[piers2210]

Thanks, all the above sound good, I'll check them out. I read Sitchin's "12th Planet" and his research appears so thorough its hard not to believe. I was interested in stuff about the secret government/illuminati, anyone know of anything beyond what William Cooper has written? Colin Wilson wrote a couple of great books "The Occult" and "Beyond the Occult" which seem relevant to some of their practices....