[gibonos]

Originally Posted by Fredkc

I gotta keep asking, and I mean no ill feelings towards you, pineal, but...

Doesn't Cliff High already have a web site?

Fred

we should ban talking about wilcock, deagle, veritas and others too
I though different prspective was #1 rule here and than we can discern

Cliff has an interesting take here. If time is just a perception (and I think it is), and all things past, present, and future are really happening at the same time, then why wouldn't it be possible to change one's perception to the relative past or future, thus traveling in time?

--sjkted

from what I understand: is you can not go to a place that does not exist anymore or yet (physically of course :-))

Well well, if time doesn't exist, consequently the future indeed doesn't exist either ... so what is halfpasthuman.com about then ?

I can easily understand the concept of webbots since I am a web-application programmer myself and although I am
not knowledgeable in linguistics I can only assume there might be a connection between use of language and psychic abilities.

But as of lately I noticed that Cliff is beginning to talk more and more on a vast diversity of subjects and seems knowledgeable
on physics, astronomy etc. (stardom fever ?) The core of it all ending up as fear mongering.

I tend to see it more and more as programming now ... (and as a programmer I should know).
If you overload the people with concepts and ideas (like the 2012 movie) we will end up manifesting it.
That's why the PTB don't like the popularity of the Avatar movie ! It will bring us back to loving nature and
kick the bastards of this planet ....

I know how to make predictions: I create programs and need a machine to execute it for me. Sometimes it needs a little
debugging but in the end it's exactly performing how I wanted it to be.

So ... let's not be a machine and become human again. Let the PTB execute their twisted programs on themselves

halfpasthuman is based on nuance, and from we wrote, would operate inbetween destruction and creation;
because we only get perception of time, we don't know how long do those events last in universe's time (maybe only "one" space fart :-))

i'm of the opinion that not "specially" trained in the area would be a better observer than those that are trained, in other words it's hard to notice change if your thought process doesn't allow it (lets say in clif current constract his not able to timetravel)

overload wouldn't cause events to happen simply because of overload, to manifest you have to focus, when I have overloaded mind, first I have to meditate/process everything and than can concentrate on something

Cliff has recently been setting himself up as a guru and going down the path of the whistleblowers he criticises. Let us not forget that last year he was promoting Andrew de Bassagio as the planetary whistleblower predicted by the webbots. Funny that de Bassagio was/is/will be a time-traveller, and Clif makes his money from one of the strange properties of time that even he doesn't understand properly, I suppose thats why he thinks he's qualified to talk about it.

There is a big mystery about time and I don't think Cliff has cracked it, I would rather listen to Nassim Haramein or someone who really knows what they are talking about, like Wubbo Ockels (see vid). I heard (or dreamt) that when Jrod or His Omnipotarsehole Krll was taken to meet the physicists he went up to the blackboard and rubbed out e=mc2 and replaced it with e=delta t c2.

i think those of us on this forum have enough discernment to see through all of these whistleblowers and other bs merchants, we all ahve to find our own truth...

what was said yar ago does not have to be true now, your argument would apply to you as well when you heard the first time in your life new claim and said it was not true, i.e. mr Smith who hears about 9/11 for the first time, he rejects it, but after a year his deep into conspiracy, came next year he is saying it wasn't a bomb it was a beem weapon, would you say his wrong, NO
just new facts or simple cogitation change his view point, we all have the right and responsibility to do so

from clifs site

Well, this understanding now means (until proven wrong) that time travel is not possible

My own conclusions:
He never wrote that he is not wrong, just for now, nor did he say believe me, but reject and discern for own.
What bassiago said was that you can not go past the time where the first machine was built, which makes sense to me, but what if there are other, not earthly timemachine on earth?

Contrary to that if timetravel exist why ptw wouldn't teleport or timetravel to after 2012 or 2015?
Maybe there is another way of traveling which we don;t know or are capealbe of understanding.
Reality shows however that if there is timetravel it is not so easy, vide ptw hiding not skiping couple years!

Another thing I wanted to write is the fact that clif is just a tool in universe, like tesla, jesus or simple john, he has a purpose.
He has the advantage of having model of model space, where he keeps himself and for my mind he keeps in line with what he sees there, self fulling life. Probablly he knows he will get a lot of bashing and booing, but does it anyways, putting his reputation on the line, which is not easy.
There are not to many people who are so controversial like him, either love him or hate him, which only shows to me that proponents should be more critical, where opponents need more discernment.

gibonos