[milk and honey]

The mention of Phylos was obviously going to be a red flag for you Doom. Presumably it won't matter to you that Olivers contact with Phylos was the first to deal with many of the subjects it dealt with at the time. Subjects which have since found their way into the body of "new age" literature in 1001 ways. But like i was saying about Jesus' life and teachings, just because they've been hijacked by shadowy forces, doesn't make the original release of these concepts tainted. [I'm not saying either that their reappearance everywhere is the tainted work of the PTB. Not at all.]

Interestingly, what we've both agreed about the PTB in regard to their funnelling technology to themselves is also true of the brotherhood of spiritual adepts that i'm talking about. By their own account they have kept the spiritual and scientific knowledge safe from the destructions of past civilisations. Apart from the occasional adept who incarnates on earth to teach the people (ie, Jesus, Guatama and others) they've lived apart from the masses for ages in mountain retreats around the world since they withdrew from the impending cataclysms that rocked the world.

In 1883-4 the book asserted that Mount Shasta is one of the retreats of the ancient brotherhood and just to illustrate what i was saying earlier about how the PTB hijack the identity of the adepts (ie, Jesus) the so called "alien saviors" are already pretending that they occupy the retreat in Mt Shasta. By doing so, the "aliens" have already hijacked the identity of the brotherhood and released reams of dodgy channelings - which as always must contain a fair degree of truth to be attractive - in an attempt to confuse truth seekers with promises of external salvation via UFOs and thereby derail the work of the real adepts by diverting our attention to "aliens". I suppose that is enough to make your head spin in disbelief Doom. "My God! Am I expected to sort that out?"

Fasten your seatbelt Doom i feel a lot of presumptions coming on... my own that is...

If from your POV you believe that the entire body of info in the "new age" is tainted from a tainted source which you are convinced is a psy-op of the PTB -- info that in the 1880s had never been previously released yet has been subsequently verified - at least the high tech predictions - metaphysical info which has frequently been copied by plaigerists sponsored by the PTB as i mentioned -- then you can reach no other conclusion than that Phylos' contact with Oliver was also part a psy-op, no? After all, his information permeates the "new age"does it not?. And if the entire "new age" is false then it is case closed. If, in your conviction you have never identified a credible source of spiritual information then maybe there is no spiritual source? Maybe nobody exists beyond the material plane? After all, the PTB are masquerading as spiritual and alien beings. Then eveything of the like must undoubtedly be their own invention?

If 99 apples in a barrel are rotten at the core then the 100th must be also? If there are satisfying and logical reasons for the rotteness of the 99 then the 100th - which looks very much the same on the outside - is rotten for sure?

If the spiritual ideas and info given by Phylos (and others over time) is well motivated from a spiritual source and is indeed reflective of truth then you might reconsider all your blanket dismissals.

I appreciate that this would be very confronting because at this point it appears to me that you cannot allow yourself to consider the possibility that any spiritual teaching which you associate with the "new age" - even if it was hijacked by the PTB to reinforce their own agenda - cannot possibly have been originally released with good intentions from a spiritual source. If you cannot then why not consider the question from a spiritual POV rather than only the PTB's POV and what you consider serves them? Some questions you might consider are... " in what i've been calling the "new age movement" what is true and what is not"? "What is possible and what is not"... and ... "what is plausable from a spiritual POV and what is not".

As you said to me earlier.... "just because something is possible doesn't make it true". Agreed. But doesn't make it untrue either. And just because we have TPTB wrapping themselves in a shield of truth in order to sugarcoat their own cache of lies doesn't mean we can safely assume we have all the truths identified simply because we believe we've identified all the lies. Maybe, given that TPTB make such resourceful use of truth as well as lies, you've mistaken some truth for lies? I know you're convinced in relation to the subjects we're talking about that it is others who are confused in that regard and indeed they are but maybe you are too. Allow yourself to consider the possibility that, on crucial points of reality, you may have confused truth for lies. And then try to approach each source of info with these things in mind.

I submit to you 'Horatio' that there is far more in heaven and earth than man dreams. But man can more than dream. He can know. With perfect self-knowledge (knowledge of the self as spirit) comes the knowledge of all else. That's what Jesus taught and is what i mentioned earlier when emphasizng the need for spiritual discernment of external information.

That's what Jesus meant when he said:

"Man cannot live by bread alone - (material forces, external sources)
"But by every word that proceedeth out of the mouth of the LORD"

Where is the "LORD'S mouth"? In his 'kingdom' with the rest of 'him'. Where's that? "WITHIN YOU".

Another question for you...

Earlier i asked if you were a 'materialist' and explained what i meant by the question. You answered me by acknowledging the spirit of man. But you made no mention of the now scientific understanding that there are dimensions of reality beyond the sensible.

Do you realise - conceptually at least - the nature and powers of a man fully integrated in spirit at all levels of his own being? Have you considered the possibilities that this suggests regarding the freedom of soul travel and possible habitation of higher dimensions of reality? Ever pondered what Jesus meant when he said? :

"I and my Father are One"

The "I" is the soul. The 'Father' is a metaphor for the spiritual source of his being. In other words his own spiritual identity or I AM Presence. Jesus the 'Christ' (and Guatama the Buddha) taught that everyone has an individual selfhood from the same spiritual source within (in the subtle spiritual dimension of identity) and all souls can realise it's full potential just like he did. Man's spirit is a far greater power and presence that mere tenacity and instinct for survival. It is the creative source of his intelligent soul which is untapped by people who are asleep in the mass consciousness

Jesus said:

"The works that i do ye shall do also
And greater works shall ye do
because i go to my Father"

He was really saying: Because I attained the union of my soul to spirit so can you and you can prove your self-mastery over matter like i did.

Jesus was not the only person to accomplish the integration of his soul with inner-spirit. Others have too and by doing so have attained the soul liberty to return to their origin in the spiritual plane with no necessity to incarnate again. Some of these adepts remain here to help inspire us to awaken to spiritual reality just like they have.

These principles at least suggest how it is possible that someone like Phylos could even act in higher dimensions and the power upon which he can draw to inspire Oliver to spiritual work in the physical plane. Lower astral beings can act in the lower astral plane as imposters of the adepts but that is a whole different bowl of soup. There are multiple levels of subtle materiality beyond the gross physical plane. So, a sharp spiritual discernment is required to sense the vibrational difference between spiritual and lower astral beings. In the case of "A Dweller on Two Planets" i know Phylos is a spiritual adept who dictated the book from spiritual levels.