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Hi Abrax, thanks for your reply. Basicly, I really started reading the Urantia book few years ago...but I only started...as I didn't found the concepts presented there being in tune with my own vibrational state at that time, nor I have the feeling I must go back and read the whole book.
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hey abrax... why do you live in canberra? is it somewhere you think is safe? or you have no need to be safe in a physical form?
i am as curious as anyone else about you.. and i am just happy your only 3 hrs away, and that one day we may meet... i live in orange nsw.. i have followed this forum and project camelot from day dot. i am concerned for my and my kids future. their protection is of my only importance and i have to try to protect them from a distance. i have, from a very early age new that the way our race is living is not how it was meant to live. i have known there is something out there i cannot reach just yet.. i was told once that by the age of 35 i would get what i am after.. but that is still a few yrs away.. do you see me obtaining my/universal truth? i would be interested in getting your email in a private message and we could exchange a few teachings to help me raise my vibrations a little more.. so i could raise my childrens too make them stronger... because i am afraid the people they are around drain what i try to manifest in them.. bennycog is back |
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Abraxas,
Your posts continue to amaze me and thank you for your comments. You state that the rising of Gaia from the 4th to the 5th dimensions is an event of universal proportions which is truly an exciting proposition and I tremble at the thought! However, will all or most, humans recognize this transition or phase shift? (it would seem that they should even into the 3D) Or is it that experiences of these transformations are reserved only for the select few of higher ‘esoteric’ conscious vibration. If that is the case then isn’t this just another ‘elitist’ ascension practice that only the ‘chosen few’ are ‘allowed’ to recognize or understand? (the world is full of stories such as these like the followers of Hailbop or the Jonestown believers) Why would it be so difficult to find the ‘mirroring’ of these ‘manifestations’ that are to come into the 3D as is the creation? Without 3D confirmations… (from where we experience most of our awareness and human impressions) what’s the point? (I think this is what Jesus faced with his disciples except for the fact that he rose from death to show that death had no hold on him) These beautiful things that you speak of can seemingly be proven by mathematics? ( my heart wants you to be right but my mind… hmmm) Of the billions on this earth, how many can follow the mathematics? How can you prove that it is true, even to yourself if there is not 3D confirmation? I hear a few on these forums talk about existing for billions of years or millions of lifetimes or coming from the 12th, 24th, or 50th dimensions or from wherever. (as far as I know they could all be delusional human beings in 3D, even though they claim they are not… yeah right and I’m the Easter Bunny… who rides on roller skates around my spherical universe that only expands in proportion to the speed with which I accelerate my skates) So can you point to definitive 3D experiences ‘most’ should recognize as these transformations begin to unfold and to manifest? And by what period of time will these events have occurred? Peace |
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Thanks for your work Sirebard Beardris. A true composition. The amount of space and time is incredible. In each, our own universe brought together by love. A mystery revealed and a new one begins...
The past and future are fluid, stories become stories but the source is still the same. Amazing to think how much is created from this, growing against infinity, only to ebb and flow with love forever.... |
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step A - do this step B - do that step C - boil for 5 minutes etc... :) Do not know hot to un-generalize it... But I think I have managed to make a "thesis" of a sort (from the given answers)...something that almost anyone can "like" and use....although it may be generalized...and it may lack the "details" necessary to implement it. Details were "overlooked" since it can be...for example..hard to explain how to make omlet du fromage with an electric kitchen appliances to the stone age man. Or I might just lack the necessary background (like voyager and urantia books etc) For example Rok=18+15+11=44=DD I have 0 idea about "my number" being 44 etc (my first name is Rok) But than again...it might not matter..since at one stage...I might as well find out that the infromation in the books has been either falsified or requires additional "hard-core" studies (of the Sumerian tablets for example)...since...when can one actually say that he/she can entirely comprehend it? When can (if even) one distinct between following the infromation and actually understanding the infromation? To all that might be interested... my "master thesis" : :trumpet: :wall: :original: Us people see what we want to see, we create this with our thoughts. Our thoughts are the result of what we perceive with our senses. By thinking about something we help to manifest it. All that is, is our own doing, here for us to experience it and learn from it. To learn to appreciate what could one day be a harmony of life. Each can be individual. Each can choose his/her own way of individuality. You choose what to believe. You choose what to create. You choose what to be. You choose what to experience. There are no mistakes. There are just learning experiences. No fear of someone telling you what you must do. No fear of someone dictating you the rules on how you must do it. No fear of someone doing it for you. You can/will hold the responsibility for everything you create. At the end of all things, the final choice is always yours to make. Your life, your choice. Coming from within you or from some outside stimulus...the choice you make is yours...no one else can do it for you. I think this is something almost (almost!=all) anyone can relate to. This is something I can call a Free Will (with 1 exception) Are you a smiling, slim, long black-haired girl in your twenties and you just made a choice to trans-locate to my bed and it did not work? Are you a space "freak" and just made a choice to teleport to Mars and it did not work? Why it did not work? It might be that you are simply not the "master of the universe" and would actually need a space craft or something? (about the girl part...if you happen to be in the area I believe something can be arranged...a "jump room to jump bedroom" :) have fun people...or at least...try to |
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Thank you Abrax for explaining those things for me.
We are all one yes, higher/ lower i have always said there are many worlds within worlds and we walk these worlds as higher levels or lower ones. This makes sense. And we are all mirror images /parallels. Some say they have almost met with their other self i have not experienced this can i ask what would happen if this occurred or is this impossible.Am i confusing this with a doppleganger and what is a doppleganger anyway. Memories are coming back to me and through regression i have seen who i was / am which was very humbling when you re- connect it is the most wonderful thing to experience. |
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Everything is perfect M1 * Adamui Commander Adam Abraxas Inspector General :welcomeani: |
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Abraxas --
thanks for your answers to my previous questions, but--at the risk of pestering you--i would like to ask if you would focus on the part of my 1st question (i haven't figured out how to cut & paste it onto this message...duh!) which has to do with the relative awareness of those 3-d entities NOT ascending. will there be fear, sadness, joy, jealously or simply Unawareness on the part of these who are doing something else besides ascending, re: this ascension of those they may even know or be close-to? i think perhaps this is something Bigmo is also asking about in a post above. 2) Abraxas ..... i am having a good bit of difficulty understanding how only 144,000 human entities (approx. 1 out of 50,000 per 7.2 billion earth-inhabitants) will be evolved enough to ascend at this coming major transition. this just seems like such a low number to me ..... even just considering the people i know myself. since it's been stated numerous times (in LoO at least) that if one is even "51%" oriented toward service-to-others, one is "capable of" ascension ........ does this not render the "144,000" a rather pessimistic prognostication? is this number symbolic perhaps (though i haven't gotten that impression from you)? i DO realize that everyone not ascending will progress appropriately through other experiences and that "all will be well" for each of us "shards," no matter the particular outcome for any one of us during this dramatic shift ....... but these calculations/predictions of how many will be able to ascend "soon" somehow just don't resonate with me. Please Help! fondly, hippihill |
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Hello Abraxas,
How are you doing? Good I hope. I wanted to ask you about a dream I had when I was around 4 or 5 years old. In this dream there was nothing. Meaning I felt myself in a vastness of empty space. The color of this vastness was black and all that i could see, hear, feel. was my own voice/consciousness. I remember waking up crying because for some reason i had the feeling that it was what death was. I ran to my father telling him i didnt want to die. lol. What do you think an experience/dream like that represents? Thank you joey |
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Peace unto you abraxasinas,
I haven't posted here in a while until this thread caught my attention. I'm familiar with alot of the concepts you have explained here in layman terms but without the scientific terminology/equations etc. and the Thubanese perspective. I find it quite interesting and I have a many questions to ask, so i'll begin with this: 1. As you spoke about the founders and also the elders and the council of 24, I immediately thought about the Etherians and the Anunnagi. Can you speak of the Etherians? 2. Do you have information regarding the Serafim. You made mention of cherubim earlier. |
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Noone has any need to 'be safe' from the greater soul perspective. In the ultimate perspective nothing exists exept you in nospace and in notime. A pretty 'forlorn' thought is it not? So you find yourself in space and in time and seemingly separate from so many things. Yet, realising that the 'outside world' simply becomes a largely magnified picture of your 'inside world'; you might arrive at the understanding that you are having an adventure and that you are Living Your Own Dream. Your concerns for your family are very natural and physical transformations do occur and will continue to occur in divers proportions. In that regard allow me to share the sisterhood of the continents as decoded from the older encodings in the archives of Thuban. In the continental table of the lands and kinships; anyone of YOU becomes a global citizen or 'earthling' with many colour-skins 'living' anywhere in the planetary environments. The first classification predates the scriptural references applied elsewhere and is known as 'Egyptian mythology' linked to 'alien omni science'. 1=KHU=SPIRIT=ELECTROMAGNETOMONOPOLIC WORMHOLE RADIATION 2=AB=HEART=VIBRATORY RESONANCE SOURCESINK EIGENSTATE 3=SAHU=YANGMIND=BODYWAVE=PARTICLEWAVE QUANTUMNATURE 4=BA=SOUL=HOLOGRAPHIC SELFSIMILAR WAVICLE MERKABAH 5=SEKHEM=YINMIND=WAVEBODY=WAVICULAR QUANTUMNATURE 6=KA=ASTRAL MINDBODY=INERTIAPHOTONIC VIBRATORY EIGENSTATE 7=KHAT=BODY=SINKSOURCE INERTIAL RESONANCE SELFSTATE 1=Kinship of WhiteSkins of Father-Sky in a Rainbow Arcticus Cyani 2=Kinship of BlackSkins of Mother-Earth in a Rainbow Antarcticus Magenti 3=Kinship of GreenSkins of Elemental-Child in a Rainbow Indianus Oceanis 4=Kinship of YellowSkins of Elemental Fire of the Lights in a Rainbow Pacificus Boreas OutSim 5=Kinship of BrownSkins of Elemental Earth of the Lands in a Rainbow Atlanticus Eurus InSim 6=Kinship of BlueSkins of Elemental Air of the Winds in a Rainbow Pacificus Auster InSim 7=Kinship of RedSkins of Elemental Water of the Seas in a Rainbow Atlanticus Zephyrus OutSim 1='The Land of my Lost Sheep and my Found Goat'=EPHESUS---{Revelation.2.1-7} 2='The Land of my Origins in the RNA'=SMYRNA---{Revelation.2.8-17} 3='The Land of my Grapes and Sounds in Om and Noises'=PERGAMOS---{Revelation.2.12-17} 4='The Land of my Theatres and my Crowns'=THYATIRA---{Revelation.2.18-29} 5='The Land of my Rising in Sadness and Hope'=SARDIS---{Revelation.3.1-6} 6='The Land of my Oracles of Love and Poles'=PHILADELPHIA---{Revelation.3.7-13} 7='The Land of my Loaded Dice and Lead in Coins'=LAODICEA---{Revelation.3.8-22} The Seven 'Lands' are also Seven Sisters and are permutatively assigned to the namings of the Pleiadean Sisters: Alcyone-Electra-Maia-Merope-Taygeta-Celaeno-Asterope from their 'Parents' Atlas and Pleione=Shu and Tefnut as the Egyptian Cosmic Lion Twinship in a relevant association. 1=Europe; 2=Africa; 3=Middle East; 4=Asia; 5=Southern America; 6=Australasia; 7=Northern America in a VERY generalised geographical association. As stated, ALL Seven Sisters are part of each other and so the Canadian is a Laodicean and a Philadelphian and an Ephesian and so on in varying percentages say. This nomenclature then even further finestructures in the Individual, able to 'perceive and think' in such 'ID expansive terms'. Of course you can email me privately, but in general I prefer open sharing as it is the PERSONAL STORIES, which especially in this time of cosmic transformations, which are of the MOST VALUE for the 'Oversoul' of Humanity, say the cosmic ID and intelligence, which is comprised of all the 'Higher Selves' or similar labellings. This is also of course related to the concept of Prime Source or Creator or 'God' the latter label, having become greatly distorted over the last century of human history, desiring redefinition through and by its LOGOS. By the time of you attaining a biological age of 35, there will be a new world for your children to experience their adventures as Children of the Universe in. Abraxas |
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Hi again Abraxas,
I posted some question above and would to know what you think. Namaste |
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You have spoken in the wisdom of one of the 24 ancient ones. You have written in the authority of Thuban. Love, being the self-energy eigenstate of the Primal Source is to only Rule! Welcome Home, Your Logos is the master templar of Thuban. Abraxas |
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You have as many Shadows as you allow to be. The 1st hand archetype is the Khaibit say as the Number 9 in the Tree of Life or the Hebrew Kabbalah. The 'Tree of Life' is found in the 'Garden of Eden', the Paradise WITHIN YOU. It is not some external place in some faraway galaxy or at the center of the earth. Then 2nd hand and 3rd hand information attempts to manifest and rename this archetype. From this the concept of the 'Mirror Self' and the 'Doppelgaenger' develops. The 'Mirror-Self' is also the part of your Soul which DID NOT incarnate as Jacqui, but as your 'missing cosmic twinship' say. If you would have been born a boy, Jack, then all your life you would be 'looking' for your missing bit(s). There is also a real true Sister-Jacqui and a Brother-Jack by the Sex-Chromosome combinations: YX1; YX2; X0X1 and X0X2. Your incarnational Jacqui is say X0X1 and say yourself as your own nonincarnate sister X0X2 might be inclined to be bisexual in her attraction to the feminine. Iow your shadows and doppelgaengers harmonise the human sexuality in a quadruplicity of being Four in One. Your returning memories are preparing you to accept your Family-Soul; this family being YOU independent from biological birthgivers, as the archetype of the original Cosmic LoveChild of God in the YX|XY mirror of AdamEve=Vitruvius of Leonardo da Vinci and other labellings. Abraxas |
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LoL Abraxasinas the last part (mars, girls) was not directly directed at you but it was meant for the "general public", for someone that would test the free will by making "out-world" demands...
But your answers are very interesting. :) thx I hope my "thesis" will be of use to those that "think in the same way as I do". And also my little "contribution" to those that refuse to read from start to the end... i think i will go into the observer mode and be quit now, for a while |
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Dear me, no my dear Steven! You have misunderstood the reply. The Andromedan stated, through Alex Collier, that they DID NOT KNOW where the 'elders' came from. This and the opening of the 12th dimension. I did understand your reply, but I disagree with your statement about the "elder". You are free to disagree with anything given as data from Thuban. I then outlined in some detail, that the Draconians (of Collier) as well as the Lyrans (of Collier) are the GrandChildren of the 'founding elders'. As you see, there is a missing generation - the Paa Taal (Collier), who are the 'common ancestors' of both the 'Draconian ' 'Dark STS' brotherhood say and the 'Lyran' 'Light STO' brotherhood (which then (Collier) gave issue to the Pleiadeans and the humans). You have a very strong perspective of generation and lineage. It is good, but not absolute. We are all brothers and sisters under Creation, there is no hierarchy of importance in the hand of Creator. We are not from the lineage of the draconians, we are from a different composure. Draconians and dows are races hydrogen based form of life, while we human are oxygen based. We might have draconian DNA, but it was done unnaturally. This is your cosmology Steven and it is not 1st hand as your invocation of hydrogen based lifeforms indicates. It is true that all are equal, yet the lineage of the generations exists. Before you can be a Father of Children you must be a Son and before you can become a GrandFather you must be a Father of Children This is not judgement or hierarchy, but a natural order of things. The ultimate graduation and destiny of ALL is that of being Creator-Creation Oneself. This will allow the Creator of the Universe which you experience NOW to become a GrandCreator. Your destiny so is to act as a Son of the Creator and LEARN the Creator-Trade and to GROW UP to FATHER your OWN UNIVERSE. ONLY THEN, will you give your FATHER the Joy of becoming a GRANDFATHER. You are NOT a FATHER before you are a SON on the ultimate level. Because YOU have called me your child, I have reflected this back to you calling you my Grandchild. I KNOW of what 'hierarchy' I speak of. Once you Know how to create a universe in the capacity of a Father of the Cosmos; THEN shall I call you MY Brother and not before. You are destined to be such and you can indeed assume the mantle and office of an elder ONCE you have learned to interpret the archetypes of creation. Some on this forum I indeed call an equal elder in understanding. Nowhere did I even mention your 'Great Galactic War' as being anything else but a 'war between archetypes'. I did however separate the observer perspective of Andromeda as being extragalactic, whilst the 'Alpha Draconians', as well as the Lyran-Pleiadean-Human perspectives are from the intergalactic observation platform. Yes, I understand your statement that your point of view (Thuban records) is from a higher perspective than the andromedans from Collier. But I simply do not believe it. You are free to believe and disbelieve as you so may wish. Then I attempted to clarify the Paa Taal as being a 'unified' observation point and I should have clarified, that this unified perspective 'transcends' all of your and Collier's notion of the 'Great Galactic War' in this galaxy and as say observed by the Andromdean extragalactic viewpoint. You can write your own story about those 'wars of the Stars' OR you can accept the many other legends about those wars in editorial function or copycat fashion. Or you can believe the "Thuban records" like you do. I do not believe them, that is why my point of view differ. You are honoured by the Thuban Council in your choice to reject this information. So yes, the Draconians (and all other races) are descendants from the Elders but the Elders are 'a generation' removed through the intermissiary of the Paa Taal. As the participants of the 'Great Galactic Wars' are all akin 'Grandchildren' of the Elders and akin Children of the Paa Taal; all of them remain 'in ambivalence' or mystery as to their origins. Once again, it does not matter where you come from in the face of Creator, we are all sisters and brothers equal in the perspective of Creation that hold us all in consciousness. There is no proclaimed superior race, no decree written by Creation to let one race "rule" over another. Draconians are foreign to our universe, but welcome to live in peace as long as they accept to respect "Freewill" of self evolution without intervention. This is not from me, but from what Creation tells me. You can of course disagree and think I'm completely dreaming me inner knowledge, it is something that does not bother me. I expect the same attitude from you of course. Without clearly defining the terms you use, such as "Draconians are foreign to our universe'; your suppositions and understandings remain speculative blendings of 2nd and 3rd handed accounts you have encountered from divers sources, which you then compare with the information shared here under the label of the 'Data from Thuban'. You can attempt to induce me to 'describe' the 'Great Galactic Wars' until the holy cows of Hathor return from Egypt, I will not do so. In your attempt to contradict my data base by and through your comparative data obtained by a variety of other sources and authors; you are conveniently omitting my statement, that all of those 'star wars records' depict secondary and tertiary accounts and manifestations of the archetypes FOUNDED by the Elders and MANIFESTED by the Paa Taal and then RECORDED by the Third Generation. The only sources I used to dialogue with you is my inner knowledge, and Alex Collier message received from the andromedans. The "Great Galactic War" came to be when draconians where "sent" in our Universe. They were established in the Alpha draconis star system. Being evolved as explorer they went to the Lyrian Star system and imposed their point of view of Creation to the Lyrians. The Lyrians refused to be treated as an "under race" and the dracoids did not like it. That is how the "Great Galatic War" began and it last for long. Since then, dracoids formed alliance with other races and tries to influence the course of natural evolution of emerging race, like ours here and now... This is just such a 3rd handed account you have used to construct your own individual cosmology in your divinely sanctioned attempt to become a Universe Maker. Indeed your inner guidance will guide you; sometimes into directions and understandings hitherto unforeseen and unexpected. As member of the Council of Thuban, I observe the many records of the 'story telling' of OUR Grandchildren. There is no need for me to IMAGE another accord for this, as the Archetypology described to you in some detail, ENCOMPASSES ALL of such stories and legends. Again, same answer. I understand your statement that the "Thuban records" are from higher perspective and encompass all our data and understanding. I just do not agree with this statement, I find it manipulative and tyrannical. Your definition of what the labels 'manipulative' and 'tyrannical' mean in associativity with archetypological semiotics may differ from the Thubanese definitions. You cannot contradict my database dear Grandchild. Perhaps it would be advisable for you to discover who your parents are, before you question the wisdom of the Elders. I can disagree with your data base and I can say it is wrong. I am not trying to convince you, but I expect the same from you, that is "Freewill". I am son of Creation dear brother. I am not your grandchild, but your brother, equal in all manners. I am free and responsible of my consciousness and all repercussion of my act around me because I know the Universal Laws that encompass all Existence. I can question the wisdom of the elders because I am a soul connected to Creation. I expect the "wisdom of the elders" to respect my "Freewill" and the "Freewill" of all inhabitant of the Universe. As said above; you will become and graduate to be 'my brother', when you have found your sonship to OUR COMMON FATHER. It is neither in my authority nor in my desire to 'judge' you or the time this is so. Your 'inner guidance' might do so however. Simply relative to my understanding you are not yet my brother due to the criteria stated before. Corollarily, you are free to consider me your brother or child or opponent or deceiver or whatever in any form you wish in the free will of your relativity applied to yourself and all of your environmental interactions. Grandpa Abraxas Father Abraxas |
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