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100thmonkey 10-19-2008 10:00 AM

Re: Recent War in our Solar System By Norval & Gale
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Norval (Post 54965)
There are other signs of war that go along with multiple in line craters. Craters within craters...

They're called Bulls-eye craters too. Here's some more info with further examples: http://www.thunderbolts.info/tpod/20...23bullseye.htm

100thmonkey 10-19-2008 10:04 AM

Re: Recent War in our Solar System By Norval & Gale
 
Here's some more info on Crater chains, specifically the example shown early in this thread:
http://www.thunderbolts.info/tpod/20...0825crater.htm

Also some other examples:
http://www.thunderbolts.info/tpod/20...leancrater.htm

100thmonkey 10-19-2008 10:09 AM

Re: Recent War in our Solar System By Norval & Gale
 
Here's some more examples of interplanetary scarring:
http://www.thunderbolts.info/tpod/20...s-scarring.htm
...and how such things would have appeared to the ancient people's:
http://www.thunderbolts.info/tpod/20...12scarface.htm

100thmonkey 10-19-2008 10:16 AM

Re: Recent War in our Solar System By Norval & Gale
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Gale (Post 35896)
This image of Iapetus is borrowed from Richard Hoagland’s report shows the ridge up close. The ridge is 20-kilometer wide (12 miles), peak of the ridge reaches at least 13 kilometers (8 miles) above the surrounding terrain, roughly 1,300 kilometer (800 mile) in length, almost exactly parallel to the equator. What is unique is the concise and systematic crater chains running along the very top of the ridge.

For just 13 strikes in a row the odds of that is virtually impossible. If you were a betting person you would win all the lotteries but to run crater chains precisely along the top ridge is phenomenal.

Here's some more info on Iaeputus and it's strange ridge, which would also explain why there would be such crater-chaining aligned precisely along the top of the ridge:
http://www.thunderbolts.info/tpod/20...418iapetus.htm
Also:
http://www.thunderbolts.info/tpod/20...etusrising.htm

Antaletriangle 10-19-2008 11:37 AM

Re: Recent War in our Solar System By Norval & Gale
 
Strange ray like scars on mercury.
http://www.projectavalon.net/forum/p...pictureid=3790
Mercury-The planet Mercury has been known since history has been recorded, but parts of the Solar System's innermost planet have never been seen like this before. Two days ago the robotic MESSENGER spacecraft buzzed past Mercury for the second time and imaged terrain mapped previously only by comparatively crude radar. The above image was recorded as MESSENGER looked back 90 minutes after passing, from an altitude of about 27,000 kilometers. Visible in the above image, among many other newly imaged features, are unusually long rays that appear to run like meridians of longitude out from a young crater near the northern limb. MESSENGER is scheduled to fly past Mercury once more before firing its thrusters to enter orbit in 2011.
courtesy: Astronomy picture of the day.

Norval 10-20-2008 12:48 AM

Re: Recent War in our Solar System By Norval & Gale
 
Monkey,
Quote:

"Why is it that you (Norval/Gale) dismiss the E.U. arcing theory?"
That was answered quite awhile ago, if you had bothered to read the thread, and our answer is
still sticking to us. :lol3: Posting #34
Quote:

"I also don't discount the idea of ancient wars in space, etc. I think the ancient gods and angels
were really the ET's..."
That comment would be classed misdirection for these reasons. This final war that was fought, in
which our astronomers witnessed Mars being destroyed, was very recent, not ancient. Also that
these so called gods ARE the ETs, not were the ETs. You also may want to take note that the
EU and thunderbolts came along a couple years after Gale and I submitted our research to
NASA. Thus we think it is mostly misdirection and disinformation. As did many other sites.
Quote:

"BTW is this your site?"
No
As the premise of this thread states, of which, again, you have failed to read the thread, is about
the bibles explanation of these oddities in our solar system that point to war as the most
reasonable answer and not some happenstance electrical discharge. And, for sure not some
fanciful "spiritualistic" ideology or philosophy. Thank you. :original:

Norval 10-20-2008 05:59 PM

Re: Recent War in our Solar System By Norval & Gale
 
When it comes to war it is the aftermath that hits the people the hardest. After that war in our
solar system and the defeated bad ETs thrown down to the earth, we have this to think about.



Quote:

Re: The Search for Truth - Amnesty or Vengeance?

The Search for Truth - Amnesty or Vengeance?

Quote:
Kerry said;
"Whether "the people" are able to forgive them, and limit vengeance will be partially due
to projects like ours that began to reveal the truth to the people."
And,
"... Some may not be so generous."

Many have heard this;
"Vengeance is mine," says the Lord, "I will repay."
Understanding that this is the King of all the Galaxies speaking, coming to take
vengeance, deliver the oppressed, puts that message and this topic in a different light
altogether.

Because of what has happened to friends, loved ones, and ones involved in this research,
I, for one, would love to take vengeance into my own hands. I will not though, but I do
fervently hope that I will be chosen to help in the delivery of that vengeance that is coming
upon all those that have harmed mankind and didn't want Jesus to become King and
killed him once. Yes, King Jesus is returning, (has returned from the looks of our solar
system), and with an attitude. We can no more stop, nor alter, that vengeance than we
can, or have stopped, corruption here

This is a post that I would have preferred not to make, yet it needed to be said.

For some it will be a "doom and gloom" post while for others it will mean "deliverance
and exhilaration". This is a "whistle blower" testimony about a finished message from ET,
the bible, that has been in our hands now for two thousand years.

Religionocity and demonocracy have no place in a monarchy.
The technology of the bad ET’s / fallen angels is just fools play compared to what is
coming.

Sincerely
Norval L. Cunningham Where's the "whistle blower one?
__________________
What will you know tomorrow?

wwolf67 10-20-2008 09:57 PM

Re: Recent War in our Solar System By Norval & Gale
 
I started this during the evacuations;
http://www.godlikeproductions.com/fo...sage198106/pg1
there's no sun spots because forces en route too and fro are no more; just waiting for the show and collection when its time. Care to explain why Sumerian cylinders are the origin of all religious texts we have today; and why do you consider this whistle blower stuff, its pretty evident false gods from Orion and drac have been warring since the start of this cycle when the reps came from an unknown Galaxy and started the war in Lyra. No I haven t read this thread cant get by the constant referral to false documents you make every post. See VA 243 depicts a false god dictating what we know as the bible. How do you expect to find the answers with half the info. I read when I feel something
Take Care
Balance to ALL

Norval 10-21-2008 08:46 AM

Re: Recent War in our Solar System By Norval & Gale
 
And the war continues, , , , now as an information war, against the disinformation and misdirection and misinformation, , hehe heh heh

wwolf67 10-21-2008 05:06 PM

Re: Recent War in our Solar System By Norval & Gale
 
Pot calling the kettle black brother
Ever heard the saying “you reap what you sow”
Instead of stringing everyone along why don’t you just get to the punch line and tell us when to expect Earth’s invasion
Reality is the invasion happened 450,000 years ago and as always when light enters a dark place the dark flees that’s why I pointed out the evacuation “ufo war over popo” at glp
This thread is nothing more than a false ET invasion Promo
A Picture is worth a thousand words
see link
http://www.bible-history.com/links.p...Art+%26+Images
Mystery of Sumerian civilization
http://knol.google.com/k/alexey-tsei.../11?locale=en#
Earth's Ancient History
http://www.earth-history.com/Babylon...ereshkigal.htm
Ancient Sumeria
Primary Author: Robert A. Guisepi
http://history-world.org/sumeria.htm
The Sumerian King List records all the rulers of Earth back over 400,000 years
http://www.crystalinks.com/sumerhistory.html
http://www.crystalinks.com/sumergods.html
E.Vegh
http://www.thelivingmoon.com/45starg...dex.html#books

http://www.sacred-texts.com/index.htm
Question When you started this thread and in the first few entries state your not religious and then you state on the following Saturday that you won’t post because it’s the Sabbath?
Balance to ALL

wwolf67 10-21-2008 05:20 PM

Re: Recent War in our Solar System By Norval & Gale
 
Another Warning

Avebury Down, nr Avebury, Wiltshire. Reported 28th September.
http://www.cropcircleconnector.com/2...n/ullens8a.jpg
http://www.cropcircleconnector.com/2...down/av14a.jpg

http://www.cropcircleconnector.com/2...ydown2008.html

Australian Scientist Comments On “Digital Barcode”

September 28, 2008 email to Earthfiles: “The new cross in maize on September 28, 2008, appears at first glance to be authentic, and shows a ‘barcode signature’ off to one side. It might be ASCII, since its first few digits (reading left to right, standing near the cross) look like 00100000, which was a ‘word spacer’ in the Crabwood message: [ See 081902 Earthfiles about alien face in Winchester wheat and 081902EarthfilesUpdate about code analysis.]

01 (start)
01000010S (B)
01100101S (e)
01110111S (w)
01100001S (a)
01110010S (r)
01100101S (e)
00100000S (space) ”

FOR MORE INFO SEE EARTHFILES http://www.earthfiles.com/news.php?I...ry=Environment

Balance to ALL

100thmonkey 10-21-2008 05:49 PM

Re: Recent War in our Solar System By Norval & Gale
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Norval (Post 56382)
You also may want to take note that the
EU and thunderbolts came along a couple years after Gale and I submitted our research to
NASA. Thus we think it is mostly misdirection and disinformation. As did many other sites.

As I gather you have been with Gale 7 years?
The Electric Universe has been in theory since at least the 70's, with others suspecting the same, back to Velikovsky and Tesla...

Regarding post 34, which I had read but saw that someone else had answered, it assumes arcing is stopped by distance and vacuum...?
Except the EU model shows the Universe is not just a vacuum:

"Mainstream science, for the most part, looks on the universe as electrically neutral and purely mechanical; a place where the weak force of gravity holds fort. Plasma Cosmology, by contrast, acknowledges the electrodynamic nature of the universe. Gravity and inertia are NOT the only forces at work.

...Plasma sometimes emits light when under the excitation of electrical and magnetic fields. Polar auroras bear witness to this fact.

...Plasma is almost everywhere. At least ninety-nine percent of the known universe is, in fact, matter in its plasma state!

...Because plasma remains electrically charged in space, it is influenced more by electromagnetic forces than gravity. In fact space, once considered mostly empty, has been found to be alive with plasma. Vast flows of charged particles have been discovered spanning hundreds-of-thousands of light years across interstellar space.

...Plasma is an excellent conductor of electricity. Because of its free-flowing electrons its conductive properties far surpass those of copper and gold."

http://www.plasmacosmology.net/

http://www.thunderbolts.info/tpod/20...olidplasma.htm
http://www.thunderbolts.info/tpod/20...050503eu-1.htm


Quote:

"I also don't discount the idea of ancient wars in space, etc. I think the ancient gods and angels were really the ET's..."

That comment would be classed misdirection for these reasons. This final war that was fought, in which our astronomers witnessed Mars being destroyed, was very recent, not ancient. Also that these so called gods ARE the ETs, not were the ETs.
It's not misdirection on my part. I'm not saying the ET's that were witnessed in ancient times are all gone, never to return. Indeed I think they are still around. They still 'were', as in 'in those days', the one's responsible for gifting certain technologies, as characters like Oannes, the fallen Watchers, etc.

However I think the 'wars' that were witnessed were plasma phenomena, along with planetary movements as described by Velikovsky, etc. That it was planetary collisions (or near misses) that produced the wreckage of Marduk as the Asteroid field, Phobos, Daemos, the scar on Mars, the shifting of Earth's orbit/axis, and so on.

These close passes of huge bodies in the solar system would have caused major electric arcing between themselves, causing not only the scars seen today but being interpreted as wars of the gods, cosmic serpents, etc.
http://www.thunderbolts.info/tpod/20...s-rock-art.htm
http://www.thunderbolts.info/tpod/20...n-rock-art.htm
http://www.thunderbolts.info/tpod/20...-mythology.htm
http://www.thunderbolts.info/tpod/20...513serpent.htm


Coinciding with mega-floods (as the earth's oceans spilled across continets), earthquakes and volcanoes, these times would certainly be recorded in myths and legends.
When combined with the actual contacts with ET's, as recorded by Sumerians, Egyptians, etc, you later get books like the bible (compiled from those two cultures during the two 'captivities' of the 'Israelites', and also mixed with native Canaanite stories).
http://www.thunderbolts.info/tpod/20...nderbolt-1.htm

100thmonkey 10-21-2008 06:04 PM

Re: Recent War in our Solar System By Norval & Gale
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by 100thmonkey (Post 57932)
...However I think the 'wars' that were witnessed were plasma phenomena, along with planetary movements as described by Velikovsky, etc. That it was planetary collisions (or near misses) that produced the wreckage of Marduk as the Asteroid field, Phobos, Daemos, the scar on Mars, the shifting of Earth's orbit/axis, and so on.

These close passes of huge bodies in the solar system would have caused major electric arcing between themselves, causing not only the scars seen today but being interpreted as wars of the gods, cosmic serpents, etc...

Here's a great little extract from Plato's 'History of Atlantis'

Plato's grandfather, Solon, questioned the priests in Egypt about early history.
Sonchis of Sais answers:

"…one of the priests, who was of very great age; said, 'O Solon, Solon, you Hellenes are but children, and there is never an old man who is an Hellene.'

Solon, bearing this, said, 'What do you mean?'

'I mean to say,' he replied, 'that in mind you are all young; there is no old opinion handed down among you by ancient tradition, nor any science which is hoary with age. And I will tell you the reason of this: there have been, and there will be again, many destructions of mankind arising out of many causes.

There is a story which even you have preserved, that once upon a time Phaëthon, the son of Helios, having yoked the steeds in his father's chariot, because he was not able to drive them in the path of his father, burnt up all that was upon the earth, and was himself destroyed by a thunderbolt.

Now, this has the form of a myth, but really signifies a declination of the bodies moving around the earth and in the heavens, and a great conflagration of things upon the earth recurring at long intervals of time: when this happens, those who live upon the mountains and in dry and lofty places are more liable to destruction than those who dwell by rivers or on the sea-shore; and from this calamity the Nile, who is our never-failing savior, saves and delivers us.

When, on the other hand, the gods purge the earth with a deluge of water, among you herdsmen and shepherds on the mountains are the survivors, whereas those of you who live in cities are carried by the rivers into the sea; but in this country neither at that time nor at any other does the water come from above on the fields, having always a tendency to come up from below, for which reason the things preserved here are said to be the oldest. The fact is, that wherever the extremity of winter frost or of summer sun does not prevent, the human race is always increasing at times, and at other times diminishing in numbers. And whatever happened either in your country or in ours, or in any other region of which we are informed - if any action which is noble or great, or in any other way remarkable has taken place, all that has been written down of old, and is preserved in our temples;

Whereas you and other nations are just being provided with letters and the other things which States require; and then, at the usual period, the stream from heaven descends like a pestilence, and leaves only those of you who are destitute of letters and education; and thus you have to begin all over again as children, and know nothing of what happened in ancient times, either among us or among yourselves.

As for those genealogies of yours which you have recounted to us, Solon, they are no better than the tales of children; for, in the first place, you remember one deluge only, whereas there were many of them; and, in the next place, you do not know that there dwelt in your land the fairest and noblest race of men which ever lived, of whom you and your whole city are but a seed or remnant.

And this was unknown to you, because for many generations the survivors of that destruction died and made no sign. For there was a time, Solon, before that great deluge of all, when the city which now is Athens was first in war, and was preeminent for the excellence of her laws, and is said to have performed the noblest deeds, and to have had the fairest constitution of any of which tradition tells, under the face of heaven.'

Solon marvelled at this, and earnestly requested the priest to inform him exactly and in order about these former citizens. 'You are welcome to hear about them, Solon,' said the priest, 'both for your own sake and for that of the city; and, above all, for the sake of the goddess who is the common patron and protector and educator of both our cities. She founded your city a thousand years before ours, receiving from the Earth and Hephæstus the seed of your race, and then she founded ours, the constitution of which is set down in our sacred registers as 8000 years old."

- continues into the famous story of Atlantis...

beauwalton@rocketmail.com 10-21-2008 06:06 PM

Re: Recent War in our Solar System By Norval & Gale
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by wwolf67 (Post 57905)
Another Warning

Avebury Down, nr Avebury, Wiltshire. Reported 28th September.
http://www.cropcircleconnector.com/2...n/ullens8a.jpg
http://www.cropcircleconnector.com/2...down/av14a.jpg

http://www.cropcircleconnector.com/2...ydown2008.html

Australian Scientist Comments On “Digital Barcode”

September 28, 2008 email to Earthfiles: “The new cross in maize on September 28, 2008, appears at first glance to be authentic, and shows a ‘barcode signature’ off to one side. It might be ASCII, since its first few digits (reading left to right, standing near the cross) look like 00100000, which was a ‘word spacer’ in the Crabwood message: [ See 081902 Earthfiles about alien face in Winchester wheat and 081902EarthfilesUpdate about code analysis.]

01 (start)
01000010S (B)
01100101S (e)
01110111S (w)
01100001S (a)
01110010S (r)
01100101S (e)
00100000S (space) ”

FOR MORE INFO SEE EARTHFILES http://www.earthfiles.com/news.php?I...ry=Environment

Balance to ALL

Hi Wolf, what are you trying to say? Beware space? We know that from the crop circles, what do you mean?

Gnosis5 10-21-2008 06:08 PM

Re: Recent War in our Solar System By Norval & Gale
 
As a clinical researcher my job is to throw out fresh ideas for others to mull over. The latest idea that has come to my attention is that we may actually be existing in a "pocket universe", not the actual physical universe, but a pocket of it which has a radius of about 1.3 lightyears. Now, who would want to do a thing like that? And why?

beauwalton@rocketmail.com 10-21-2008 07:01 PM

Re: Recent War in our Solar System By Norval & Gale
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Gnosis5 (Post 57952)
As a clinical researcher my job is to throw out fresh ideas for others to mull over. The latest idea that has come to my attention is that we may actually be existing in a "pocket universe", not the actual physical universe, but a pocket of it which has a radius of about 1.3 lightyears. Now, who would want to do a thing like that? And why?

Hi, can you describe a pocket universe?

Gnosis5 10-21-2008 07:08 PM

Re: Recent War in our Solar System By Norval & Gale
 
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pocket_universe

I guess the main concept is, "Toto, we aren't in Kansas anymore".

beauwalton@rocketmail.com 10-21-2008 07:24 PM

Re: Recent War in our Solar System By Norval & Gale
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Gnosis5 (Post 58011)
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pocket_universe

I guess the main concept is, "Toto, we aren't in Kansas anymore".

Thank you Gnosis!
Norval, Wolf has a good point.
You tell us all to drop religion and your observing the oldest religious custom there is, Sabbath.
Why?

Norval 10-21-2008 07:38 PM

Re: Recent War in our Solar System By Norval & Gale
 
, , , , , , , , , hangs his head and sighs.

wwolf67 10-21-2008 08:17 PM

Re: Recent War in our Solar System By Norval & Gale
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by beauwalton@rocketmail.com (Post 57951)
Hi Wolf, what are you trying to say? Beware space? We know that from the crop circles, what do you mean?

Honestly
I feel like its another bogus warning of an ET invasion

arcora 10-21-2008 08:40 PM

Re: Recent War in our Solar System By Norval & Gale
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by beauwalton@rocketmail.com (Post 58025)
Thank you Gnosis!
Norval, Wolf has a good point.
You tell us all to drop religion and your observing the oldest religious custom there is, Sabbath.
Why?

Is adhering to the ten commandments religious?

Bobbi 10-21-2008 08:54 PM

Re: Recent War in our Solar System By Norval & Gale
 
Does the bible not tell us that after six days of work you are to take a day off so your animals and workers can refresh?

My husband has been up since the wee hours of the morning and he's just now trying to take a nap. Give the guy a break. Don't any of you take a day, or sometimes two, off?

Love/Light 13 10-21-2008 09:14 PM

Re: Recent War in our Solar System By Norval & Gale
 
I for one would like to thank Norval (with a little help from Bobbi!) and Gale for their contributions to the forum. Their unique take on the ancient scripture of the Bible is a fascinating case study.

I am an Avalon member seeking Truth. Unfortunately i am not one of those members whom can claim to have found it yet. I have been studying deep history for long enough to know to have my internal disinfo filter activated always, and I know in my heart their are many Truths in the words of Norval and Gale.

Disagreement is normal. For instance, contrary to Norval I believe other ancient scriptures are important to study such as the Koran and Baghavad-Gita of Hindu belief. These texts can give us a fuller picture of all players involved in the equation.

We should not play a gotcha games with "wistleblowers" and other so-called experts posting on this site. If you are a member of this forum you should already know no one is 100% correct. No one. Let's respect our members...........

Have a good snooze Norval...............

L/L13

******************************

may WISDOM guide COMPASSION

"out of MANY, we are ONE"

Shadowstalker 10-21-2008 11:39 PM

Re: Recent War in our Solar System By Norval & Gale
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Norval (Post 31310)
Hi Tuza,

Read this to get that information, Thanks :original:

http://www.projectavalon.net/forum/s...ead.php?t=3194 :thumb_yello:


This is Phobos, a "moon" of Mars. Very little gravity as it is only about 20 miles big. Many scientists question it's origin,

http://photojournal.jpl.nasa.gov/jpe...367_modest.jpg

It looks like it was used for target practice

Namaste-Matte:wub2:

Shadowstalker 10-22-2008 12:25 AM

Re: Recent War in our Solar System By Norval & Gale
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by arcora (Post 58091)
Is adhering to the ten commandments religious?

Just because it is from a book that is called holy, does not make it religious, it's just common sense to do the right thing. And the Ten Commandments is not all together religious either, save for the first few about god and jealousy. The rest is common sense, so is the golden rule. I mean do we really need a god to tell us these things? I my self make all days a form of sabbath just by respecting myself and others. Does this make me religious? NO..

And is the sabbath truly religious or has it been made law to control the masses????

PEACE MY FRIENDS PEACE not judgement.

Namaste-Matte:wub2:

I am sure most people understand what I am getting at here.. my apologies if none here don't, I just don't have any other way of putting it.

Brinty 10-22-2008 12:33 AM

Re: Recent War in our Solar System By Norval & Gale
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by David (Post 25621)
Priorities first! If the wife's not happy, no one is happy :)

Never a truer word spoken. :thumb_yello: And often, it doesn't take a lot of effort - apart from chopping the wood. :original:

Nothing is more likely to make your life hell than an unhappy wife. :sad:

arcora 10-22-2008 12:50 AM

Re: Recent War in our Solar System By Norval & Gale
 
Thanks Shadow but it was a rhetorical question.

Shadowstalker 10-22-2008 12:54 AM

Re: Recent War in our Solar System By Norval & Gale
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by arcora (Post 58284)
Thanks Shadow but it was a rhetorical question.

OK then sorry, Usually when folks say things like that, it's not rhetorical..

Namaste-Matte:wub2:

Brinty 10-22-2008 03:25 AM

Re: Recent War in our Solar System By Norval & Gale
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Shechaiyah (Post 33743)
Some years ago, there was a page by a young kid, "Fallen," and I saved it.

He disappeared. But his scholarship in this regard, is amazing.

http://www.abidemiracles.com/fallen.htm

Printing it out, it goes to 95 color pages. Costs an arm and a leg to print.


If it's of any interest to those wanting to print this document but feel it is too costly, you can do what I did to reduce the cost.

1. Select the entire document then copy and paste into a word processor.
2. In the word processing program, select the entire document again and reduce font size to 10.
3. With the entire document still selected, change font colour to black.
4. Delete all pictures and diagrams.

By doing all the above, I was able to reduce the number of pages to 42 and there was no costly colour used.

ralok_j 10-22-2008 03:47 AM

Re: Recent War in our Solar System By Norval & Gale
 
So, these advanced ET's didn't have some form of guidance system for their weapons? Did they just let the projectiles fly and hope they would strike the intended target? Are you suggesting these "crator chains" are the result of target practice or projectiles that missed their mark?

beauwalton@rocketmail.com 10-22-2008 04:44 AM

Re: Recent War in our Solar System By Norval & Gale
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Norval (Post 58033)
, , , , , , , , , hangs his head and sighs.

I have to work Saterday's Norval, it worry's me constantly, should I be observing Sabbath? And what about other Bible feest day's should we be observing them? Is it important or not!

BeaTnik-BandiT 10-22-2008 04:45 AM

Re: Recent War in our Solar System By Norval & Gale
 
Hi Norval and Gale,
Ok....I am no expert in Bible decoding, but i have spend much time in reading accounts from alternative/conspiracy researchers, regarding our 'manipulated' human history.

My goal here is of course is to find the CAUSE/ACTORS and the TIME FRAME of this 'recent War' in the solar system. :lightsabre:
So i would like to know YOUR take on these different accounts which have several details in common:


1- There is Immanuel Velikovsky (Worlds in Collision) who said that Venus could have been the planetoid that created havoc and destruction in the solar system 'recently' in terms of geological time.
The PTBs were discrediting and chasing him to make sure his life was miserable. No wonder that Velikovsky put his finger onto something.

2-David Icke (The Biggest Secret) says quite the same thing about Venus.
It was seen as a comet, or kind a big fireball with long 'hairs' in the sky, with kind of the same results of awe and destruction.

3- Stewart Swerdlow (Blue Blood True Blood) says that before the Earth was colonised:
Reptilians (Alpha Draconis) seeking conquest hurled a planetoid (maybe comet ?) weapon aimed at Mars and Maldek. Theses were supposedly colonised by renegade humanoid factions of the Lyrae constellation. Before the clash, Maldekians took refuge on Mars. As a result, Maldek exploded (asteroid belt?) and Mars lost most of it's atmosphere. And then, this 'weapon planetoid' stopped it's course where it's located today, known as planet Venus.

Unfortunately, Swerdlow doesn't gives a time range.

4- Michael Tsarion (Atlantis, Alien visitation + genetic manipulation) says
that approximately 50,000 years ago, a planetary body named 'Tiamat' (My note:could be 'Maldek' ?) has been mysteriously destroyed.
It was believed to have existed between Mars and Jupiter. He talks about this event to be Earth's first Deluge.

Here an excerpt from page 5 and 6 :

'' Around the time of this event, the solar system, and later the Earth, was colonised by extra-terrestrial beings who were either attracted to this solar system by that conflagration, or upon coming here caused the calamity themselves. Whether the disaster was natural or not, the result was that mankind on Earth experienced total and long lasting chaos and confusion.
.....It is thought that the alien invaders took full advantage of this predicament and moved in to bring about colonization.
.....some theorists, like the energetic Erik Von Dakinen have also determined that there was a great intergalactic war in the neighboring galaxy or solar system. The result of this titanic war had enormeous consequences for the Earth because, it is postulated, the losers (My note: the Atlans or Atlanteans) on being pursued pretended to take refuge on Tiamat. They even erected a makeshift radar-type station there to decoy their pursuers. However, the defeated ones had already taken refuge on Earth, not on Tiamat. Upon their arrival, they almost immediately went underground into existing caverns that through scans of the planet they knew existed.''

Wonderful isn't it ? (sounds like pure fiction at first sight, hehe) :original:

Michael Tsarion says that the Nephilim/Atlanteans established their headquarters, Atlantis, on the continent of Appalachia.To make a storyshort, they made many genetic experimentations. They created a first slave race with the indigenous Earth inhabitants (with the same intellectual capacities as their creators) that eventually came into rebellion and left for Lemuria, were they became technologically advanced.

Then the Nephilim/Atlanteans created a second slave race that came to leave as well for Lemuria to join their 'Earthly' cousins.

excerpt from page 35:

'' The ire of the Atlanteans at this snubbing was so intense that they unleashed an atomic war on the ''sons of the Serpent'' and their Adamic wards, now resident on Lemuria (Oceania)....''

According to Tsarion, this war could be well have occured in very recent times, around the end of Pleistocene, roughly 11,500 years ago.
Recent discoveries are bringing the hypothesis that a 'comet' or whatever thing from outer space exploded over the Earth.

5- D.S Allan and J.B. Delair (Cataclysm) as genuine and well-intentioned scientists, concluded that a (or many) big object (Phaeton) brought destruction in our solar system as a result of the explosion of a supernova.- The Vela supernova- an exploded star, was unusually close, (45 light years) from our solar system. Calculations suggest that it erupted some 14,300 years ago.

Excerpt from page 210:

'' The above-cited detail that the astronomically close Vela supernova exploded sometine between 14,300 and 11,000 years ago indicates that, allowing for the time taken by Phaeton to traverse interstellar space between the pint of its original disruption - 45 light years distant - and the outer confines of the solar system, the planetary derangements under discussion took place approximately 11,500 years ago !

Assuming for the moement that Phaeton, after initially disrupting, subsequently traversed at high velocity on a course destined to bisect the solar system, it need not have actually moved at more than one fiftieth (1/50) of the speed of light to have covered the distance represented by 45 light years in just a few hundred years. ''

To finish, they concluded that this celestial body traversed the solar system, created havoc on Earth (possible pole shift, tidal waves, extinction of many animals, plants, shifts of Earth crust, etc). It caused the explosion of Tiamat (Maldek?) to finally disappear while heading toward the sun.(evidence missing)

- What comes to mind is that destructive events occured between 50,000 and 11,500 years ago.

- The 3 first accounts are concluding that Venus played the center part of a 'Natural' or a 'War' event in the solar system's recent history.

- The 2 last accounts are concluding with scientific proofs for a global scale event around 11,500 years ago.




salute. :cup: :cup::cup:

Norval 10-22-2008 05:06 AM

Re: Recent War in our Solar System By Norval & Gale
 
Shadow,
Yes it does look like target practice don't it.

Thank you Brinty,
I found that information worth saving also.

Hey yah Beau,
Relax, unless your heart is condemning yah, then don't do it. Our Father has worked on His day
off, and so did Jesus, so relax. Do what yah gots to do.

Beatnik,
Thank you, but we sold the T-shirts, we promote using the bible as the book to compare all other
information against.

Now if yah all don't mind, I am taking a break for a bit. :original:
Make sure of all things.
Keep looking up.

wwolf67 10-22-2008 05:11 AM

Re: Recent War in our Solar System By Norval & Gale
 
Posting on sci forums has put you in a permanent defensive mode if I thought you were a spook Id say so Trust me I know how long you have been pushing the craterchain stuff. the war is almost over GETs win the BETS still here have to play it out Shoemaker was deliberately broken up
If you ask me you were doing better for your cause before you started making the bible connections based around fear
Remember these days “fieryice is a sock puppet, and has been banned.” Don’t get me wrong Phil P is a real tool of the dark
Or this you lost me on this thread
http://bb.nightskylive.net/asterisk/...8470af505247b1
Ive seen your craterchains stuff for years now never have I disagreed about the wars but
EU is a fact and
The bible is a control tool based on fear and half truths
The Jesus you claim is coming back was sent here from Orion as part of the Karma sloughing on us experiment… their bad karma picked up in the orion wars to us
Times running out I’m here for Mother Earth; there only going tobe between 6-7 million here after the cleanse I’m real excited about the events coming. The invasion is almost over. When the sun stops spinning its going to birth a new planet. Popo is one of the busiest vortexes. Jupiter will light up. Of the ETs in our vicinity 90% are GETs; they’ll take the seeds that aren’t ready to exist on a 5D Mother to where they need tobe
GET’s have a freewill clause that prohibits them from say… dictating the bible
BET’s don’t play by the same rules….. STS
Question why was your other site called Kingdomofyhwh
I know for a fact you’ve seen the sacred texts link alot how come you ignore the info on that site you'll find your answers there.
In my most heart felt feelings You are under the spell cast by the bible toss it overboard before its too late
Love Light and Balance to you Brother

Bobbi 10-22-2008 05:18 AM

Re: Recent War in our Solar System By Norval & Gale
 
ralok j:

To quote my husband, who is a war veteran:

"If all bullets had found their mark, wars would last days, not years."

Brinty 10-22-2008 05:44 AM

Re: Recent War in our Solar System By Norval & Gale
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Norval (Post 58427)
Shadow,
Yes it does look like target practice don't it.

Thank you Brinty,
I found that information worth saving also.


Page numbers can be cut back further still if margins are reduced. I've manged to squeeze it all onto 36 pages. Oh, I also 'left justified' the whole lot and then 'back spaced' to remove the lines wasted by 'centring'. There is one panel near the end that wouldn't fit on the page so I had to reduce the font size in it to 8.

beauwalton@rocketmail.com 10-22-2008 05:58 AM

Re: Recent War in our Solar System By Norval & Gale
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by wwolf67 (Post 58431)
Posting on sci forums has put you in a permanent defensive mode if I thought you were I spook Id say so Trust me I know how long you have been pushing the craterchain stuff. the war is over GETs won the BETS still here have to play it out Shoemaker was deliberately broken up
If you ask me you were doing better for your cause before you started making the bible connections based around fear
Remember these days “fieryice is a sock puppet, and has been banned.” Don’t get me wrong Phil P is a real tool of the dark
Or this you lost me on this thread
http://bb.nightskylive.net/asterisk/...8470af505247b1
Ive seen your craterchains stuff for years now never have I disagreed about the wars but
EU is a fact and
The bible is a control tool based on fear and half truths
The Jesus you claim is coming back was sent here from Orion as part of the Karma sloughing on us experiment… their bad karma picked up in the orion wars to us
Times running out I’m here for Mother Earth; there only going tobe between 6-7 million here after the cleanse I’m real excited about the events coming. The invasion is almost over. When the sun stops spinning its going to birth a new planet. Popo is one of the busiest vortexes. Jupiter will light up. Of the ETs in our vicinity 90% are GETs; they’ll take the seeds that aren’t ready to exist on a 5D Mother to where they need tobe
GET’s have a freewill clause that prohibits them from say… dictating the bible
BET’s don’t play by the same rules….. STS
Question why was your other site called Kingdomofyhwh
I know for a fact you’ve seen the sacred texts link alot how come you ignore the info on that site you'll find your answers there.
In my most heart felt feelings You are under the spell cast by the bible toss it overboard before its too late
Love Light and Balance to you Brother

No your wrong!
The Bible is good and is a perfect tool to live your life. It´s religion that is a control tool based on fear and half truths and that is the point Norval is trying to get over, Jesus promissed he would be coming back to sort out this mess, I would say you can count on Jesus!

Shadowstalker 10-22-2008 05:59 AM

Re: Recent War in our Solar System By Norval & Gale
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by ralok_j (Post 58377)
So, these advanced ET's didn't have some form of guidance system for their weapons? Did they just let the projectiles fly and hope they would strike the intended target? Are you suggesting these "crator chains" are the result of target practice or projectiles that missed their mark?

On the contrary I think they hit there target the way they where meant to.
And who said anything about missing a target... Not me..

And I said they look like target practice yes...

But in any sense one would still need to calibrate there targeting systems would they not, I mean consider the size of the object.

And if you consider they maybe using a type of pulse laser (tho' I may have that phrased wrong) then that would make sense, Or a type of Photon type weapon like in ST:NG, then yes, that would make sense.

Imagine calibrating your systems to target a small chain of Islands or to destroy ley lines on any given planet.

And this moon is where, near Mars? And only 20 mile wide? hmmm that would make sense considering that no one lives there anymore... Or at least folk claim nothing is living there any longer..

But that was fun to ponder on I must say..
Namaste-Matte:wub2:
.

wwolf67 10-22-2008 06:08 AM

Re: Recent War in our Solar System By Norval & Gale
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by beauwalton@rocketmail.com (Post 58447)
No your wrong!
The Bible is good and is a perfect tool to live your life. It´s religion that is a control tool based on fear and half truths and that is the point Norval is trying to get over, Jesus promissed he would be coming back to sort out this mess, I would say you can count on Jesus!

GET’s have a freewill clause that prohibits them from say… dictating the bible
truth

beauwalton@rocketmail.com 10-22-2008 06:40 AM

Re: Recent War in our Solar System By Norval & Gale
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by wwolf67 (Post 58451)
GET’s have a freewill clause that prohibits them from say… dictating the bible
truth

I don´t understand!


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