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morguana 03-11-2010 05:50 PM

Re: Questions?
 
folk i edited it because i felt what i wrote was not helpfull, and i do not like to name and shame anyone, no matter what anyone has done, just my way of being. mp2 needed to cool off and i feel that some here could do with chilling too. so when mp2 is out of the mists and in the land of sun once again, he can answere your questions. im sorry if folk dont like this, but i believe in treading with love and care, and not hurting others whilst i walk this path.

we have a saying in uk
let sleeping dogs lay

might be a good time to try this out

love m x

Céline 03-11-2010 06:14 PM

Re: Questions?
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by morguana (Post 254398)
folk i edited it because i felt what i wrote was not helpfull, and i do not like to name and shame anyone, no matter what anyone has done, just my way of being. mp2 needed to cool off and i feel that some here could do with chilling too. so when mp2 is out of the mists and in the land of sun once again, he can answere your questions. im sorry if folk dont like this, but i believe in treading with love and care, and not hurting others whilst i walk this path.

we have a saying in uk
let sleeping dogs lay

might be a good time to try this out

love m x

I was named and shamed... why do i not get the same courtesy?

Linda 03-11-2010 06:25 PM

Re: Questions?
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by BROOK (Post 254200)
After reading all of the linked post....I'm again hearing yet another one that wants to slam another thread....and suppress. And do it based on a post that is again riddled with many assumptions and generalizations. both of which are based on what experience?

Coming from a member that was a Mod..and also a member of the social group that is quote from abraxis....
a 'Secret Society'...and I'm guessing asked at some point as was the creator of this thread...one that claims no support of the Thuban material..but yet is a standing member of it's social group and invited by the following ....

"Should you like to join the 'Inner Thuban Circle', now situated in every 3D human merkabah as the root-reduced 12D Outer Space transmission as an Inner Space transmission; then go to profile-social groups-spiritual-Thuban."


Again, another quote. Now isn't that enticing....
join a group so you can get the real transmission...
and get all that secret knowledge...
that no one else has.....
sounds like a cult to me...

and also a way to open a door to let in something that apparently can only access if you open to it.
sounds demonic..

but what do I know...I'm still here...clueless in California




Sounds demonic?

Sounds like a cult?

You certainly DON'T sound like you are clueless to me.

Linda 03-11-2010 06:31 PM

Re: Questions?
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by BROOK (Post 254325)
I believe he was one of the few mods that do not belong to the "secret society" in the council of Thuban social group.....and I see two of the mods have since removed themselves. and to be fair and balanced, there were 5 mods in that group.....so I'm guessing that Richard may have had to act on his own...
again just guessing...
I make no assumptions other the to show that there may have been an imbalance there....clueless I am, but the sun is shining here in California...time for a good game of golf...."fore"
:wink2:

Now this is very interesting information.
Thanks.

Oliver 03-11-2010 06:36 PM

Re: Questions?
 
From the latest Bob Dean`s interview for Camelot:

Get rid of the fear.
You have nothing to fear.
You are an immortal timeless being,
who has an infinite future in a glorious Universe
that is so filled with beauty and light
that we on this little tiny blue planet couldn’t begin to grasp.
I say to people: Don’t be afraid, for God` s sake.
Get around those you love.
Spread that love around.
And go into tomorrow with courage.
Because you’ve been through a hell lot worse before.
So, be hopeful, love one another and have courage.

And that’s really all I have to say.

mudra 03-11-2010 07:59 PM

Re: Questions?
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Lionhawk (Post 253984)
It would say "Banned" on his avatar if this was so. I also hope we don't have another forum funeral for someone who has crossed over some severe lines like the last one you were friends with. Confuses the hell out of me when someone who is supposed to be the Avalon Spiritual Mother, acts in support of so called friends that have caused some serious damage to folks on any level. Nothing personal but I just couldn't help notice something out of whack with that picture.

One situation is not equal to the other Lionhawk . I won't go back to the previous one as I made a point to turn that page over after understanding the viewpoints of all the people concerned. I took a stand then for my friend but if you go back to that thread you 'll see I took a stand for the well being of the community too .
Now in this situation I will just repeat that a brother was prepared to take great risks for the sake of finding the truth behind a ban . Not as a defenser of Abrax but only for the sake of having the facts exposed in the open. For this I respect him .
The way he played his cards are his own responsability .He is paying the price for it.
And if it was you Lionhawk who in this case would had made that search for truth I would have stand in respect for you too.

peace
mudra

SteveX 03-11-2010 09:04 PM

Re: Questions?
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Linda (Post 254437)
Sounds demonic?

Sounds like a cult?

You certainly DON'T sound like you are clueless to me.

Sounds barkin to me but I ain't clueless.

Anchor 03-11-2010 09:56 PM

Re: Questions?
 
The drama has left the building - all that is left is the innuendo and gossip.

AJ..

Linda 03-11-2010 09:59 PM

Re: Questions?
 
Because there has been no explainations?

Anchor 03-11-2010 10:03 PM

Re: Questions?
 
So what, that will probably happen in time. Harping on about it wont hurry the process.

Human damage has been done here - healing takes time. We can help or we can hinder.

Does it help to know that GaiaLove created that group in the first place? No! Except it probably ruins Brook's argument.

AJ..

K626 03-11-2010 10:40 PM

Re: Questions?
 
What group?

Reunite 03-11-2010 10:52 PM

Re: Questions?
 
Does anyone remember MP2's post about Lionhawk's avatar that has 2 faces?

Wow I just saw it, look closely at the chest.

Looks like a demons face.

Anyone else?

SteveX 03-11-2010 10:58 PM

Re: Questions?
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by K626 (Post 254607)
What group?

You remember the Thuban Q&A got closed then put back up the first time... right? When it was put back Abrax was ALSO given a group so those that were offended by the Thuban Q&A didn't have to be.

This group is the one you ask about.

Except Brook is Quoting from friends messages.... of all things:shocked:

EDIT Fixed error in discribing events....sorry bout that http://www.freesmileys.org/smileys/smiley-think001.gif

K626 03-11-2010 11:02 PM

Re: Questions?
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by SteveX (Post 254615)
You remember the Thuban Q&A got closed then put back as a read only right? When it was put back Abrax was given a group so those that were offended by the Thuban Q&A didn't have to be.

This group is the one you ask about.

Got it.

Cheers fella. :original:

I would guess that clarification from GLove and some Q&A and then the closing of this thread would be the best way forward. But hey....I'm just an impartial observer. :smoke:

Love

K Labs.

mudra 03-11-2010 11:59 PM

Re: Questions?
 


So you speak to me of sadness
And the coming of the winter
Fear that is within you now
It seems to never end
And the dreams that have escaped you
And the hope that youve forgotten
You tell me that you need me now
You want to be my friend

And you wonder where were going
Wheres the rhyme and wheres the reason
And its you cannot accept
It is here we must begin
To seek the wisdom of the children
And the graceful way of flowers in the wind

For the children and the flowers
Are my sisters and my brothers
Their laughter and their loveliness
Could clear a cloudy day

Like the music of the mountains
And the colours of the rainbow
Theyre a promise of the future
And a blessing for today
Though the cities start to crumble
And the towers fall around us
The sun is slowly fading
And its colder than the sea

It is written from the desert
To the mountains they shall lead us
By the hand and by the heart
They will comfort you and me
In their innocence and trusting
They will teach us to be free

For the children and the flowers
Are my sisters and my brothers
Their laughter and their loveliness
Could clear a cloudy day

And the song that I am singing
Is a prayer to non believers
Come and stand beside us
We can find a better way

Words and music by John Denver


A tribute to you all wether in the Mysts or here.
Stay strong in your heart.
One Love

mudra

Céline 03-12-2010 12:06 AM

Re: Questions?
 
Naguib Mahfouz:

You can tell whether a man is clever by his answers. You can tell whether a man is wise by his questions.


http://thestartingfive.net/wp-conten...2/question.jpg


You know what would be great? if this thread got back to topic..

Questions anyone?

mudra 03-12-2010 12:18 AM

Re: Questions?
 
I would like to know beyond our dissonances, divergences, differences , dislikes ....
What is it that we do love and appreciate amongst each other and in each other ?
When I look at everyone I know I could speak both ways.
But concentrating on the good points feels much better for this is where I know I truly love you .
That is the strongest point of all and the message from my heart.

Love Always :wub2:
mudra

SteveX 03-12-2010 01:04 AM

Re: Questions?
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by mudra (Post 254660)
When I look at everyone I know I could speak both ways.

I do both appropriately --> http://www.freesmileys.org/smileys/smiley-finger007.gif

Perhaps it's for the observer to discern if I'm wise or clever or...niether.

PilotSimone 03-12-2010 01:12 AM

Re: Questions?
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Reunite (Post 254612)
Does anyone remember MP2's post about Lionhawk's avatar that has 2 faces?

Wow I just saw it, look closely at the chest.

Looks like a demons face.

Anyone else?

I see a gentle old man with his eyes closed. :lol3:

I guess we see what we want to see, huh? :winksmiley02:

mudra 03-12-2010 01:29 AM

Re: Questions?
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by SteveX (Post 254682)
I do both appropriately --> http://www.freesmileys.org/smileys/smiley-finger007.gif

Perhaps it's for the observer to discern if I'm wise or clever or...niether.

Doing both appropriately keeps the world harmoniously in balance.
I think you are clever and wise Steve ;)

Love from me
mudra

Reunite 03-12-2010 01:36 AM

Re: Questions?
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by PilotSimone (Post 254685)
I guess we see what we want to see, huh? :winksmiley02:

True.

At first I thought I saw Boober's face then squinted and saw 9/11 smoke

http://projectavalon.net/forum/showthread.php?t=8763

ellie 03-12-2010 02:07 AM

Re: Questions?
 
Yes, I do have a question.

Where is one of my favourite ladies Burgundia, is everything okay or have I missed something.:wub2:

Edit: Mmmh, everyone must be nigh nigh.

Edit 2: Found her, thanks again for all your quick wonderful help there loving souls. I didn't expect for all of you to get back that quick to me.

Reunite 03-12-2010 02:16 AM

Re: Questions?
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by ellie (Post 254696)
Yes, I do have a question.

Where is one of my favourite ladies Burgundia, is everything okay or have I missed something.:wub2:

Edit: Mmmh, everyone must be nigh nigh.

Hello darling :wub2:

ellie 03-12-2010 02:23 AM

Re: Questions?
 
Hello gorgeous :wub2::wub2:

SteveX 03-13-2010 12:59 AM

Re: Questions?
 
never mind .... removed to another thread

SteveX 03-13-2010 04:16 AM

Re: Questions?
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Anchor (Post 254592)
So what, that will probably happen in time. Harping on about it wont hurry the process.

Human damage has been done here - healing takes time. We can help or we can hinder.

Does it help to know that GaiaLove created that group in the first place? No! Except it probably ruins Brook's argument.

AJ..

Did this comment get Anchor sent to the mist?

Everything looks like Starlin killing off the oppositions. I'm sure it's not but a lot off stuff ain't adding up. Where's Bill?

no caste 03-13-2010 04:39 AM

Re: Questions?
 
Are PM's (private messages) between members read by any moderators and/or passed along to mods/administrators' friends,
in a kind of (either) gossip and/or internal research chain?

JesterTerrestrial 03-13-2010 04:43 AM

Re: Questions?
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by SteveX (Post 255466)
Where's Bill?

That is a great question!!!

Nebula9D 03-13-2010 05:04 AM

Re: Questions?
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by JesterTerrestrial (Post 255476)
That is a great question!!!

It took ALL of us to make this forum happen. To see all that has happened lately is very sad. Yes change is good, But Newer doesn't mean better.

Yeah, where is Bill? Everybody is asking.

no caste 03-13-2010 06:22 AM

Re: Questions?
 
[QUOTE=mudra;253456]
Quote:


Would you say the search for facts is'nt a legitimate one ?
Around facts all parties could agree and the turmoil be lifted.
There would be no more questions then would it ?

Love Always
mudra
I concur.

LucidJia 03-13-2010 07:46 AM

Re: Questions?
 
Project avalon pledge....

• We will not tolerate suppression of the truth.

• We stand together to support others in the expression of truths and freedom to speak out... no matter how radical those ideas may seem.

• Standing for freedom takes courage; together we shall be strong in the face of all odds.

ellie 03-13-2010 07:49 AM

Re: Questions?
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by no caste (Post 255471)
Are PM's (private messages) between members read by any moderators and/or passed along to mods/administrators' friends,
in a kind of (either) gossip and/or internal research chain?

Of course it can be done, it is not supposed to be done but it can be done.

Karen 03-13-2010 08:09 AM

Re: Questions?
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by no caste (Post 255471)
Are PM's (private messages) between members read by any moderators and/or passed along to mods/administrators' friends,
in a kind of (either) gossip and/or internal research chain?

Moderators cannot read the private messages of other people.
I recently saw Lionhawk make this type of accusation in GaiaLove's chat room.
I investigated what I could. I found no such evidence.
Admins - I was told do not have easy access to PMs and why would they want to do that.

no caste 03-13-2010 08:12 AM

Re: Questions?
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Karen (Post 255568)
Moderators cannot read the private messages of other people.
I recently saw Lionhawk make this type of accusation in GaiaLove's chat room.
I investigated what I could. I found no such evidence.
Admins - I was told do not have easy access to PMs and why would they want to do that.

Thanks, Karen aka heart of gold.

Steve_A 03-13-2010 09:43 AM

Re: Questions?
 
Hi no caste,

In my case (I can't speak for all) all private messages sent to me where the person wishes the message to be kept between ourselves doesn't get mentioned to anyone.

If the info in a private message needs to be acted upon because it has something to do with the forum, I would pass on the information to either admin, or the others, depending on what the information is, not necessarily informando who sent the PM, depending on the situation.

Compliments that are sent to me I keep private as I'm too shy to share them with others (you know how timid I am!).

Best regards,

Steve


Quote:

Originally Posted by no caste (Post 255471)
Are PM's (private messages) between members read by any moderators and/or passed along to mods/administrators' friends,
in a kind of (either) gossip and/or internal research chain?


Stargazer1965 03-13-2010 04:20 PM

Re: Questions?
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by swordsmith (Post 254282)
yes, something very ugly is going on here. Plus the very idea of giving aduts a time out is repugnant, especially when it is given to the wrong ones. :shocked:
Honestly even titles like " hall monitor. " puke .
Burgundia had the fortitude to voice her disatisfaction, so now she is MYSTIFIED, and even that is not made clear.
Luminari, I suggest you tell all so people can have an informed choice if they want to further participate in this.
The whole thing has been very obvious to the observant.
BTW, all the love crap from certain individuals I find very aggressive, not to mention vampiric, but it matters not to me, you won't find my veins.
perhaps we need a thread for the deeply disgruntled and a meeting point eleswhere.
Just what is going on here is very interesting but not so much that you'd want to stay if its going to be just a lot of yes people frightened of conflict. Oh quick ! let's get back into the leaky boat and just keep bailing the waters of truth . yes water has a knack of wearing down the unservicable . So be it.

"but but i loooooove you even of you dont want me to, " thats right , I don't .
tough love, more my style in cases like this.

Hall monitor was a joke....[edit](There used to be laughter here)[edit] It will be removed soon with the change...Peace

BROOK 03-13-2010 04:23 PM

Re: Questions?
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Karen (Post 255568)
Moderators cannot read the private messages of other people.
I recently saw Lionhawk make this type of accusation in GaiaLove's chat room.
I investigated what I could. I found no such evidence.
Admins - I was told do not have easy access to PMs and why would they want to do that.

But they have access to members accounts....so they could in all possibility access PM's through the account? And if that is so...given account that some mods might lean in a direction other then the member whose account would be in question...could be accessed.

Why would they want to do that? Very good question indeed.

Stargazer1965 03-13-2010 04:44 PM

Re: Questions?
 
I'm a network admin guy and most of us live by the motto...

"Much easier to ask forgiveness than permission"

I remember Bill writing somewhere that he needed a Mod with "balls of steel"

I believe Richard was knighted....

"Run this as you see fit"....I can hear Bill say

"Control the inmates until we can escape"

With Richard came Celine.....An easy target when Richard is not here... to take pot shots at...

Celine has been with Richard so long she feels like an extension of him...Wielding perceived power here and some are buying into it

Fair or not...I don't know

Celine comes on like a bulldozer filled with flowers

You will love each other or by GOD I will..... (fill in the blank)

I feel like this place is a rubber boat filled with dying folks that was set adrift to save the OTHERS


I was of sound and quiet mind when I wrote this....I can go into the mists now...

Peace Y'all

PS:

Thank you everyone....I would have never made it this far without you

metaw3 03-13-2010 05:08 PM

Re: Questions?
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Karen (Post 255568)
Admins - I was told do not have easy access to PMs and why would they want to do that.

I feel bad for members who think their PMs are private. They are not to admins, including GaiaLove. Admins can read private messages. They can just browse the privatemessage table in phpMyAdmin, or they can install a hack to make the browsing more friendly. See for yourselves if you don't believe me:

http://www.google.com/search?hl=en&s...&aqi=&aql=&oq=

So the people who can read private messages, if they know how, would be on that list:
http://projectavalon.net/forum/showgroups.php

If you're going to badmouth an admin or a friend's admin, I strongly advise you do so by email, never by PM.

Linda 03-13-2010 06:01 PM

Re: Questions?
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by metaw3 (Post 255812)
I feel bad for members who think their PMs are private. They are not to admins, including GaiaLove.
Admins can read private messages.
They can just browse the privatemessage table in phpMyAdmin, or they can install a hack to make the browsing more friendly. b.

I agree.
It was a known fact on AstroVera that our PM's were being read.
I didn't care because mine were warning members of their agenda.

Never trust PM's if you really want something to be private.


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