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BROOK 02-15-2009 05:46 AM

Re: Recent War in our Solar System By Norval & Gale
 
Holy cow....what trolls and attitudes....he just said he disagreed:nono:
http://www.editorialphoto.com/resour...s_holy_cow.jpg

Dantheman62 02-15-2009 05:49 AM

Re: Recent War in our Solar System By Norval & Gale
 
No not still reeling, and trust me I'm probably the least serious person you could ever meet. Yes he had more info on his interpretation of the bible but I'm not sure where it would be. I'm sure it's still here somewhere, I think he had three major threads on the subject.
I agree that those scientists and the info they put out might not be correct but my point was that Norval wouldn't even listen to any alternatives to his.

Dantheman62 02-15-2009 05:55 AM

Re: Recent War in our Solar System By Norval & Gale
 
If you click on search this forum in the upper right corner, then click on advanced search you might be able to search under the username Norval.

taadev 02-15-2009 06:57 AM

Re: Recent War in our Solar System By Norval & Gale
 
Sounds like you and your buds were either in the 1%, or calling him a liar. (I'm no expert although I can see I'd better become one quick.:original:)
http://www.projectavalon.net/forum/s...7&postcount=17

If Norval said this was proof positive then we'd be in disagreement, but this is decent circumstantial evidence; especially with the symmetry mass/velocity and 6-1-6 pattern. (Start small peak in the middle and then trail off; to an analyst that's a lot of coincidences, but if you re-read you'll see it was never said to be impossible.)
If the impact created pearls what happened to the large one in the middle. A pearl burp?

These usually subtle and indirect methods of attacking in 'pearls of comeNts', to borrow your phrase, with followup 'atta boys' are very, VERY old "team-troll" tactics. Coincidental in this case, I'm SURE.

Serious posters and researchers should learn to recognize 'team-trolling', and ignore them, but don't expect them to 'go away'.

Guess they 'add value' to someone, but to WHOM?

Thanks for the tip on the search option.:winksmiley02:
Quote:

Originally Posted by Dantheman62 (Post 112714)
If you click on search this forum in the upper right corner, then click on advanced search you might be able to search under the username Norval.


Dantheman62 02-15-2009 07:18 AM

Re: Recent War in our Solar System By Norval & Gale
 
Yup I guess I'm in the 1% then, I just didn't like how he wouldn't listen to any other alternative. People who think they're right all the time will steer you wrong evey time. Hey in the end he might be right, or the scientists might be right, I'm not sure we'll ever know and I'm not going to lose any sleep over it either way.
On the other hand I could probably sit down and have a beer with him on his boat, just as long as he didn't bring up the bible. Me and the bible don't see eye to eye!

dayzero 02-15-2009 07:51 AM

Re: Recent War in our Solar System By Norval & Gale
 
Ahh, the good old days. Hmm.

More like;
Recent War in our Solar System With Norval & Gale


hhha haha haaaa!

Czymra 02-15-2009 09:07 AM

Re: Recent War in our Solar System By Norval & Gale
 
Hoho guys. What are you arguing about. The info is there for all to take if they so like. What more can you want?

Mercuriel 02-15-2009 09:14 AM

Re: Recent War in our Solar System By Norval & Gale
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by hobbit (Post 64927)
Norval, Removing who dun it or what dun it. I would respectfully request a discussion about the method employed capable of ever producing what is seen.

Quote:

Was it atomics from a rapid fire system? Precisely guided rapid fire missile systems? Possibly a pulse fire of some kind of high energy weapon? What is known and agreed upon by most of the research scientists and us is that these craters in these chains happened in very fast sequence, almost simultaneously. There is very little fall back of the ejected material from one crater into the next crater in the chain. Possibly a plasma weapon melted that half circle and river bed like area, we are asking more questions too.
I will posit this as a partial and by no means complete answer as to the possible difference between the Circlularly Centralized - Spider Leg - Pock-mark approached Craters versus the Linear - Somewhat Symetrical - "Crater Chain" - Craters spoken of and shown in this Thread so far...

The "Circularly Centralized - Spider Leg - Pock-mark approached Craters" could be examples of Cluster Bomb concepts We've already seen at use in Warfighting being done here on Earth. The "Pock-marking" would be the steady drop of the "Bomblets" as They march towards the Object to be destroyed. The "Circularly Centralized - Spider Leg" effect could easily be seen as mimicking the effects of say an Ammo Dump or Suppy/Fuel Depot being hit by that Cluster Bomb, and then detonating outwards in a Circular fashion, with Hard Ejecta making scars across the land as the Explosion Cloud radiated outwards.

This could be indicative of a High Altitude Carpet Bomb effort as Norval has already suggested.

The "Linear - Somewhat Symetrical - "Crater Chain" - Craters" could be very powerful Scalar Pulse Weapons in the Twenty to Fifty Megaton Range w/ a likely ability for that to be variable depending on the size of the Ship or Craft firing such a Weapon.

Imagine if You will that You're on an "Attack-Run" - Now see with Your Mind's Eye that as You dive in at speed and then pull up and out of the Dive with "Escape Velocity" - You're aformetioned Weapons would be similar sounding to and operate like - BOOM - BOOM - BOOM - BOOM - BOOM - BOOM - BOOM - BOOM - And now You're pulling up and curving back out into Space at "Escape Velocity".

This would be akin to a "Strafing Run" or perhaps a "Surgical Strike"...

Its My Hope that the above Visuals may help some...

;)

Please understand - I take no position in this Thread in any other way - I'm merely offering Brain Food for Brains...

:mfr_omg:

dayzero 02-15-2009 10:09 AM

Re: Recent War in our Solar System By Norval & Gale
 
It' because of Antel's post.
Norval's been slagging him off in another forum [notice that he's been banned], so Dan has revived one of the threads that demonstrate some of the bad vibes of the early days.
Am I right, Dan?

I couldn't give a monkeys about wars in space.
IMO it's all part of what StClair rightly calls the 'Phenomenon'

taadev 02-15-2009 10:48 AM

Re: Recent War in our Solar System By Norval & Gale
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Dantheman62 (Post 112727)
... he might be right, or the scientists might be right....

If you re-read the link above Norvel stated he did speak to scientists and experts "across the board"; your post implied otherwise. (Fyi: Did you know lying via omission is the most widely used disinformation tactic? Yup, it's a known fact that while many ppl lie as readily as others eat, most do not like getting caught. Why leave in tact the ONE constitutional right in place, the suspension of which would allow zeroing in on ALL American terrorists/traitors? (The 5th Amendment and Brain Fingerprints.)

If one believes in ETs is this not a simple deductive reasoning problem?

IF one believes that ETs exist, one must also believe goodies and baddies exist. Is it then such a huge leap they'd have the ability to defend themselves to survive? Is it then also not likely they'd have skirmishes throughout the ages? (If not just take pot shots for practice, or who knows even fun, at some point in history.:wink2:)

Perhaps Norval was not willing to deal with the team-trolling tactics used in these formums.


FWIW: Either a lot of ppl have gone to great time and expense to present evidence ETs exist or they do exist.
It's impossible to know for sure even if they present with bio-tech and hidden tech being what it is.
Mind control could explain the testimonies and simple Hollywood effects the rest.

Having said all that there is only ONE certainty in life, and I'm just playing devils advocate.
:diespam:
------ Unrelated to OP Truth or Lies? -----
Ppl unable to discern the difference are wasting their time reading or worse being misled; the media plays games that look a lot like those used a/g Norval all the time; it's the oldest trick in the book.

Ron Paul fans got a good lesson on layered meta-communications and media games such as team-trolling across corporate lines. (This time, perhaps, they were trolling for sheep, and the patience of a researcher as is quite common; I'm sure you've noticed. Be careful lest you, accidentally, appear like one of them.)

This, and most popular forums, present an exact duplicate model of the MSM; just minus the visual negative meta-communications. (eye-rolls, facial expressions of foolishness, verbal snickers, 'Oh please', 'don't tell me you believe blah...', etc. etc.)

One very easy method of detecting disinformation are ad-hominem attacks that avoid the issues/evidence and/or point to unnamed 'scientists' or 'scholars'.

In fact this is a good method of knowing when the opposing argument is likely to have merit,[/B] as evidence is used when it exists.

mu2143 02-15-2009 01:45 PM

Re: Recent War in our Solar System By Norval & Gale
 
O Btw
about the Vitrified ruins are all of the planet!! Because there was a full blown thermal nuclear war on this planet!!!

And I do remember running away from the city as fast if I could, before hell break out!!!Mushroom clouds above every city in my field vision!!!
I did survives the direct blast, but checked out what was left of the city.
It was just a burning hell!!!

I get some past time memorys back when I sleep. Happend most in 2008 when I realy woke up!!!what was going on here right now

http://www.brigantesnation.com/Vitri...dHillforts.htm

BROOK 02-15-2009 02:56 PM

Re: Recent War in our Solar System By Norval & Gale
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by dayzero (Post 112737)
Ahh, the good old days. Hmm.

More like;
Recent War in our Solar System With Norval & Gale


hhha haha haaaa!

Dan didn't revive this thread.....Taadev did....

BROOK 02-15-2009 02:59 PM

Re: Recent War in our Solar System By Norval & Gale
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by dayzero (Post 112756)
It' because of Antel's post.
Norval's been slagging him off in another forum [notice that he's been banned], so Dan has revived one of the threads that demonstrate some of the bad vibes of the early days.
Am I right, Dan?

I couldn't give a monkeys about wars in space.
IMO it's all part of what StClair rightly calls the 'Phenomenon'

Woops this is the quote..Dan did not revive this thread...Taadev did:lol3: I need my coffee

piers2210 02-15-2009 04:19 PM

Re: Recent War in our Solar System By Norval & Gale
 
Can anyone tell me who wrote the bible and when???

alyscat 02-15-2009 04:57 PM

Re: Recent War in our Solar System By Norval & Gale
 
Ummmm, which version?
alys

piers2210 02-15-2009 05:01 PM

Re: Recent War in our Solar System By Norval & Gale
 
Alys,

Perfect answer!!

P.

orthodoxymoron 02-15-2009 06:32 PM

Re: Recent War in our Solar System By Norval & Gale
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by piers2210 (Post 112822)
Can anyone tell me who wrote the bible and when???


Lots of different people wrote the 39 Old Tesament and 27 New Testament books of the Bible over a very long period of time...from approximately 1450 BC to 100 AD. Then there is the question of whether they had supernatural, extraterrestrial, or ghost-writing help? Did they plagiarize? What sources did they use? What portions of the Bible have been redacted or changed? Why were some books of the Bible included in the Cannon, and some rejected at the Council of Nicea in 325 AD? Who decided, and why? Who is the definitive interpreter of scripture? If scripture is infallible...do we need an infallible interpreter...to receive the very Word of God? Why are the Teachings of Jesus not the definitive doctrinal statement of Christianity? Is Jesus simply a hood ornament on the very fast moving Bablyonian, Egyptian, Roman, Jewish freight-train which hit him without attempting to put on the brakes? Is Christianity really Churchianity? Did evil aliens invent our religions to control us? Did Lucifer invent both God and Satan...and then control both...sort of like financing both sides of a war? I knew a graduate of the Harvard Divinity School who did not consider the Bible to be the 'Word of God'.

Ok, I took my medicine, and I'm calming down. I'm trying to sort of do what Norval and Gale are doing...that is, integrate free-thinking ufology, science, etc. with at least some aspects of the Bible. I presently study the Bible like any other book. I center my study on the Teachings of Jesus...or those words attributed to Jesus. To me, they make sense...regardless of the source. I believe Jesus existed...and actually said most of the words which are red, in a red-letter edition of the Bible. The Jesus Seminar is a good place to begin regarding a scholarly analysis of the 20 or so Gospels ('The Complete Gospels'-Polebridge Press), of which 4 are included in the Bible. Ralph Ellis has written some fascinating books which are quite unorthodox and speculative (though well researched) such as 'Jesus: Last of the Pharaohs'. Nicholas Notovitch's 'The Unknown Life of Jesus' is a recommended read. The Ellen White book 'Desire of Ages' is one of my favorites.

My bias is a combination of the Teachings of Jesus with the U.S. Constitution. I lean toward reincarnation...but without the hocus-pocus and eastern mysticism. I try not to conjure up the supernatural...but sometimes they bug me anyway! There's a lot of confusion and controversy out there in theology, philosophy, ufology, etc. Sometimes a nice long walk in nature does a lot more good than reading books! The truth is out there!

That was the long answer! Now what was the question?

Czymra 02-15-2009 08:09 PM

Re: Recent War in our Solar System By Norval & Gale
 
Quote:

Jesus comming as a thief in the night is you, to take back the sacred teachings.
So that's why it's Ninjeetsu! (Alright, bad joke but it had to be.)

777 The Great Work 02-15-2009 08:13 PM

Re: Recent War in our Solar System By Norval & Gale
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Czymra (Post 112882)
So that's why it's Ninjeetsu! (Alright, bad joke but it had to be.)

No not a bad joke , because that is the way they think.

dayzero 02-16-2009 09:27 AM

Re: Recent War in our Solar System WITH Norval & Gale
 
Sorry - my mistake!

However, my point is that Norval was/is a nasty piece of work in my opinion, and he was eventually banned, and it was his own miserable fault and not anyone else's, and if he hadn't been so unpleasant he could be here now discussing his pet research with us, but nooooo.......

So now he's slagging us all off on another forum.
No point beating about the bush!

Still, I think we're all over it now...lol

dayzero 02-16-2009 09:32 AM

Re: Recent War in our Solar System By Norval & Gale
 
".....but has anyone wondered why we aren't getting any people coming forward?......."

mmm yeah.......unfortunately there was a lot of damage done by the disturbances last year. many people left - Henry Deacon, St Clair and others.



has anyone seen/heard the latest Camelot interviews - George Green and Brian O'Leary in particular.....really excellent both interviews [the vid with oleary, the audio w/ george]

http://www.projectcamelot.net/audio_interviews.html

Czymra 02-16-2009 11:03 AM

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Quote:

mmm yeah.......unfortunately there was a lot of damage done by the disturbances last year. many people left - Henry Deacon, St Clair and others.
Wow, I wasn't aware of the toll it actually took.

taadev 02-16-2009 07:29 PM

Re: Recent War in our Solar System By Norval & Gale
 
Thanks Brook,
One quickly learns to ignore team-trolling; the worst part of this are the pearls get lost in the garbage.

Perhaps I missed a responsive answer in the topic switch, but is Norvals hypothesis not a simple deductive reasoning problem?

If one believes in ETs, as it seems many in this forum do, why do they have to ALL be disarmed and incapable of taking shots at 'slates' on moons or at the earth?

I found the evidence of ETs quite compelling, but again, there are other explanations as plausible as the string of pearls explanation of Norvals theory.

There's no way of verifying ANY of this stuff on the Internet, but there was some alleged evidence of a past nuclear war. Russian, if I recall correctly and the 'ancient' land maps of Iceland, too got my attention. In fact this was one of the evidences that triggered me to 'waste my time' on the 'silly' notion of ETs as handed to me from my media.

Quote:

Originally Posted by BROOK (Post 112711)
Holy cow....what trolls and attitudes....he just said he disagreed:nono:




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