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Highwhistler 12-10-2009 09:55 AM

Building underground safe rooms

Hello Friends,

I will be building a green home, above ground,
but I want a few rooms in it to be underground
or backed up against a natural rock formation
into which rooms can be "bored."

Do any of you know the suggested specs for
building underground rooms that protect
from the type of solar activity and pole
shifts as discussed on Project Camelot?

For instance: Is adequate protection gained
from significant solar mass ejection in rooms
with 1 foot of rock overhead? Or is it 3 feet?
10 feet? Or is it much more than that?

I have found websites that discuss underground
homes and that have photos as well, but I've not
found a site that discusses the engineering of
rooms and homes that are designed with
solar mass ejections in mind.

In advance: thank you for your response, links,
information and advice.


Spregovori 12-10-2009 10:27 AM

Re: Building underground safe rooms
My guess is that several thousands of dollars and some experts should solve your problem. This money should be no problem to you, especially if you intend to invest in constructing such an object.

Highwhistler 12-10-2009 10:50 AM

Re: Building underground safe rooms

Yes -- Thank you Spregovori.
I will hire knowledgeable builders
and architects to do the job.

What I am looking for now are
links to websites and people who
know the specs for building homes
and safe rooms underground that
have solar mass ejections in mind

There are, for sure, many sites with
good info about building homes that
are underground, but they do not
mention the specifications for building
rooms and homes that are made to
safely carry a family through the
types of solar mass ejections
that are talked about on PC.

Thanks again.



utopiandreamer 12-10-2009 12:45 PM

Re: Building underground safe rooms
Hello ,

Although i have done something similar , after hours and hours of research , there is no need to be afraid !

All that we are witnessing is planned , nothing will happen in 2012 it is a HOAX , like Global Warning , Moon Landing etc ... made by the Elites to control the masses and keep us looking the other way while they achieve or set their NWO !

Of course , i can not say that what i am telling you is 100% accurate , but i can safely say that i am 80% sure !

I will transform my bunker to a Motel , and probably i will invite avalonian's when i finish it some day ( no more in a hurry ) !

artvision 12-10-2009 04:00 PM

Re: Building underground safe rooms

Originally Posted by Highwhistler (Post 196618)
Hello Friends,

Do any of you know the suggested specs for
building underground rooms that protect
from the type of solar activity and pole
shifts as discussed on Project Camelot?


People in the know say only deep down in a cave, will suffice.
I do not know what say about construction.

You can bore in the rock but just is good to capped on top with reinforced concrete in a solid layer.

But the protection of natural cave you cannot beat it!

Fredkc 12-10-2009 07:44 PM

Re: Building underground safe rooms
If you haven't heard of him, there is a guy you might want to look up/into by the name of Michael Reynolds. He is an architech of some 40 years experience, who has spent his life developing one of the most self-sustainable systems I've seen.

Yes, a "dreamer" but with his feet on the ground, and all of his stuff is real world tested. There is a website at: EarthShip.net . And there is an Image gallery here. There is an interesting video about, concerning his work, and you can see much of it on YouTube. Simply Google the title: Garbage Warrior.

There are even "Demonstration houses" which you can rent for a nite, or several, and there is even one in Phoenix. He is based out of Taos, NM.

What made me think of him is that one of his primary construction styles, has to do with building up against, and into hillsides, including homes partially underground. All of his plans have the ability to include:
  • Completely independent water systems, both potable and sewage
  • Heating and cooling systems,
  • Indoor/outdoor gardens
  • List is endless
I'll quit because I'm starting to sound like a commercial, and I don't get a dime for it, either; but I did notice, on his site, that he does consult. And with that...

Some pics to dress up the post:





Carmen 12-10-2009 08:03 PM

Re: Building underground safe rooms
Have you heard of John Haitt and his Pahs system. This stands for passive annual heat storage. I reckon this system is one of the best. Its very simple and low imput. No heating necessary! As far as protection from solar flares/radiation goes, four foot of earth sheilding or is it concrete then four foot of earth? Not sure, but certainly underground!



Highwhistler 12-11-2009 01:03 PM

Re: Building underground safe rooms

Thank you Carmen, Fredkc, Artvision
and Utopiandreamer,

I love EarthShips and will certainly weave their
brightest and most fluid design ideas into mine.

I can’t find good info on "John Hiatt" and his
Pahs system – but your brief intro sounds good.

Four feet of earth shielding, rock or concrete c
an be easily done, it seems.

Again: Thank you, All.

Please remember this topic and in the near future
if you run across great information about creating
safe rooms to protect from solar mass ejections
and similar natural events, please post your
new info and leaks here.

In peace …

.................................................. ............................

Underground at Damanhur:




orthodoxymoron 12-11-2009 05:34 PM

Re: Building underground safe rooms
If the excrement really hits the air-conditioning system...there may be no place to hide. If one survived the initial solar mass ejections, monster tidal-waves, 500 kph winds, nukes, neutron-bombs, pole-shift, tectonic-plate shifts, chemical and biological warfare, 'alien invasion', 'second coming of Christ', total anarchy, etc, etc...death might seem sweet compared to being enslaved in a Post Armageddon New World Order Demonic Theocracy. I realize this is probably a worst-case scenario...but it is a possibility which should not be ignored.

I'm not saying that people should not look for safe-places and not build shallow underground civilian bases (SUCB)...but no one should be too smug and self-satisfied. Even the elites might not be safe in the DUMB's. The elites could be the first to go in a total enslavement of Earth. They know too much...and their services would no longer be required at that point.

artvision 12-11-2009 06:26 PM

Re: Building underground safe rooms

Originally Posted by orthodoxymoron (Post 197699)
The elites could be the first to go in a total enslavement of Earth. They know too much...and their services would no longer be required at that point.

Very wise observation! They are just tools, dispensable tools!

For Highwhistler, be advised that in case of Corona Mass Ejection, the EMP pulse will not affect humans (unless you have a Peacemaker inside). For that, is enough the shelter you have be caged with chicken-wire connected to earth, then came over an isolator layer (waterglass or something electric and thermic isolator ) then follows another cage made of aluminum foil (second barrier for RF wave and EMP pulse) and they say safe also for scalar waves :original:

So you work on thickness of upper cap layer for absorption, very important for accelerated flux of protons, neutrons and other particles coming from cosmos, while for Faraday caging, for nullifying the electromagnetic radiation.

For the radiation, you must be concerned for gamma spectrum, most dangerous, which is same rule as for the nuclear fallout radiation (you can find those thickness of layer per different materials . Look here:

at the PAGE 14, there is a discussion about materials thickness and gamma levels.

Thus we address the concerns for the Gamma nuclear radiation and EMP electromagnetic pulse. For the Beta (electron or pozitron will be absorbed by aluminium foil) and alfa radiatiation will be very reduced even by atmospheric air, then by by the thickness of shelter material and will not be concerned at all.

This is the reason I indicated to dig into stone and then increase the thickness with the reinforced concrete over it. Then inside you will wallpaper in one layer of insulation (fiber glass) then chicken-wire, connected to a good grounding, then another 1 inch or more fiberglas, then a layer of aluminium foil (for beta and psi waves), on all the contour of the room and also grounded. Also the access door should be metallic and grounded with flexible cables (meshed silvered cables) So you will have two Faraday cages one inside other, each is efficient for different wavelength, different charged particles.

And not all the shelter must be constructed such, just one room, the most deep in the ground or the hill rock and you can refuge there in case of need. Just to have inside bunker room enough food water and toiletry for few days at least as the EMP flare pass.

Swanny 12-12-2009 10:51 AM

Re: Building underground safe rooms
You can run but you can't hide :thumb_yello:

Highwhistler 12-12-2009 12:56 PM

Re: Building underground safe rooms

Thank you Artvision for the good info.


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