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Westboro Baptist Church Protests, Gets Protested Outside Twitter

Jan 29th 2010 By Harmon Leon
Asylum Exclusive


Yesterday, the Westboro Baptist Church and their subtly named picket group, God Hates Fags, brought their dog-and-pony show to San Francisco. That's right -- the freaky people came to freak out the freaky people.

The religious group, based in Topeka, Kan., usually pickets soldiers' funerals, reasoning that they died defending a gay-loving country. Thursday, they set their sights on a larger target: the headquarters of the social media giant Twitter.

Apparently, God hates Twitter. Would it help matters if Jesus turned 140 characters into 280 characters?

At 4:30 p.m., surrounded by a police escort, the motley WBC crew -- comprised of four women and one large, clunky dude -- marched in front of the Twitter offices at 795 Folsom and kicked off the circus. But San Francisco's finest and funniest, who launched a counter-protest, were ready for them.



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The best way to counter the ignoramuses of the WBC is to not even pay attention to them.

Though there's nothing wrong with counter-protesting in a funny way.

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I watched some documentaries about WBC and I wondered as everyone:
"Why do these people do what they do? Why do they outlaw themselves?"

And finally I got it! I think, they want to be hated by the people as our lord was hated by the Jews, especially the Sanhedrins and Pharisees.

I think, that they think, only by suffering as much as Christ and being out-casted by their environment they can reach heaven.
I think they deeply believe that.

And the anti-Fag thing is perhaps a reaction to the aggressive ideology of homosexuality. To force that on young students isn't right either.

And at the end we all have freedom of speech!
As one can't be pregnant only a bit, you can't have only a bit of freedom of speech. All or nothing.

Or as Voltaire said:
"I may condemn WHAT you say, but I would die for your right to say it!"

:king:

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Sounds about right. I'm pretty sure that's what Phelps' grandaughters espouse here, though I was too fascinated by their giggling at the idea of dead soldiers to pay full attention to the full dialogue.


:nono:

That's what they say when publicly asked, but to me, it seems they are simply desperate to stay out of "hell".

Indeed, either it's all fair game, or none of it is. As they say, it's not the popular speech that's in need of protection. To some extent I'm glad groups like the wbc are allowed to do what they do, just to have some insight into what makes them tick, which is fascinatingly puzzling to me. Also it let's them blow off some steam, hopefully releasing some pressure from the crazy tank.

I do enjoy seeing them defeated cleverly again and again.

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:lol3:

The contrast of facial expressions is priceless.

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No one is forcing it onto anyone. People are simply seeking acceptance of who they are, much like African Americans, Women and Native Americans have for decades.

It is pathetic that in our world, it is still ok to bash, beat and harass gays.

The WBC is in the wrong and nothing you or anyone else says will change that.

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Thanks HJ I musta misread that somehow when I read KL's post before.

@KL

What is the "aggressive ideology of homosexuality" and how is it being forced on young students?

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I can't believe people still have such opinions on a site like this.

So much for being open-minded, eh? Might as well go march with the WBC.

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No question, the WBC people are nutty, but even they've the freedom of speech!

And of course it's forced onto students!
Gay activists try to make it part of the curriculum in school, that a child also can have a mom and a mom, or a dad and a dad!
And that's simply disgusting! To try to indoctrinate children with such abomination! Only people who are homosexuals themselves can apologize such disgusting behaviour!

And it's obvious that there's no other group in society that is so extroverted like the gay community and who wants to influence politics and wants to smash their private sexual orientation in other people's face!!!

And this isn't comparable to the African Americans.
Or why do you think the AAs opted against special rights for gays?



GOD created Adam and Eve - and not Adam and Steve!


:king:

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To be open-minded, does not mean to betray one's own principles!
In my opinion and many other's, it's simply wrong.

And we have the right of our OWN opinion and to speak it out openly!
Or do you want to bring all opions into line, like in the USSR?
Is that your definition of "open-minded"?


Again I've to remind of what Voltaire said:
"I disapprove of what you say, but I will defend to the death your right to say it."

Everyone who doesn't agree to that, has never understood democracy nor freedom of speech.



:king:

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I'm also surprised to see that kind of attitude here too, apparently an open mind has nothing to do with homophobia. Did you know that homophobia actually comes from a fear of ones own "latent" homosexual desires and tendencies? Homophobes have issues of their own they hasn't dealt with, meaning sometime in the past they've probably had sexual urges towards men that scared the hell out of them.

My mother has her phd in psychology and specialized in sex therapy, so I grew up learning all about this stuff...just like anything else these attitudes are stemmed in ignorance. It's sad that people feel it's right to treat people who are different in such an UNCHRISTIAN manner. But such hypocrisy is seen commonly amongst hard core christians, the same christians that would probably have Jesus arrested or put in a loony bin if he walked the Earth today. It's really sad to see how people have lost their humanity...

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King Lear, you have a lot of learning to do before the asteroid hits. It's sad to have to tell you this, but your posts are revealing much more about yourself than I think you are aware of.

It would be good to heal that broken part of yourself, now that it's being pointed out to you, right?

Otherwise, leave your gay bashing out of this thread. "Aggressive ideology." Did you realize how ignorant that sounded as you were typing it? Or have you realized it yet?

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Aggressive ideology???


May i ask, do you believe gay people "force"their sexuality on young students?

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These people are sick people , I am a biker and a vet, I was at a soldiers funeral last year as were many bikers standing shoulder to shoulder for a deceased army private who was killed in the line of duty . We created a tunnel of american flags for them to pass thru with the hearst . In the background were these life forms shouting many vulger words out . We couldn't do anything to these people physically so we took the next step and that was starting up about a dozen motorcycles and pointed all exhausts in there direction. Didn't take them long to leave and find some fresch air.

These people are doing the devils work here on earth, may god have mercy on their souls in the afterlife, there gonna need it.

Past it...
 

From what I have seen, the Westboro group is desperate for
attention, and will go to any lengths to get it.

The anti-protesters in those pictues seem to be doing a pretty
good job of holding a mirror up to the absurdity of their behavior.

People are people, and there are many layers to each person-
sexuality being one of them.

Sexuality by nature is a continuum. There are people at both
ends of it, and everywhere in between.

It is much easier to find reasons to judge and disapprove of those
we do not understand than find ways to accept them as they are.

How many people project their feelings-positive and negative-onto
others? It happens more often that most would care to admit.

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What is the "aggressive ideology of homosexuality" and how is it being forced on young students?[/QUOTE]


What I have been told by my niece is that her school (seventh grade) taught that it was very cool to be gay or bi. She said the girls were all encouraged by the lesbian teacher to get a girlfriend to be gay with. When I explained to her what is really meant to be a lesbian she was disgusted. I told her that that means she is not gay and not to let ANYONE talk her into it.

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^ Are you serious? Her school taught that it was very cool to be gay or bi. Not "her teacher taught her," even, but her school. First of all, you can't teach anyone to be gay. I want to laugh, but the absurdity that someone thinks this actually just makes me sad. Second of all, 12 year olds have a tendency to misinterpret things that adults say from time to time, so she may very well be distorting some facts. Third of all, even if this teacher is some kind of delinquent or disinfo agent, this is ONE person, so what possesses you to automatically equate this with "all gay people try forcing people to be gay?" And lastly, no one can be "talked into" being gay.

I say this so that you can rest, and assuage your fears, because obviously you are fearful of something you don't understand, i.e. homosexuality, and because I love you as a brother or sister, I want you to heal that part of yourself... gay-ness is not an accessory you pick up at the department store. And it's not something you can pin on someone's lapel, either. The only way any human can be "forced" to become gay would be by becoming victim of an electroshock brainwashing program, and if that IS the case with your niece's school, you should be concerned that they are trying to submit her to electroshock brainwashing at ALL, not simply at the direction they are brainwashing her in.

Oh she's not being kidnapped and subjected to waterboarding and other tactics? Yeah, that means she's not being forced to be gay, and no one is trying to make her gay.

There's a lot more homophobia than I expected to find, here, at a forum that claims to be open-minded and prepared to enter the next world, or whatever new agey claims are made by many people these days. It's funny to me, though. I like a good show. Oh yeah, to those of you that subscribe to the "aggressive ideology" claim, you might want to watch this Louis CK video. It's funny, and it will help you to heal that broken part of yourselves:



I'm a heterosexual male, by the way, in a serious relationship with the same woman for over 3 years now. I have no agenda, other than waking people up, because polarity consciousness isn't making it into the next world, fortunately.

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First of all nobody opted against "special rights" for gay people, it was against equal rights, like the ability to visit and make decisions for your significant other in the hospital in an emergency among others.

Secondly, the situation is actually quite similar to the civil rights movement. A group of minorities simply asking for the same rights afforded to every other citizen outside of themselves......sounds pretty similar to me?

Thirdly, I assume you're refering to the CA prop 8 issue when stating "AAs opted against...", yes, some support came for African American in that specific referendum, which when remembering the civil rights movement, makes for some real irony, but that was certainly not a national referendum, so to make blanket statements about an entire race of people is amiss imho.

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@Church: Brilliant post mate :thumb_yello:.

I love Louis, just started a thread here recently with another of his bits, and that's a great bit too, plenty blue :lol3:, but certainly appropriate in this thread.

Watch out for the Gaythering Storm btw!





@KL and MargueriteBee:

I was wondering what your views on 'choosing' to be gay are. Do you think it's a choice?

If so, i.e; people choose their sexual orientaion, can you remember 'choosing' to be heterosexual?

For me it was never a choice, I just knew I liked the ladies (from a very young age :lol3:), and I know that nothing anybody might say could 'turn' me gay. Do you think it's possible to be 'turned' gay? And with all the discrimination, who would make that choice?

If it's a choice for some and not for everyone, what's the difference?

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It's really funny, apologists of homosexuality always bring on this old story:
"if you're homophobe you're a crypto-homo...blah di blah di blah"

And then the next stereotype:
"My mother has a PHD... I'm so highly educated... that's why I am a better person and have so high moral standards... blah di blah di blah"


Can't you guys be a bit more innovative for God's sake?



I myself graduated from university, but never would I consider me to be a better person just because of that!
I know many people who are only highschool graduates and despite that they're much more intelligent as any moron with a PHD, they've something which these loons never can get - natural intelligence!
And these people also have much more healthier moral standards,
nothing out of textbooks!

And this isn't related to any religious fundamentalism, just a gut feeling.

And I know, you know-it-alls, you mr. smarty pants hate their guts!
Because deep inside yourself, you know that these plain people are RIGHT!


And another thing:
Me and many others aren't "homophobe"!
Because we don't FEAR Homos!

We're just disgusted by their behaviour.
There's no group on this earth, like the gays,
who constantly smear their private sexual orientation in people's face.
Publicly!

And try to influence little school children with their PRIVATE sexual orientation.

Have you ever seen a heterosexual wearing a t-shirt with "Hetero pride" written on it?
Or a man who's whining: "if you prohibit me to marry this woman I'll go to the Supreme Court and sue you for discrimination!"
Or a Hetero-parade where you can see Heteros doing a blow job publicly on one of the parade's wagons?


Understand one thing you shrink-brains:
Most people don't hate nor fear Homos,
they're just disgusted by their impertinent behaviour!
And people get annoyed by that.




And to speak that out is not closed-minded, discrimination nor hate,
it's just the simple practrice of our constitutional right, called FREEDOM OF SPEECH!

And everyone who doesn't accept that is a fascistic opinon-bolshevist




P.S. No one can prevent that nut-groups like the WBC hijack this issue, but still it is an issue!



:king:

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I didn't say they were being forced but I think people can be brain washed into thinking they are gay....

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Yes Celine.
If Gay organisations try to make homosexuality part of school's curriculum,
I call that forcing! Especially if it's for pre-adolescent students.


I couldn't care less what Gays do or don't, if they wouldn't force it constantly on others with the concentrated power of the MSM and Hollywood.
Why can't they handle their sexual orientation as all the others do - privately?

And that I call aggressiveness.
There's an agenda, an agenda to change the traditional family fundamently.
And that will cause the death of our society!
Look where our birth rates are, they're almost at a point where they're irreversible, i.e. our whole culture will die out.




And now to all gays:
Be so much gay as you want, but do it as the Heteros do, do it privately!

Anything different to that is fascisto-bolshevistic, they also wanted to "build the new man" and it led into catastrophe!


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It's very strange that we hear of such "isolated cases" nationwide.
And of course it's hard "to talk someone into" being gay,
but that's not the main goal, the main goal is to break up the traditional family and moral standards.

:king:

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It is not just being gay that the school promoted, it was having sex period. In 5th grade she was taught that it is okay to have sex, that it is her right. So she went and lost her cherry at age 11, at school, during school hours, in the boys bathroom.

Little children believe what the grownups tell them, they are gullible and that is why the crap is being taught at such a young age. Those girls in the video and have been brain washed in a major way.

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I surely disapprove what they do to the dead soldiers
and I am glad that there are people like you who defend the relatives of such disgusting behaviour!
I salute you! Semper Fidelis
And thank you for your service, which really grants us our freedom of speech!





But that all fits in the theory:
That they want to be hated, that it's part of their crazy religious fundamentalism.






But another thing is also shocking:
All these "open-minded" esoterics here, who are fundamental liberals in reality,
wouldn't give a rat's ass if the WBC wouldn't also promote this fag-thing!

They deeply hate the WBC, only because they attack their dear homosexuals, or their own sexual orientation.

And everyone who disagrees, they call a "hater" and not "open-minded".
"does that (he) belong in this forum?"
As the Bolshevists called everyone who disagreed a "Bourgois" and "reactionist" and "capitalist" and then "silenced" them too.

That's the main issue for these fascistoid liberal-esoteric-bolshevists. All the other stuff doesn't really interest them.
If the WBC wouldn't do that, they would never heard of them, i.e. be interested in them.




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That's certainly only an "isolated case" as the liberal-"esoterics" here would say! ;)




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I don't think it is an isolated case:

http://www.foxnews.com/story/0,2933,52098,00.html

http://www.newswithviews.com/public_...c_schools1.htm

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That's certainly only propaganda of the "haters" who don't belong in this "open-minded" forum;) :roll1::roll1::roll1:
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wow, i am compleatly astounded at the way this has gone........:mfr_omg:
my kids know about sex, and they are 4 and 7, they know about transexuals, homosexuality, and the fact that their bodies are their own, good grief, is there any hope for humanity with these attitudes i have just been reading?
where is your compassion?
love?
nonjudgement?
for heavens sake......do you want to assend or not?
m x
ps......homosexual relationships happens in most species, go look it up

golly they even know what a chromosone is

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/ours.buzznet.com/user/video/2496221/music-video-premiere-ours-god/

all children of god....

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jonah that was truely beautifull, thank you sooooo much
love
m x

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Perhaps it happens in most species, but only in a part of thousandth, i.e. it isn't the norm, otherwise the species would be extinct!

And what astounds me is, that your 4 and 7 year-olds know of homosexuality and transsexuality. Woman have you no decency?
How can you burden children's minds with something like that?!?

All these homosexual-apologists!
What is next?
In 10 years pedophiles say that it is normal and part of the "diverse" human sexuality to be a pedophile. And then they come and make pressure on politics to be emancipated.

And what will you homosexual-apologists say then?
"That's disgusting!"???
Betcha
But then the pedos will say "Oh you're just a hater" "You discriminate us!" "It is fact that our bodies our own!" "Where is your compassion?"

And before some of you homosexuals and homosexual-apologists scream out after this analogy:
"Hey that's not fair! You compare us to pedophiles!"

think twice, because in this analogy the pedos would say the same:

"Hey that's not fair! You compare us to necrophiles!"

It's only a step further... and further... and further...

Everything made to destroy our traditions, families and our society.


:king:

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On account of that, I just pushed the Report button. You should wash your mouth with rose water, buster. (It tastes like soap.)

It's offensive. Like Morguana said, check genetics etc. Bye. Wait, your pedophile facts are incorrect, too, male sexual violence is usually 'heterosexual.'

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king lear we live in a multi cultral society, and that means that we mix with all sorts, i do not judge a person by their differences, if none is harmed and all involved are concenting adults then what is the problem? i think a course in learning humility and love would be of benifit.

this post just says it all in my eyes, *sadly shakes head* i would like it left for all to see,

m

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What has "the multi cultural society" to do with the promotion of the aggressive homosexual ideology, especially on kids?
Blacks and Mexicans disapprove this agenda even more than Whites!

I could say the same to you orthodox Liberal!

You're such hypocrites! "Open-minded" my foot!
Everyone who isn't in line you ban!

And you always think that you are the better person.
Not sensing how self-righteous you're in fact!

For everyone who doesn't believe that people in the Project Avalon Forum
are so narrow-minded and behave like TPTB, which they alledgedly try to expose, will soon be disabused by my ban!

:king:

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Yeah, me too, but don't forget that it's only a small, though very vocal minority here that seems to be in opposition to equality, which is the real issue as I see it.

@King Lear: I noticed you haven't responded to anything I've said here or answered my questions, though I am not surprised as the answers are likey to find you either hypocritical or simply ignorant.

Dude......where to begin? You've said so musch, I'll just review a few examples here.

Wow, now were apologists? :lol3: I'm not apologizing for anything here guy, just standing up for equal rights for all, which, clearly, you oppose.

Ummm are you serious, is this really your agument? No one is preventing men and women from getting married.... this makes no sense, although if for some crazy reason that were the case, I'm positive that heterosexuals would want equal rights as well.

Ok, so let me get this straight, your argument here is that gay people should change their lifestyle because you think they're icky? You know you don't have to think about the sex constantly right? :lol3:

Dude I think people who go to night clubs all spiffed up with leather jackets and crusty hair are icky, but I don't care what they do as long as they're not hurting anyone, I just steer clear of them, still wishing the best for 'em though.

I think it's strange that you've got all this respect for the equality in the freedom of speech yet you you have no sense of equality when it comes to accepting people for who they are.

Ok, this next part is the heart of the issue as I see it, and you didn't respond, so I'll quote myself here.

This is it, right here. It's not "special rights", it's equal, get it?

Letting gay people get married does not take any rights away from anyone else nor would it give them any rights not afforded to heterosexual couples.

You say this in jest, but it's really spot on. Those stories are ridiculous.

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There has been no reason for a ban King Lear...
Allowance of an open minded discussion shall be had... with respect to all who participate...

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Wow, your logic seems to be malfunctioning. I don't think I can continue to converse, so I'll leave you with a song. Peace.

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Yes so small that you have to ban this "minority", so this forum can stay "open-minded" ;)

No. You totally misunderstood me. I don't bother what homosexuals do.
But I'm annoyed, as so many others, by the gay political activists who make an ideology and an issue of identity of their sexual orientation.
Especially that they make the poltical fuzz, they produce, to their identity makes me sick.

But the main issue still is, that they want to force it onto children!

I certainly don't oppose equal rights, BUT i oppose uber-equality, special rights for certain groups, that some are more equal than others.
Read Orwell's Animal Farm.

I'm sorry for you, that you aren't able to understand this hypothetical example. It just was an example for homosexuals who are always whining and always pushing things which make no sense after all, just for being "equal"!
And at the end the only goal they reach is to devaluate marriage.
And through that destroy the traditional family.

Are you sure that they don't hurt anyone?
Besides religious feelings (which are so important when it is for the Muslims)
What about the developement of a child?
Are you absolutely sure that they don't get harmed by all of this?
For example, to see how gays behave on their parades and in the media?
Are you really sure?

You're totally wrong.
1st of all, why do you think, that "freedom of speech" is our 1st amendment?
2ndly I can't remember that gays were in chains and had to pick off cotton.
Is it equality or special rights?

:king:

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Of course you can't continue to converse and understand my arguments!
Because you fundamentally oppose me and you're unable to hold up a mirror to yourself.


As it is the problem for all self-righteous homosexual-apoligists and "open-minded" orthodox Liberal esoterics.
That's the way your brains are constructed, you can never understand an opposing or different opinion about that!

It's the same with theists and atheist, different brain developement.
And I don't mean that as a ranking, they're simply differently configured.

:king:

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Thanks for that Jonah!

But I think your attempt won't be successful.
Because there are too much people here who hate what I say.

Veritas odium paret
"Truth creates hatred"

I've a too loose tongue;)

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