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milk and honey · 09-14-2008, 05:25 PM

"Ascension" has been very badly defined by "Ra" and others who believe in a "mass ascension" of the planet and it's people (who qualify) around 2012. And the qualifications for ascension have likewise been very badly defined by "Ra" and other astral entities who feign enlightenment and give unrealistic prescriptions for ascension.

Consequently, John Lear and others are probably only dismissing a straw man when naysaying the concept of 'ascension'. Some souls truly have overcome "greed, envy, and hate" and all the other negative aspects of the psyche like fear, pride, idolatry, dishonesty, anger, arrogance, conciet, deceit, selfishness, self pity, resentment, revenge, etc.

They have raised the vibration of the soul (resurrected those negative aspects of the psyche) and have already ascended into unity with the I AM (the higher- Self) in spiritual planes. In that wholeness of spiritual identity, some choose to descend into the subtle material planes where they remain active in our service. (We can attune to that inspiration if we can calm the mind and lead honest lives.)

Other Adepts who have likewise transformed their consciousness have remained in the physical plane where, incognito to most, they maintain a physical presence and inspire us in mostly unseen ways also.

Souls have been ascending from planet Earth for ages. It is not a brand new phenomenon and if we fulfill the same requirements we can ascend too. But it surely wont be all together in 2012 or en masse at any other time. So relax about that and live your love with discernment over the decades ahead.

Souls who originally descended from the higher- Self (into matter) can ascend back to the higher- Self (in spirit) each in his / her own time. John is calling this path 'maturity' and so it is. It's the unfoldment of a Self- identity that already Is because it Is our origin in higher octaves.

The ascension of the soul is possible because we are in fact NOT the creation of aliens visiting the earth in 'UFOs'. We are spiritual beings, a portion of whom is incarnate in the flesh on this Earth. Granted, the physical bodies of our race have likely been genetically tampered with ages ago (and even now) but we are not defined by our form and can transcend it even while incarnate in it. Our physical bodies are still adequate to the task -- with our present DNA -- of serving as the material platform for self transformation and ascension. One by one.

ps... just noticed John's post after writing this.

09-14-2008, 05:25 PM	#212
milk and honey Avalon Senior Member Join Date: Sep 2008 Location: Australia Posts: 222	Re: John Lear "Ascension" has been very badly defined by "Ra" and others who believe in a "mass ascension" of the planet and it's people (who qualify) around 2012. And the qualifications for ascension have likewise been very badly defined by "Ra" and other astral entities who feign enlightenment and give unrealistic prescriptions for ascension. Consequently, John Lear and others are probably only dismissing a straw man when naysaying the concept of 'ascension'. Some souls truly have overcome "greed, envy, and hate" and all the other negative aspects of the psyche like fear, pride, idolatry, dishonesty, anger, arrogance, conciet, deceit, selfishness, self pity, resentment, revenge, etc. They have raised the vibration of the soul (resurrected those negative aspects of the psyche) and have already ascended into unity with the I AM (the higher- Self) in spiritual planes. In that wholeness of spiritual identity, some choose to descend into the subtle material planes where they remain active in our service. (We can attune to that inspiration if we can calm the mind and lead honest lives.) Other Adepts who have likewise transformed their consciousness have remained in the physical plane where, incognito to most, they maintain a physical presence and inspire us in mostly unseen ways also. Souls have been ascending from planet Earth for ages. It is not a brand new phenomenon and if we fulfill the same requirements we can ascend too. But it surely wont be all together in 2012 or en masse at any other time. So relax about that and live your love with discernment over the decades ahead. Souls who originally descended from the higher- Self (into matter) can ascend back to the higher- Self (in spirit) each in his / her own time. John is calling this path 'maturity' and so it is. It's the unfoldment of a Self- identity that already Is because it Is our origin in higher octaves. The ascension of the soul is possible because we are in fact NOT the creation of aliens visiting the earth in 'UFOs'. We are spiritual beings, a portion of whom is incarnate in the flesh on this Earth. Granted, the physical bodies of our race have likely been genetically tampered with ages ago (and even now) but we are not defined by our form and can transcend it even while incarnate in it. Our physical bodies are still adequate to the task -- with our present DNA -- of serving as the material platform for self transformation and ascension. One by one. ps... just noticed John's post after writing this.