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Northern Boy 09-20-2009 02:55 PM

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Just found out today that a special guest speaker is supposed to present later today so if there are any Alex Collier fans here like me he goes on at 11:30 AM their time so for those in the eastern time zone 2:30 PM

http://www.ustream.tv/channel/project-camelot

Northern Boy 09-20-2009 07:44 PM

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Alex just finished another outstanding lecture from him it is time as he says to get ready for what comes our way . You can do it however you like but get ready the vaccine as he says is meant to permanently damage our DNA . He says all we need to do is ask ourselves what are they so afraid of that they must resort to these type of steps . If you can go view it

morem 09-20-2009 08:02 PM

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I have to say I had watched some of Alex's video on you tube. I was a little bit skeptical at the time and it was like two years since then. Truthfully some of it creep me out and well scared me. :nono:
Today watching the conference via life stream, I was quite interested and glued to my seat watching the whole thing. I really need to catch up on more of his information I think is worth looking into. I like that idea about mentoring between ets and humans.

Kudos to Project Camelot for streaming all of it. Those who missed it was great. There is still time to catch Maxwell Jorden and David Wilcox.

Swanny 09-20-2009 08:49 PM

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I'm sure someone will put this stuff on youtube etc :original:

happyhollergal 09-20-2009 08:55 PM

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I watched Marcia Shafer and Bob Dean last night, and am about to go watch Alex Collier now. There's a place on that site where you can view the ones who've already presented.

LightSurfer 09-20-2009 09:03 PM

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The live streaming is alright, but the problem is the chat section. I've been reading about what listeners are saying while watching and it's just silly :wall:

It is possible to watch the presentations that have already happened, but it keeps freezing all the time even tho I have a good internet connection. I'll just wait for a youtube release.

I wish i'd be there in person, Awesome conference, Thank you

LightSurfer

happyhollergal 09-20-2009 09:04 PM

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http://www.ustream.tv/recorded/2197767
Swanny, if you can't get it on the other link, try this one.

Swanny 09-20-2009 09:23 PM

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Thx Happy :original:
Some right twats in the chat room. :thumbdown:

Wish I was there I would ask them a few questions like... Why dont you tell us what you know :sneaky2:

happyhollergal 09-20-2009 09:36 PM

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Yep, there's a rude bunch of folks in the chat part, so I decided to ignore that and just listen while the window is minimized as I listen to Alex. I have my yahoo messenger running if anyone wants to holler at me during the presentation. Otherwise, I'll be back in about an hour and a half after he finishes speaking.

LightSurfer 09-20-2009 09:45 PM

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we should all meet in the Avalon Chat !!!

LS

http://projectavalon.2012info.ca/

happyhollergal 09-20-2009 09:59 PM

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I signed in to the chat, but it doesn't work well for me.

Swanny 09-20-2009 10:12 PM

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I dont trust the chat thing above

LightSurfer 09-20-2009 10:31 PM

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Hey swanny and HappyHollergal, I'm on the chat but there's not much action there...or maybe it just don't work...do you guys suggest somewhere else:original:

LS

anyway Jordan is on...

flynt144 09-20-2009 11:34 PM

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Alex Collier video has blown me away. :lightsabre:


http://www.projectavalon.net/forum/s...t=Alex+Collier

mntruthseeker 09-21-2009 01:02 AM

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Alex collier always blows me away. The first time I heard him, I think I denied it all and I kept searching. He explains things very well and I do believe he is most honorable in telling us all. It has to be hard being the father of 5, I think nothing of good for him and his family

I haven't listened to any of the other speakers yet as I was finally getting around to finsihing up Cliff High on the Veritas show. Now he just made it worth every penny ( which is not much) of my subscription to the show.

A very good interview to say the least. Both of these men gave me high hopes and a push to move forward with the plan I need to work on

Northern Boy 09-21-2009 12:52 PM

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I watched most of the Conference and was impressed with the speakers that i saw Richard Dolan who I`d never seen before was excellent as was Bob, Alex, Jordan and even David who I don`t particularly listen to for my own reasons was entertaining . All in all very informative and entertaining Conference . Good Job

333mark333 09-21-2009 12:54 PM

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:thumb_yello:

happyhollergal 09-21-2009 03:24 PM

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I stayed awake until 5 AM watching George Green at the conference. He is so full of energy and information, I could hardly absorb one thing before he moved into something else. That isn't intended to be critical of him, not at all. He just had so much to say and a limited amount of time to say it in. I did sense the urgency that he was trying to express, the immediate scene that he sees happening with the crash of the dollar, change-over to a world currency, financial collapse. He recommended for those of us who do use dollars to only hold on to 20, 10, 5 and 1 dollar bills, but said that the exchange rate when we flip to the other monetary system will be something like 6 to 1. So does that mean that by switching to the new money, the banksters get to rob us out in the open with a grin on their greedy faces?? I have never read his books, but after the presentation, I did download Handbook For The New Paradigm and Messages For The Ground Crew. A year ago when I first saw his Camelot interview, I thought of him as a wealthy banker/investor who didn't have a clue what average struggling people have to deal with just to get by, so I completely dismissed him. I now see him through different eyes, and feel that I have a calling to become one of the ground crew. An old saying comes to mind; "Sometimes Quickly, Sometimes Slowly".

I haven't yet seen Duncan O, Jordan Maxwell or David Wilcock, but I plan to today if I can find those. If anyone has links to those, I surely would appreciate them.

Baron 09-21-2009 07:36 PM

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(1) Ok right onto the conference speakers, firstly George Green and his presentation! Why and how is this person still being dragged out? We who have been following this stuff for years before the net and its early years,we were glad George and his ilk were finally fading away as they had been found out! Yes I'm sure he's a good friend to Bill & Kerry and others and a nice guy. But he's just repeating other people's work and what he's made up out of his own imagination!

I'm going to pull out one statement he said at the conference that is total BS he does NOT know what the hell he's talking about. He stated that the earth is now being bombarded with cosmic rays (yes that's true check any astronomical website it will tell you so) however he goes on to tell you that these cosmic rays give off NEGATIVE IONS that are really dangerous for us because they make us depressed ill melancholic suicidal and sick etc!

What complete bunkum let me say that again what complete bunkum he speaks!

NEGATIVE IONS are good for us they make us feel good these things are released during thunderstorms or when you are near waterfalls or in green tree woodlands. There are machines you can buy that give off negative ions they help to kill off bacteria and clean the air and ionize the air so you breath cleaner fresher air and just generally feel good.

So George Green stop talking rot! And don't BS your way out of this argument with something like these cosmic negative ions are in fact positive deadly instead or some other waffle.


(2) I enjoyed listening Miriam Delicado and I thought she was interesting and spoke well, even though I had a few questions.She was much better than I would have thought.

(3) Richard Dolan wow! He was much better than I have ever heard him especially with the quality rational of his subject and his analysis this was his best yet for me and now I would like tol buy his book.


(4) Alex Collier! real name Ralph Amagran? or Amagrant? Interesting that he's been dug out of the woodwork again. Over all he speaks well yet like I had heard him years ago when he was Ralph! I had reservations about what he said not because it may well be true but from where he got this information.I think its more earthly than contact from Andromeda!

I wont bother with all he said as its all been said before and others have been covering it even before he made a splash in 1993. Though I will cover something that I feel is very relevant and that is his physical condition!

He is now grossly obese he's gone passed being called fat. Now this is not being mean, this is a fact and it needs to be addressed, if he is in contact with these very special beings who are mentoring him why have they not tried to help him help himself with his obese weight and poor eyesight?

Why is he so vain that he dyes his hair at his age when he really does not have any, and goes to the trouble of that stupid hair comb over cover that's only comparable to Donald Trumps ridicules comb over! Surely being in that condition is not conductive to being spiritually aware and enlightened?

Vain with his hair but not with his excessive weight! Or is he piling on the pounds because he's prepared for a shortage of food soon so he can live on what he's piled on perhaps?

What was that Ralph? I mean Alex? K ? K? K? K? Yeah Alex what's with this K? thing? You speak well and then sound like some rapper with K? Say the full word if you must its only one letter more OK?!! Though I know what you are doing,its called salesmanship getting others to confirm what you are saying so they agree subconsciously and also giving yourself time to think of stuff to say.

Plus you really did give yourself and sadly those other whistle-blowers the tool of words or excuse they need why they don't fully whistle-blow all they know,when they are suppose to like Pete Peterson and Arthur Neumann, frauds both!

That is they don't want to shock all at once and pre-fair to let it seep out bit by bit so they can give themselves a COMFORT zone! Oh you can see them all using this excuse in the near future or words to that affect! This will soon be repeated all thanks to you! You are too clever by far for the average fool looking for enlightenment.You'll have them all in your hand except perhaps those who you don't answer, because you cannot bring yourself to make up another lie, so you don't answer some questions! That's handy!

Though I will give you some top marks for wearing a suit you looked "that" part.

(5) UPDATE! Alfred Webre what can one say total nonsense he made it up as he went, he was not even confident in what he was saying! I'm not even sure he knew what he was talking about!

Now I'm off to listen to Marcia Shafer,Duncan O'Finioan and David Wilcox who I missed because the broadcast just stopped when they were live.

Bill and Kerry if they sold out the conference 800 seats for both days at $150 they should have raked in $120.000 dollars well done.

Karen 09-21-2009 09:08 PM

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Originally Posted by Baron (Post 170647)
Bill and Kerry if they sold out the conference 800 seats for both days at $150 they should have raked in $120.000 dollars well done.

I heard Kerry say 300 in attendance.
And not one person showed up because of the expensive LA newspaper ad.

300 x $150 = $45,000 minus expenses

Karen 09-21-2009 09:14 PM

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Originally Posted by Baron (Post 170647)
I'm going to pull out one statement he said at the conference that is total BS he does NOT know what the hell he's talking about. He stated that the earth is now being bombarded with cosmic rays (yes that's true check any astronomical website it will tell you so) however he goes on to tell you that these cosmic rays give off NEGATIVE IONS that are really dangerous for us because they make us depressed ill melancholic suicidal and sick etc!

What complete bunkum let me say that again what complete bunkum he speaks!

NEGATIVE IONS are good for us they make us feel good these things are released during thunderstorms or when you are near waterfalls or in green tree woodlands. There are machines you can buy that give off negative ions they help to kill off bacteria and clean the air and ionize the air so you breath cleaner fresher air and just generally feel good.

So George Green stop talking rot! And don't BS your way out of this argument with something like these cosmic negative ions are in fact positive deadly instead or some other waffle.

Well, what if he meant positive ions? I frequently hear people error in their words. Those effects are the effect of positive ions such as seen with Santa Anna winds in S. California.

Swanny 09-21-2009 09:34 PM

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Did anyone here stand up and ask a question??? :original:

orthodoxymoron 09-21-2009 10:11 PM

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Wow Baron! Aren't you just a bundle of positive reinforcement! The weight-slam was below the belt...or was it above the belt? B&K aren't getting rich in this business...I don't think. But I wouldn't have a problem if they were. The good people should make the big-bucks...not the other way around...like it usually is.

I haven't watched all of the speakers yet...but I really liked Robert Dean and Alex Collier. Dean is a wise owl. He should be carefully listened to. I love Alex...but I still have question-marks regarding his sources. Also...does the holographic paradigm leave the Constitution unmolested? I think so...but I'm not sure. Also...I see no problem with money...as long as the corruption level is kept to an absolute minimum. Work and innovation should be appropriately rewarded. At what point do we leave the Constitutional free-enterpise system...and become socialists and collectivists? Do we really need to be mentored by ET's...or do we simply need the ET's (and who knows who else?) to leave us alone? Finally...I'm a fan of physicality...as long as it is combined with responsible freedom and spirituality. I'll be lucky if I can maintain 3D...and not fall into 2D or 1D. Will many people 'ascend into the rep-realm'? Is the 'rep-realm' between us and the benevloent ET's? Do we really need to get our psychological, ethical, spiritual, and governance houses in order before we 'ascend'? Is the rep-realm sort of like the Van Allen Belt? Are we in a net right now?

happyhollergal 09-22-2009 01:27 AM

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I just finished watching Jordan Maxwell, and was taking in the information, when all of a sudden he was interrupted and told that they had to make time for David to take the stage. From what I understand, Jordan filled in for the no-show Pete Peterson. All of the other speakers had an hour, and were given signals when they had about 15 minutes left. Jordan was given no such signal, he was just cut off at 47 minutes, as he said, when he was just warming up. I thought the way he was shut down was quite rude. Now David's speach is shown as having 157 minutes, and I intend to watch that now, but what really aggravated me is that Jordan may have been silenced because of the topic he brought up. He stated that the Vatican is America's biggest enemy, and that we should research the connection between the Vatican and Nazi's. Was that too much for us to hear? Did it disagree with Kerry, Bill, the audience belief systems perhaps? Whether I agree with a speaker or not, I should have the courtesy to allow them to express their opinions, especially if he or she is doing me a favor by filling in for someone else who didn't have the decency to show up as promised. I do appreciate the conference being put on, and us having access to it, but lately, Kerry's behavior really gets the Libra in me going. Fairness and justice to/for all is what I'm referring to.

Karen 09-22-2009 02:59 AM

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Originally Posted by happyhollergal (Post 170757)
I just finished watching Jordan Maxwell, and was taking in the information, when all of a sudden he was interrupted and told that they had to make time for David to take the stage. From what I understand, Jordan filled in for the no-show Pete Peterson. All of the other speakers had an hour, and were given signals when they had about 15 minutes left. Jordan was given no such signal, he was just cut off at 47 minutes, as he said, when he was just warming up. I thought the way he was shut down was quite rude. Now David's speach is shown as having 157 minutes, and I intend to watch that now, but what really aggravated me is that Jordan may have been silenced because of the topic he brought up. He stated that the Vatican is America's biggest enemy, and that we should research the connection between the Vatican and Nazi's. Was that too much for us to hear? Did it disagree with Kerry, Bill, the audience belief systems perhaps? Whether I agree with a speaker or not, I should have the courtesy to allow them to express their opinions, especially if he or she is doing me a favor by filling in for someone else who didn't have the decency to show up as promised. I do appreciate the conference being put on, and us having access to it, but lately, Kerry's behavior really gets the Libra in me going. Fairness and justice to/for all is what I'm referring to.

I heard at the beginning of the Webre talk, Kerry said after 36 hours of hearing nothing from Petersen, they found he was in the hospital with a kidney stone.

The ones that got the 15 minute warnings may have had someone on their own "team" signaling them. Miriam checked her own watch as far as the time. I doubt it was a matter of censoring Jordan. Kerry just does what Kerry does and doesn't worry what anyone else thinks, and that's why you get what you get from Camelot. Was that the one where Bill forgot to tell them they were going to be on and they got a late start? I can't remember which one that was.

happyhollergal 09-22-2009 03:08 AM

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I didn't hear Bill say anything about starting late. The intro opened with Kerry introducing Jordan, as he was seated next to her. I just found it strange that Kerry stated at the beginning of David's presentation that he had two hours, but yet was given an extra 37 minutes, while Jordan's time was reduced. Also, I remember Kerry saying in another one that the speaker may go over 10 or so minutes, and that seemed okay with everyone. It's just an observation on my end, because I would have been interested in another 12 minutes of Jordan's final thoughts. I haven't listened to Alfred yet, so I didn't hear the announcement about the hospital thing with Peterson. I do remember Bill saying that he had been promised that Peterson would be there on Friday night, and they had not yet heard from him. Too bad about the kidney stone. His lecture would have been interesting.

deb003 09-22-2009 03:57 AM

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Originally Posted by happyhollergal (Post 170777)
I didn't hear Bill say anything about starting late. The intro opened with Kerry introducing Jordan, as he was seated next to her. I just found it strange that Kerry stated at the beginning of David's presentation that he had two hours, but yet was given an extra 37 minutes, while Jordan's time was reduced. Also, I remember Kerry saying in another one that the speaker may go over 10 or so minutes, and that seemed okay with everyone. It's just an observation on my end, because I would have been interested in another 12 minutes of Jordan's final thoughts. I haven't listened to Alfred yet, so I didn't hear the announcement about the hospital thing with Peterson. I do remember Bill saying that he had been promised that Peterson would be there on Friday night, and they had not yet heard from him. Too bad about the kidney stone. His lecture would have been interesting.

Hi happy.
maybe they favored David's time since he's so involved with PC and they know him for this long?
I know from following Jordan, he really doesn't get the credit he deserves. This man is like a book and for some reason he just doesnt receive the air time or interviews that I know would benefit humanity on so many levels. he has mentioned before that tptb will let him talk as long as it doesn;t reach too many people and he;s also a very humble man in my opinion and i also wish B&K would interview him. The information he presents is always very controversial, but the man has been studying esoteric knowledge and other things for over 40 years and how in the world does this get put under the rug so much in mind blogling to me. :(
Maybe B&K will interview him in the future. maybe not.

happyhollergal 09-22-2009 04:22 AM

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Hey deb! You're so right, he doesn't get the attention or credit he deserves, AND Kerry even said that in her introduction of him. That was another reason I was stunned when she cut him off. David is on the radio, several Camelot interviews, has movies in the works, etc. He has exposure, and Jordan does not. I feel that it was an injustice to Jordan. He has devoted his lifetime to research, in an area that interests HIM, and controversial as it is, he should be allowed to share that. I don't agree with everything that all interviewees or presenters put out there, but that's where we are each individuals and have to decide what works for us. Lots of people adore David. I have tried many times to listen to him with an open mind, but at the end, I have a boggled mind. He just doesn't ring true to my heart. We all have our own journey. I simply wish that when someone is being questioned about their beliefs, they be permitted to do so. Thanks for your input deb!

Swanny 09-22-2009 08:29 AM

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I think that Kerry was very rude to Jordan as well :thumbdown:
I must admit to not being a fan of hers

orthodoxymoron 09-22-2009 08:33 AM

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I just watched Jordan Maxwell...and was surprised by the short and abruptly terminated presentation. Was this the amount of time he was allotted? Did he know in advance that he would have 47 minutes? Was he given a 5 minute warning to bring his presentation to a conclusion? It seemed odd that he was cut-off mid sentence when he was making a connection between the Vatican and the Nazi's. Did someone pull the plug on Camelot? Probably not...but it did seem strange. I think the Vatican gets told what to do by malevolent non-humans...and then they tell everyone else what to do. I don't think the Vatican is happy about this arrangement...but they do what they think they have to do. Who knows...Lucifer may be told what to do by Orion, Draco, or Sirius. This is pseudo-intellectual conjecture. These subjects really do need to be addressed in detail by credible writers and speakers in an honest, fair, and tactful manner. There is no easy way to deal with our history in an intellectually honest manner. So much of it is evil, corrupt, and horrific. Here is a video which is a bit tedious to view...and which is quite upsetting regarding Vatican/Nazi atrocities.

Baron 09-22-2009 09:50 AM

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Originally Posted by Karen (Post 170670)
Well, what if he meant positive ions? I frequently hear people error in their words. Those effects are the effect of positive ions such as seen with Santa Anna winds in S. California.

Yes I agree people do error on their words now and again!

That is not the case here, this is a case of somebody having a little information that's flawed and they become dangerous with their version of science.His B#¤%S%&/t has caught up with him and I'm NOT letting these frauds get away with it any longer.

You see I deliberately left out mentioning the other side of Ions, "positive ions" affects effects just in case somebody would ask this good question.

You see even if George Green had said they were POSITIVE + ions his argument would be flawed! You see + & - ions in the atmosphere have the same affect on us all, its just that positive ions pick up dust sand etc in the water molecule which makes the air, such as the Santa Ana or Sirocco winds unpleasant for people.Its not the ion its the garbage it picks up.

The actual values of the ion concentrations depend strongly on the concentration of aerosols particles or pollutants,these are the things that make people feel bad!


These differences are caused by the positive ions having a lower mobility than do negative ions (1.4•10–4 m2V–1s–1 and 1.8•10–4 m2V–1s–1, respectively).But neither are superior or inferior, if for example those ionisation machines people buy could be produced for positive ions cheaply and without picking up and throwing off dust, the affect would be the same on the atmosphere we perceive as invigorating. These ions are mobile charge carriers that dissipate in atmosphere very quickly and cannot travel hundreds of miles over mountain ranges or through space without loosing their charge.

Basically the ying and yang + - is there, but neither better or worse or deadly because only what gave off the ions is deadly and that's in the cosmos! Its called Radiation which cause X-rays which bleed off ions which are charged particles that quickly decay.

Yes ions are produced in all radiation or x-ray places! That's why the X-ray department in hospitals always seems so fresh!

Anyway George Green did not know what he was talking about on this matter period and I will debate him any time, bring it on George.You know? I know I wont hear a peep from him or the other repeaters!

Nobody seems to wonder why these guys don't site, scientific papers or research of scientist or any evidence so people can check out their sources! The reason is because they are repeating other repeaters who have picked up on one bit of flawed science embellished it and ran with it.That's why they come with this was from a high level secret source in top level 47b,black secret government told me! Yeah right they told you who they know will tell us! Yeah right!

As I always quote "How can you trust people with large matters when you cannot trust them with small matters"??? This is very, very relevant to this one point that was wrong totally and in every way, that needed exposing.

Because too many people are innocently listening to these people and believe every word they are being told is the truth, when they are not!

Baron

Baron 09-22-2009 10:52 AM

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Originally Posted by orthodoxymoron (Post 170692)
Wow Baron! Aren't you just a bundle of positive reinforcement! The weight-slam was below the belt...or was it above the belt? B&K aren't getting rich in this business...I don't think. But I wouldn't have a problem if they were. The good people should make the big-bucks...not the other way around...like it usually is.

I haven't watched all of the speakers yet...but I really liked Robert Dean and Alex Collier. Dean is a wise owl. He should be carefully listened to. I love Alex...but I still have question-marks regarding his sources. Also...does the holographic paradigm leave the Constitution unmolested? I think so...but I'm not sure. Also...I see no problem with money...as long as the corruption level is kept to an absolute minimum. Work and innovation should be appropriately rewarded. At what point do we leave the Constitutional free-enterpise system...and become socialists and collectivists? Do we really need to be mentored by ET's...or do we simply need the ET's (and who knows who else?) to leave us alone? Finally...I'm a fan of physicality...as long as it is combined with responsible freedom and spirituality. I'll be lucky if I can maintain 3D...and not fall into 2D or 1D. Will many people 'ascend into the rep-realm'? Is the 'rep-realm' between us and the benevloent ET's? Do we really need to get our psychological, ethical, spiritual, and governance houses in order before we 'ascend'? Is the rep-realm sort of like the Van Allen Belt? Are we in a net right now?

I'm not hear for positive reinforcement or entertainment and feel good factors, I'm hear to find any new nuggets of truth amongst the slag! Its unfortunate for us some of these speakers have been dug up again that I and many others proved them frauds the first time they came out of their hovel!

To think new listeners think they are finding new truthful information when they are not! I Don't want others to go through the long tiresome boring process of finding out that most of these people are fantasists liars and day dreamers, some started off with a valid experience a UFO sighting or extra ordinary event, and because of radio, TV,conferences, talk shows etc have embellished their lives and experience to stay on this addictive bandwagon of a sort which gives off a kind of glory and adoration that is normally only reserved for sports or movie stars and they are caught on this roller-coaster of false hoods based perhaps on one small old truth, and they cannot stop themselves for whatever reason.

You know they are so very private but they agree to be brought out time and time again to repeat their mantra!$$$$$$ Case in point the super secret Arthur Neumann/Henry Deacon he could not resist the glory and came out of the closest! WHY? Take a guess! $Adoration$ excitement travel...

The fat point as I explained was nothing personal,it was connected to a very valid question.If he's in contact with an Andromedian mentor why is that mentor not mentoring to him to take care of his health so this mentor can keep mentoring him? Or maybe this mentor is sick of this guy and wants to find a new sexy blonde to mentor instead? So is not concerned with his health and well being! I'm being facetious of course.

Also my comment about what Camelot would have earned if they sold out the conference as I would have thought, was just factual information totally neutral.


This brings me to the other aspect of all this many are in this for the money or to earn a living out of it. Now that's ok by me if their information is the TRUTH and factual and not more repeats of repeats of repeaters by repeaters.As for conferences if this gives Bill and Kerry extra funds to interview real whistle-blowers or people with interesting new information we don't get from the MSM media who are actually going to tell us something new and truthful,well that's all good for them.

But when its for just more of the same of the same, questions of their motives sparks me awake! I cringed when I watched Marcia Shafer bringing up that excuse that some question their motives when they are earning a living out of this alternative information! How many times and how long can you tell about an experience or disclose some high level information? The matter is this is where embellishments and lies come in, they need to produce more and more to feed this ever growing following and often financially rewarding career as for Marcia, or at least braking even hey its better than working for a living.

The only way to find the truth is to slag off the slag to find the rare nuggets out there.

cloud9 09-22-2009 02:59 PM

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I personally don't have any problem with Bill and Kerry making some money out of this. Thanks to them, thousands of people worlwide have awakened and they work from their hearts. Perhaps sometimes I don't agree with how Kerry treats some people but it is a minor thing compared with the good she does.
Regarding comments about people's looks I absolutely disagree with those, maybe the only one I saw a valid one would be about Dr. Deagle being he a physician is a complete contradiction.
Judgement is one of the thing that keeps us trapped here, besides who can claim perfection? Nobody knows the pains and problems others have in their lives so we really shouldn't judge.

Luminari 09-22-2009 04:18 PM

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Originally Posted by cloud9 (Post 170911)

..Judgement is one of the thing that keeps us trapped here, besides who can claim perfection? Nobody knows the pains and problems others have in their lives so we really shouldn't judge.

:winner_first_h4h:

mntruthseeker 09-22-2009 04:50 PM

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Jordan Maxwell is very knowledgable and I too think he was "put off" I didnt like and I would of loved to hear more, but then I'm not paying to see it so I shouldnt argue.

I think that B&K are doing a good job but there is always so much negativeity after their interviews as of late.

They clearly show favortism and to be that is egotistic Unless David Wilcock is paying half the cost. Who knows.

For Jordan Maxwell to be treated that way was a shame. Shame on you Kerry for cutting him off. His words were the first to ever wake me up on the symbolisms in the world and there were alot of people that were watching the videos for the very first time. My friends and others that were asked to view. What kind of impression does it make?

Jordan was one of the very first people to ever come forward with this information and I'm very proud of his works. And guess what ? He didnt charge for it. it was on you tube

Can anyone name all the wonderful people that have come out and done presentations and told us the absolute truth for FREE ?

Quite a few and to them I give my appreciation and trust me they would not get anyless less than my uppermost respect. Bless them all.....They know who they are

Swanny 09-22-2009 05:13 PM

Re: Awake and Aware Conference From LA
 
David Wilcock does a rubbish English accent :naughty:

Unified Serenity 09-22-2009 05:40 PM

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I would have loved to hear Jordon Maxwell for 2 to 3 hours. 47 minutes was just like getting a lil nibble darn it! Would someone please sit down with him and do an interview, write a book encompassing what he's gotten up til now?

I think Mr. Maxwell is probably one of the few I really do trust and like listening to. I did enjoy Alex Collier's lecture, and found it very interesting. I don't normally trust much channeled or my alien friends taught me ____, but I do like Mr. Collier quite a bit in this lecture.

I don't really like DW much, and I can't say why. It's just something about him that puts my hackles up and BS meter go pinging off the charts. I'll listen to his lecture though and at least not be a hypocrite by not listening to him. I get so irritated when naysayers won't look at FACTUAL data I try to share and just go about spouting off their views without looking at all the evidence.

Swanny 09-22-2009 06:09 PM

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David Wilcock gets interesting at about 2 hours in.
But he should leave the jokes out and not try to be funny as he really isn't :naughty:

mntruthseeker 09-22-2009 07:06 PM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Swanny (Post 170963)
David Wilcock gets interesting at about 2 hours in.
But he should leave the jokes out and not try to be funny as he really isn't :naughty:


:mfr_lol:

I haven't even listened to him yet. I started to and got distracted. So, now at least I wont waste 2 hours and instead got to the very end

Unified Serenity 09-22-2009 08:46 PM

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Ok, I went ahead and watched 2012 the enigma and am 30 min into the camelot conference video. I have to say what he is saying is resonating with me. The other vids I've seen of his did not sit well with me.

I do believe our attitude and decisions of self acceptance will have a great deal of affect to the world we create now and into the future so, I have no complaints of his talk. I recommend it if it means anything to those reading here.

It is sort of spirituality 101 at this point.


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