon.net/forum/s...ead.php?t=4035
http://www.projectavalon.net/forum/s...ead.php?t=4244
There's a great deal of fearmongering in this forum, luckly there's also many who see through it.
Sometimes seems like people actually want to be miserable... :s