[greybeard]

Originally Posted by tigre

for me ego means an instrument ...
you are used by it,
then you use it,
then you discover the effects in good and bad, basicly all the emotion that ego can produce,
then when you have enough of ego you turn ego of, and you enter a new world
the new world has many names, nirvana, state of eternal joy, paradise, valhalla, kingdom of heavens ect ..
this world, or state of perception is the goal of each of us, eternal peace in eternal wisdom !
each of us has is own way to reach it, there is not one way, but infinite ways ... the only truth is that when you reach it you are like safe

Thats as good a description of the process as any tigre.
Chris