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Old 12-31-2009, 03:00 PM   #154
Dood
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Join Date: Dec 2009
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Default Re: Cliff High view on Bill Ryans accusations

I am curious as to why the staff is ignoring Carol's posts on this subject of Francie being banned.
As many know that Carol was around here for a long time.
Longer then most and she has seen and heard many things here.

As I stated before Carol and I did not see Eye to Eye on some issues but we always worked it out and never treated each other with disrespect.
However here with this ISSUE (and it is a valid ISSUE) I have to fully agree with what Carol is saying.
She knows full well what the T&Cs are here.
And the fact that no T&Cs were broken. I have yet to see one staff member point to chapter and verse in regards to Francie Jones.

Making up new rules on the fly hurts credibility and integrity.

All of this could have been avoided IF the person that sent the emails asked Francie to AGREE to not share them.
Like I pointed out before just saying it within a email does not give 'protection'.
Francie deserves the choice to agree or not.
If Francie would have wrote back as to "Yes, I agree to keeping this private..." and so forth then there is something to go on.

Otherwise there is nothing.
Also the permanent Ban is a bit harsh.
I have seen far worst.
For example the deletion of other people's Whistle Blower Sub Forums.
(A little over a year ago)
Whistle Blowers left because of this...Two in particular that I have gotten to know.
That happened here and the vBulletin Logs proved WHO did it but, that person was not punished or anything.
These were what are called 'Hard Deletes'. Meaning they cannot be recovered.
You have go through and extra step in order to Hard Delete other wise it is a 'Soft Delete' and can be recovered.
Others were blamed for it and the Forum Logs do not lie...
The original Admin (Sean..who by the way set this ALL up on his dime in the beginning) and the 2nd 'Original Admin (Colin) both read those logs.
They know the person that did it but, that person was let off the hook.
I am purposely keeping the name of the person that did these hard deletes out of respect to the forum.
However, this person is very well known...

So I will ask again as to why is Carol being ignored?
Her points are valid and deserve attention.
Many may have not 'liked' Carol but, many members did like and appreciate her also.
She has worked very hard for this forum....
Most of you members have no idea how much time Carol put in here along with a few of the other Early original Moderators.
(I am not forgetting them....however they know that I always appreciated their hard work too)

To moderate is not about any kind of power. It is about responsibility.
It is about being above the fray and keeping your integrity intact.
It is not easy and mistakes happen. Admitting to those mistakes is what shows character and integrity.
We all make mistakes. I know I do and when I have to admit to the mistakes I have made it is not a comfortable feeling at all but, a rewarding one over all.

I truly mean no disrespect to anyone here or anyone on the Staff but, I have to in good conscious say what I believe in.
I strongly suggest to reconsider what has transpired here and do the 'Correct Thing'.Allow Francie Jones back on line here!

Thank you for your time!
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