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Anchor 02-09-2010 03:41 AM

Martial Arts - Have you trained or not?
 
I read in another thread about Martial Arts and it set me thinking I wonder how many people on this forum have martial arts training? (I'd guess quite a few).

In my case several years of Wu Shu Kwan Kung Fu - I blame David Carradine and the TV series Kung Fu in the 70's for that little diversion ;) I learned it before the UK had all the martial arts registered and licensed by the "Martial Arts Commission". I decided not to do the blackbelt grading (even though I was ready) because I didn't want to go on the black belt register.

There has always been a strong link between sprituality and martial arts in my experience.

Please take the pop quiz and discuss.

A..

TRANCOSO 02-09-2010 03:51 AM

Re: Martial Arts - Have you trained or not?
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Anchor (Post 235585)
I read in another thread about Martial Arts and it set me thinking I wonder how many people on this forum have martial arts training? (I'd guess quite a few).

In my case several years of Wu Shu Kwan Kung Fu - I blame David Carradine and the TV series Kung Fu in the 70's for that little diversion ;) I learned it before the UK had all the martial arts registered and licensed by the "Martial Arts Commission". I decided not to do the blackbelt grading (even though I was ready) because I didn't want to go on the black belt register.

There has always been a strong link between sprituality and martial arts in my experience.

Please take the pop quiz and discuss.

A..

That's new to me. Why is that?

Anchor 02-09-2010 03:54 AM

Re: Martial Arts - Have you trained or not?
 
Im from the UK. One day (in the 1980's) we were all given forms that we had to sign and send in to get our little MAC cards. I dont know why. I dont know if it is current practise still.

In the UK, if you were on the black belt-register, theoretically you could be more likely to be held to be an offensive weapon rather than just brawling. Not that I ever did that, but I didn't like the idea that one day I could be defending myself, the next moment finding myself being prosecuted for attempted murder just because I punched some lowlife into hospital ;) [1]

A..

[1] This characterizes the way I used to think - not how I think/behave today. I did eventually grow-up.... a bit.

raulduke 02-09-2010 05:40 AM

Re: Martial Arts - Have you trained or not?
 
Cool thread Anchor. I'm interested to see the results of the poll too.

I started "rolling" brazillian jiu-jitsu a awhile ago. I earned my blue belt under 10th planet no gi jiu-jitsu within about 10 months, but unfortunately had to leave that gym after moving. I've been bouncing around a few mixed martial arts gyms for awhile now but I'm hoping to return to 10th planet soon to demonstrate for my purple belt.

I've learned a few different disciplines on the periphery; boxing, muay thai, vale tudo, but the striking martial arts never interested me as much as grappling and jiu-jitsu. Even though I'm a fairly big guy, I always liked the idea of a defensive martial art that can negate size, and most street fights aren't exactly boxing matches with the kingsbury rules! If you're in a street fight with a jiu-jitsu player and have no grappling or submission experience, you'll likey be asleep in a very short time.

That said, most of the people I've met in mma gyms, the serious guys, are the very least provocable. They're the absolute last ones to engage in any "street" physical confrontation and even then it's as minimal as possible. There is indeed a spiritual aspect involved that I've personally benefited from. Respect is huge, not just for people but for the art.

stal 02-09-2010 06:01 AM

Re: Martial Arts - Have you trained or not?
 
i've learnt bits and pieces of different styles since i was about 5 years old. always wished i'd done more grappling though.

TRANCOSO 02-09-2010 06:06 AM

Re: Martial Arts - Have you trained or not?
 
My style is Wado Kai, which is a defensive 'no contact' form of karate. 'No contact' is actually more difficult than 'full contact'.
I've learned to recognize trouble from miles away, and how to avoid it. But if in doubt, knock 'm out.
And always strike first.
Knee caps, or in the worst possible scenario, the eyes.

I've used my skills once, and I must admit, it's the best adrinaline rush I've ever felt.

Peace! :naughty:

Shaynard 02-09-2010 07:58 AM

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~Be water my friend~

This meant much more than the physical ideas.


The connection between Martial Arts and spirituality can be no different than becoming some sort of "minister" for a Religious group. If you're doing it correctly, and from your heart.. You will find much more than health and skills to defend yourself with.


In light, of love
Shaynard

lucrum 02-09-2010 08:00 AM

Re: Martial Arts - Have you trained or not?
 
I trained Tae Kwon Do for a while when younger, for a couple of years until I hurt myself (in a seperate event) and had to quit for a while. During that time my club went under.

Later I had a visit to Brazilian Jiu Jitsu, but only for a few months. I had increasing troubles with my ancle, so I had to stop doing much at all.

Would love to do something like that again, but it means I will have to travel to be able to. There is nowhere to train around here now.

john-d 02-09-2010 09:07 AM

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Yeah , i did jeet kon do , Brazilian Jiu Jitsu and mma for a few years . Cagefighting was a passion of mine for quite a while . Im a fluffy bunny now though with a very different outlook thanks to the 'Ra material' :original:

Swanny 02-09-2010 09:19 AM

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Check this out

Chi Kung


TRANCOSO 02-09-2010 09:25 AM

Re: Martial Arts - Have you trained or not?
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by john-d (Post 235652)
Yeah , i did jeet kon do , Brazilian Jiu Jitsu and mma for a few years . Cagefighting was a passion of mine for quite a while . Im a fluffy bunny now though with a very different outlook thanks to the 'Ra material' :original:

Who taught you Jeet Kun Do? This Kung Fu/Tai Chi style, developed by Bruce Lee, is very rare & practiced by few.
And what is Brazilian Jiu Jitsu? A mix of Capuera & Japanese Jiu Jitsu, perhaps?

Greetings 02-09-2010 09:34 AM

Re: Martial Arts - Have you trained or not?
 
I did Tae Kwon Do when i was younger, but can't say i remember much to use instinctually.


I did take Judo when i was in college a couple years ago, and that definitely broke some barriers for me.

After that I got really serious on the "route sending" rock climbing scene, and watched my body transform before me.

I now practice Qigong sets and work with energy flow + ashtanga vinyassa yoga - but im kinda just going at my own pace. I'd like to see what i'm capable of in a spar now.

Overall, I'd have to give it to the climbing/Movement meditation (Qigung) - it changed how i operate my body, from such a simple thing as grabbing a door handle or using a fork.

I also play piano, and with my resignation in the party-play business (ever seen eyes wide shut?) i've come to think ive got some deadly hands if it ever came to it.:zip:

gita 02-09-2010 09:38 AM

Re: Martial Arts - Have you trained or not?
 
I trained in kickboxing which also incorporated wrestling, Kung Fu, jiu-jitsu, thai, Tae Kwon Do... It was hard going but the skills stay with you for a life time. My sensei also trained us in Kukri and Japanese swords which were my favourite. I got my daughter into training since she was four years old and now she’s twelve and is a first dan. Here’s a youtube vid of her. She’s the taller one and sparing with a boy.


Anchor 02-09-2010 09:38 AM

Re: Martial Arts - Have you trained or not?
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by TRANCOSO (Post 235656)
Who taught you Jeet Kun Do? This Kung Fu/Tai Chi style, developed by Bruce Lee, is very rare & practiced by few.
And what is Brazilian Jiu Jitsu? A mix of Capuera & Japanese Jiu Jitsu, perhaps?

Brazillian Jiu Jitsu seems to be quite popular in Australia - it is the Jiu Jitsu made famous by the Gracie family - derivative of Japanese style ground fighting experts.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Brazilian_Jiu-Jitsu

Steve_A 02-09-2010 09:46 AM

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Hi Anchor,

I trained traditional Kung Fu (Shaolin do Norte) for four years. I took time out and I'm back in the gym to get me back up to strength (or trying to!) so I can get back in the saddle so's to speak.

Best regards,

Steve



Quote:

Originally Posted by Anchor (Post 235585)
I read in another thread about Martial Arts and it set me thinking I wonder how many people on this forum have martial arts training? (I'd guess quite a few).

In my case several years of Wu Shu Kwan Kung Fu - I blame David Carradine and the TV series Kung Fu in the 70's for that little diversion ;) I learned it before the UK had all the martial arts registered and licensed by the "Martial Arts Commission". I decided not to do the blackbelt grading (even though I was ready) because I didn't want to go on the black belt register.

There has always been a strong link between sprituality and martial arts in my experience.

Please take the pop quiz and discuss.

A..


Malletzky 02-09-2010 09:53 AM

Re: Martial Arts - Have you trained or not?
 
I have trained carate in my youth (I was 8-12 years old, one of the youngest brownbelt carrier back then) and even if I wanted to do the blackbelt grading (my coach said I was ready), I wasn't allowed to, as I wasn't 14 years old (don't ask me why, they told me this and I had to accept).

So I decided to quit and I almost :tears: became a professional football (soccer) player...

But, what left from these early years of training is really an astonishing body coordination, which helps me a lot thru my life...

malletzky

Kulapops 02-09-2010 09:53 AM

Re: Martial Arts - Have you trained or not?
 
Hi Anchor,

yes, for me, it's Tai chi (why of course!... check out my Avatar :original:)


I practice the Lee Family style, which is a bit different to the more popular Yang style.

I love it. Some say it's the ultimate martial art (Tai chi means 'supreme ultimate'... although it's also the name for what we also call the yin-yang symbol). I think the video below proves this...


gita 02-09-2010 09:59 AM

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Kula you is so funny man. :roll1::roll1::roll1::roftl::roftl::lmao::lmao::ro ll1::roll1:

es7ter 02-09-2010 10:16 AM

Re: Martial Arts - Have you trained or not?
 
1 week of Judo at age 12. No kidding. Too funny even to mention it. I was the fattest kid in the whole class. You can imagine it was a train going nowhere fast.
It would be good to get some training, but I would much prefer fencing and archery, these two I’ve been contemplating taking up. Mix it with horse riding and I am a modern day heroine in the making.
Much respect to all of you my fellow Avalonians, great subject! Thanks for having me here.

raulduke 02-09-2010 10:34 AM

Re: Martial Arts - Have you trained or not?
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Anchor (Post 235662)
Brazillian Jiu Jitsu seems to be quite popular in Australia - it is the Jiu Jitsu made famous by the Gracie family - derivative of Japanese style ground fighting experts.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Brazilian_Jiu-Jitsu

Yeah it's starting to get some attention here in the states as well. Brazillian jiu-jitsu as I understand it was adapted from the Japanese style to be more aggressive. The Gracie family took it leaps and bounds in the early 90's creating the ufc, and we found out how all these styles actually compared in real practice for the first time in who knows how many years, and as a result alot of very old martial arts have evolved extremely quickly in a short period of time relative to their existance. It was Royce Gracie that won the first tournament though so bjj was top dog early on, although now the wrestlers seem to have the upper hand.

The Gracies took jj pretty far, but the switch to no-gi, I believe happened in America. Taking some of the older guys outta their gi, they couldn't pull off alot of their moves, especially chokes. The no gi style is even more aggressive especially on one's back, always attacking limbs or looking for sweeps.

Here's an awesome grappling match between underdog Eddie Bravo (no shirt) and highly touted Royler Gracie at the Abu Dhabi Combat Club. This is a non-stop 9 minute battle with like 500 gaurd passes and recoveries. Incerdible finish as well, a beautiful triangle.



That was the creation of 10th planet jj (:lol3: yup it means nibiru!), and Eddie Bravo's super aggressive style of jj.

john-d 02-09-2010 10:36 AM

Re: Martial Arts - Have you trained or not?
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by TRANCOSO (Post 235656)
Who taught you Jeet Kun Do? This Kung Fu/Tai Chi style, developed by Bruce Lee, is very rare & practiced by few.
And what is Brazilian Jiu Jitsu? A mix of Capuera & Japanese Jiu Jitsu, perhaps?

I know its rare and a mixture of a few different disciplines , it was a school in coventry in the uk . The instructor was Mark Junday who is very talented indeed . The Brazilian Jiu Jitsu is widely used in mma mainly for ground work , the techniques are simple but very effective . I think Brazilian Jiu Jitsu and Japanese Jiu Jitsu are different although i cant say for sure because ive never studied the japenese style .
John

Ammit 02-09-2010 10:59 AM

Re: Martial Arts - Have you trained or not?
 
I trained Judo, Karate(shoto kahn), jujitsu and was trained by an ex army trainer & world Judo champion guerilla warfare unarmed combat to a certain degree.

Never used it, never plan to as I find a good piece of 3"x3" works just as well, I cant get my leg that high now anyway...

Luminari 02-09-2010 11:42 AM

Re: Martial Arts - Have you trained or not?
 
Hi Anchor, yes Aikido a bit here and there for the last 20 years..

Its purely defensive and quite spiritual in orientation.

My father is an instructor.. so I do training with him and my brothers more often now that I live closer to them.

I recommend it to anyone.

Stargazer1965 02-09-2010 11:46 AM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by gita (Post 235661)
I trained in kickboxing which also incorporated wrestling, Kung Fu, jiu-jitsu, thai, Tae Kwon Do... It was hard going but the skills stay with you for a life time. My sensei also trained us in Kukri and Japanese swords which were my favourite. I got my daughter into training since she was four years old and now she’s twelve and is a first dan. Here’s a youtube vid of her. She’s the taller one and sparing with a boy.


Boy...he was outclassed....:original:

Luminari 02-09-2010 11:47 AM

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Oh and I am actually beginning a QI GONG course next week!

Though that hardly rates as a martial art- maybe if I send a love energy blast to my adversary and they collapse in an orgasmic puddle of bliss. :lol3:

Who knows.. if Kunlun Nei Gung is anything to go by.

Stargazer1965 02-09-2010 11:49 AM

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Aerobic kick boxing trainer....not real martial arts but it brought the "evenness" that I always lacked.

I'd did 6 classes a week for 3 hours a night.

Best shape I was ever in.

Peace

Luminari 02-09-2010 11:52 AM

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http://i717.photobucket.com/albums/w...009/aikido.jpg

gita 02-09-2010 11:55 AM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Stargazer1965 (Post 235709)
Boy...he was outclassed....:original:

She's pretty good but her problem is that she's so darn lazy and can't be bothered to put in the extra effort - drives me nuts. Her sensei wants to put her in competitions but she's not that way inclined which I find quiet refreshing - plus she says that if she ever gets in a ring she probably get her **** kicked - that's my gal!:lol3:

Steven 02-09-2010 02:59 PM

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I began Martial Arts with shaolin Kung Fu for about 5-6 years. Then trained in Brazil 4 years Brasilian Jiu-jitsu, since then I keep training Jiu-jitsu, but on and off since the birth of my kids. It's been over 20 years now and still have the passion for the do-jo.

I tasted a bit of Shintaido, created by master Aoki in Japan, amazing man.

Namaste, Steven

Steven 02-09-2010 03:03 PM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by john-d (Post 235688)
...I think Brazilian Jiu Jitsu and Japanese Jiu Jitsu are different although i cant say for sure because ive never studied the japenese style...

Yes, they are different. The Gracie familly largely adapted japanese jiu-jitsu for street fighting. Even now in Brasil, there is two different school of jiu-jitsu. The Gracie technic and the southern newer form which have detached from the Gracie familly.

What we know as UFC existe since almost 100 years in Brasil called 'Vale Tudo'. The Gracie have adapted the japanese jiu-jitsu for this kind of fight.

Namaste, Steven

Steven 02-09-2010 03:27 PM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by raulduke (Post 235613)
...If you're in a street fight with a jiu-jitsu player and have no grappling or submission experience, you'll likey be asleep in a very short time...

:lol3: Maybe I shouldnt mention it here, but I know what you are talking about, because I did it, twice, legitimate defense.

Namaste, Steven

Peace of mind 02-09-2010 05:00 PM

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I grew up learning Tai chi, boxing and some Capoeira. Tai Chi is my favorite, especially the discipline and the principles of oneness with nature. Hope I will never have to use what I learned in self defense.

Peace

Shaynard 02-09-2010 05:01 PM

Re: Martial Arts - Have you trained or not?
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Luminari (Post 235708)
Hi Anchor, yes Aikido a bit here and there for the last 20 years..

Its purely defensive and quite spiritual in orientation.

.

One of my favorite arts right there. I have had the pleasure of meeting and training with many "famous" martial artists and teachers. While training in several arts. Aikido is one of my personal favorites. I really love the gui.

There is a lot more Jeet Kune Do being taught than most hear about. It is tricky however as many read the Tao and believe they know the art. It really is much more of a philosophy than a style. I prefer to call it the anti-style. It is efficient. A blend of the spirit and the body and the mind in perfect motion. (Not to say others are not, at all)

Thank you for this thread Anchor.. I was curious as well. :)

In light, of love
Shaynard

Mercuriel 02-09-2010 05:29 PM

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Yi Dan (2nd Degree) in WTF Tae Kwon Do...

Cho Dan (1st Degree) in Hapkido

Nidan (1st Degree) in Shotokan Karate...

Qinghu Si Duan : Blue Tiger (4th Degree) in Southern Hung Gar Tiger Claw Gung/Kung Fu...

Ex-MIL too...

:wink2:

TRANCOSO 02-09-2010 05:56 PM

Re: Martial Arts - Have you trained or not?
 
Black belt Wado Kai karate
Master degree Tai Ming

Firstlook 02-09-2010 07:16 PM

Re: Martial Arts - Have you trained or not?
 
The only Martial Arts training I had was when I was 12, in a Youth center program. I think it was only for a couple of months and nothing really serious. I do remember being told that it was for the benefit of all us angry kids.:wall: I think it was a good idea. But alot of the parents got mad at the councilors for teaching us to be better "fighters". :lol3: Of course that wasn't really what it was about.

I'd like to get into it eventually. I need alot of stretching though.


peace:original:

lucrum 02-09-2010 07:44 PM

Re: Martial Arts - Have you trained or not?
 
To be honest, back when I was training Tae Kwon Do my trainer told us something that really stuck: "We do not train Tae Kwon Do to learn how to fight, we train it to learn how not to fight"

If I am to train any form of martial arts, I require the club to be of a non-violent nature. There have been a few Karate clubs around here that have been promoting a tough guy image and teaching fairly young kids all sorts of ways to injure another human being.

In my mind, first rule of fighting is avoiding the fight alltogether. Even running away is better than actually fighting, if at all possible. You avoid injuring someone or being injured yourself.

Firstlook 02-09-2010 07:48 PM

Re: Martial Arts - Have you trained or not?
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by lucrum (Post 235956)
To be honest, back when I was training Tae Kwon Do my trainer told us something that really stuck: "We do not train Tae Kwon Do to learn how to fight, we train it to learn how not to fight"

If I am to train any form of martial arts, I require the club to be of a non-violent nature. There have been a few Karate clubs around here that have been promoting a tough guy image and teaching fairly young kids all sorts of ways to injure another human being.

In my mind, first rule of fighting is avoiding the fight alltogether. Even running away is better than actually fighting, if at all possible. You avoid injuring someone or being injured yourself.

Right. Thats the general Idea as far as I see it.


peace:original:

Mercuriel 02-09-2010 08:03 PM

Re: Martial Arts - Have you trained or not?
 
Yes - It is this fact - That You are an expert in the Martial Arts that You can or should be able to avoid most Violence...

The Art of Not-Fighting.

It is Not-Fighting as the Practitioner should be able to carry Himself/Herself in such a manner that a Confrontation is not necessary.

Those that Confront are Fighters - Not Martial Artists. They only start Fights because They have no way to deal with issues other than Violence or Intimidation.

Many of You already know this but the True Martial Artist is balanced and walks from a Fight as there is no need to Fight. They only Fight when provoked to do so and even then - They use the Attackers' own Strengths against Them by Defending from Blows the Attacker levies against Them.

:thumb_yello:

Quote:

It is like a Finger pointing its way to the Moon. Concentrate on the Finger and You will miss all the Heavenly Glory...

One must be as Water. Water Flows over everything. It is Gentle - It is soothing - It can erode Granite and is the most Fluid Force in the World. Be Water My Friend...

:winksmiley02:

My Sifu used to say - "Fighters start Fights - Martial Artists end Them"...

futureyes 02-09-2010 08:17 PM

Re: Martial Arts - Have you trained or not?
 
a few years of tae kwon do ... that was back when and i'm not certain i'd remember any of it now ...

well ... i guess if i was in a nasty predicament ... i'd probably remember some thing pretty darn quick if i had to :shocked:

one thing i do remember are the same words you were told lucrum ...
"We do not train Tae Kwon Do to learn how to fight, we train it to learn how not to fight" ...

some words just never escape us ...

:wub2:




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