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Old 10-22-2008, 04:45 AM   #192
BeaTnik-BandiT
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Lightbulb Re: Recent War in our Solar System By Norval & Gale

Hi Norval and Gale,
Ok....I am no expert in Bible decoding, but i have spend much time in reading accounts from alternative/conspiracy researchers, regarding our 'manipulated' human history.

My goal here is of course is to find the CAUSE/ACTORS and the TIME FRAME of this 'recent War' in the solar system.
So i would like to know YOUR take on these different accounts which have several details in common:


1- There is Immanuel Velikovsky (Worlds in Collision) who said that Venus could have been the planetoid that created havoc and destruction in the solar system 'recently' in terms of geological time.
The PTBs were discrediting and chasing him to make sure his life was miserable. No wonder that Velikovsky put his finger onto something.

2-David Icke (The Biggest Secret) says quite the same thing about Venus.
It was seen as a comet, or kind a big fireball with long 'hairs' in the sky, with kind of the same results of awe and destruction.

3- Stewart Swerdlow (Blue Blood True Blood) says that before the Earth was colonised:
Reptilians (Alpha Draconis) seeking conquest hurled a planetoid (maybe comet ?) weapon aimed at Mars and Maldek. Theses were supposedly colonised by renegade humanoid factions of the Lyrae constellation. Before the clash, Maldekians took refuge on Mars. As a result, Maldek exploded (asteroid belt?) and Mars lost most of it's atmosphere. And then, this 'weapon planetoid' stopped it's course where it's located today, known as planet Venus.

Unfortunately, Swerdlow doesn't gives a time range.

4- Michael Tsarion (Atlantis, Alien visitation + genetic manipulation) says
that approximately 50,000 years ago, a planetary body named 'Tiamat' (My note:could be 'Maldek' ?) has been mysteriously destroyed.
It was believed to have existed between Mars and Jupiter. He talks about this event to be Earth's first Deluge.

Here an excerpt from page 5 and 6 :

'' Around the time of this event, the solar system, and later the Earth, was colonised by extra-terrestrial beings who were either attracted to this solar system by that conflagration, or upon coming here caused the calamity themselves. Whether the disaster was natural or not, the result was that mankind on Earth experienced total and long lasting chaos and confusion.
.....It is thought that the alien invaders took full advantage of this predicament and moved in to bring about colonization.
.....some theorists, like the energetic Erik Von Dakinen have also determined that there was a great intergalactic war in the neighboring galaxy or solar system. The result of this titanic war had enormeous consequences for the Earth because, it is postulated, the losers (My note: the Atlans or Atlanteans) on being pursued pretended to take refuge on Tiamat. They even erected a makeshift radar-type station there to decoy their pursuers. However, the defeated ones had already taken refuge on Earth, not on Tiamat. Upon their arrival, they almost immediately went underground into existing caverns that through scans of the planet they knew existed.''

Wonderful isn't it ? (sounds like pure fiction at first sight, hehe)

Michael Tsarion says that the Nephilim/Atlanteans established their headquarters, Atlantis, on the continent of Appalachia.To make a storyshort, they made many genetic experimentations. They created a first slave race with the indigenous Earth inhabitants (with the same intellectual capacities as their creators) that eventually came into rebellion and left for Lemuria, were they became technologically advanced.

Then the Nephilim/Atlanteans created a second slave race that came to leave as well for Lemuria to join their 'Earthly' cousins.

excerpt from page 35:

'' The ire of the Atlanteans at this snubbing was so intense that they unleashed an atomic war on the ''sons of the Serpent'' and their Adamic wards, now resident on Lemuria (Oceania)....''

According to Tsarion, this war could be well have occured in very recent times, around the end of Pleistocene, roughly 11,500 years ago.
Recent discoveries are bringing the hypothesis that a 'comet' or whatever thing from outer space exploded over the Earth.

5- D.S Allan and J.B. Delair (Cataclysm) as genuine and well-intentioned scientists, concluded that a (or many) big object (Phaeton) brought destruction in our solar system as a result of the explosion of a supernova.- The Vela supernova- an exploded star, was unusually close, (45 light years) from our solar system. Calculations suggest that it erupted some 14,300 years ago.

Excerpt from page 210:

'' The above-cited detail that the astronomically close Vela supernova exploded sometine between 14,300 and 11,000 years ago indicates that, allowing for the time taken by Phaeton to traverse interstellar space between the pint of its original disruption - 45 light years distant - and the outer confines of the solar system, the planetary derangements under discussion took place approximately 11,500 years ago !

Assuming for the moement that Phaeton, after initially disrupting, subsequently traversed at high velocity on a course destined to bisect the solar system, it need not have actually moved at more than one fiftieth (1/50) of the speed of light to have covered the distance represented by 45 light years in just a few hundred years. ''

To finish, they concluded that this celestial body traversed the solar system, created havoc on Earth (possible pole shift, tidal waves, extinction of many animals, plants, shifts of Earth crust, etc). It caused the explosion of Tiamat (Maldek?) to finally disappear while heading toward the sun.(evidence missing)

- What comes to mind is that destructive events occured between 50,000 and 11,500 years ago.

- The 3 first accounts are concluding that Venus played the center part of a 'Natural' or a 'War' event in the solar system's recent history.

- The 2 last accounts are concluding with scientific proofs for a global scale event around 11,500 years ago.




salute.
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