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Originally Posted by dagon
why change nature? I think it knows best. I say meditate .. pray.. but I don't see changing mother nature cycles for us, unruly, selfish, micro fascia. as the right thing to do. I welcome it. let nature run its corse.
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I agree that nature does know best.
In light of our relationship (or lack thereof) with the earth we live on, maybe a good scrubbing is what's needed. Reset button, so to speak. On a plane, as you approach a city - what does it look like in comparison with the rest of the world? Cancer, right? Rather than honoring the relationship we have to the planet, we've exploited it in ways that line the pockets of the rich and create additional mechanisms of control. So much for free will, huh? We've gone astray in embracing philosophies that divide. We fight over resources and land that none of us should have any claim to. We exploit others for financial gain. And what the hell is
financial gain anyways? As a people, we put corporate gains over the sanctity of human life. We justify greed with excuses of division and who is more worthy of resources. The sickness that has infected man has been allowed to run amuck for long enough.
The prevalent vibe on this planet is not a healthy one. It's due for a scrubbing, I think. And that statement is not coming from a place of heartless contempt for humankind, but an observation of
what is and an understanding that death (as defined in 3d) is illusory and doesn't deserve to be fueled by my fear, or anyone else's. I'm still wide open to the idea of a mass awakening, but I'm not overly optimistic about it. Not when I see the same attachment to
stuff, religion, status, race, ad nauseam.
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Originally Posted by eXchanger
i once did a water initiation with a shaman from south africia,
and, many decades ago, did one, in asia
and, i also did one on a volcanic island in hawaii
and, i also did one in mexico/and, in south america
its an amasing thing to do !!!
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Huh? Not sure how this plays into the conversation.
Maybe you're more apt to survive an ocean relocating to your back yard than others because of your water initiations?
Sorry. But I don't get it.