[asteram]

ahh, we've heard all this before, no? The sunrise is the sunrise, don't tell me it's anything more. The earth is a turtle-shell bowl held on the back of elephants, and the sun goes underneath in the night time. It's all karma, as I read yesterday on another forum. All karma.

What if?

Yes I'm talking to you, holy fool. What if?

Does this push your buttons? Good, say I. It is meant to do that. It is meant to make you question everything.

What care I if the book of Jesus says this and the book of Buddha says that and this other book tells me something different? What is my goal?

Give up on this lame **** of quoting others, arguing from their positions. What is your position? Do you get it or don't you? Is it yours or is it something you have accepted?

I think it's difficult to deny that the rejection of the hierarchy is heresy. How dare one do that? Dare you question all that you have accepted? Dare you question everything you have ever read, heard, experienced?

Do you think this writer is buying into the cosmology and dogma of the WingMakers? Do you think he is unable to discern? I (read I) hold no dogma. Rather I am ready to learn and to experience. Prove it, don't give me ********. I know ********.

Let's give a for instance. Let's say what James talks about in the interview has some validity. That all this spiritual hierarchy being discussed is actually a construct of a rather egotistic chip off the old block who saw the opportunity to cut a fat hog. This Anu. Is he special? Don't we all wish to construct reality and make it our own? What is creating your own reality other than that?

Do you think the Creator needs to be worshiped?

It's his creation, is it not? How much worship do you need from your own creation?

In the case we are talking about, where the Creator has split itself into myriad parts and given them each freewill: You yourself are a chip off the old block. Do you need worship from that you have created? Or do you perhaps have a grander goal in mind?

Here's what is going on from my point of view: the Creator has extended itself into the most dense form, and some entities have been seduced or intrigued into incarnating in dense form, in bodies such as our own. They may have been seduced into that by the inducements of the entity Anu; they didn't lack free will. They still don't. Nonetheless it has been a fascinating journey, has it not? Perhaps the Creator allowed it to happen in this way for a purpose?

What James may be saying is that part of the plan has been realized through the manifestation of actual soul/spirit/entities into these human forms, and these forms are personally sending back the experience to the Creator. The Creator has not yet, at least on this planet, fully manifested itself into its creation, but the potential to do so has been placed within the human instruments to access Source, to enable some unknown "source codes" to be activated, and for the full manifestation of the Creator's potential to be realized here. All feeds back to the Creator, but at the same time all feeds forward from the Creator.

I'll leave it there for now.