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Fredkc 03-12-2010 01:42 PM

CERN Collider 'down for a year'
Ok.. I am telling you this story, so's I can tell you the next one!
So... Stay tuned

Large Hadron Collider ‘to shut down for a year’

The Large Hadron Collider, the world's biggest atom smasher, will shut down for a year to repair mistakes that were made in its construction.

By Ben Leach
Published: 9:17AM GMT 10 Mar 2010

Faults in its construction will delay the large hadron collider reaching its full potential for two years Photo: PA Dr Steve Myers, a director of the European Organization for Nuclear Research (CERN), which built the collider, said the machine will close at the end of a 2011.

The collider is expected to reach world record power later this month at 7 trillion electron volts (TeV) in its bid to replicate the big bang that started the universe.

Large Hadron Collider fires up
Try switching it off, and then on again But Dr Myers told the BBC that the faults will delay the machine reaching its full potential of 14TeV for two years.

"It's something that, with a lot more resources and with a lot more manpower and quality control, possibly could have been avoided but I have difficulty in thinking that this is something that was a design error," he said.

"The standard phrase is that the LHC is its own prototype. We are pushing technologies towards their limits."

"You don't hear about the thousands or hundreds of thousands of other areas that have gone incredibly well.

"With a machine like the LHC, you only build one and you only build it once."

It is the latest in a series of setbacks for the world's largest machine, which was first launched in September 2008 amid an international fanfare.

But just nine days later, the £5bn LHC suffered a spectacular failure from a bad electrical connection.

Fifty-three of 1,624 large superconducting magnets - some of them 50 feet long - were damaged and had to be replaced.

Then in November 2009, it emerged that further problems had been caused by a small piece of baguette dropped by a passing bird which landed in a piece of equipment on the surface above the accelerator ring.

Here is where it gets interesting....er


Could the Large Hadron Collider
be held back by its own future?


The much-delayed and maligned Large Hadron Collider has been hit by its most outlandish claim to date - it is being sabotaged by its own future.

Forget the far-fetched belief that it will create a black hole, two distinguished physicists have gone even further claiming nature itself is stopping the troubled £4.4billion project from getting off the ground.

In a theory reminiscent of the time travelling film Back to the Future, the theoretical physicists Holger Nielsen, from Denmark, and Masao Ninomiya, from Japan, have concluded that its discoveries could be so "abhorrent to nature" that they are coming back to stop their own creation.

They have outlined their thoughts in a series of papers with titles like “Test of Effect From Future in Large Hadron Collider: a Proposal” and “Search for Future Influence From LHC.”

The pair's hypothesis centres around the Higgs Boson, a mysterious tiny particle and building block of life that it is hoped the LHC will discover.

They have come up with a theory that it will "ripple backward through time" and stop the collider before it could make one, like a time traveler who goes back in time to kill his grandfather.

"It must be our prediction that all Higgs producing machines shall have bad luck,” Dr. Nielsen said.

micjer 03-12-2010 01:47 PM

Re: CERN Collider 'down for a year'
Something is keeping this thing from operating that is for sure. That is a good thing imo.:thumb_yello:

Fredkc 03-12-2010 01:53 PM

Re: CERN Collider 'down for a year'
Further frivolity from

Professor Otto Rössler Takes On The LHC

Seven Reasons for Demanding an LHC Safety Conference

1) Black holes cannot evaporate because their horizon is effectively infinitely far away in spacetime according to my new interpretation of the Schwarzschild metric [1].

2) Black holes are effectively uncharged [1]. Therefore, charged elementary particles cannot at the same time be black holes (or point-shaped). Hence non-point-shaped mini objects exist already. This makes mini black holes much more likely.

3) Mini black holes grow exponentially rather than linearly inside the earth: “mini-quasar principle” [2]. Hence the time needed by a resident mini black hole to eat the earth is maximally shortened – perhaps down to “50 months”. This contrasts with the “50 million Years” obtained assuming linear growth by BBC Horizon [3] and CERN’s analogous “5 billion years” [4].

4) CERN [4, 5] counters that if the hoped-for mini black holes are stable as claimed [1], equal stable particles must arise naturally by ultra-fast cosmic-ray protons colliding with planet bound protons. This is correct. However, there remains a fundamental difference: Only the man-made ones are “symmetrically generated” and hence dangerous. For they alone are slow enough with respect to the earth that one of them (at less than 11 km/sec) can take residence – in contrast to the almost luminal speeds of their natural cousins.

The rest available here.


Lastly an observation and a comment from another forum:

"Then in November 2009, it emerged that further problems had been caused by a small piece of baguette dropped by a passing bird which landed in a piece of equipment on the surface above the accelerator ring."

Only in France could this happen, original excuse though http://www.timebomb2000.com/forums/biggrin.gif
Then again could be Russian-trained pigeon saboteur......
Fred, still waiting for his 1st cup of coffee

micjer 03-12-2010 02:07 PM

Re: CERN Collider 'down for a year'
I just can't figure why normal people would want to play around with this pandora's box. Careful what you wish for...you might just get it.


mntruthseeker 03-12-2010 02:27 PM

Re: CERN Collider 'down for a year'
Wonderful news

First thing that went through my mind was Its so good to be loved

We certainly have the forces working with us

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