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sleepingnomore 11-20-2008 06:51 PM

Native American Prophecy in Cycle Times
Native American Prophecy in Cycle Times.
From various sources -- chiefly The Hopi Survival Kit by Thomas E. Mails & Chief Dan Evehema

"The time will come when from the earth will arise a mystic fog which will dilute the minds and hearts of all people. Their guidelines of wisdom and knowledge will falter, the Great Laws of our Creator will dissolve in the minds of people. Children will be out of control and will no longer obey the leaders, immorality and the competitive war of greed will flourish.
"When the end is near, we will see a halo of mist around the heavenly bodies. Four times it will appear around the sun as a warning that we must reform, telling us that people of all color must unite and arise for survival, and that we must uncover the causes of our dilemmas. Unless man-made weapons are used to strike first, peace will then come.

"So the time will come when we will experience late springs and early frosts, this will be the sign of the returning Ice Age.

"We believe militarism is born out of injustice, poverty and ignorance where absolute governments refuse to hear the grievances of minorities. So the people resort to violence, demonstrations and even terrorism when they see no other way to be heard. What can we do when our world leaders and the people are acting like fools in attempts to solve the problems confronting us? Once again we will quote the prophecy of our Elders. We hope it will interest you so that you will be more aware of it because it has been happening for some time.

"According to prophecy, the day will come when people in high places will be hunted. This will get out of control. The hunting will gather strength and spread. This situation might even erupt on our land. Finally, this will lead us to the Biblical version of Armageddon (the Hopi version is closely related). A final decisive battle between good and evil. This will occur under one God or Chief. The prophets say we will speak one language and that this will happen in Hopiland, in the village of Oraibi , where the new life plan will be drawn, in the pattern and cycle of religion. Here also a final decision will be made for the wicked. They will be beheaded and speak no more. If this does not materialize there will be a total destruction through the acts of man or nature. Then new life will begin from a girl and a boy. This is a frightening prophecy and will not be supported by many.

"It is in the prophecies of the Hopi that in a case like this the Navajo may help our cause. Also the Bahannas or the Paiute Tribe may help. We doubt that the U.S. Government will easily concede our sovereignty.

"There are two water serpents, one at each pole with a warrior sitting on his head and tail. These command nature to warn us by her activities that time is getting short, and we must correct ourselves. If we refuse to heed these warnings, the warriors will let go of the serpents; they will rise up, and all will perish.

"We are much concerned about the climate. No one seems to be able to predict the weather accurately from day to day. However, we know according to our time markers that it is past due for certain seeds to be planted at their proper time. In recent springs, we were reluctant to plant due to the late snow and cold weather. Once more maybe our ancient prophecy is right, that one day we will plant wearing finger sacks (gloves) clearing away snow with our feet before planting. The summers will become shorter for maturing the corn for harvest. The result is anybody's guess.

"The question is, will this occur the world over? This would depend on the geographical areas. In the regions with different climates, things will happen in different ways. For instance, tropical land could become a land of ice, and the Arctic region could become tropical. This need not happen if we, the people, get our leaders to do something about the harmful things being done to the environment.

"It is said that, if the future generations find out that we did nothing to preserve the good ways, they might throw us from our houses into the streets. This suffering will be of our own making. The lack of peace in our own spiritual being could trigger the revolution. Our True White Brother might come and find we have forsaken the sacred instructions. Then he will whip us without mercy.

"Let us take a look into the future through the eyes of our prophets. Hopi were instructed to tell of the Great Purification just ahead of a time when Humankind would once again become highly civilized, tending to become careless and leading us to self-destruction. They said that, along the way, the industrialized world will have certain problems. People will be uncomfortable because of the changing times, and they will have to make adjustments to find new life styles.

"Industrialized nations will become careless in getting more the resources out of the earth. Believing all these things will last forever, soon natural resources will be depleted. Fuel shortages will occur; industrial machinery will come to a standstill. The machinery used for planting, harvesting and transport will become useless. Supermarket shelves will become empty of farm produce. The farmers and those who grow their own food will not sell their produce. Money will become worthless. The white man with all his intelligence and technology will not be able to repair the damage. We will see extraordinary events in Nature and Earth, including humans.

"Modern man looks upon old wisdom and knowledge as dead, useless and no longer respected. Modern man depends on the money system and no longer on Mother Earth for food. According to prophecy when this happens Mother Earth will hide her nourishment because of the view that ancient food is poor man's food. When all food disappears, modern man will try to correct his mistake, the conditions he caused upon the earth through his inventions. He will try to achieve some kind of method to heal the wound, but this will not be possible when we reach the point of no return.

"The Hopi play a key role in the survival of the human race through their vital communion with the unseen forces that hold nature in balance. The pattern is simple: The whole world will shake and turn red and turn against those who are hindering the Hopi.

"This prophecy is related to the Biblical version of that which may yet come to pass. It goes on to say that common people will become concerned and frustrated because of their hectic world. They will be particularly against the bloodthirsty policies and the deceitfulness of the world leaders. The common people the world over will band together to fight for world peace. They will realize that their leaders have failed. People in high places will be hunted down like animals, perhaps through terrorism. In turn leaders will retaliate and begin hunting each other. This condition will gather strength and spread far and wide. It will get out of control the world over. Revolution could erupt on our land.

"The liberators will come in from the west with great force. They will drop down from the sky like rain. They will have no mercy. We must not get on the house tops to watch. They will shake us by our ears, like children who have been bad. This will be the final decisive battle between good and evil. This battle will cleanse the heart of people and restore our Mother Earth from illness, and the wicked will be gotten rid of. "If this fails to materialize, our Great Creator through nature will do the task according to their [sic] plans. It could be total destruction in any form. Only brother and sister will survive to begin a new way of life. This prophecy is frightening and doubtful. Perhaps it is of no value to most people.

"Eventually a gourd full of ashes would be invented, which, if dropped from the sky, would boil the oceans and burn the land causing nothing to grow for many years. This would be the sign for a certain Hopi to bring out the teachings in order to warn the world that the third and final event would happen soon and could bring an end to all life unless people correct themselves and their leaders in time.

"The final stage, called The Great Day of Purification, has been described as a Mystery Egg in which the forces of the Swastika and the Sun plus a third force symbolized by the color red culminate either in total rebirth or total annihilation; we don't know which. But the choice is yours; war and natural catastrophe may be involved. The degree of violence will be determined by the degree of inequity caused among the peoples of the world and in the balance of nature. In this crisis rich and poor will be forced to struggle as equals in order to survive.

"The reality that it will be very violent is now almost taken for granted among Traditional Hopi, but man still may lessen the violence by correcting his treatment of nature and fellow man. Ancient, spiritually based communities, such as the Hopi, must especially be preserved and not forced to abandon their wise way of life and the natural resources they have vowed to protect.

"The man-made system now destroying the Hopi is deeply involved in similar violations throughout the world. The devastating reversal predicted in the prophecies is part of the natural order. If those who thrive from that system, its money and its laws, can manage to stop destroying the Hopi then many may be able to survive the Day of Purification and enter a new age of peace. But if no one is left to continue the Hopi way, the hope for such an age is in vain.

"Since mankind has lost peace with one another through conflict due to the new ways, the Great Spirit, the Great Creator, has punished the people in many ways. Through all of this there was always a small group who survived to keep the original ways of life alive. This small group is comprised of those who adhere to the laws of the Creator, who keep the spiritual path open, out from the circle of evil. According to our knowledge we are not quite out of the circle.

"Now we enter the time of testing that only the Great Creator can confirm. The alignment of the planets, we were so kindly informed of by the star watchers has been awaited by the Hopi. As the time nears, the predicted behavior of the people accurately describes the behavior of people in the 1990's. When the end is near, we will see a halo of mist around the heavenly bodies. Four times it will appear around the sun as a warning that we MUST reform.

"Ambitious minds will decrease, while the people of good hearts, who live in harmony with the earth, will increase until the earth is rid of evil. If the Hopi are right, this will be accomplished and the earth will bloom again. The spiritual door is open. Why not join the righteous people? The Horny Toad Woman gave Massau'u a promise that she would help him in time of need, saying she too had a metal helmet. After the Hopi have fulfilled their pattern of life, Massau'u will be the leader, but not before, for He is the First and He shall be the Last."

These prophecies are very similar to the Kogi prophecy and reminds us to focus on the spiritual development and to be ready for anything. For more Hopi related prophecy see Morganas Observatory

sleepingnomore 11-20-2008 06:57 PM

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When the end is near, we will see a halo of mist around the heavenly bodies. Four times it will appear around the sun as a warning that we MUST reform.
This is a recurring vision I have been having and why I have posted this thread. The Kogi and Hopi place great significance with these signs and we must pay attention.

The link below shows the Total Solar Eclipses and pay attention to the 4th one.


Old Snake 11-21-2008 01:42 AM

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to all,
My name is Old Snake and I had the same dream, before Archie Fire Lamedeer mentionned the same , in a sweatlodge(Inipy),
Later on I read it in Tom Brown`s book.

I think this dream looks like an "international warning" that we are on the wrong way.

We have forgotten to live with and from the lands, manny of the worlds pop. believe in cash only, the latter is the killer ,walking in the open and no-one is willing to shoot the critter.

Now the whole downfall has started with Lehmann Bros coming down the first stone in a row that fell, .....against the next one,
and many to folow, and this will go on!

For many good reasons,our economy`s are blown up pranks, based on thin air, and based on the material greed and fear of the consumer,(when you donot wear or not have this or that, you are NOT ONE of US.

And it still works, HOW mad /idiots are we , to put on a shirt with the name of the suposed maker,(While made in Chinese sweatshops)

We the people made this all possible, maybe we had an itchy feeling walking around with an on the outsite branded shirt or suit,
but teh , one gets used to this.

Can we protest this,............... go ahead!

Can we do this in a wise and silent way? OH YES, swear to yoursel and by repetition that all that is advertised will never be on your shopping list.

Wich is an ultimate remedy ,against these companies and they will not even know who boycotts them.

So we work them out of this world in this manner ,and at this time it is verry easy, got my drift?

Now back to the dream, can such happen?, Yes it can, look into the universe and we see by the "Hubble EYE "very agressive things happening , OF Wich we understand still very,very little.

Is it really important, do I have to move etc?

Generally spoken NO , only when your environment is already under threat by rising waters, or by volcanic activity.

Remember we came to this life voluntarily, all, and meaning all of humanity.

Wether the red dream comes true, only the future can tell, we are not the judge of that.

Maybe in the afterlife, or in the spirit world we will understand.

Important? Yes and no, I as well as you we have our own responsibilities, and living them to the best we can is one point, and when you do not try to "sell" it to others, the others come to you and ask you why you have that kind of garden, why you do not wear a branded suit or whatever, besides that , you "prosper" more by having healthy food,a small windmill, a solar boiler,and good but not too expensive clothing, furniture to your personal liking instead of all advertised and by that alone too expensive and comon stuff.

Trends and mode, are the killers, Where are you as a person, do you want to have everything prescibed from craddle to grave.

I can assure you,it is quite "fashionable" to do away with the big and too expensive brands and look for more localy made stuff, you might even get some new friends.

So just make your life a positive one, in YOUR way, that makes a difference , and bigger than you yhink!

Yet might we get the red rain, all of us are in the boat, nearly no hiding possible, no point all matter is in my thinking just aknot in an for us humans andles sea of energy, so is my body and yours,
Our spirit is our lifeboat as ever before.

Do not be afraid to die,mostly it`s like laying off a too wet,heavy buffaloskin

Always follow your heart in what ever you do.

Ho mitakuye oyasin

Old Snake

no caste 11-22-2008 05:46 AM

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Thanks Old Snake. I read this last night and it helped. Been having lots of dreams about water.

sleepingnomore 11-22-2008 01:53 PM

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Old Snake,

You are wise and there is truth in your words that others do not want to hear.

"Do not be afraid to die, mostly it's like laying off a too wet buffalo skin" "Follow your heart"

This is my way, while I am here I will do everything in my power to change the illusion, but if I fail then I must accept it was not meant to be and wait for the next chance in the spiritworld.

I will not run, I am where I am meant to be, unless like you say the water rises or the volcano erupts. Then I will do what I must. I will not fear for I know that fear takes away my power.


munkey 11-22-2008 02:02 PM

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Originally Posted by sleepingnomore (Post 83911)
This is a recurring vision I have been having and why I have posted this thread. The Kogi and Hopi place great significance with these signs and we must pay attention.

The link below shows the Total Solar Eclipses and pay attention to the 4th one.


which one is the fourth one?
You have to help narrow my search down a bit there.

sleepingnomore 11-22-2008 02:32 PM

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Sorry here is the 4th eclipse of the greatest significance:


sleepingnomore 11-22-2008 02:34 PM

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Old Snake:

I found this which sums up everything you have said nicely:

I AM BUT A VISITOR IN THE LAND OF LIVING THINGS - The skin we wear is but a temporary robe. That part of us which is most important is the inner spirit, or the passion. Yet, we must never forget that we are guests in this land and we must conduct ourselves as such. We respect all that is here. That which we may receive in this place must be left here.. things cannot be taken with us, but all of our riches that we have accumulated in memories and knowledge shall go with us forever.

Mystic Pilgrim 11-24-2008 08:07 PM

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Originally Posted by sleepingnomore (Post 85064)

Sorry here is the 4th eclipse of the greatest significance:



Sleepingnomore, my understanding is that it was an alignment of the planets, not a total eclipse, that would signify the end times. Am I right?

So my next question is, when is the next planetary alignment in our solar system?

sleepingnomore 11-24-2008 08:44 PM

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There is much information out there. The alignment of the planets is one of the signs the Native Americans were looking for to signal the preparation of things to come according to their prophecies. The solar eclipses were another. I don't know anymore than anyone else what is to come, but I know to pay attention to the signs. The rest will be revealed to us, of that I am positive.

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