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soapcrates,

I was planning to only have one drink tonight... hrmm :drinks_wine:

This kind of... how did you put it... parasitic imitation teaching...(wow, that just sounds down right nasty:naughty:) took many years to develope...:lmao:

probably ever since i started reading comic books as a kid... then found frank herbert's Dune novels... That pretty much did it for me...

You see Mr. Soapcrates... in case you haven't noticed... this forum has had it's fair share of interesting writers...

People.. who have for some reason or another chose to put their thoughts down into "forum".....

Some thoughts that can been proven unaquevically... others are but waiting to shed light to those who can SEE...


Thank you for your kind words Soapcrates,
they say that you are trying to be helpful, but the intention behind them I feel is to discredit Mr. Abrax

I've always thought my dreams were more "real" than my waking life could ever be.... Sorry if this isn't true for you...

To the awesome writers that have been on this forum I say many thanks...just to name a few

James Casbolt
Richard T
777theGreatWork
Abraxasinas

Some people just have no imagination any more :tongue2:

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Hi Malletzky!

This question is the bugbear, not only for all of science, but also for all religion.

Science 'stumbles' in material regression at the 'singularity', where the infinite meets and becomes the void and religion postulates supernatural precursors as somehow deriving from this 'natural emptiness or void'.
In the beginning there was no space or time, so how then can there be a beginning?

This beginning is like an uncut circle or loop, whose alpha-omega point remains undefined until the circle is cut (linearisation from circularisation technically).

But the concept of the possibility of the 'cutting' infers a logistic ordering of before (the cutting) and after the cutting. This is absolutely independent of space or time (which are connected by the lightpath X=cT anyway).

But even the visualisation and concept of a circle requires space and so the 'Circle of the Void' cannot be geometrically dimensional in the common usage of the terminology.

Rather the principle of the Order substitutes for Space and the antiprinciple of Disorder/Chaos substitutes for the Nonspace.

So now you have reduced the cosmogenesis to the precept of how the space emerges from the nonspace. The key is in what (can) exist before the order principle. It is expansion/contraction and so say addition/subtraction.

The Order evolves from the possibility of the duality of the plus/minus (in core archetypes, later becoming charges, yin/yang wave particle and so on).

Then is there something more fundamental then the Expansion/Contraction 'Aeon' or Cherubimic Kingdom or Principality?

Yes there is: Identity/Antiidentity - defining the + to be the antiID of the - and vice versa (again in core archetype).

So you have a preBigBang prespacertimematter cosmology resting on 1-2-3 as Identity-Expansion-Order.

[The actual cosmogenesis is a monadic archetype (o+o=8 say) bifurcating into the binary archetype dyad {0,1} in an algorithmic selfprogramming of sorts].

Next comes the 'Invention' of Time as a Counting-Parameter and physically the inverse time as FREQUENCY.

The story continues in technical detail, but can also become expressed in 'scriptural-mythological' metaphor.

Definition:

Forethought=Event A in Order as Before and Afterthought=Event B in Order as After Event A has occurred.

Event A is happening in the subplenum of the Void=Infinity and Event B becomes the MATERIALISATION (primarily via a physical cosmology based on the frequency parameter as inverse time) of the Event A.

Also note the highly significant passage in Genesis.2.5:
"And every plant of the field before it was in the earth, and every herb of the field before it grew: for the Lord God had not caused it to rain upon the earth, and there was not a man to till the ground."

Can you see here the solution to the chicken-egg or DNA-RNA paradox - in the Rooster's Egg preceding the Hen's?

So what happened to the Adam in Genesis.1.27?

This Man (presumed to be Adam) is not the same Adam and they are simply the archetypes for Man and Woman BEFORE there was any physical creation.
This is also the Pigeradamus in the gnostic literature, the Adam Kadmon of Kabbalah, the Purusha in the Vedas and the Vitruvian Man of western alchemy (Leonardo da Vinci).

This is the 'Lovechild' of 'The Invisible One' as the Forethought and of Barbelo as the Afterthought.

This is the Logos known as 'Christos' or the Word in John.1.1. AND it is also YOU as the afterthought expressing the forethought.

John Shadow

Next the the 'firmament' and the 'light' are defined in the below (especially #4), the 'firmament' being of course the 'divide' between the plenum of the physicalised emergent universe and the subplenum of the metaphysical (archetyped) universe.
In a sense the REALITY of God becomes dualised in the UNREALITY of the material universe RELATIVE to the 'imaginary' Creator and corollarily, the Self-Reality of the physical universe inhabitant can only be ascertained in rendering the Creator as Unreal or Imaginary (of course defining the skeptic/atheist position rather validly).
This is like you inside a bubble looking at the inside of the bubble surface - the outside (surface) of this bubble being in a 3D sense unfathomable and unreal to you as an inside observer.
The 'masterplan' then postulates an eventual 'piercing' of this doublesided manifold (inside+outside) in the allowance of rendering the twosidedness onesided and doubled (Moebius Strip).
This is then labeled as the 'Homecoming' of Gaia or the Second Coming of the Cosmic Christ in Manyness.



1. God's Power-Source
God's Power-Source is a form of 'eternal energy', yet 'unitarily particularised' not definable in any spacetime except in its mathematical formalism.
This mathematical logos so specifies what this concept of 'eternity' relative to its antistate of temporality implies. Those specifications then must also DEFINE the omniness of anything in relation to the God-concept.
In its most simple terms; the 'eternal energy' becomes a 'physicalisable' energy residing not in spacetimematter, but in a subplenum.
The subplenum is nontemporal, nonlocal and nonmaterial; but is defined in the mathematical principles and rules attaining to numerical systems, all based upon the binary code both algebraically and geometrically.
The geometric form of the 'Closed' Zero-Loop becomes physicalised in the 'Open' One-Loop or the Superstring and which then leads definition of a binary numeracy rootextended into the decimal in the archetypical set:
Binary-Monad BM: {0,1} → Decimal-Monad DM: {0,1,2,3,4,5,6,7,8,9}.

The subplenum so becomes a 2-dimensional Complex plane, with origin the Unity of the Binary-Monad BM, i.e. the eigenstate of either open-ended or closed superstring loops.
It is this UNITY within the subplenum (as itself and as a prior definition for 'God'), which then allows the nonphysicalised nature of God to define itself without the existence of space, time and/or matter.
This nonphysicality then utilizes the UNITY of ITSELF to extend its own self-definition by application of fundamental principles (see hierarchy of God in 9.).
In particular, the 6th principle of inversion allows the algebraic concept of the ratio to assume limiting functionalities (say in convergent and divergent asymptotic series and number sequences). This then allows boundary- and initial conditions for a subsequent physical reality to become established in the 'complex manifold' of the subplenum.
Division of the Unity=1 AS the Open-Geometric-Superstring by the Zero=0 AS the Closed-Geometric-Superstring so applies the Principle of Inversion WITHIN the Decimal-Monad hierarchy and DEFINES the quantum relativity between the subplenum and itself as a plenum comprised of the UNITY eigenstate.

The Unified Power-Source so is a God-Quantum which has UNLIMITED energy in the subplenum, because the 'Counting' of such subplenum units represents a 'Wholey Trinity' in being simultaneously Unity=FinityAfter=1 and Zero=FinityBefore=0 and Eternity=Infinity=∞

God's Power-Source represents an Infinite Reservoir of SourceSink Subplenum 'IMAGINATION-Energy'; defined in the UNITY-God-Quantum and in an 'IMAGE-Energy', which becomes manifested in finite partiality in selfcontained closed systems, such as a Planck-Black Body-Radiator defining the entropy-related thermodynamic expansion (and cooling) of a physically finitised universe.

2. God's Operating System (OS) and Processor
God's OS is then the plenum of a physically imaged universe.
The eternity of God becomes 'trapped' in the asymptotic definitions of the 'Laws of Nature', which are all based on the algorithmic nature of the string monadic sets, which, under utility of the hierarchical principalities, allow mathematical relationships and proportionalities to become defined in abstract terms of the complex unity of the subplenum, before becoming IMAGED in the physicality of the finite spacetimematter, termed the universe's cosmogony and cosmology.

3. God's Output-Input Function
God's Input is naturally the UNIT of itself as the God-Quantum.
Iow, the quantization of the physicalised universe becomes a holofractal multiplication or quanta count of God itself. The universe, being a 'count' of God-Units so differentiates itself as the plenum of 'Finity of Measurement' from the subplenum of 'Infinity of Nonmensuration'.
Alternatively expressed, the metric spacetimes within a selfcontained thermodynamic system, subject to statistical integration of multidimensional and multifaceted energy eigenstates; become nonstochastic in the Unity energy selfstate of the subplenum.
The plenum so becomes a mirror image in the subplenum; remaining however as a finitized subset of the infinite superset as that image.

God's primary Input so becomes a finitised and countable quantum energy integral definitive for the total energy content of the so termed Quantum Big Bang. The precise quantum count is a function of the inflaton-instanton, defining the 11-dimensional supermembrane boundary (itself a quantum count as a surface area integration) to encompass the thermodynamically expanding 'Planck-Nugget-Seed', which is one dimension lower to allow a hybrid toroidal overall topology for the multidimensional universe, originating from a protoversal seed.

God's secondary Input is however a function of the PROCESSING capabilities of the primary Input becoming Output and subsequent Inputs multiply the protoversal seed as phaseshifted multiverses as a function of the Output potentials of the protoversed multiverses.

The purpose for the creation from the creator is simply the SIMULTANEOUS Self-Experience of God in the distinctions of the subplenum of oneness and the plenum of spacetime separations.
To EXPERIENCE ITSELF, God must bifurcate (and then holographically multifractalize) its own Unity.
The function of the Input is to experience 'on God's behalf' in the 'Kingdom of the Separation', namely the physical universe; and then to IMAGE in IMAGINATION and LOGISTICAL MODELS and FORMALISMS and otherwise 'as a processed Output' becoming the 'reflected' Input; reemitted from the plenum of the spacetimematter into the suplenum of the 'singularity'.

The PROCESSORS from and for God so become the God-Quantums in agglomeration, defining the 'Consciousness' of godlike spacetimematter containers.
God's Consciousness then becomes a particular energy-resonance eigenstate, defined in frequency and related derivatives (see 10.) and specifically in the concept of a 3-dimensional volumar being acted upon by a form of angular acceleration, the latter being by definition independent on the radial displacement of linear metrics and the separation of idealised coordinate 'points'.
The minimised 'consciousness-units' in God's cosmology are neutrons, evolving into hydrogen atoms, followed by molecules and macro-inertia conglomerations including chemical compounds, asteroids, moons, planets, stars and galaxies; viruses, bacteria, algae, fungi, mosquitoes, fish, salamanders, lizards, dinosaurs, birds, smilodons, australopithecines, orang-utans, bonobos, dogs and cats, Stanleys and Samanthas; Sirians, interdimensional extraterrestrials like methaned Venusians and groupgalactic Magellaneans to the SUMTOTAL of the universe's consciousness as the EVOLVING Superconsciousness of God itself.

And so, should you watch an ant crawling in your garden or should you engage in watching some birds of divers variety; you are OBSERVING God-consciousness in self-evolvement.
The Gonsciousness of God within the universe is not only separated from its subplenum unity as the certainty of the unitary probability count; but is also separated in the plenum as plenar subconsciouness carriers in a kaleidoscope of multiplicity and individuation.
But ALL is God, attempting WITHIN to remember what IT is and using its 'scattered' Imagination what it could be and could become.

God's 'Masterplan' so is to multiply 'itself' without end in a 'Family of God'.
Yet, as long as the 'Family of Man' continues to refuse to 'Remember itself' in its 'Function of the Output' and continues to 'not-reflect' its god-given Input-Life back to its source; as long will the UNITIZED God-Source remain in exile relative to itself.

For the IMAGE-Function of God between the plenum and the subplenum and the holographic principle of the Decimal-Monad hierarchy demands a 'Mirror of Mirrors' within the plenum of the cosmological spacetimes.
Just as the One God reflects itself as the One Universe; so must there be A DAM (a sire and a dam) as a 'Universal Archetype' within the plenum to allow 'God's Story' to proceed.

The Image or mastertemplate for the One Universe so becomes 'Cosmic Man Vitruvius' of the hermetic alchemist Leonardo da Vinci or 'Purusha' of the Baghavad Gita or 'Adam Kadmon' of Kabbalah or the particular individuation Malletzky on PA forum discussion forum.
Then as a miniature universe; anything whatsoever and all godlike conciousness carriers within the plenum who Malletzky encounters in whatever manner of dreams, imaginations, physical observations, experimentations and interactions; will be enabled to USE Malletzky's spacetimed mirror potential to REFLECT themselves in that for the purpose to by and through Malletzky's mirror-portal to contact the Unity-Quantum-God in the subplenum.

4. God's Beginning
"In the beginning was the Word, and the Word was with God, and the Word was God."
John.1.1-KJV
The definition for God as Energy so is preceded by something doing the 'defining', namely the Word=Logos=Definition. The undefined, say chaotic or unstructured subplenum energy so emerges in a defined state through the action of the Logos as the 'Logic of God' and being WITH God, becomes God.

The 'Beginning of God', before there is any physicalised energy (manifested in the quantum big bang through the inflaton-instanton), so engages 'God's Self-Awakening', i.e. it's own 'becoming conscious of itself'.
Once self-aware however, the physical cosmology can eventuate in God's bifurcation into 'Spiritual' Creator and 'Antispiritual' Creation and as Mirror-Functions of each other.
The subplenum 'pre-energy' so defines the 'Spirit' in terms of the nonseparated or superheterotic supermembrane prior to the modular duality between the heterosis becomes established.
The 26-dimensional bosonic superstring of the subplenum so defines a circularly mathematical complex continuum from which the vibratory sourcestring Eps decouples from its winded antistate of the winding sinkstring Ess in the plenum to recombine in the 11-dimensional supermembrane EpsEss. Technically, the heterosis engages the conifoldment of 16-dimensional anticlockwise vibration patterns onto 10-dimensional clockwise frequency eigenstates to define 10-dimensional hybrid superstrings.

5. God's End
God's End is God's Beginning as the alphaomega and the recircularisation of the supermembrane loops.
In terms of the subplenum, this defines the circularity of time in the nonexistence of a temporal flow of time with particular pasts, presents and futures. Only a Now-Moment and as the 'uncut' string-loop exists as the 0-binary eigenstate.
Yet, the plenum demands the concept of a 'flow of time' in a coupling to the entropy definitions of the algorithmic definitions underpinning the 'Laws of Nature'.
So the Quantum Big Bang eventuated following a 'string-epoch' and bounded in the inflaton-instanton of timeinstantenuity.
Technically, timeinstantenuity becomes the sinksource frequency fss=1/fps in modular duality becoming the inverse squareroot of the maximum entropy selfstate counter {as [df/dt]max=fps2 =E*/h=e*h see 10.} and as the 'Consciousness-Resonance' Eigenstate as the upper bound for the godlike consciousness carriers.
However, as the protoverse is defined in the inflaton preceding the materialising spacetimes in:
{VdeBroglie=RHubble.fps=c.fps/Ho=cfpsdt/dn}, and since the linearised cosmoevolution of the inertial 10-dimensional protoverse must remain asymptotic as a function of cycletime n=Hot; the End of this cosmology must be defined before its Beginning from parameters defining the eternity of the subplenum.
The End of God so becomes a Cyclicity embedded into the formalisms for the asymptotic cosmology, defining the cosmogony ontologically.
Technically (and in Black Hole physics described elsewhere) then; the overall cosmic consciousness evolution is expected to have progressed enough every 4 trillion years or so, to trigger a 'renewed' 'consciousness explosion' of the 'eternal God' to RECHARGE the seedling protoverse in a renewal of the nuclear (read dineutron/ylemic) fuel for steller regeneration.
Every 4000 billion years or so, a new Quantum Big Bang eventuates, seeded however upon the primordial seed of the initialising inflaton-instanton from the subplenum.

6. God's Location in Within-Without Bilocality
The subplenum God is without spacetimematter and so is defined as omnipresent, omnitimed, omniscientific and omnipotent by the Logos.
The Unitary God-Quantum forms the 'Bridge' for the subplenum God to experience its own separation as an integral of the God-Quantum in the spacetimed plenum.
God remains eternally unified however; as the microquantum of the sourcesink string eigenstate (which defines the 'Bridge') is in 'eternal' selfcoupling to its sinksource string-antieigenstate, the latter defining the macroquantum.
Technically, the vibratory stringscale is of the wormhole order of 10-22/2π (cosmic meters m*); whilst its reciprocal gives the modular duality in the halo-galactic scale of 2πx1022 m* or about 7 million lightyears.

7. God's Laws of Nature
There are two primary algorithms, which generate the fundamental constants of nature in cosmic units (*). The cosmic unitary system comes into effect by any cosmic civilisation measuring just two fundamental ratios in the proportionality constants between Energy and Mass as E/M=c2 and between Energy and Frequency as E/F=h.
As the energy unit (Joule*) contains the kg-m-s mensuration, any experimental determination of Planck's Constant 'h' and Einstein's Constant 'c2', will suffice to calibrate the mass-displacement-time measurement standards for the first of the 'Natural Laws'.
This can be written as:
Energy E=hf=mc2
E=hf iff m=0; (requiring c=fλ as universal lightspeed finestructure)
E=mc2 iff f=fss (as the Eigenfrequency of mass)
The first algorithm generates the following configurations under utility of the fundamental principles of the hierarchy (see 9.) and in the order:

{C1=N1=4; C2=N2=6; C3=N3=7; C4=I1=1/[6x1015]; C5=D12 =9x1016; C6=N4=11; C7=I2=1/[15x1032]; C8=D22=14x1524; C9=I3=1/[15x1618]; C10=26x6561}.
From this set; the numerical parameters to manifest a physically finetuned cosmology derive with an integer-based lightspeed constant c=3x108 (m/s)*=D1 coupled to a similarly integerized action constant h=1/[15x1032] (Js)*=I2.

The second algorithm is of the syntax form for a linearised subplenum superstring:
"Add the End to the Beginning and Begin the Head with the Tail!"

8. God's Subjectivity-Objectivity in regards to the Universal Laws of Nature
God is both Object and Subject relative to Reality.
Within the plenum, the God-idea becomes a subjective 'picture' as a 'negative' for the objective physical reality as a 'positive' observable and measurable entity.
Without the plenum and so within the subplenum, God is the objective 'spiritual' reality; this SPIRIT becoming rigorously definable as the quantum energy eigenstate for the minimised possible measurement within the plenum (and so as the Planck-Singularity of string-looped quantum physics).
The subjectivity within the plenum so manifests in the multiplicity of the physicalised units 'bridging' the abyss into the subplenum of the 'spiritual reality'.
This 'spiritual reality' so becomes an inertia independent form of electromagnetic monopolar radiation; activating under the acceleration of the God-quanta, namely the angular awareness function of the timedifferential of frequency (df/dt=Consciousness/UnitVolume and fmax2=e*/V*=2Rec2/(2π2r*3)=8πRec5mcompton3/h3 and so defining the quantum Compton-Mass configuration for the God-Resonance energy eigenstate measurable under the appropriate initial- and boundary conditions in mcompton=2.505...x10-23 kg* or about 2.25 microjoules or about 14.03 TeraElectronvolts (TeV).

The design-maximum (presently unattainable) energy of the Large Hadron Collider (LHC) at Geneva, Switzerland so would, if fully operational at maximum capacity, 'tap' the 'Envelope of God's Selfstate Energy'.
This energy level behaves PHYSICALLY like the event horizon of a Kerr-Ringed Black Hole.
But here it is the quantum eigenstate for the minimum inertia manifestation which surrounds the wormhole of the God-SourceSink energy quantum (see 10.) at 1/e*=0.002 Joules* or about 12,450 TeV as the UNITARY GOD bridging the plenum with the subplenum.

At 12,450 TeV; the experimental observer would so witness God as the physical reality IT represents.

To reduce the Beginning of the Universe to an asymptotic recession cannot solve the 'Origin of God' question; because this infinite reduction CANNOT escape the plenum.
The Nullstate of the plenum so becomes the idea of the physical energy singularity as the limit for this reductionism.
The other way around is however completely feasible and the actuality for the cosmic expansion scenarios.
Once you have 'a beginning' in the spacetimematter quanta, then a simple multiplication and summation of such spacetimematter- or God-string-quanta can become asymptotic in an Infinite Approach to UNITY or Oneness.
This then is the statistical probability count, which must always be 1 in total integration.
So having the beginning, the cosmological evolution for the universe can be ever better approximated and modelled via improving measurement apparatus and theoretical calculations.
The trouble is the singularity of infinite physical quantifications.
But because God must be a Quantum-God to be WITHIN the spacetimematter plenum; it becomes easy to postulate this Quantum-God to be precisely the minimum physical energy configuration eigenstate for the physical universe and as the boundary condition, the initial- and end condition and as the LIMIT for all measurements using spacetimematter- or plenum parameters.

Then it is also easy to take the next logical step and postulate that the Quantum-God of the plenum is also the Quantum-God of the subplenum with the caveat, that spacetimematter parameters do not exist in the subplenum and so the Quantum-God must remain physically unreal or imaginary.
They become REALISED however in the understanding that the subplenum is the VOID and the VOID is simultaneously Nothing AND Everything.
This Nothing and Everything then MANIFESTS in the plenum as the minimum- and maximum energy eigenstates (technically defined in superbrane parameters of the modular duality, which brings the theories together in a grand unification of all things able to exist - including all of the imaginary things).
The minimum selfstate of the Quantum-God is a LIMIT of time measurement and just like a smallest possible circle unwinding itself to define the lightpath for the circle's perimeter transversion.
The maximum selfstate is a little different, as it must encompass the antistate of the minimum configuration as well as the potential expansion of the plenum under the auspices of the subplenum providing Information-Energy as Data, which can then become physicalised thermodynamic-entropic energy in the plenum.
This is the Infinite Approach being allowed and the Infinite recession being disallowed in the 'Laws of Nature' defining the Quantum-God.


9.God's Hierarchy
Summararily then, the Origin of God is God itself, becoming multiplexed from its monoplexed monadic singularity selfstate.

The details engage algorithmic encodings, built on 10 universal principles, 7 of which have antistates, whilst 3 have not. The principles and algorithms generate the fundamental constants, used in proportionalities and ratios for the universe of spacetimematter to be born and to become descriptive in mathematical equations.
The 10 principalities (which are archetyped as cherubimic and demonic kingdoms in the older languages of the ancient scrolls) are:

1. Identity-AntiIdentity
2. Expansion-Contraction
3. Order-Disorder=Entropy=Chaos
4. Symmetry-Antisymmetry=Disparity=Distortion
5. Infinity=Divergence-Limit=Convergence
6. Inversion=Reciprocity-Constancy=Invariance
7. Reflection-Absorption (6&7 define Hebrews.6.18)
8. Relativity (No AntiPrinciple---Revelation17.11)
9. Quantization=Holofractalisation (No AntiPrinciple)
10.New Identity, using 1-9 to transform the Old Dual-Identity


10. God's Definition in omniscientific terms of quantum-relativistic supermembranes

Quantum Relativity links the metrics of Einsteinian Relativity to their original metaphysical cosmogenesis. Theistic- and Spiritual definitions become a consequence of magnetocharged superbranes as wormhole singularities 'before' spacetime creation as progenitors for inertia.
LOVE is a VIBRATORY RESONANCE described in a GAUGE SOURCESINK-PHOTON in its supersymmetric selfcoupling under modular duality and which can be defined in its own resonance eigenstate as:

E*=kT*=hf*=hc/λ*=m*c²=1/e* for Unity E*e*=1 and its coupling parameters.

Energy*=Heterotic Supermembrane HE(8x8)=EpsEss
E*=√{2πGome2/4αhce2}=[me/mP]/2e√α=1/e*=1/2Rec2
=GODDOG=DOGGOD=Supersymmetry in alphanumeric abstract complexity

AA

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Hi Abraxas --

So HAPPY to see ya'll back on the thread! (as she nods to Hans & Tony :wink2:)

i've been busy formulating questions in anticipation of your return and was moved to think of another by your answer to Malletsky.

1) i've been thinking about forgiveness .... (do you know that Don Henley song? it's one of my favorites![I][/I) ..... will there be any need to forgive one another beyond 3rd dimension? Will we have transcended polarity sufficiently to render "forgiveness" irrelevant?

2) i've become aware recently of a feeling regarding organized religion that not only casts it as "part of the matrix," but also as a likely stumbling block to the "masses" once disclosure has occurred (since Disclosure could destroy many people's faith in the institutional church and its God/gods, thereby inhibiting their' ability to discern/assimilate/experience the Truth which is necessary for Ascension into 4th-5th dimensions[B][B].

Since i have basically had a positive experience with organized religion (though not currently a "practicing" Catholic), this is somewhat difficult for me to understand. i just feel like God's truth is available to us in so many diverse ways, that with or without a formal institution (which inevitably means corruption) we are each able to avail ourselves of the Grace which points us toward God/Love/Light/Goodness and away from distortion, deception, darkness. Could you comment on this for me please, Abraxas.

3) Originally Posted by Abraxas (emphasis added by me):

"God's 'Masterplan' so is to multiply 'itself' without end in a 'Family of God'.
Yet, as long as the 'Family of Man' continues to refuse to 'Remember itself' in its 'Function of the Output' and continues to 'not-reflect' its god-given Input-Life back to its source; as long will the UNITIZED God-Source remain in exile relative to itself."

[does this have anything to do with the "Agony of God?

and, in a related question, if polarity exists forever (i think i understood you to say this once in response to one of my questions), then does that mean God suffers eternally?]


"For the IMAGE-Function of God between the plenum and the subplenum and the holographic principle of the Decimal-Monad hierarchy demands a 'Mirror of Mirrors' within the plenum of the cosmological spacetimes.
Just as the One God reflects itself as the One Universe; so must there be A DAM (a sire and a dam) as a 'Universal Archetype' within the plenum to allow 'God's Story' to proceed."

[God needs a wife? a mother for his prospective star-babies?!?]


"The Image or mastertemplate for the One Universe so becomes 'Cosmic Man Vitruvius' of the hermetic alchemist Leonardo da Vinci or 'Purusha' of the Baghavad Gita or 'Adam Kadmon' of Kabbalah or the particular individuation Malletzky on PA forum discussion forum.
Then as a miniature universe; anything whatsoever and all godlike conciousness carriers within the plenum who Malletzky encounters in whatever manner of dreams, imaginations, physical observations, experimentations and interactions; will be enabled to USE Malletzky's spacetimed mirror potential to REFLECT themselves in that for the purpose to by and through Malletzky's mirror-portal to contact the Unity-Quantum-God in the subplenum."

[HALLELUIA :original::thumb_yello::trumpet:

Abraxas, if you feel like expanding on this idea at all, feel free!

Thanks so much, AA.


hippihill

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It looks like you're getting a good part of this hippihill!

It almost sounds like you are starting to adopt 'Abraxas speak'... so to speak... hehe...

It seems that Catholics may have an intuition about some of what Abraxas speaks about as I suspect many of the 'rituals' we all experienced in parochial schools (Catholics I mean) and daily church had a purpose in their origins though likely interpreted to fit the priestly desires of the moment or worse, intentionally distorted to control the masses and keep the coffers full.

Much of what Jesus said was so profound yet grossly misunderstood by his followers and it's not a wonder as to why, ie. "Lest you eat this flesh and drink this blood, you shall not have life in you." WOW... what a statement!

For the uninitiated it sounds like cannibalism but as has been pointed out in this thread, Jesus' mission had a far greater purpose than the few years he spent preaching and walking amongst us.

There was a mystical progression that he came to announce and an eternal justification that unfolded from his actions and words, that speak to us even today as we all wonder 'What it all means."

Now if I could just figure out how I can walk through walls...

Peace

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Jonah,

sorry you see it that way - you could perhaps have thought that just might know whereof i speak. You are indeed correct in saying that there have been and indeed still are some excellent writers on this forum. there are however also some that are definitely a sandwich short of a spaceship.

Anyone and i mean anyone who encourages another being to surrender their body or mind under any circumstances is at best being irresponsible and at worst being downright malicious - i refrained from the implication of spite, evil or malign intent when writing, because i don't think its there, but its definitely an option. you wont find any being of light anywhere that is genuine doing that.

If you are saying tat the entire contents of this thread is intended to e fantasy and nothing more, then thats fine, and certainly most of it reads as exactly that.it is sadly far from accurate in many respects regarding reality.

Now if it is intended as fantasy i am all for that, - i really enjoyed Dune although i rather felt that the later books were a little forced, but still good.

Nothing wrong with fantasy - as long as all concerned are aware of the game. I noted a certain reluctance i the post i responded to regarding yielding to another being and that is why i stuk my nose in - seemed to me that somone doesnt know its fiction - i am still not convinced as to who that might be.

I would, however strongly sugget tha tthis thread be re labelled specifically as fiction if that is its intent, adn as dangerous verging on the irresponsible if it is not intended to be fiction.

I gurantee you that if oyu go to any reputable medium,lightworker, healer,higher being or GUru, and tell them what dunderhead said, they will throw a fit. htis is because it is dangerous, irresponsible and downright wrong. and its not the only - shall we say "inaccuracy" here.

Re label it fantasy and i will become a fan [ if the quality improves and co author if it doesnt]. but at least put a health warning on it and call it fiction up front.

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Thank You :)

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You are greatly honoured in Thuban malletzky for asking these questions.

[B][B]AA

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Abrax, it was Hippihill that asked these questions...but believe me, it is as if Hippihill was able to read my thoughts...it took me some time to digest that superb answer you gave to my previous questions, so he was faster then I...I would have ask you almost the same questions!

But here we have the proof that, after all, we're all ONE...in this case, really, Hippihill was as ONE with ME...:thumb_yello:

regards
malletzky

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I apologize for my misnomication malletzky and hippihillbobbi. Indeed hippihillbobbi the 'she(he) is mirrored in malletzky the
he(she).

Even on Thuban we make literal construction errors sometimes.
You two must have already become inaugurated in the Thubanese 'Hall of the Human Flames' - therefore the 'sanctioned' blending of your cocoons.

Abraxas

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Abrax, I accept your apoligize :wink2:

About the misnomication, it could've happen to anyone...as you know, the words and all written texts contain a certain energy paterns, and the Hippihill's and mine energy patterns are very similar...

Nevertheless, I just discovered something very, very interessting in your answer to Hippihill...

What a powerfull concept this is!

May I assume that we're not only supposed to not only find the way back home to the creator, but more then this, that we're primarly supposed to 'learn' the creation itself while finding the way back???

If so...it really does matters to find out that 'going back home'...or the 'second comming'...must happen from inside-out and not visa versa!

with respect
malletzky

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Greetings Abrax,

An impressive thread you got going on here. What I like about it, is that it isn't strictly a work of a lazy mind with the copy and paste method. You also seem overly accommodating. Not saying that is bad. But to say it mildly I am slightly confused here as to why at this date and time, the council you are affiliated with has decided to put this information out there.

Since I am now in the den of a Dragon, with a Dragon with what seems to be of a great heart, I would also like to ask why this is such a familiar place to me? It would seem like I have been in several of these dens and although my memory goes way back, it would also seem this is like business as usual.

If I know anything about Dragons, it is the swapping of the stories that rarely occur between a Dragon and a human. And yet here you are swapping many stories to many a human.

Mind you, I haven't come here to disrupt or interrupt your thread here with any malice intent. But forgive my curiosity. In all of my memories, there are many that include Dragons, since the time of Antiquity. Most of those memories are horrific ones. Why the Creator allowed his creations to devour another creation has never been really answered for me since those times.

I watched humans get sliced and diced by the very claws of your kind. When I say your kind, I mean your kind as in your soul family in Creation. The very family that exists among us today.

But if I do anything today, in this post, is set something straight that really hasn't been discussed. Not many are even aware of the ramifications of this in this painting, as they may have only read about it, possibly. They have no experience to go by as a reference to even understand such knowledge unless it is conveyed to them as dark or light.

A Dragon is a Dragon. A Human is a Human. The soul fragments of each have a different matrix. Both are the Creator's creations. Both have had the same kind of road less travel as they both have also degenerated through the ages. There is a time where these two had to be completely separated from each other in the Universe. To the extreme that one was placed in this Universal polarity and the other was placed in it's Universal opposite polarity. For that matter, I don't think this has been written anywhere here on the Planet as it is not privy information. The reason why this was decided was to actually ensure the prospect of soul growth in some sort of progression. The Dragons were on the other side of this Galaxy in the other polarity. A great King was appointed and is still ruling today. Well, since the Dragons were separated from man, they had no one else to slice and dice, so they started slicing and dicing themselves. Factions broke off from the Kingdom and wanted their own Kingdom as it is the quest for power that will drive a Dragon mad. Kind of like giving booze to a Native American. The great King Dragon tried for eons to turn this plight around. But these factions that joined together as one, refuted against the King. So, it was decided that something had to be done, as these Dragons thirst for power, was killing this great kingdom. They were an uncontrollable menace. So they were gathered up and exiled through the center of our galaxy through the Black hole. Some know the rest of the story. The Orion war and so forth to this day in the now.

I have a speculation. I speculate that this council of yours is seeking favor with the humans at this time because of what is about to happen. You guys have a problem. And right now you are desperate because you know that your end is near. You think your soul group here will be possibly saved if in thinking that you can convince someone to see that you are worthy of saving by now trying to embrace the human faction. Like you are now doing us all a great big favor.

Let me put this in Black and White instead of Light and Dark. The fact is that your faction of the Dragons were exiled or banished from where you came from. No matter how your council tires to disguise it. And since that time, some of you tried to go back but couldn't. In other words, you saw the light as to what your King was saying, but you already had chosen your fate. It is the original sin that the dark chose to refute the Creator's wishes for all of his creations. Except this time your council and brethren repeated the same mistake with your King. So, to now appear in this date and time as such glorious beings is not going to change the original sin that your kind has perpetrated. And since that time of banishment, look at the karma, your soul group as now compiled. Imagine a pile of dragon dung that can fill up several sectors in this Universe.

With all of your brilliance and accomplishments that only served to satisfy your thirst for power, you have created your own black hole and it has been fed by the very energy you have fed it. And despite all the crimes against every outpost you have conquered in the quest for that power, you have more or less put the noose around your own necks. Your council's decision to not fully take responsibility by placing another agenda at the foot of the human race, is like getting the switch man ready to pull the switch on your noose floor.

You seemed to be a young Dragon by Dragon standards and well schooled. It is a shame because some of you have seen the light, but so many of your brethren have not, and you have become well out numbered by your own kind because you chose to see the light as to where they still refuse it. You, yourself might find the Creators grace when all this is said and done. There is a chance for you to save your brethren and one chance only. That chance has to do with your true King. It will not be achieved by your council or any other faction that has separated itself from your soul group that is currently here. I also know your brethren have a watchful on what you are doing here. They have no use for us human folk. Theirs eyes only show contempt for us to the extreme. Like that final look before the kill.

To make matters worse, in a matter of speaking, if your council and brethren decide to finally negotiate for your soul family's survival, a human has been appointed to assist in that process. The reason for that was to really test your resolve as to your true intentions. There is no more room for the scheming. It is no longer about your entitlement attitude and power. It is about your soul survival, period.

So I leave with this with you in hopes that you all make sense of this and know that it isn't all as you have so far put it. You left out some crucial things or maybe your own council kept it from you.

Also if that wasn't enough information for you to be motivated in any direction you choose, I have two more things of intrigue that might get your attention. One, the technology you have been seeking that was once here, that your kind had control of, because you stole it in the first place, is no longer in your possession as you know. Also any persons that you are possibility trying to find that may lead you back to that technology are also not within your council's reach. So you are wasting your time. Tell that to your superiors.

So, I hope our encounter was an interesting one for you, my Dragon friend. Notice I didn't complicate it with all the dragon dribble. It's complicated enough. And sure you can have me checked out if you like. I would advise that anyway. Spirit Matthew told me that my name is how the Universe knows me. He is a wise soul.

Namaste'

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finally another true warrior comes forward and speaks the truth the way I know it to be (stardust was the first)

Thank you LionHawk once again for expressing your thoughts.

I'm proud of you and know in my heart we have many great warriors such as you to help us through these times.


Blessings

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Dear Lionhawk!

Some humans are getting ready to transform into Dragons; a very few are on the brink of doing so (1 in 50,000).
Most humans are not ready for Dragonhood; yet requiring evolvement and preparations.
According to your words of personal wisdom above, you are one of the latter humans - not yet ready for Dragonhood.

Should you search in your caves of your remembrances, then you might find some clues as to where the ancestors of the Dragons come from.
This should then allow you to revise the histories as you have learned them from second-hand sources.

Shalom!

AA

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So, what about the content of Lionhawk's post?

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Dear Trancoso!

The PTB are RULED by the Dragon archetype.
The PTB are unable to access more than 95% of the Cosmic History.
As Collier says, the Paa Taal (or similar label) have been forgotten in the records as the ancestors of all.
Those ancestors are rather closely entwined with the concept of the starhumanity as the fourth 'brain halo' evolving from the Reptilian brainstem, the mammalian midbrain and the human cortex.
This agenda allows recircularisation of the linearity in the Orb of the Ouroborus (Milky Way Mazzaroth or Circle of the Zodiac).

The content of Lionhawk's reply contains no direct questions to be answered and was answered relative to the consciousness vibrations emitted through the wordings.
It is in my authority to discern written material within the context and under guidance of the Thuban master templar - the universal Logos.

In this capacity and authority I choose if and how to reply to unsubstantiated innuendo and preconceived ideas and bias with respect to the History of the Dragons and as found in the archives on Thuban.

As most can ascertain, I DO answer direct questions in all cases, except in oversight or when these questions are intended to cause strife and dissonance or are what is labelled as ad hominem.

AA

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You are BOTH, shard of the creator and shard of the creation simltaneously malletzky.
And you seem to have understood one of the 'hidden data' (the 5% the PTB have not yet discerned relative to their data base) rather well.

The symbolism of the eucharist is THE MOST POTENT archetype for the human-starhuman transformation.
It's the real thing and is being 'synthesized' by the PTB in 'implants' and such things. It is inside-out and not outside-in.

The Cosmic Archetypology RULES the Cosmos.
The reconfiguration of Gaia so requires reconfiguration of the entire cosmic structure.
This has been the agenda of all, PTB and ETs all along.
Not many know the details, but many have hints and indicators as to what those details entail - especially the echeloners at the top of the PTB pyramid.

AA

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Ja, lekker dan, zo ken ik er nog wel een paar!

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Well, well, my dear Dragon. Nice try. Brushing it off your back with a brush called arrogance. To be expected in the first round between us. For that matter I think you have one hell of a sense of humor and you might consider the comedy circuit, because when I read your response, you made me laugh and I can only hope that my laugh wasn't an annoying echo in your den.

Dragon-hood. Now that is by definition a confusing concept. A definition that could very well be projected by whatever gang is giving out such information related to their agenda. It even sounds like something a kin to a degree. PHD comes to mind as to your delivery. Also the agenda of transforming humans into Dragons surely tells me that you are desperate. I must inform you that I have to take away a point by your response and let you know the number stands at 96% instead of 95%. With 4 percentage points left.

For one thing, from everything in my experience is not as you have tried to paint it. I thought Dragons had courage. You must be a young Dragon and have not fully found that courage that should be beating in your Heart. No matter the dragon dribble that you have displayed in your response, I will allow you the grace for your immaturity.

The point of my addressing you is that you have lured many with your wisdom. Even I am impressed with your talents. But not enough to compromise what the Creator has already blessed me with as a human as in higher universal man. Why would I defile his intentions by allowing what he has already blessed me with as one of his creations into something he did not intend. And you are doing what? Uncreating one in 50,000 into something that has forgotten what it was blessed with in the first place? That is just one of the most perverted perversions of the Universe I have heard in a while. The premise of that is actually very twisted in design and just shows at what lengths your soul family has gone to exploit one of God's creations. But really, why would I be surprised at this twisted twist as I have seen with my own eyes what your soul family has done. If you are really paying attention here, I said that and from the first hand as to what I brought to the table.

There are several key components that your brethren and your council no longer have control of. One of which I didn't mention in the first round, are the keys to that gate that some of you tried with all of your might to go through but turned you into Dragon butter instead. Another thing that is not in your cave of awareness is who or what is keeping that gate shut. And not to upset you but I will tell you that it is from the true source that has made this contract to keep you all here, until you embrace what you have refuted.

I have no such agenda as in duping anyone as to what I have brought here today. If anything I have spent countless years in service, since the time of Antiquity and those caves as memories as you so poorly put that is all in one cave. One life stream. If everyone could remember in full, what they have experienced in their life streams, I fear there would be a massive war of retribution reborn in this Universe for all the pain and suffering your soul family has provided them. And through the years of torment and suffering I have endured, I have come far in the healing of the prejudice your soul family has graced me with. To the point where, I have come here in actual peace to try to negotiate a peace, spite your arrogance.

I didn't come here to complicate your day Abrax. I came here with a solution to all concerned. As usual, the display of your response is no longer a speculation, as your arrogance has surely showed part of your claws. You claim you have authority but that authority is mis directed as to what your agenda is all about is nothing but another form of possession. You and your council no longer have the authority as you have so claimed with your arrogance and entitlement attitudes over this Planet any longer. This Planet was never yours to begin with. It has all been a ruse perpetrated by your quest for domination.

In the name of the human race, your agenda will not succeed should you decide to implement the invasion that your council has been covertly stock piling here on Gaia. Your council doesn't tell you everything. You can keep us distracted with your wisdom, but if the question as to who knows anything that could possibly know of that, well let us see if your are truly full of wisdom or something else. Now that is what I call an innuendo.

And if I have to stand up and represent this Planet that your soul family has exploited, to claim the authority to denounce your council's agenda, then I so do so now. I will not sit here and have any more of my soul family sacrificed to your dinner plates. Your brethren have used us from the very begining and you are going to present your council in such a sweet light without first taking the responsibility to come here and set things right even though your guilt could fill a black hole. Your council does not or is not the true Royality of the Dragons that I am friends with. So you have no real authority here in this Universe. You never had. You only have fooled the fools. Nothing more.

You see there are guardians appointed by the God of this Universe with the Creator's blessings. That only report to the one. No council rules or governs over them. So there is no infiltration. The only reason why your soul family has made it this far is because of the Creator's grace.

If I didn't know from experience these things, I would probably be subscribing to your second hand information. Your talent is blazing and I sincerely mean that. But for the sake of my fellow humans, I want them to know that their souls are being played for by an old agenda that is now passed it's time. And I don't want to see them sacrificed for nothing as that has always been the end result of that agenda I have spoken about. I don't want to see my soul family continue down this road called "Boring" because of the selfish issues that have consumed your family for eons. What you also don't get is that I also don't want to see your family end up as Dragon butter either as I also know the potential of your family as the Creator had intended is still available to you through his grace. We humans are not responsible for the karmic pile your brethren have created. So that is why it is time for you or one of your superiors to come clean and take responsibility and convince your brethren that the road you continue to travel on is a DEAD end. Was that an innuendo? Because if you do I will tell you this, is that your Brethren will find yourselves all alone and will do through the habit of your past, repeat it, but this time you will be slicing and dicing each other. The reason why you will be left alone is because of what is going to happen in the Universe. You simply won't be able to keep up in terms of frequency.

And to further add to your situation and what appears your lack of knowledge pertaining to it, is what you once had is now gone. The real ones. What you think you have is not what it appears to be. So without that, your fate is once again sealed.

Mind you, I am not here to judge you. You hold your own mirror. But everyone should have a clue as to what you have with held from your audience. There is a code between Dragons and Humans, but it is not this code. This Thuban code is not the Royal one. So it has no real authority anywhere outside of your home planet.

I'll have to pass on your proposed course of Dragonhood. I don't have the stomach to digest a child served up on a plate.

If I can propose a question, I would like to ask when are you going to tell the real truth to your human audience? I am not saying that you have lied. But what I am talking about is what you haven't told them? This reminds me of the movie, "TO SERVE MAN."

Again Abrax, I came in peace and I am going to leave in one piece. Why? Because I can. I also bid you a good day my Dragon friend. Sincerely.

Lionhawk aka ....................?

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I don't pass through here often but felt compelled to thank you for your fine words Lionhawk....

And welcome back.

viking

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Hey ya'll --

I don't really think Abraxas needs any defense, BUT, having said that -- i would like to offer just one observation about LionHawk's recent posts: i sense much less of a "Love Vibration" than a "Fear Vibration" in your words, LionHawk. i DO appreciate your obvious sense of protectiveness for your human sisters and brothers, but "me thinks thou dost protest too much!"

if the ultimate test for each of us is how the information resonates in our spirit, then i have to say that Abraxas' posts have had much more resonance for me, LionHawk, than have your defensive diatribes.

in sisterly love,
hippihillbobbi

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Sounds like you are one in the 50,000 that was mentioned. Good for you. And if you think the ultimate test is about how the information resonates with you, I would reconsider. It's about your soul and the real test is to see if you can keep it. I have already said that Abrax has a great talent here, but for the most part he really hasn't said anything here that you can't find elsewhere. Except from this council that really has no credibility or authority over the human race. If you want to subscribe to something that has not been certified by the Creator and their Royal King, then I guess, you will be one of the ones in the food line. Their food line. The polarized topic of love and fear is a mute point as far as I am concerned. Because neither one of them will mean anything when your soul is ripped to shreds and used to control others. So if that is what your are defending without defending as you say, then all I have to say here is WHHOOOAAAAAAA!

Have a nice day! :thumb_yello:

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I have not posted to this thread in awhile...

and i am about to say...what many think...

i from day 1..i wanted abraxas to be banned.

i knew his intent from the first post..yet i lacked the ability to properly express my concerns. i watched as this thread grew...as mods gave him the open door...

it has disgusted me...it has created such negative energy...

it is a huge distraction that affects light warriors in a very negative way.

i bow to LionHawk..and offer my services in any way..to help bring clarity to this thread.


i know the mods are between a rock and a hard place with this thread and this member...

but i also know for a fact that his thread has affected negatively a few users...some more then others...

as for defending abraxas..you are right..he needs no defense...he wants no defense...he got what he wanted..YOUR attention...so he can further his agenda..

i am very grateful to the universe and its creator for sending someone to remove the veil that abraxas has put over so many eyes...

Thank You Lionhawk

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Okay, yes I can imagine most humans are not ready for dragonhood, although I would not mind riding the Luck Dragon from Never Ending Story, it would beat getting the plane.

Oooh, gee, I suppose it would take a PhD, a very intelligent person to come up with all this high esoteric stuff in this thread but the dragon stuff, look I will take my chances with the lions this time okay, if that means I am doomed to get ripped apart so be it, but I do have a few friends in very high places that look after souls, so on a soul level I won't be too perturbed about what happens to the 3D suit. The 3D suit is just temporary, the soul is eternal and tells us within a second what is right and wrong.

If people want to turn into dragons well they have free will to do so, I will take my chances with the other 49,999 thanks.

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Abraxas,
The plumed serpents have left their works in the lost civilizations around the planet with high knowledge of astrophysics. These beings kept in place a god worship dynamic using sentient energy. Can you explain the means of entrapping the soul beyond death creating reincarnation. Is it giving the soul what it believes as heaven, like a holadeck? Also how many times has this place gone through the precession of ages in the zodiac?

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Dear Cèline, dear avalonians, dear friends...

I highlighted, with a purpose, some excerpts from Cèline's post above, and I’ll make it short.

You know, as hard as I try to sentiment with the feelings from many of you here...

...so hard it is for me to accept the fact that...perpetual, on many ocations, many times...many of you seem to assume to know what's going on in the hearts of some other persons here...

Do you really know???

I tell you...despite my (by now more then 500) posts here, the answer is NO, you don't know...at least you obviously seem not to know me.

You don't know me...and as long as that veil is still put over the eyes of many, the many will miss to know me. I'm so sorry about this. I'm really sorry...then…


...I mentioned few times already, that this forum (as many other forums too) has it's own, natural rules. These rules are not manmade...but these rules depends on the level of your own vibrational energies.

If the energy patterns on this forum doesn't match (any more) with your energy patterns, the only logical consequence, sooner or later, would be a breakup.

Really, I don’t feel comformtable any more with the fact that, based only on assumptions, inner feelings, intuition...or whatever else, some tend to know what’s going on inside of my heart and therefore indirectly stamping over me with some labels!

Allow ME to say that I also feel some negative energy here...but not that one, that many of you speak about and many of you seem to have find it radiating from some avatars here.

But did I ever said that the one...or one...or one...should be banned???

So the logical consequence is...I will take a break.

I’m proud to have been a part of this group for so long time now...and I leave you behind in love and light.

Yeah, you read correct...in light...:thumb_yello:

You’ll allways be in my heart. Please know that I love you ALL.

Until some other time dear friends...I’ve come to an end here.

...btw...we all loose...there’re no winner here...

With much love and much respect
malletzky

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Maybe I must be one that just doesn't 'get it' ...

Exactly what are you Celine, Lionhawk, Transo, Viking, etc. so concerned about?

Who has he mislead? What has he mislead them to understand that you object to? That he calls himself a dragon or represents the Thuban Council or that Jesus is the Logos?

And you want him banned for that?

Talk about intolerance! I thought you were believers in free will? Or only free when someone 'speaks' the way you wish them to?

You all amaze me.

Not one of your answers has offered any deeper clue to the question of who we are in this universe or where we are going.

At least Abraxas has offered to reveal his 'hidden' information for our benefit, so he says. I don't know if he has altruistic motives or not and maybe he does want us to become 'stardust'.

I guess that the chance I take when I read his post but at least he is posting something of substance... whether you agree with him or not.

It makes not sense to come here and call him names or make claims that he is not who he claims to be because really, who are you?

What pedigree do you have that presupposes that I should listen to you anymore than I will listen to him? That's arrogance!

I believe that Abraxas has provided explanations to inquires made by the participants to this thread in a very thorough and thoughtful way.

Have you?

If any of you have the 'inside knowledge' or the 'universal secret' ... let us hear now, what you have to say?

We're all ears.

Peace

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Giving my "energy" to this thread probably makes me "entitled" to act "smart"....

I never felt anything wrong with this thread. I am not spiritually advanced (at least not by formal standards) but if something smells I mostly do smell it and stay away from it.

I also do not have any special abilities. I just recently had a very short lucid dream...the 1st or 1st I can remember...cant seem to have more..do not knot know how to....did not do anything special (or am not aware of it) before I had them...but would like to have more....anyway...I am "everyday" human...

But this here is the internet not "real" life. This thread smells just as good as most others here. There are more spices than one can usually find but at least the boiling has been kept to a minimum - something I like.

It is always interesting for me to read what it posted here... There is much I do not understand but I do try to keep it simple and try not to put energy into things that are either beyond my comprehension or ability to directly influence on....since most of the time I am putting way too much time to anything but myself...so I am participating here in this thread in attempt to learn more about myself.

Why? Because I am somehow able to see a sort of a "logic" in it (this is my understanding, someone else might see it differently).

Also each participant had his own way of contributing to this thread and Abraxasinas was/is kind enough to accommodate us all. I am sure that each person got a lot to think about...

I see no way how someone can force me into anything by either reading or participating in this thread. Also as far as my input was/is concerned - everything I do is/was/will be my choice and my responsibility (with one exception) I somehow actually like that.

Is there danger here? Compared to the majority of people (general population) knowing the contents of this thread is greatly more beneficial and less dangerous than knowing if Spice Girls will make a porno movie (that would made my day...but...) or knowing all the "positive" effects of USA stimulus or the financial problems of Greece...etc Anyone watching the TV news and blindly believing it is in a far more greater danger.

I also see no dragons swirling in our skies and also if they do come praying for some fresh meet...than it wont really matter if someone reads this thread or not... It is not like they will have a list of participants and skip all the rest... (yes this now is a poor attempt of a joke)

And before anyone mentions he or she will prevent it with the power of conscience...well than go and do it, what is stopping you?

I am yet to see a random person manifesting his thoughts into action in real time.

What I see here....and something like that also happened before...and it also happened in other threads...is what I see when I talk to other people for example about how economy is working...when I try to...step by step...A-Ž explain to hem how money is in control of everything they do in their life and how vastly different life could be....and some even go that far...to allow themselves to picture the unimaginable possibilities of their life without formal regulation and monetary control....some.... Most of them....are "skeptic" they react like some react here...they engage into "politely defensive" mode...and if you still poke them they tend to get somewhat sarcastic...what follows is anger... It is always a good idea to disengage while they are still "polite".

I was also just recently seeking reason and ways of destroying my soul...so it is not like I am afraid to take a risk....yes I can still get scared...but after participating in this thread I no longer seek to destroy my soul...

I do not know/understand who exactly Abraxasinas is and how does that look like...but if some day a dragon (or any other being) comes I will offer my hand in friendship and ask him/her for a ride (they do fly don't they?)

This is how I wish to see myself...as someone that would welcome anyone...weather "friend" or "foe"..... someday I just might be able to do that....

There is still a lot to do...but my energy reserves are getting lower...I am being drained daily by people "closest" to me...

But but but....what if dragon eats me? Than I will be eaten...and will become part of the dragon or will the dragon be a part of me? :)

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God is.
"Life is its own answer." R. Bradbury

If you want it in a parable;
God gave us all a Ferrari - maintenance free. Any time spent tinkering under the hood, just makes it slower.

Where are we going?
Why? Was there somewhere else you have to be? The where is an illusion, the magic is now.

From a previous post:

All of us have, within the course of this life, the innate ability to reach through and beyond all illusion, and directly touch the face of our creator. By "we" and "us" I mean all conscious life, in any form.

That creation is as perfect as its creator, always. Only we can put anything in the way of this, though it never truly exists. Any of it. Such is the nature and meaning of Maya (illusion). Our creator sees us eternally in the perfect form created, as this is all that truly exists.

The first "step away" was, and always is ours alone. Any forms of judgement, all complexity is simply complexity of illusion, for its own sake. Who creates it is irrelevant, who believes it, a tragedy.

A "complex" illusion is still just that. However many worlds, dimensions, levels, and times "needed", it always confuses me. We "need" nothing of this illusion, buying someone else's idea of our need, simply feeds both party's illusion.

Their "need" is also illusion, our fulfillment came at creation, as did theirs. Why deny that to yourself, or them, with subscription?

I also ceased to post here, because no one was listening.

I have asked, but people don't seem to get the question, so I'll be blunt. This time ask yourself:
Why are they here?

You see, it's the same "here" for everyone who finds themselves here. Here is both an illusion, and a condition. That is not finger pointing, it is simply acknowledging common ground.

Are you an inter-galactic presence, "gifted" upon this realm? Well, then neither is any other "dependent" being. They, like all of us "need" something here, and so begins a tale (or tail).

While there are those who may come and go from here, at will, they don't need anything here, other than to give. It's the giving that keeps them free.

"Hidden knowledge"? see "Giving". Then ask yourself who hid it, but I wouldn't dwell.

LionHawk, Celine;
Thank you, my friends.

Fred

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Sigh...I am very sorry to see you feel this way...i will attempt to respond..

First of all its Céline...and..i noticed you said "céline, friends and avalonians"...i guess i am not a friend nor an avalonian...but maybe that was not your intent...i tend to read things on an emotional basis, not an intellectual one...that is why i do not fit in to this thread i guess.

i understand the intent of your response, except for ...what the purpose was for highlighting certain things i said..(taking excerpts from sentences kinda takes away its intent)

"do you really know"

know what others feel? yes, some people.

"no you dont know"....so you are telling me..what i know? a little presumptuous imo

"you do not know me" You are right, i do not..and i NEVER said i do.

"veil"

i have always respected your post and feel you are very aware..and are not "veiled"

You speak of love...i fear you are judging me, without love in your heart..

We all have opinions...and we all use our judgment based on opinion...allow me mine please.

As for what i "know"..it is NOT based only on intuition..or avatars.

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i am quite insulted..and hurt.

i shared my position...

abrax knows full well how i feel...

perhaps im just an easy target for people far more intellectual then i...

sigh...

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You are most welcome Fred.


How eloquently you have described how i feel..

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Since the dawn of mankind the Dragon hated man.
Because man was made in the image of Creator, a being which will fully represent and understand Creator`s intention with all.
Dragon didn` t like that.

Since Dragon like to quote scriptures and is fond of deceiving other according to his premise , then remember Dragon that Word of God is two edged sword.
You were wounded before when you tested it against son of God.

There are few that can wield sword of Almighty.
It takes heart and soul ,it takes love,justice,wisdom and power.

What do you miss of above named ,Dragon?

You have power, and...?

Since Dragon dared to take that sword ,now Dragon will feel its weight:

Revelation 12:7-12


7.And there was war in heaven. Michael and his angels fought against the dragon, and the dragon and his angels fought back. 8.But he was not strong enough, and they lost their place in heaven. 9.The great dragon was hurled down—that ancient serpent called the devil, or Satan, who leads the whole world astray. He was hurled to the earth, and his angels with him.

10.Then I heard a loud voice in heaven say:
"Now have come the salvation and the power and the kingdom of our God,
and the authority of his Christ.
For the accuser of our brothers,
who accuses them before our God day and night,
has been hurled down.
11.They overcame him
by the blood of the Lamb
and by the word of their testimony;
they did not love their lives so much
as to shrink from death.
12.Therefore rejoice, you heavens
and you who dwell in them!
But woe to the earth and the sea,
because the devil has gone down to you!
He is filled with fury,
because he knows that his time is short."




Revelation 20:1-10

Revelation 20
The Thousand Years
1.And I saw an angel coming down out of heaven, having the key to the Abyss and holding in his hand a great chain. 2.He seized the dragon, that ancient serpent, who is the devil, or Satan, and bound him for a thousand years. 3.He threw him into the Abyss, and locked and sealed it over him, to keep him from deceiving the nations anymore until the thousand years were ended. After that, he must be set free for a short time.

4.I saw thrones on which were seated those who had been given authority to judge. And I saw the souls of those who had been beheaded because of their testimony for Jesus and because of the word of God. They had not worshiped the beast or his image and had not received his mark on their foreheads or their hands. They came to life and reigned with Christ a thousand years. 5(The rest of the dead did not come to life until the thousand years were ended.) This is the first resurrection. 6.Blessed and holy are those who have part in the first resurrection. The second death has no power over them, but they will be priests of God and of Christ and will reign with him for a thousand years.

7.When the thousand years are over, Satan will be released from his prison 8.and will go out to deceive the nations in the four corners of the earth—Gog and Magog—to gather them for battle. In number they are like the sand on the seashore. 9.They marched across the breadth of the earth and surrounded the camp of God's people, the city he loves. But fire came down from heaven and devoured them. 10.And the devil, who deceived them, was thrown into the lake of burning sulfur, where the beast and the false prophet had been thrown. They will be tormented day and night for ever and ever.

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Celine,

If I sounded harsh to you I apologize. I do not intend to inflict any pain on anyone here. I was confused as it didn't seem to me that you participated much in this thread so when I saw that suddenly you wished him banned... I didn't understand. (if there is something between you and Abraxas that I don't know about then I can't comment)

I'm sorry if I sounded rude to you.

Fred,

I recognize and respect your position but don't believe what you believe. I feel there is a 'purpose' for my existence beyond my existence.

My thoughts are creations unto themselves which become manifested in my 3D experience, so I seek to perfect my thought process so that I may create 'more perfectly' even as our father in heaven has created perfectly.

Listening to what other have to say gives me input, perspective and sometimes, knowledge. It is not a 'need' but an interest that I have as I am interested in what my brothers and sisters think.

Exposing myself to differing opinions forces me to look beyond the 'comfort zone' we all tend to gravitate too.

Besides as you say... I'm just an 'ole' fart' anyway... hehe

Peace

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Thank you...your words are appreciated

i do not post, anymore to this thread, because i found abrax's responses to me to be condescending and i felt ...stupid...trying to read this stuff..

the MODS were....."are" neutral...they (along with my husband) chose to allow his behavior to be what it is. His "phd" talk keeps people like me away...it is part of his agenda...

Intellectuals will argue that his stuff is "valid" and important...shrug...who am i to judge that?

Many may be upset...say that we are "being mean to abraxas" ...

Some will target me instead of LionHawk, because i am an easier target...

i dont care... i am worried about PA..about humanity... LionHawk seems to be the only one willing and able to stand up to all this...

i will not let another make me feel stupid, for long...so i stayed away from the thread...

Abraxas's love is not emotional..it is..technical...i want no part of it

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[My Reply as a Moderator]
The current stance for mods here is one of neutrality when it comes to inter personal issues between members. When it comes to threads/posts neutrality is not part of the equation as the guidelines dictate what can and cannot be posted.
At this time Abraxas is not breaking any guidelines but may be aiding in creating new ones.
As for your point Céline that his posts keeps you away. That is not a bad thing. :original:



[My comment as a member]
Abrax, the jig is up, for all to see. The Honorable thing to do is leave with dignity.
This thread and the topic is not what Avalon is about. I Have listened to many members complain that its content is a abomination to what PA stands for.


[My comment as a member of the Human race]
A few years ago I would of taken a totally different approach here and the world would of been better off. However, Avalon and Life experience since then has made me a better person. As such I can now turn my back on this thread and the verbal diarrhea herein.

[To my Beloved Céline]
Your love for the human race has never faltered and has over time changed my contempt for the species which has raped this planet. I have love and hope in my heart mostly because of you. This lizard and his followers do not deserve your attention. Their loss. dont waste anymore of your time and emotion here. it's rather pointless.
Love U:wub2:

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Not a bad thing i agree with you Richard.

but this is what i think IS a bad thing.

Why should i (or anyone ) continue to spread love and light on THIS forum...if i (we) feel the MODS and the guidelines on this forum do not protect us from insult or condescending remarks?

Sure its ok to share opinions...

including homophobic ones? racist ones? sexist ones?

Some here have been insulted and had to swallow it due to this "neutrality", and for the benefit of the whole, i and others have agreed with this behavior...and i still do...

but..

You cannot expect people to feel motivated to support your forum...if you do not support us.

i want to feel safe..unjudged and loved..do others here feel this way?

i ask the MODS and the founders...can i and others expect that at PA?

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As I have said, your and many other voices have been heard and listened to. There will soon be guidelines put in place to eliminate this type of behaviour. The love and light you and others spread here are inspirational to many many people myself included and will be nourished and developed to bring Avalon into the future we are building together.

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Your right Bigmo everyone is allowed to have their opinion as are Lionhawk, etc, so we have differing opinions on the information Abrax relays, well I thought we were allowed that here on this forum.

You do all know that this guy is a PhD in his related field (I forget what that is now), so I am presuming he either is channelling this information from Thuban or belongs to a certain group of people who have this information, whatever I have read enough and I know darn well he can come back with high esoteric information on everything and blast me out of the water if he wants.

I do believe in ascended masters one of them being Jesus, but in all my study of the esoteric over 20 years I haven't come across the 1 in 50,000 being good enough for dragonhood, that's a new one on me.

I suppose if you want to believe everything this guy is saying go ahead, you also have free will. It also only takes a second for me to check with my spirit and if spirit comes back and says I don't like that bit.....well then we know pretty quick.

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In my reply at 01-10-2010 / 05:19 AM, I already noticed that there was something fishy about the abraxasinas hype. It occured to me that abraxasinas was using a combination of boosting ego's & incredible knowledge. That was 100.000 views ago. Meanwhile I saw Celine (& many others) being dragged into this thread. And now, all of a sudden, that same Celine tells us that she wanted to see abraxasinas banned from day 1.

Quote:

I have not posted to this thread in awhile... and i am about to say...what many think... i from day 1..i wanted abraxas to be banned. i knew his intent from the first post..yet i lacked the ability to properly express my concerns. i watched as this thread grew...as mods gave him the open door... it has disgusted me...it has created such negative energy... it is a huge distraction that affects light warriors in a very negative way.

:nono:
That's not the way it works, darling.

If Lionhawk wouldn't have shared his knowledge about this topic with us, it would have taken ages for you to wake up out of this delusion.

This doesn't mean I do not respect you, abraxasinas. I am dazzled by your knowledge about a great many things & that really impressed me. I even suppose your intentions are sincere. But as I stated a 100.000 views ago, I didn't feel comfortable with your slip of the pen.

The way you replied on Lionhawk's post, I found appaling. I almost had the feeling there was another abraxasinas talking, actually.

That's why I replied in Dutch yesterday

Quote:

Ja, lekker dan, zo ken ik er nog wel een paar!

A kind of Dutch no Google translator can cope with, but a Draconian know-it-all would have understood for what it meant.

Than I noticed you were surfing merely around for at least an hour more, without a reply to my remark.

If you had the slightest bit of pride & honour in your soul, you would have given a reply - in Dutch - that would have been convincing to me, that you're for real.

:lol3: :tongue2: :thumbdown:

Peace, Love & Respect, Abraxasinas

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i think i understand what you mean...

i do not feel i was delusional... LionHawk gave me courage to say something...

i am intimidated by abraxas and a few others here.

i am not ashamed of feeling that way..dont get me wrong..it is who i am.

i am wide awake...