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Originally Posted by zorgon
You say that... and you have this in your signature..
Forgive me if I am confused. |
I forgive you
What's wrong with my signature? Do you doubt that 9/11 was an insidejob?
I don't know what exactly happened on that day, but I assure you the official report is the real conspiracy theory.
And I think you would agree about that.
That is not contrary to any historical facts I mention here.
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Originally Posted by zorgon
Von Braun did change his tune later in his career... He quit NASA because he was against arming space..
But he was not just an ordinary citizen... he built weapons of mass destruction and had no qualms about how they were being used... And when he came to America... he built weapons of mass destructions for us... long before he went to NASA... he built the ICBM's
After the war, 118 German rocket scientists worked together at Fort Bliss, Texas.
(U.S. ARMY AVIATION AND MISSILE COMMAND)
Operation Paper Clip brought 580 Nazi scientist over here..
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That I can explain to you:
von Braun always dreamed for a lunar flight. Even in his childhood.
He made sketches and plans long before the Nazis seized power.
But then they came to power, and he was in the right age to fulfill his dreams - we shall not forget the Nazi movement was a highly modern movement! - Hitler was the first politician who flew from campaign-speech to campaign-speech by plane.
They massively used the radio - they made a mass medium out of it - they even supported the developement of the TV and the first live broadcasting in 1936! And so on and so forth...
And that attracted von Braun, he thought that now his time has come for developing a lunar flight.
Till this moment (pre-1939) for most Germans the Nazi-movement wasn't really a negative thing - they thought they would bring them progress, especially the annihilation of the great unemployment was important for them.
They never guessed that a war would come, not in 1938 and not even in early 1939.
You can read it in old newspaper articles of British and American reporters of this time, where they described: "There's no nation on earth who is such war-reluctant as the Germans, they just enjoy their economical recovery."
But then - WHAM - the war came.
And also von Braun had to show allegiance to the system, for example by entering the party.
And there's a term called: "rally around the flag (in hard times)" Especially Brits are very familiar to this term.
"Right or wrong - it's my country"
And at least von Braun was a German and he did what he could do to support
his country - and that was to build rockets.
Of course that was terrible for the people in England - but what could he do about it? - he had to do it.
As Bomber Harris and his RAF pilots had to bomb hundreds of thousands of Germans to ashes - it was war.
In fact there are on both sides war criminals, but at the end only the loser gets accused.
And when the war ended, what should von Braun do? Germany was ruined and he was not a convinced Nazi but a Anti-Communist. Especially because he said to himself "Never again a totalitarian movement like the Nazis shall rule over Europe again".
Because he saw the result of that with his own eyes.
And Stalin and his Communists for him were the 2nd totalitarian force who could bomb Europe - maybe the whole world - to ashes again.
And so he choosed the Americans, because they were the big Anti-Communistic power back then.
And so at first he had again to show his allegiance to them by building ICBMs and taking the American citizenship - it was the Cold War!
But he never lost his paramount goal out of sight - the lunar flight!
And only at the end of his life it was granted to him to work on this paramount goal - the lunar flight.
And that was for the whole human kind. Earlier in his life he always was abused by leaders and world powers.
And today?
There are some smartass people who read 5 pages of some books related to him, where they read 2 words "Wernher von Braun" and "Nazi" and then they think that they are in the know and have to propagate it to others.
And the same procedure with the rest of the 580 "Nazi" scientists.
Nazi=German? Be honest folks!