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Originally Posted by asteram

milk and honey-

Thank you for the effort that you put into your well written reply. I have read it and I understand your points, but I don't find that it is relevant to my level of understanding. I'm not trying to convert or assuage anyone's skepticism. Skepticism is very healthy and I practice it regularly. The purpose of my previous post was to point out what I found intriguing when I first really read a few dozen pages of the WM material 8 1/2 years ago.

Understood asteram. I appreciate you were speaking of your own first impressions. James' quotes were there so i discussed his own words.

Originally Posted by asteram

It does not appear that you have studied the WingMakers material in any depth, but that you are selecting and critiquing various small parts of a rather large body of information that has been added to regularly over a period of ten years. For example, there is no differentiation between the "true cosmic hierarchy" and your postulated false hierarchy. The hierarchy referred to is the hierarchy we know, and the slightly fewer than 100,000 initiates mentioned as following the path laid down by the masters are following exactly that traditional path, as yours truly has done, and as I would assume you are doing.

The "false hierarchy" is not merely my own potulate. It exists. The entities who comprise the "false hierarchy" are differentiated from the true christic Hierarchy by their negative orientation and vibration of anti-christ. Anywhere you care to look you will discover evidence for their abuse of power on earth through a pyramidal structure of elite families and organisations. I am speaking of the 'NWO' and all it's secret and open vassals in church and state, media, medicine, business, science, education, etc. That beast includes non-physical entities who are also hierarchically organised, worshipped by the top of the 'NWO' hierarchy and fed by the mass-consciousness.

By virtue of it's 'service to self' orientation the 'false hierarchy' has severed itself from the flow of the christ energy (within) and consequently it seeks to devour the lifeforce of all who are still receptive to source. The false hierarchy appeals to the vanity and passion of our egos in order to induce us to squander our sacred energies which re-inforces the corpse of their death paradigm. So long as we fail to identify them and their MO we will continue to reinforce it.

Originally Posted by asteram

Just because I am looking beyond the hierarchy does not mean that my teachers within the hierarchy were or are charlatans. Far from it. Nor do I reject or devalue the love and effort they put into teaching me.

I appreciate that. It's a matter of identifying the false from the true Hierarchy. You might consider the possibility that James' 'WM' are a part of the false hierarchy for the simple reason that no true spiritual teacher would misrepresent others or assert themselves utterly unique in all the personal 'powers' or assert themselves beyond true Hierarchy or teach that you yourself could do so, or sell a crowd or agenda like the 'NWO'.

The false hierarchy rarely appear as they are. They have established a familiar MO which always seems to work for them. They have always masked their activities behind a veneer of singular righteousness and service to others. Given that human beings have been largely stripped of "true identity" we tend to rely on external forces for guidance and sustenance so we have always fallen for their personalities and philosophies. They invariably veil their agenda behind props of piety and lofty principles. Should they fail to destroy a principle of truth which the people hold as axiomatic they will feign sympathy for it and add it to their own repertoir. Anything to appeal to their prey. Everything is fair game and useable as a hook to catch their prey. They have their finger on the popular pulse while spoonfeeding it with lies, feeding the soul unstoppable truths and telling us what we want to hear. Such a versatile and resposive beast will appear as it must to serve itself.

Originally Posted by asteram

The Source Codes are not the Chakras.

Not exclusively, no, but the chakras have been anchored in the 'human instrument' by the I AM and they are encoded with the I AM consciousness. In most people, except to generate negative energy, the chakras are inactive.

Originally Posted by asteram

Chakra is another term for what I refer to as the seven seals. I know them from personal experience, one through seven. What the Source Codes are is what I am working on "figuring out", so to speak. It is clear to me that they are not DNA, and I have found no reference to them other than through the WingMakers materials.

You have a sincere vibe asteram. You haven't taken offence and i appreciate it. It makes our 'figuring' a pleasure. Mostly James makes clear what he means. To me that includes his subtext which we may not agree on. Anyway, i share your understanding that "source codes" are not DNA but i believe i know what James is getting at. That's why i referred to the chakras.

Firstly, i'm sure there is nothing new in this concept of 'Source Codes' because there is nothing new in the "Divine Anatomy" of the individual. It has been well explored and well mapped. To me it's just a matter of translating his terminology for what is already understood in the experience of those who know and can be found in concepts already given. So...

"Source Codes" clearly originate in Source. What doesn't? But if the soul in the human instrument is to be activated by 'codes' what is the 'anatomy' of activation and reception? We know the 'codes' must originate in Source and are activated by same. How do the 'codes' awaken to the coscious awareness of the soul in the human instrument? The reason i referred to the chakras is because we obviously need to expand the definition of the 'human instrument' beyond a mere 'biological instrument'. And we have to take account of our own inner experience and the associated concepts already established to provide an explanation. That is what i've done, so i refer to the 'spiritual circuitry' in higher octaves of the 'human instrument' to explain how Source can activate it's 'codes' within the 'human instrument' which includes the "7 chakras" and the 3 subtle bodies beyond the biological form.

All information is code. The I AM Presence communicates coded information to the soul in matter through 'spiritual circuitry' of the 'human instrument'. And each subtle body within the circuit is "buttoned" together by the 7 major chakras to form an integrated circuit for the transfer of encoded information.

To put it only slightly differently...... In the Presence of the I AM, the white light of spirit - encoded with information - is transmitted through a cascading projection of light descending through the circuit of the 'human instrument'. When the encoded light first contacts the etheric body it refracts through the 7 chakras which are anchored at the etheric level of the 'human instrument'. Each of the 3 subtle bodies are integrated by the 7 chakras so that all bodies in the circuit contact each other at those centers and are receptive thereby to the spiritual impulse. Ideally, this is the way the I AM Presence communicates with the soul. The circuitry (source codes?) is created by the I AM.

By this point, the spiritual reception is very poor in most people because the chakras and subtle bodies have become distorted over aeons of incarnations. Because the individual has expressed so much physical, mental and emotional violence there are serious blockages of negative energy in and surrounding the chakras and subtle bodies which have disfigured the original symmetry and perfection of the whole instrument. Think of Krishna's flute. Krishna is "true identity", the flute is the 'human instrument' and the holes in the flute are the chakras through which the divine breath (encoded with Divine Song) is meant to flow. Originally Krishna fashioned them perfectly. Imagine that the holes in the flute become so clogged they occlude the flow of breath through the instrument almost entirely. The Divine One can no longer express Him / Herself through the instrument. Awful tones and horrid sounds replace the once glorious music.

In the majority of people the chakras are dark, dormant and in need of spiritual activation and cleansing. The physical brain and glandular system have consequently been so starved of spiritual communion that important glandular centres lay largely dormant for lack of spiritual stimulation. They too are in need of activation. Only the soul's source can restore the 'human instrument' / flute to it's original symmetry and perfection.

All of these self-inflicted wounds are the prison walls of the soul. All of this negative karmic energy blocking the subconscious regions of the 'human instrument' must be transmuted and changed so that we can freely breathe the breath of the holy spirit again within us. When the petals of each chakra are activated once again and are luminous with the perfume of spiritual light the karmic weight of the ages will melt away from the soul.

As you can see there is a lot to 'activate'. Are they 'source codes'? I know one thing; Spirit is the soul's source. Each element of the anatomy of self which i described is Spirit 'in-form'. The soul itself is Spirit in-form. The petals of the chakras are 'in-form-ation', the brain and glandular system are 'in-form-ation'. All in-form-ation is encoded light. There is no new thing under the sun presence of the I AM; except new brands.

Originally Posted by asteram

Consider what the WingMakers are saying through their representative: The entire spiritual path and organization that we are referring to as the hierarchy, with all of its dimensional permutations throughout the time/space universes, is a construct. Is there anything possibly beyond that construct, so far beyond it, for instance, that even energy doesn't exist? So far outside it that all of the construct could be bypassed?

Firstly, which Hierarchy is he referring to? If it is the "false hierarchy" then yes it is a false construct based on the illusion of anti-christ and consequently it can be by-passed to the spiritual realm beyond it where most of true Hierarchy dwell.

Our work is to prepare, by loving service and meditation, to become the conscious instrument of the I AM in the world of form. And when we pass on, to rise above the karmic necessity of perpetual re-incarnation.... To stay in the higher etheric realms for further development or to ascend to permanent fusion to the I AM and whatever adventures of total liberty await. Beyond that? I have enough on my plate for now, but "true identity" is no illusion. If it can be termed a "construct" then it has been "constructed" by Great Being. All can grow into their Creator and to whatever is beyond, add infinitum.

Originally Posted by asteram

Evolution/saviorship is one path, the path of the hierarchy, and one that is known to those of us who have studied and walked that path.

Those who have studied and walked that path to it's pinnacle teach that the 'savior' is one's "true identity" within. On the evolutionary path of the soul they arrived at that point of "combustion" and rapid acceleration to full identification with the I AM. They transformed themselves by the transforming power of Spiritual Identity. They attained mastership, no less.

Originally Posted by asteram

The WingMakers are saying that transformation/mastership is a very different route, and it is that one that I am pursuing. If it is a sham, I will figure that out eventually, don't you think? I am no longer easily fooled regarding such matters.

I hope so.

James is trading on semantic differences here to assert that somehow one can leapfrog the true spiritual Hierarchy into a state of Being beyond them? It betrays his fundamental ignorance, or worse.