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Old 05-18-2009, 05:25 AM   #23
Anomaly
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Originally Posted by sun-toonŽ View Post
OK, Anomaly....thanks for all the info. For some reason I've pretty much ignored most of the Morgellans stories up until now. I read through a couple of the straightforward Morgellans sites, and I'm have serious doubts about the connection you're making here, but it's an interesting twist to say the least.
there is no 'twist' here. it's not a personal opinion. I'm taking facts and comprehensively comparing them in an analytic fashion, and peppering it with my own commentary on the logical conclusions that any rational individual would come to, after fully researching the subject at hand.

saying it's a 'twist' on the phenomena.. is like saying literally...
"he's trying to put a spin on it where it is exactly what it was 5000 years ago."
whereas kundalini awakening has a set of symptoms, and people experiencing those symptoms, who don't know what kundalini is, made up a new name for it, and someone saying that it is a 'twist' is like saying "oh that's clever how you actually are telling people what it originally was called before it was renamed"

it's like someone being 'curiously bemused' that someone would ever explain the common Dog, as a "Canis familiaris domesticus"

like they'd say "ooooh you've got an unusual spin on that 'Dog' concept there buddy.. heh.. well I don't know about THAT *chuckle*"


note: the people calling this thing the 1600's black-hairs on the back disease spell it 'morgellons' (not 'morgellans' with an 'a')
it's named after the area of France where it was reported: "Morgellons" which was at the time pronounced "Mor-jell-ee-ons" but is now pronounced "morg-el-ons" ("morg" as in a hard "G" as in "the morgue" where people go when they're dead.

I'm not picking on a typo.. we all have them, I'm just saying, if you were doing research on a subject and actually trying to really understand it, you need to know the proper spelling in order to properly search the web for relevant information.

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There would be a stronger case if anyone with Morgellans was actually awakening instead of just suffering. The worst of it is physicians and researchers calling the victims psychotic because they can't figure out what's wrong with them.

ok.. lets take a step back and look at what you're having a hard time understanding.

take the term AWAKENING as we're using it, a 'kundalini' awakening, as a spiritual awakening, resulting in a literal physiological change.

what do people usually relate a 'spiritual awakening' to?
We usually imagine: bliss, happiness, calmness, understanding, mental peace, tranquility, love, etc.. right? I mean in our current modality, we usually imagine this. We hear of people being 'born again' in church, or 'reaching enlightenment', or Brahma-Nirvana, illumination etc..

this is all good and well, under certain circumstances.

circumstances being, that you were expecting this new modality, this new frame of thought, and the resultant physiological changes within your body.
If, prior to your awakening, you wereFULLY informed and educated on ALL the physiological and mental/emotional changes that were to take place upon this enlightenment, this 'kundalini awakening' and were financially, mentally, emotionally and most importantly, physically prepared for the changes, then no doubt, with the help of educated and experienced gurus or spiritual leaders, you would find yourself walking that bumpy transformative road with considerably less trauma, confusion, and frustration, than you would have if you HADN'T been prepared on all of those levels.

If you were under full awareness of the physiological changes that occur in the later stages of the kundalini transformation, as written by the Hindu Saint, Sant Dyanashwari, then you would have not been surprised as your body took these major steps through the metamorphic process, as you went through them.

You'd have prepared yourself financially, taking some years off of work, knowing that through this transformation, you wouldn't be able to function at a profession that demanded a significant amount of cognitive effort, because you knew that during the transformation, there exists the physiological changes in the nervous system, and brain, resulting in unpredictable and frequent periods of 'nirvana' or 'thoughtlessness' or what is being termed through the 'morgellons' perception of this as 'brain-fog'.

This nirvana or thoughtlessness, is an actual goal of meditators and spiritual aspirants during deep meditation.

Yet when unexpectedly experienced unwantingly, during a high stress job situation, is interpreted as the complete opposite, an obstacle in your efforts of doing your job, and perceived as 'brain-fog', literally a complete 'blank moment' where you don't remember what you were just doing, and what you were about to do. No past, no future.. pure NOW

If an entirely new body was growing underneath the surface of your existing body, and the kundalini energy was flowing through your Nadi pathways, connecting your chakras, and you were entirely unaware of the knowledge of what this was, and by only being knowledgeable with the pathetic excuse for an education of the current western educational system, then there's a high likelihood that neither you or your doctors would have any realistic frame of reference to compare this change to, let alone, understand it.


So

Place Patient A in an environment where they are taken care of and helped by knowledgeable people who understand this, and inform the patient beforehand as to everything about this kundalini/christ energy, and they go through the physical growing pains smoothly, with the aid of the proper time tested ancient ointments like:
myrrh, (eucharist annointment oil known for it's anti-inflammitory effects) frankincense (known for it's calming effects) and rue, (known for it's anti-spasmotic effects, ceasing muscle spasms) ....
...and they go through the emotional/spiritual changes with as best aid and from other wise and compassionate leaders as possible.

BUT...

Place Patient B in an environment where they and everyone around them are completely uneducated in the matter, having ZERO knowledge of the metamorphic process at hand...

and you have a recipe for absolute physical, mental, emotional, and spiritual suffering.

zero medical help from skeptical and money-addicted doctors...
the vast majority of whom, will not even look at what's going on...
the select few who do look, completely unaware of kundalini transformation,
or if they are informed, it is to a very slight degree, based on modern new-agey rumors and descriptions of the modern commercially advertised superficial aspects of kundalini ie: "kundalini yoga" etc..
never going back into ancient scripture and understanding the actual PHYSICAL changes that occur in it's advanced stages.

so along with the recipe of absolute suffering...
...you also have the recipe for a potentially revolutionary expansion of awareness of an entire culture based on skepticism and greed.
IF the men at the TOP of the religious and medical organizations of the current modern world recognize the actuality of this stage of human evolution,

believe it or NOT...
there are 2 entirely different camps of understanding surrounding these specific "set of symptoms"...


understand.... that there are TWO groups of people in this world experiencing the exact same symptoms.

one group researches their symptoms at the onset, using say, google..
and by the luck of the draw comes across kundalini forums discussing how to get through the twitching, vibrations, magnetic and electrical sensations, psychological changes, chakra sensations.. , seeing light flashes, hearing buzzing and exacerbated tinnitus, skin changes, massive bodily detoxification as toxins are pushed out of the skin (black specs)

so they talk with people that know how to deal with it.. and they get through it with help from those people. gurus that are completely knowledgeable on kundalini awakenings... etc.. and they follow that path.

never once perceiving the "crawling sensations" as a parasite.
and therefore never once having the need or desire to reach for a microscope, to discover the fibers.
never once thinking it's a worm in their head, never once clawing their flesh away in a desperate attempt to relieve themselves of "whatever is in them"
taking the proper ancient remedies that relive the overstimulation, and itching.

now..
the other group by the un-luck of the draw of their search query string in a search engine, come across morgellons boards and join the thousands of people of the 'belief' of it's nightmarish depiction.. the horrid abominable perception of what it is. sucked in like a whirlwind vortex into desperation, malady and for many, death.
thinking the crawling is a worm... or parasite or bug.. clawing their skin away.. buying expensive microscopes to put their scabs and bodily fluids and waste under in order to somehow comprehend "what is in them"
thus all the sensationalized media focus on "the gooey bloody morgs" on youtube videos etc..

all a point of reference.. all based on INFORMATION.. all just two separate perceptions of the same phenomena.
one educated to a certain extent on the actuality of the phenomena...
the other completely ignorant of it.

both camps actually know very little of even the existence of one another.


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I don't doubt that this technology is out there or that it's being used, but it's not an explanation for the phenomena of channeling and it's nowhere near an explanation for Marciniak's Pleiadians...or the information they've presented.
if you had no idea of what sound-to-skull technology was...
and you heard voices in your head telling you they were from a distant planet, and they spoke in beautiful compassionate ways, about knowledge that was making sense to your current belief system, then how could you distinguish what you were experiencing as anything other than "channeling?"

if you were completely aware of sound-to-skull technology was..
and you began to hear voices in your head, there's a strong likelyhood that logic would point you to the conclusion that it's most likely sound-to-skull technology.

see... (the simplest answer is probably the correct answer).. Occam's razor... works, but only according to your current frame of reference, and understanding.
occams razor works based off of your currently available information.

this all goes part and parcel with knowing about kundalini before it happens to you.
if you don't know what kundalini is and it happens to you throghtraditional means or other methods... you're gonna go nuts and make up a name for it. it's just that simple.

i you know about sound-to-skull technology.. or telepathy.. and it happens to you.. then you're cool.
if you DONT know what those are... then you're a crazy person that "hears voices"
(the voices tell me to do bad things mommy) etc...

OR .. you're a channeller.

sound-to-skull technology IS channeling.
channeling IS sound -to -skull.
you could call it sound-to-skull channeling for that matter.
anyone channeling comprehensive information to someone else's brain, would use sound-to-skull technology, or an equivalent method that communicates decipherable language directly to one's brain.

imagine an entire civilization that uses the advanced biological evolutionary technology of their brains to communicate telepathically...
do they even have a need for the term "chanelling"? it's the same thing as them talking to one another.

so the real question is :
was it a human governmental agency using that technology to channel information to her?
or was it extraterrestrial (possibly human extraterrestrial) individuals using that technology to channel information to her?

either way.. the information she was given in 92, is happening in people's bodies and minds NOW and has been since around 2001, when an old name for a disease in the 1600's that was described as huge black hairs coming out of sick coughing children's backs was put on the changing bodies of current people.

Marciniak reported filaments on and in the body transforming the body physically as the spirit developed within, to a higher level of consciousness, accompanied with tiny nan-shapes that worked with the fibers.

you see the exact same thing happening 10 years after she was given the information.

whether it was earthly humans or extraterrestrial humans that gave her the information doesn't really matter when you think about it..

it's the fact that she began to present the concept to people so that when it happened.. (NOW) .. people would have a FRAME OF REFERENCE at least, to begin to understand it.

do your research and you find that not only are there fibers and nano-shapes... and "new nerves" like she says..
but the people also experience all of these very unique set of symptoms found nowhere else, except for the kundalini awakening symptoms, which correspond with the nadi nervous system and the chakras.

Whether Barbara Marciniak agrees with what's presented in that video or not, is irrelevant. Isn't the whole point of channeling information, to be as UNBIASED and UNOPINIONATED as possible? I mean that's what discerns the actuality of whether it's CHANNELLED or not right??? whether it's coming from someone outside of you, or if it's coming from your OWN mind, and opinions.

so her opinion on the matter is irrelevant.

if we ARE to take the stance that the information that WE received THROUGH HER .. FROM someone ELSE... as cannon... as complete truth..

...then we know what to look for when looking for the signs of 2012 DNA shift right?
we know to look for instances where people report filaments ON and IN their skin, accompanied by tiny shapes.
we know to look for signs of spiritual changes that have to do with the chakras and nadis, and a new nervous system..
this is what the information says.

so when we see those thigns... filaments on and IN people's skin.... tiny shapes in and on their skin..
and all of the age -old symptoms of chakra openings, kundalini spiritual awakenings...

we see all those thing sin what's uglyishly labelled as 'morgellons' ... we see all those things..
but somehow we cannot .. for the life of us.. see that that's exactly what she described it as.

we're somehow supposed to wait until ANOTHER situation arises.. where people experience filaments on and in their skin, tiny nano-shapes in and on their skin, spiritual awakening symptoms...
we're supposed to wait for another manefestation of that that is some how the same but presented in a way that somehow is easier for use to identify it as such?

could someone please explain to me how Marciniak's information about the signs of the change... would be presented to us in a way that is in any way different than what we're seeing in 'morgellons' ??? I mean go for it.. get imaginative.. just don't deviate from what the Marciniak information says.

we're supposed to wait for something identical to morgellons.. but somehow.. prettier...? .... I don't get it.

It's in front of our freaking faces.



anyway...

when you wake up out of a long sleep, some people feel refreshed.
when you wake up out of a long sleep abruptly...
some people are VERY GROGGY..

a spiritual awakening is not all flowery and blissful 100% of the time...
especially when you live in a world where this type of thing is not taken seriously
and the LITERAL physical transformation involved, spoken of i Hindu religious scripture is UNHEARD of in the west.

now .. on the fibers.. whether these are produced by the body to PERFORM the change, or accumulated from the environment from chemtrail spraying, or BOTH, i don't know.. more study needs to go into this.

maybe since we are passing through the galactic plane approaching 2012, we encounter more and more of this material in space, and as we discover this, we are led to believe the opposite, that it is being purposefully sprayed on us, as part of an evil plan, completely reversing our perspective on it in the first place?
someone else trying to take responsibility, or make us suspect they are perpetrating it, so that the truth of the phenomena and it's origin is completely obscured based on our initial conclusions we are presented with to form our collective basis of thought on it as?
there's that "photon belt" theory, that we pass through a certain mass of substance or energy at 2012, that changes our DNA..
you think that process is going to be pretty?
if it is real, then you think the mainstream news is going to present you happily with all the facts, just like they happily present you with all the 'facts' about UFOs, alien presence, origin of mankind, etc?
Or are you going to be presented with a scary and confusing prospect, so that you have only that information to use in your pondering of the subject?
Or your current understanding of the subject is only biased by mainstream thought, OR grassroots 'research' on the subject?

New-Age ideas about the DNA shift are there. It's a centerpiece of the whole ascendancy concept.
you think it's going to be pretty?
maybe it would be if we actually understood the change before it started to happen.

is what a caterpillar turning into a butterfly "pretty" while in a cocoon?
is a tadpole with consciousness who's growing legs and loosing it's tail looked upon as a monster by fellow tadpoles who have not begun the transformation process yet?
do hypothetically conscious 'tadpoles' worship frogs, and have no idea that they're going to one day turn into one?

if the new age culture actually honestly believes in their heart that human beings will ascend into a new level of consciousness, of perception, then they have to consider the fact that with new consciousness, and perception, there needs to exist the literal biological technology behind obtaining that perception.

we use our eyes to see, our ears to hear, our skin to touch our brain to perceive these sensations of what we can understand as reality.

to literally SEE MORE, we need new eyes, to HEAR MORE we need enhanced ears, same goes with skin, nerves, and the core of our perception, the brain.
it's not going to magically happen with the current 'hardware' we have in these human bodies.
I'm not talking about man-made borg-like 'band-aid' primitive clumsy "additional prosthetic cyborg enhancements"... sure those ideas have arisen due to our imagination and technological prowess, and discussed at length in scientific reports and modern entertainment, so we "get the idea"...
...but there already lies within us the latent potential of biological technology that allows us to perceive the absolute.
This is 'kundalini technology' this is the 'krystos', the unlocking of the what, 90% of DNA that our current public is told that is 'latent' or 'inactive' ? this insultingly labeled 'junk' DNA?

you think that the truth about that DNA is supposedly going to be released to the public just like all of Tesla's technology was? just like all that recovered UFO technology was?

if you understand predictive programming, and understand why specific Hollywood productions hint at or blatantly present before you, what's really happening, in works of what we call 'fiction'.. then question why the modern mythology of super heroes is so commonly shoved into our collective consciousness.

would one presume that people with unlocked DNA, who have passed fully through the transformative process, the metamorphosis into the "REAL ADULT" version of the human body (as opposed to it's NYMPH stage = our current bodies) ..
would one presume that those who have achieved this, would be only capable of feats that we can currently achieve, be they athletic, mental, spiritual?

One can only imagine what Jesus or Krishna or Mohammad or Buddha were actually capable of.

Yogis speak of kundalini awakening in it's fullest sense, as granting abilities like pure communication ie: telepathy.. (speaking in tongues)
telekinesis - moving inanimate objects with one's mind.
levitation - defying gravity as Jesus did while walking on water, or Dyanashwari and his brothers did as they levitated a stone wall.
healing the sick.. as Jesus did,(possibly through some nervous-system harmonization of biological energies that harmonize with the sick person's cells promoting their cells to re-align into a modality of their rightful operation, as opposed to their misaligned "sickly" malfunctioning operation.

I'm not accusatory in the powers that be repressing this information, in that they desire people to remain in suffering for eternity.
I'm more of the thought that in order for us to experience this change, we have to personally understand it on our own level, through our own research, through grassroots communication and exchange of learning about it.

What I mean is that, like with anything that is personally experienced to it's fullest extent, in order to derive the most rich meaning from the process, one has to experience it for themselves, an not be force fed a dish of pre-perscribed and possibly agenda-biased info about the most important information you'd ever know.

governments can discover and allocate all such information, but the method of it's dissemination, is through personal challenge and personal discovery.. not hand-fed baby-spooning.
It's not something you get to hold your parents hand through.

It's tough and ugly and lonely, and rough with suffering, and that's what makes the end result so rewarding.

This is not to psychotically say "oooh yeaah suffering is GOOOOD .. you neeed it to experience happy flowery blisss"
This is to say that there IS going to be suffering during a paradigm shift such as this, and it needs to be expected, especially when there is so little understanding on the common level about it.

The suffering related to what's currently being termed 'morgellons' is 99.9% caused by other people.
The philosopher Sartre once wrote that "Hell is other people"
This is quite literally the profound truth considering this situation.

The majority of suffering involved in this is emotional hurt, sadness and absolute depression, mental confusion, anguish and frustration, directly caused by other people who do not understand the situation.
Family members, friends, spouses, all viewing the sufferer's behavior in their reaction to what they're going through as neurotic, delusional and paranoid... generally falling into a "mentally ill psychosis" conclusion.
This leads these people into isolation, relationship dissolution, joblessness.. (yes even before this economic meltdown hit.)
And I'm not talking about your average "relationship breakup" type thing that happens to millions of people daily.
I'm talking about long term relationships falling apart, fathers and mothers completely disassociating themselves from the sufferer.
Life long friends that these people have grown up with and spent almost every day of their life with....backing away and leaving their friendship.


COMPLETE SUFFERING... all based on what?

INFORMATION. (or lack thereof)

so compounding the spiritual and emotional changes that are taking place, the deep seeded emotions from past trauma, rising to the surface from this kundalini process, the muscle-memory of physical injury rising and circulating once again before it leaves...
on top of that.. you have not aid by your fellow man...
but complete neglect and punishment.

But enough time has gone by, enough suffering has been experienced.
People are killing themselves by the hundreds because of lack of truthful information on the subject.
All of the information out there on the subject that's been circulating is abhorrent, grisly and nightmarish, and for one suffering through it, that information obviously amplifies the psychological perception of the phenomena into that which one can only imagine as absolutely unbearable.

If an entire species is to go through this transformation, then there is going to be a select few who are part of a 'first wave' of this.
Their experience will be like no others, because they are met with ignorance, suppression, skepticism of the highest degree, and worst of all...

NEGLECT.

I would think, if we are of right mind and heart, that once we begin to understand all of this, it's connection to religion, it's ultimate manifestation, that we begin to aid in it's occurrence, instead of lethargically pass it by as some strange thing that we don't know much about, even though it has exact parallels to everything we've been hoping to see happen to us.

How can we, as loving individuals who hope for our ascendance out of this confusing and dark world full of suffering and inequity, how can we, as people that want this to happen, let this go on, watching the first of our kind go through the changing process, and ignorantly squabble about it, while they die?

Our species is changing, and we look at it like a disease, and we look at it as crazy people.

If you began to change, and the mental effects during it caused you to not be able to work, would you want others that know about it to help you?

If you began to change and the physical symptoms caused you to have so much pain and anguish that you couldn't deal with even daily chores, would you not want people to understand and help you through it, instead of just seeing you on TV crying out for help?

put yourself in their shoes.. the first among us changing...

and we waste idle time while we could be putting together funding, and facilities for them to go to...and hiring the most knowledgeable on the subject to be with them 24/7 during their change.

I for one am going to put my time and energy into making such a thing exist.
I hope you join me.

As loving spiritual people, we do not just watch our own kind suffer on television, being thankful of the fact that "that's not me".

we should see them with kind eyes and think " if that WERE me".. I would want someone to help me.

and modern medicine has completely proven 100% for almost an entire DECADE now.. that they are completely incompetent in aiding these people.

so we no longer have that crutch of thinking where we can say "well it just needs to be studied more, it's ok we can wait"...
I'm sorry but that is just not acceptable.
Especially for those who are going through the most horrible thing imaginable: changing into a higher level of human, without knowing that's what's happening, and without anybody helping them in any way let alone.. the proper way.

Imagine what the world would be like for us if they fully changed.
Imagine how they could improve the world for those who haven't changed.
Imagine how they could help US to change.

If we want them to help us when we change, we had better start helping them change first.

I wouldn't want to be on the butt-end of a ******-off evolved human who was mocked and laughed at while they changed, while friends of theirs that were changing died around them... while nobody helped.

You think an enlightened being might not feel wrath for injustice and inequity around them?

I don't know about that. Do enlightened transformed humans just sit in the middle of a battlefield ...invulnerable to death, and just watch everything happen around them? all the torture and suffering?

Or do they take action and correct what they see around them?

I'd be wary about where you sit when these people fully change.

Did you help them when they were crying out for help?


This is not to sway a bunch of blind believers into thinking "oo yeaaa we're gonna have super humans around us so we better be nice to them or they will hurt us"

This is to understand the very real nature of human transformation, and the coming explosion of what we've termed as 'supernatural phenomena' on the horizon.

This is the meat of the matter many of us have been waiting for.

If you look forward to the ascensionary DNA change and higher consciousness and all that is written in ancient scripture about what we're posed to change into... then understand the literal and actual reality of it, what to look for as signs of it's manifestation in order to recognize it, get past your disbelief, and discern how you can be of help, because if not out of mutual compassion in helping, then out of self interest, because you'll want the help if and when you go through it.

I recommend the former... mutual compassion. but that's just me.. I'm weird like that. :P

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