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Old 11-09-2008, 06:26 PM   #43
Esther
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Default Re: surprising message from spirit about Obama "victory"

I posted this on another forum regarding the anti christ accussation.
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Many presidents have been accused of being the anti christ and many other public and private figures as well. The problem is that most predictors (because I refuse to call them prophets) bring the word around because it catches the public's attention and that fills the coffers. And most can talk the talk. Very few have walked the talk. Prince Charles can now take a break from being labeled the anti christ.

The epistles of John I and II are the only ones who mention the anti christ. The book of Revelation does not. And yet, anti christ proponents bring the two together as if they were proposing the same issue.

Quotes from the Pe****ta, the only Bible that comes directly from Aramaic:

"18 ¶ My children, it is the last time; and as you have heard that a false christ shall come, even now there are many false christs, and from this we know that it is the last time.

19 They went out from among us, but they were not of us; for if they had been of us, they would have continued with us; but they left us, that it might be known they did not belong to us.

20 ¶ But you have been anointed by the Holy One, and you are enabled to distinguish between men.

21 I have written to you not because you do not know the truth, but because you know it, and are aware that no lie comes out of the truth.

22 Who is a liar but he who denies that Jesus is the Christ? He is a false christ, and whoever denies the Father, denies the Son also.

23 Whoever denies the Son, the same does not believe in the Father; but whoever acknowledges the Son, acknowledges the Father also."

From this we know several things mainly that the anti christ would be basically against Christ, but for the purpose of this discussion that it was among the apostles and had come forth from them, not one but several people. Also, that the apostles would be able to recognize them because they had been annointed with the Holy Spirit. And furthermore, that the 'last time' or 'end of days' as have been proposed for the future were already with them.

From the Second Epistle of John chapter one:

"7 ¶ For many deceivers have appeared in the world, who do not acknowledge that Jesus Christ has come in the flesh. Such a person is a deceiver and an antichrist."

Anyone proclaiming Jesus was a mythical figure is the anti christ. So we have essentially been living with the anti christ for eons.

The ones who are speculating about the anti christ coming in the future are contradicting the Books that propose the idea. One just cannot twist this around for our own advantage.

The anti christ that the ones who study prophecy comes about from men's insistence to know better than the original writers about what the prophecy claims. So, they mingle these passages together with passages from Daniel and Revelation to describe the one coming who puts so much fear in the hearts of men.

For one, he comes from Magog, mostly claimed to be Russia and he is a homosexual. Some people also hint he's Jewish. The mark on the foreheads self defined Christians who would love to see the Rapture, say it is a microship or a tattoo. Others, say it is the government's intervention to prevent people from developing the third eye.

And the most feared number then comes: 666, which has already been with humans for a long time as part of the barcode system. So we are all guilty.

I think the most pressing problem is that the authorship of the book of Revelation is highly debatable because it is not in the style of John the Apostle. Many scholars now attribute that book to John the priest (a converted Christian) because it is full with Jewish scriptural knowledge something the apostles were not experts in. It also departed from Jesus proposition that He had come to fulfill the Law and in a gentle way wanted His followers to understand that and to stop following it. It was done and over with because it had already served its purpose. He had rather come to love was the answer and that included our enemies. These makes going to war, an anti christ ideal.

To try to fulfill all of these requirements, Obama has been accused of being a terrorist lover, a homosexual and a host of other things. The terrorist lover part, all of the accusers are now backing out of. Read the New York Times online.

His defenders and it includes many of the 'predictors' say he comes to usher an era of peace. And the ones with the talent to see human auras say his is golden.

These man has inherited enormous problems from a government that seriously encroached on basic human rights.

Ad hominem attacks and character assassination simply does not cut it. Evidence does. We as people must indeed be a force to change this nation to a gentler time and not be so indifferent to the future of the human race.

Hopefully, this is the beginning of a that gentler time.
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