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Originally Posted by trainedobserver
greybeard,
While the experienced world can indeed be proven to be a neurological illusion the fact that the real world does exist on the other side of our senses is also true and shouldn't be discounted. Our minds have evolved to present the real world to us in a manner suited to our survival. We can be assured that our actions within the simulations of the world we call our minds impact the real world and the other beings living in it with us.
We simultaneously live in the real world and a world of illusion. Two different realities effecting each other yet of different substance, existing in a different place, and occurring at a different time. Human beings can truly be called multi-dimensional beings. We live in one dimension and we experience it in a totally different one.
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Trained Observer.
Honestly if you read the work of Dr Hawkins you will find he is saying much the same as you.
Ramana's comments did not deny that there is a real world its just that the unenlightened does not see it for reasons you have given.
An enlightened sage sees the world totally differently.
Regards Chris