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Do you mean like they will introduce us to grays and the bad version of reptilians from all the different 16 varieties?

Another bad day...another new guess story - one more for the archive?

I do not know....this is not going anywhere....

It would be extremely illogical for the western butchers to make a disclosure. There is simply no sense in it. Unless Obama is a...not what he appears to be and dragons still live deep in mountain caves, guarding their treasures until one the their broods will surface again to rain terror over the humble kingdoms of man. Who will save us all?

The hero may start with extra points in dexterity (ads bonus to dodge and damage to all pierce weapons).

Also all this cross-wind information from all the "insiders" is getting really boring really fast. Like some inconceivable civilization would really need some benign form of our government to agree for them to show up. It is all stupid. They do not need that...either good or bad...or to stop with the "duality" either whatever they are or choose to be.

If they are...like some say...waiting for us to "get it", so that they will be "allowed" or to say "invited" to show up, than they should just pack up and leave. They can come back after several millennial rotations of our sun. It should pass quickly to them...since time is said to be non-linear.

About us being damaged if they do show up? How much damage can they do? Look at us...we are damaged more than enough as it is.

Also I find it humorous at why our bankers and industrial giants do not just run ass over with some of their corporate doctrines. It is not like that would be a hard thing to do. To subjugate a human animal with their power is a child's game. Thy can do it at any given moment but it seems they like it as it is.

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If they do not do that because there is "hope"... like...do not give up Laladin son of Luladin - there is always hope...well than the "interference" is most likely earth based - another fraction trying to cut in on the deal.

I once talked with a former secret operative (like CIA, KGB...) but from our country. He was not very talkative but he did mention some things about him being in Italy (neighboring country) and what the assignment was. It was so ...so very...so very...incredibly...IDIOTIC....but is seems that is what they do (among other things). The plays behind the curtains are all but what gets out in the public.

Look at the China...do you want it as a new superpower? Do you want someone else to play the role of monopolist on a global chessboard? Sure they killed much less people in past decades...but that is since the current right to wage war belongs to the USA. Just look what they do to their people when they try to express the difference of an opinion - now scale that to the global level when/if they take over the right to wage war - against the humble man of the planet Lullaby in the Nut-Case Galaxy.

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So the final point is - there is no spoon. The focus of attention is all wrong and the time is being wasted.

And in the mean time...u are getting ass f*** by the government and you have to take it even if you do not enjoy it...since most others do...and it has absolutely nothing to do with ET or anything like that.

Whatever ET -now,past,future- will do it will be done on their terms, not ours. So do not waste the time writing your congressman. Much more other things come to mind when it comes dealing with the politicians (it involves a sledgehammer and some swinging)

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Update 12/4/09

Number of mother ships parked near Earth = 9,943

Number of the mother ships that are supply ships = 5,612

Number of craft parked in the mother ships = 5,933,221

Number of species of ETs currently involved = 71

Number of total ETs aboard all of these ships = 66,312,232

Number of Species of ETs that the Pasarions say will eventually be involved = 71

Wow, just over 1000 more mother ships in the last 2 days. I think that is the most drastic increase in the mother ships in a two day time frame yet. The number of species involved still at 71. I guess that they where setting up for the first couple of months and now they are bringing in all that they need to accomplish what they came here to do.

My speculation based off of this data is that they are going to upgrade our civilization to the level it would be at if the inventions of all of those on Earth had not been horded away and kept secret. I think that this may be the way that they can help us without violating the "Prime Directive". If all they did was hand us what earthlings had already invented then this would not be an infringement on our free will.

The infringement on our free will is actually being perpetrated by the PTB. They would actually be preventing our free will from being infringed upon any further. I doubt you will find a single person on the planet that would not like to have the liberating technology instantly proliferated across the planet that was invented right here on Earth, can you?

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Only Bruce I can think of is Bruce Lipton try to do a google on that and this man is fantastic and even if he was not the one, you will not regret tuning him in

Good Luck

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Do you count the supposed reverse engineered technology into this or only the technology thought up by the human monkey brain?

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Our "monkey" brains work pretty good. I do not remember hearing any stories about the nuclear weapon being reverse engineered from off world sources. I remember hearing Greer state that Tesla had invented both free energy and also anti gravity tech about 100 years ago. That is long before Roswell. Not saying that some of our tech today did not come from rev. engineering of downed craft. However, there have been multiple people who have independently invented free energy technology and did not have the guts of a UFO to derive the tech from. If it is floating around in the collective consciousness then anyone can figure it out.

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In one of PC interviews it was said that this is not the case. That the knowledge was long present in some ancient documents fr...amm ehh just another contradiction...one among the many.

I do not know...time will tell...or not.

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Anyone can say anything

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Update 12/6/09

Number of mother ships parked near Earth = 10,153

Number of the mother ships that are supply ships = 5,763

Number of craft parked in the mother ships = 6,127,973

Number of species of ETs currently involved = 71

Number of total ETs aboard all of these ships = 67,622,524

Number of Species of ETs that the Pasarions say will eventually be involved = 71

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Nice Pilotsimone! I like the update you made :thumb_yello:

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Does anyone think that Tesla got most of his 'inventions' from the Vatican Library? He had access as a youth...and had a near photographic memory...if I am not mistaken. Could Tesla have opened a Pandora's Box...which led to Tunguska, the Nazi-Vatican cooperation, World War I, World War II, Curious George, Paperclip, Roswell, Muroc, the CIA, the MIAC, etc, etc?

I'm thinking that we all came to Earth on a UFO (Nibiru perhaps?)...rather than climbing out of the sludge...and that all of the fancy technology was brought to Earth in that ancient voyage from the stars (Pleiades? Aldebaran? Sirius?).

It seems to me that the current UFO buildup (if the reports are true) are all about whether we are going to live under Tyranny, Theocracy, or Namaste Constitutional Responsible Freedom. But what do I know?

The last scene in part 4 of 'V' is very appropriate for this thread! See it on abc.com. http://abc.go.com/watch/v/240273/242...-the-beginning

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One thing I have discovered in my research on the topic of the visitors is that never before has a Creator Son in any universe ever incarnated on a planet prior to Majestic Son Incarnations. I found this somewhere in the Urantia Book. This is why there is so much interest in Planet Earth. Many worlds have ascended prior to earth but this is the first ascension where the creator son (in this case Jesus) has incarnated first. I guess were kinda unique in this respect.

There could be a good business selling Soda and Popcorn up there huh? Anyway. On with the show :)

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Jesus studies could go in a lot of different directions at this point...but the actual words attributed to Jesus (regardless of the real source) should be taken very seriously. I'm presently thinking that Jesus was a renegade god. The Jewish system may have been the best thing going at the time...but it was still as corrupt as hell...and Jesus tried to clean things up...and got himself murdered. It seems that we are presently dealing with Zionism and Teutonic Zionism...both in cahoots with Interdimensional Reptilians. The Jesus/Andromedan faction is opposed to all three groups...and hopefully all of the ET's who are showing up are here to perform a Solar System Exorcism. I have no idea if this is true...but I'm strongly leaning in this direction.

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Tesla stated very clearly that he was in communication with extra dimensional entities. This is one of the things that lead to his exile.

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I am concerned that these comments and reports rather detract than contribute to the impending mass loss of freedom on a global scale by political means.

I refer, in particular to the possible signing in Copenhagen of a treaty to which we, the common population, have had no or little opportunity to inspect or consider. This seems likely to be but a small step to grant a legal platform for what has already been eroded from the Global Population and is perhaps a precursor to a much grander implementation of Global Enslavement.

The possibility of a false flag ET/Alien disclosure is high, but not likely just yet IMO. If ETs are real, benevolent and gathering in our Solar System, I would ask why have they waited so long to intervene if it is agreed that that is their likely intent?

If they are working or seek to work with the current world leaders, would not their motives be questionable? I have no idea about this and I am open to your perspective on this. I refer in particular to what appears to be widespread political corruption such as is partially evident in previous posts on this thread.

I do not question, am in no position to question, nor wish to question the sincerity of these previous posts.

Information is thrust upon me from all sides seeking my consideration and demanding preeminence often obscuring the most critical or actionable morsels of datum. I (and I think you) have the dubious task of filtering what is significant from what is not.

I definitely think something is brewing out there, but at the moment, doesn't it seem more likely to be Copenhagen, rather than the far side of Mars and Saturn?

The media push (in my corner of the globe at least) to pressure politicians to sign up to an unknown agreement with global implications based on questionable science seems to me to be a betrayal of honest journalism (at the very least). Instead of an uproar of protest, there seems to be a sigh of resignation.

Love to get your insights, comments...

Kind regards, nodrog.

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So if Tesla had the high-up connections...than...again I ask...all technology or monkey brain tech? I am "afraid" that using monkey tech there might even be regression.

The problem is no one can say what it true or not. What it here to distract us, or what is hear to "fear" us. What this makes is some general "paranoia".

I do like what G.G said once: gain all knowledge

That might be practically impossible but still to let to philosophy aside....it never hurts to know and to "study" the information IF all the prejudice and personal "believes" can be put aside. Since if they are not - there is even more trouble than before.

Why they have waited and what is keeping them? This question has more question that answers. No one knows.

I agree, if they tend to work with our leaders - one can one have a laugh at that thought - for whatever reason.

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The ET races being referenced have spiritual development that is in parallel to their technological development. They understand very clearly that the majority of souls that are currently incarnated into a person on the planet Earth have come here to learn through the karmic lessons of adversity.

The victim mentality would lead people to believe that we are all under attack from the negative elites and what not. The reality is that most of us chose to come here specifically because it was a rough place to be. The more adversity you encounter the more likely it is that you will evolve spiritually.

If the ETs stepped in to "SAVE" us from our own karmic lessons, then many here would fail to complete learning the things they came here to learn. This is why beings of more spiritually advanced societies are not allowed to interfere here. Even the handful of ET species that have interacted on a "negative" level have been allowed to be here as a result of the karmic lessons that some came here to learn.

This begs the question, "Why are the spiritually advanced species going to show up now?". We are coming to the end of the version of reality where these karmic lessons are still useful to us. The evolution of consciousness is pushing us, whether we are ready for it or not, towards a higher state of consciousness and spiritual understanding.

There are those that have been part of the adversity side of the cosmic school here on Earth that do not want to let go and allow things to progress the way they are supposed to. These forces are supposed to evolve with us and transform. However, some of them are so grounded in material power and greed that they are failing to do so. As a result they are quickly going from being a useful catalyst for the evolution of our souls to becoming an infringement on the free will of our souls.

Therefore, the ET's are now going to be able to show up because they will actually be working with the spiritual laws of the universe instead of against it. Which is what they would have been doing if they had shown up to early.

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The brain has nothing to do with the level of consciousness that a person exhibits. The brain is just the interface between our material selves and the higher versions of ourselves that operate from higher dimensions of consciousness.

The level of intelligence of an individual is directly proportional to the frequency that they allow themselves to resonate at. Information streams in from our higher selves through through the subtle energy fields and then into our antenna for this information that we call the brain. Tesla just happened to have a very crisp unveiled connection to this hyperdimensional stream of information than the common person did.

It is very difficult if not impossible to believe that this is the reality to things until you have gone out of body and had the advantage of finding out what it is like to be conscious without the material brain interface. Once you do this it becomes very clear that the brain is not where the mind is located.

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Interesting answer.

Thx

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Update 12/7/09

Number of mother ships parked near Earth = 11,321

Number of the mother ships that are supply ships = 5,823

Number of craft parked in the mother ships = 7,144,243

Number of species of ETs currently involved = 71

Number of total ETs aboard all of these ships = 81,312,427

Number of Species of ETs that the Pasarions say will eventually be involved = 71

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Since forums are now free, this will be my first post with which I must say that this thread is very inspiring and I hope only the best comes out of this. Thanks tone3jaguar, and all the other who participated.

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Big jump in the total number of ETs for the day!

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What, in my heart, I have not yet determined is why so many other beautiful innocent creatures of God on this planet are to suffer as a consequence humans' learning.

While I feel that we have an opportunity, before moving, on to address and undo negative karma we may acquire when causing these animals, birds, oceanic creatures, etc. to suffer, they are nonetheless in my heart as equally important to the Creator as humans and are to be treated by us equally. What is in this for them? Why is the predominant/subjective focus on OUR destiny?

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I believe the Law of One materials states that souls that incarnate as animals are here to work on their evolution and growth as well. Therefore, adversity is part of the experience as a catalyst.

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here here.

First class post Tone3

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I do feel a little disquieted by this response. I accept your belief as simply that - your belief. However, the karmic answer avoids responsibility for the suffering of others when perhaps it might be in our power to relieve it. In our own history, this has been used to justify the misfortunes of others as simply the "way things are" or "God's will" which might be another, equally convenient avoidance. ET's are restricted by whom? Some form of government? A common belief in universal karma? Is this the prevailing ET faith?

Perhaps you view my comments as primitive or childish, but my understanding does not easily embrace information that is not first hand. My limited perceptions rarely if ever go beyond the five senses.

I consider the biblical story of the Samaritan (moral: lend assistance to others if it is in your power to do so) to be ethically superior to the idea that one is to allow another's suffering to persist for the sake of their karma. Do I walk away when I see someone who has been mugged because I might disrupt their chosen karma? I find the affirmative to be somewhat difficult to justify to myself.

If I have overstated your position here then you have my apologies in advance, but perhaps you could enlighten me further?

Simply put, I would have little respect for an ET civilization that avoids or prohibits the principles embraced by the term "love your neighbor".

Kind regards, nodrog.

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Has anybody actually seen any of these 7.3 million ships? Are there any reports of amateur star gazers who have (accidently) spotted a mothership? And what are these 81 million ET's doing all day & night? Playing galactic poker & backgammon? Making love with each other? Where do these 71 different species come from? What do they look like? Questions, questions questions...

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Not exactly star gazers, but the explanation that these where "mysterious weather phenomena" does not hold any weight with me.



These ET's are 4th dimensional. You can only see them when they choose to let you see them.

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well said :thumb_yello:

Also~
:welcomeani: back!
nodrog
love your probing and insightful mind :lol3:

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Erin - I am with you. Humans are not top of the evolutionary heap, as we can't even interpret our environment with our bodies, as other creatures do.

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me too!!

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Which is why, I feel, it's going to be difficult for you two to understand each other's perspectives. You are both looking at the same topic from completely different ends of the spectrum.

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Me too :)

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Agreed, but seeing things differently makes communication interesting.

:original:

Kind regards, nodrog.

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Actually we can, however the paradigms that are set into our core beliefs when young prevent most of us from ever discovering just how clear and strong our instincts are. The animals do not have better instincts, they just do not know any better.

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The Salusa channeled info is interesting to listen to. Just like all channeled info, you must use your discernment. No such thing as 100% accurate channeled info. Nevertheless, I have been listening to these Salusa Channelings because they seem to be congruent with the dowsing data. This one explains why the details of what will happen are being held back from me and others in conscious contact.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mt8dYf0c1-s

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Here we go, explain this one away. This has got to be the coolest thing ever caught on camera and it was on the Nightly News!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! Totally f---ing awesome!!!!!!!!

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qKL0Z5TDZ0o

Update, 12/10/09

Number of mother ships parked near Earth = 13,454

Number of the mother ships that are supply ships = 7,212

Number of craft parked in the mother ships = 9,126,223

Number of species of ETs currently involved = 71

Number of total ETs aboard all of these ships = 93,214,723

Number of Species of ETs that the Pasarions say will eventually be involved = 71

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here is a similar craft from Russia back in January

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=v2icG...eature=related

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Looks like another failed rocket launch to me. Plume, stage separation at about 12 seconds, next stage is bad and goes out of control in spiral fashion. The plume looks very much like the videos I remember of many NASA launches and is typical of what the second stage looked like. The stage separation is also very typical of stage separations in these videos. The spinning could be due to any number of factors, but probably involves the control system sending the rocket nozzle hard over to one side because of a sensor or actuator failure. Like balancing a broom stick vertically in your hand, once it gets a little bit too far off to one side, there is no recovery.

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Ok so im confused what is this spiral thing a rocket or something else