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Originally Posted by Phtha

I'm pretty convinced myself that Alex is working for the PTW. Whether Alex knows that he is or not is the question.

I first watched Loose Change in January 2008 and that woke me up. Then I watched Endgame in February and I had to research a lot because I was unaware of most the references in the movie. During all that time I never really went to infowars and prisonplanet. I didn't feel I had to. Eventually, I started using infowars to get mainstream news already filtered of their entertainement content. I still do. Then this summer I listened to Jones' show for the first time. I felt sick to my stomach each time. Finally I realized that the show was not adding much to the mainstream articles gathered on the website. I don't recall reading a comment from anybody about how Alex Jones makes them fell good inside. I guess that says it all. Still I have to credit Endgame. On the other hand, I had quite a nice spiritual journey 10 years ago without delving into any conspiracy stuff, so it's not even necessary to know that stuff, yet...

Originally Posted by Myplanet2

For me, it's enough by now to know it's going on, and that yes, there are secret groups, and yes, they care more for the success of their various plots than they do the rest of earths inhabitants, and so what?

I have a good purpose though for knowing that stuff. It's useful sometimes in conversations for playful humor or philosophical remarks. I had a friend long ago who obviously knew all about secret societies. He was a very funny but mysterious man. He would never go into details about anything, just make strange and vague assumptions. I never suspected at that time how much he could know. For me he was just strange and vague. But how well he knew what he was doing! Many times during the last year, researching secret societies, I have found myself thinking "Oh that's what my friend was talking about!" He had patiently planted seeds in my mind.

Originally Posted by Humble Janitor

I think of him as similar to Michael Moore. Makes good points but overall, cannot be trusted to represent facts.

Right. That's why I only use his website to get mainstream news. As long as you're not looking for news about stuff he won't cover like a Jesuit becoming CEO of some corporation for example.

Originally Posted by Northern Boy

yes indeed that is a black hole that spirals on forever

Better take the white hole if one is going to spiral.

Thank you for your insights.