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Shadowstalker · 02-13-2010, 04:34 AM

For argument sake, lets say that these archangels and angles are agents of God. From what I gather, humans are the ones who have free will whilst the archangels and angels carry out the will of god and have no free will. Therefore, if free will does not compute with these angels, then how could they possibly revolt against god? Also if heaven is of divine light frequency then how could the so called wars (heavier energies) in heaven be possible? Also, why would god even allow such a thing to happen – unless he is schizophrenic?

I agree, how could something that claims to be perfect, create such imperfect beings and why would this being need to have anything following him unconditionally, without question, then create beings with free will with the minds of curious children and expect them not to disobey, you can not expect a child not to touch the hot coffee cup even tho there are toys around, eventually they will get curious enough and sculled them self, but we as good parents can not see our selves to lock the kids in the basement, till there death, but this all so called knowing being (didn't know they bit the apple?) can keep us out of the garden? Oh I have a whole lot to say about the book of genesis, as a so called holy story from a so called holy book,

Even as a kid these stories never made sense to me..
I see it as a different type of story.

Any who I find this thread very interesting indeed, and i love how some of us are trying to make this work out, I love curiosity discussions.

02-13-2010, 04:34 AM	#17
Shadowstalker Avalon Senior Member Join Date: Oct 2008 Location: Austin texas Posts: 281	Re: Who Are Gabriel, Michael, and Lucifer? For argument sake, lets say that these archangels and angles are agents of God. From what I gather, humans are the ones who have free will whilst the archangels and angels carry out the will of god and have no free will. Therefore, if free will does not compute with these angels, then how could they possibly revolt against god? Also if heaven is of divine light frequency then how could the so called wars (heavier energies) in heaven be possible? Also, why would god even allow such a thing to happen – unless he is schizophrenic? I agree, how could something that claims to be perfect, create such imperfect beings and why would this being need to have anything following him unconditionally, without question, then create beings with free will with the minds of curious children and expect them not to disobey, you can not expect a child not to touch the hot coffee cup even tho there are toys around, eventually they will get curious enough and sculled them self, but we as good parents can not see our selves to lock the kids in the basement, till there death, but this all so called knowing being (didn't know they bit the apple?) can keep us out of the garden? Oh I have a whole lot to say about the book of genesis, as a so called holy story from a so called holy book, Even as a kid these stories never made sense to me.. I see it as a different type of story. Any who I find this thread very interesting indeed, and i love how some of us are trying to make this work out, I love curiosity discussions.