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Ashatav 09-08-2008 10:14 AM

Why never talk about the top of the pyramid: The Jesuits?
 
That's.

Why is the reason?

Please, read Vatican Assassins 3er Edition. 1836 pags all about the Vatican and the Jesuits controling, the CFR, New Age movements, Knights of Malta, Masons, World Bank, zionist, etc. All of the creepy organizations!

Look in google for the Alberto Ribera's story. The Chicks publications about his life, you can read some of the comics here:

http://www.chick.com/reading/comics/...thersindex.asp

You can watch this amazing lecture about the Secret Behind the Secret Societies


The only media who touch this Super-important topic is the Dr. Bill Deagle's Nutrimedical Report Show in Genesis Radio Network, he isn't afraid of it.

You can see it here : www.nutrimedical.com and www.clayandiron.com

You can listen it here any time: http://www.gcnlive.com/Programs/Nutr...On_Demand.html

You can see some jesuits facts here: http://www.clayandiron.com/news.jhtm...w&news.id=1511


Some famous Jesuits quotes:


"In a country where there are Jesuits, they must either rule or the country must go to ruin, it is they who rule the world." -Luigi Desanctis, official Censor of the Inquisition, Protestant Reformed pastor (1852)


"The Illuminati consist of the Jesuits and some of the world's richest families including the Rothschilds, the Rockefellers and the Windsors. While they pay lip service to religion, they worship Lucifer. Their agents control the world's media, education, business and politics. These agents may think they are only pursuing success, but success literally means serving the devil. Prisoners of their wealth, the Illuminati prefer hatred and destruction to Love. Understandably, they can't go public with this. They pretend to be moral while working behind the scenes to degrade and enslave humanity in a "new world order." Hiroshima, Dresden, Auschwitz, Cambodia and Rwanda were sacrifices to their god Lucifer. They are responsible for the two World Wars, the Depression and the Cold War. Sept. 11, the War on Terror and the Iraq War are their latest achievements". The Illuminati Conspiracy Against God by HENRY MAKOW PhD


"That the Jesuits were the disturbers of kingdoms, the oppressors of nations, the masters of the world, I freely admit." -Marcel de la Roche Arnauld, Roman Catholic Priest (1827)


"The Society of the Jesuits has the power to hide the sun, and make men blind and deaf to its caprice." -Montlarc (circa 1700)


"It is my opinion that if the liberties of this country - the United States of America - are destroyed, it will be by the subtlety of the Roman Catholic Jesuit priests, for they are the most crafty, dangerous enemies to civil and religious liberty. They have instigated most of the wars of Europe." - General Lafayette, aide to General George Washington (1799)


"The Jesuits are a naked sword, whose hilt is at Rome but its blade is everywhere, invisible until its stroke is felt." -Andre Dupin, French Statesman, member of King Louis Philippe's Cabinet which expelled the Order (1831)


"They are a public plague, and the plague of the world! Every species of vice finds its patronage in them. There is no perjury, nor sacrilege, nor parricide, nor incest, nor rapine, nor fraud, nor treason which cannot be masked as meritorious beneath the mantle of their dispensation." -Paolo Sarpi, Italian Roman Catholic historian of the Jesuits? Council of Trent (1620)


"The Jesuits are a military organization, not a religious order. Their chief is a general of an army, not the mere father abbot of a monastery. And the aim of this organization is: Power. Power in its most despotic exercise. Absolute power, universal power, power to control the world by the volition of a single man. Jesuitism is the most absolute of despotisms: and at the same time the greatest and most enormous of abuses? The general of the Jesuits insists on being master, sovereign, over the sovereign. Wherever the Jesuits are admitted they will be masters, cost what it may. Their society is by nature dictatorial, and therefore it is the irreconcilable enemy of all constituted authority. Every act, every crime, however atrocious, is a meritorious work, if committed for the interest of the Society of the Jesuits, or by the order of the general." -Napoleon Bonaparte.


We're beginning to see how more than 150 years ago, the General of a subversive military power called the Jesuits could brag to Duke de Brissac, "From this room, your grace, I govern not only Paris, but China - not only China, but the whole world - and all without any one knowing how it is done." [Constitution of the Jesuits 1843]


Enlight the top of the pyramid!


(ok, the top of the pyramid is off our world but you know.. ha)


:original:

Andre 09-09-2008 03:20 AM

Re: Why never talk about the top of the pyramid: The Jesuits?
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Ashatav (Post 2250)
That's.

Why is the reason?

Please, read Vatican Assassins 3er Edition. 1836 pags all about the Vatican and the Jesuits controling, the CFR, New Age movements, Knights of Malta, Masons, World Bank, zionist, etc. All of the creepy organizations!

Look in google for the Alberto Ribera's story. The Chicks publications about his life, you can read some of the comics here:

http://www.chick.com/reading/comics/...thersindex.asp

The only media who touch this Super-important topic is the Dr. Bill Deagle's Nutrimedical Report Show in Genesis Radio Network, he isn't afraid of it.

You can see it here : www.nutrimedical.com and www.clayandiron.com

You can listen it here any time: http://www.gcnlive.com/Programs/Nutr...On_Demand.html

You can see some jesuits facts here: http://www.clayandiron.com/news.jhtm...w&news.id=1511

Enlight the top of the pyramid!

(ok, the top of the pyramid is off our world but you know.. ha)

I fully agree with you.

There needs to be more investigation into the Papacy and the Jesuits.

What is the purpose of the Jesuit Order? Why does it exist? It is quite simple: the Jesuits seek to convert the world to Roman Catholicism. And in order to achieve this goal, they have not hesitated to use every means, both fair and foul – especially foul. They have not hesitated to lie, cheat, commit murder, or use revolution, if need be, to further their aims. At the very top of their priorities has always been the destruction of spiritual free will, as shall be seen. For the spiritual conflict must be discerned in all this: Satan’s ages-long war on the Church of the living God (Rev.12). For centuries, Rome has been the centre of Satan’s assault on the saints of God (Rev. 13:7; 17:1-6; 18:24; Dan. 7:25). Through the Inquisition and other means, the devil sought to wipe out the Church of Christ. Then, with the formation of the Jesuit Order in the sixteenth century, a new and deadly weapon was created to be used against biblical Christianity.

Zenbuoy 09-09-2008 03:32 AM

Re: Why never talk about the top of the pyramid: The Jesuits?
 
:yikes:Because extraterrestrial forces control their programmed effort. They are just the current force to do this for momentary exclusivity. Impermanence. There was a different pyramid in place before a Jesuit was called a jesuit.

Nice, robust post, however.

conniec818 09-09-2008 05:24 AM

Re: Why never talk about the top of the pyramid: The Jesuits?
 
all religions "they" created,only w/christianity it became out of control..their control....

Ashatav 09-09-2008 03:17 PM

Re: Why never talk about the top of the pyramid: The Jesuits?
 
Never forget this topic: Jesuits controls NWO.

And off world entities controls Jesuits.

But we all are inside a larger game.

We come to earth to experience something we sign before we came. So you have one option:

Enjoy your life! :lmfao:

Andre 09-09-2008 03:41 PM

Re: Why never talk about the top of the pyramid: The Jesuits?
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by conniec818 (Post 3447)
all religions "they" created,only w/christianity it became out of control..their control....

True.

In a sense, it all depends on which theory you subscribe to or how you interpret your research. Although, I believe that the Papacy and it's various internal organisations such as the Jesuits play a major role in how the world is controlled, through the bloodlines in Europe and America, it seems that they are pawns of the off world entities that Ashatav mentioned earlier.

I am a subscriber to some of the theories of Lynn Marzulli. Have a listen to this Youtube series on Endtime Deception and the Crystal Skulls: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=r3Cqt6TIPXA

This coupled with the theories from Zeitgeist, the movie and Vatican Assassins could provide some useful insights.

Ashatav 09-11-2008 10:12 PM

Re: Why never talk about the top of the pyramid: The Jesuits?
 
Let's talk about the Jesuits men.
They created Devilish New Age Movement (yeah, know the ascended masters are a divilish Scam, and all the contactees, bill Deagle says it!)

The World banks, CFR, TC, Bildergbergs.

The Evangelists to.

Many groups, by them and the Knights of Malta (civilian branch)

Realize it, they life are dedicated to infiltration.

Read Vatican Assassins and Fr. Alberto Ribera History. Google them.

The alternative media NEVER touch those topics. They guide your atention to other sources, to the syntom not the source of the problem.

The only Alternative medio tuching this is Greg Szymansky's http://www.arcticbeacon.com/

Dr. Bill Deagle
www.Nutrimedical.com / www.Clayandiron.com

Eric John Phelps Radio show.

Google them.

Know What are behind the problems, being the heart of it, not in front being just the face.

Norval 09-12-2008 04:21 AM

Re: Why never talk about the top of the pyramid: The Jesuits?
 
No, they were not the first to create anything.

The J's were liers from the start and the origional IAC agents.
IAC agents = Informational Acquisitional and Control

They want to know what you know and how you learned it.

Keep thinking and researching ~! ~! !

Ashatav 09-12-2008 07:59 AM

Re: Why never talk about the top of the pyramid: The Jesuits?
 
ups sorry my mistake, the evangelist are infiltrated by them.

Really have to look out the Alberto Ribera's history, it gives you a clear picture about the catolic church and the jesuits.

Cheers!

adamantiumtiger 09-13-2008 04:34 AM

Re: Why never talk about the top of the pyramid: The Jesuits?
 
People have to progress along the rabbit hole at their own pace. First get em used to the idea that the Bush administration are the ultimate evil, then move em on to the Rockefeller/Rothschild global mafia families, then move em on to mutliple banking families, then zionists(they may be one and the same, not sure), then jesuits, then possibly extra terrestrial beings. But hopefully it doesn't move on to aliens because I'd rather this be a problem fixed by a mass revolution against malevolent humans.

But yeah, people just have to start off small. If you try to expose people to Jesuits and the Vatican right off the bat but not get them used to the smaller "state sponsored terror" idea, then they'll get confused and think you've just been reading too much Dan Brown. I myself are at the level of "banking families/zionists" level and I know little of Jesuits. But once I'm know a good bit about them, I'll be more than happy to talk about them.

matrix 09-13-2008 05:30 AM

Re: Why never talk about the top of the pyramid: The Jesuits?
 
Walter Veith gives a historical view regarding the Jesuits and Catholic church in this video : "The Secret behind Secret Societies". It is given from a Christian perspective, but well researched non the less.

http://video.google.com/videoplay?do...ocieties&hl=en

Arkan 09-13-2008 06:11 AM

Re: Why never talk about the top of the pyramid: The Jesuits?
 
I think the fact that few researchers expose the Jesuits gives credence to how much power and influence they have.
"Why never talk about the top of the pyramid: The Jesuits?" I think researchers either don't know about them, are working for them, or are too afraid to talk about them. If Eric Jon Phelps is correct in how extensive their influence is then it would seem ridiculous that prominent researchers out there wouldn't know about them. Leo Zagami has been recently labeled as a coadjutor by Szymansky and Phelps. You know, it could be because there isn't much information available for researchers to go into detail. I don't know. The Jesuits are an important piece of the puzzle that needs to be discussed more.

http://video.google.com/videoplay?do...KJ9fDOAg&hl=en
http://www.spirituallysmart.com/
http://vaticanassassins.org/

Ashatav 09-16-2008 07:42 PM

Re: Why never talk about the top of the pyramid: The Jesuits?
 
Leo Zagami talked with Eric John Phelps and then he withdraw the acusation of being a coadjuntor of the jesuits.


Really this video are great expaining who is in charge really.

Arkan 09-16-2008 07:53 PM

Re: Why never talk about the top of the pyramid: The Jesuits?
 
Thanks for the correction.

Do you have a link for that? I'd really like to see that, Ashatav.

Andre 09-16-2008 08:08 PM

Re: Why never talk about the top of the pyramid: The Jesuits?
 
Nice link Ashatav.

Please keep up the work on exposing the Jesuits and the Vatican. This is very important and I do hope the members here will take a keen interest into it. We need to move away from the constant talk about Rothschilds and Rockefellers, Republicans and Democrats, McCain and Obama,...

Time to look at the top of the pyramid.

peterh 09-18-2008 08:14 PM

Re: Why never talk about the top of the pyramid: The Jesuits?
 
I recherche the power structure of the tyranny now a time.
At the beginning i thought that the bankers are the most powerful organization in the power structure. But this is wrong. They owe and organize all physical wealth, and it is there jop to steal all wealth from the world. But the priesthood it and was in all times the intellectual center of the tyranny. It is there jop to lock behind the physical world, and there jop to steal all the knowledge from the world. And knowledge is match more then material wealth. If you see a culture rotten in egoism, you will see all the time, the priesthood is the most rotten place of all, because priest under egoism become spiritual poison mixers, to build there sick imperials to slave all under them.

I expect the vatican is the center of the tyranny, together whit other powerful priesthoods. Or in other words, there sit the bosses of all bosses over all bosses of the mafia. (if you understand how mafia organizations work, and expand this to include all the world can over, you become a idea how the tyranny work. Many groups in permanent concurrence but whit one common goal and under a hierarchical power structure. For now, the building still is not finish and different groups fight for predominance.)
Way the vatican?, simply because it was the most successful organization in this barbarian game.

We know now there are 2 sides, the white pope in the open and the black pope in the darkness (the jesuit general).
But i expect a trinity, so there has to by a synthesis of this 2 sides, or the boss of this two popes. For now i fount no information's, who or what this could be, but i expect there is a hidden king.

undetected 09-19-2008 01:23 AM

Re: Why never talk about the top of the pyramid: The Jesuits?
 
I also find it strange that there isn't much talk about the Jesuits when they obviously have immense power. But are they really at the very top? I don't know, I consider them a part of the Illuminati. Rockefellers, Rothschilds, Jesuits... in a way they have common goals but at the same time, treacherous bastards as they all are, I believe all of them have their own agenda and each of these factions would like to think of themselves as being at the very top.

The Jesuits focus on the religious aspect but thinking that converting everyone to catholicism is their GOAL... nope, not a goal, just means. Because if you ask yourself "why do they want everyone to be catholic" then you get the answer to what their goal is. If they succeeded in that, they would be like gods on earth - if all earth is catholic and they're the top of the catholic pyramid, they have all the power. The goal is simply power and control. Just like with Rockefellers/Rothschilds or any other big time a**holes. It just so happens that their prefered way to achieve this goal is through religion. And one thing they have and others don't, is the Vatican Library, which is of more than just little importance, and a decent advantage for them. Because seriously, you don't believe they want to make everyone catholic because they want all people to have the right faith and to be "saved", right?

Converting everyone to catholicism is in my opinion impossible, ever. So plan B would be... killing everyone who doesn't want to convert? Oh wait, that sounds way too familiar, a history lesson maybe? I don't think they would mind doing that. Besides, Eric John Phelps says they're more of a military organization than religious, as for the structure, and I have no reason to not believe that. So in the end they are not that different from the other power-hungry factions. I'm not sure if they're at the very top. But I'm sure they want to be.

Ashatav 09-21-2008 07:19 AM

The Anti-top (Bottom ha, ha)
 
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I also find it strange that there isn't much talk about the Jesuits when they obviously have immense power.
Actualy are very little amount of people who talk about the Jesuits and the Catholic church. Look at the history of them, all ends dead! Alberto Rivera and Chiniqui where assessinated after several atempts. The majority of the books about the subjet are misteriously stolen of libraries, etc.

They have a GREAT network of desinfo, actually they are historically good at decieving. Now, look at Alex Jones, he NEVER touch the subjet. Leo Zagami says he are there exactly for that purpose, to make the courious people, who likes these topics unaware of the real top. He are the show for the curious. Look at this about the topic.

Look at these interesting things:

A good talk about Jesuits: part 1, part 2.

Knights of Malta. A civil branch who serves the vatican, do you know that many of the cia directors are of that organization?

Knights of Columbus: political focused vatican serving organization.

Bill Schnoebelen says that before he could be a catholic priest he must be a Satanic priest! Google him!

Bohemian groove: Look at the history, in wikipedia if you like, of Bohemia (why alex jones didn't show any catholic reference or catholic mass? there are a lot in there).

Look at this video in the 12 minute are a list of really important figures who are inside vatican organizations.

Look at this realy good video "Exposing the satanic empire" it's really good for introducing these topics (it has some flaws but gives a great big picture). Look at alberto Rivera chick's comics to, enlightening ones.


Why the 2 presidents of the invaders countries in Irak wet to have the pope blessing before the end of they goverment? The thing is Bush may have a lot of muscle power but without the blessing of the pope, hush! he banish from the face of the earth.

The thing the catholic church are the Mother of all the stupid organizations who have terrenal power and no trascendence in the spiritual realm like the bilderbergs, illuminati, etc.

That's because the catholic church aren't a cristian religion, are a Mistery cults/mythraistic amalgalm with a cristian face. The Zeus statues becomes st. Peter and Venus becomes mary (who are put in there to diminish the figure of Jehoshua).

Really, there are a LOT of information, just search in internerd.

PD: Now, Leo Zagami says that a positive shift of counciousness are going on an the jesuit are trying to control the spiritual side of people searching for a new Messiah, ha, ha yes sure, they can't do that, forget it, the people will not buy it.

Cheers!

THE eXchanger 09-21-2008 07:54 AM

Re: Why never talk about the top of the pyramid: The Jesuits?
 
excellent info

thank you for sharing it

susan

the eXchanger

ps; i'll bet they created confession, so, if you confess something bad , the priest sends someone out,
to get their share (no longer, will 10-15% enough,
depending on the sin, it would be give us a 1/3 or a 1/2 of it) i think people are starting to see right through these clowns !!!

bluestix 09-21-2008 08:56 AM

Re: Why never talk about the top of the pyramid: The Jesuits?
 
http://bp1.blogger.com/_oTwEGiup_Wo/..._in_prada2.jpg



The Devil wears Prada

peterh 09-21-2008 09:44 AM

Re: Why never talk about the top of the pyramid: The Jesuits?
 
Religion in the hands of tyrannies is only a mind controlling tool, and by loges and diverse sects witch are at there hierarchical to sit al together on one table, religion is a many sided hydra or octopus whit at the end the same center. The people they get not under the control of religions, the get under control by other mind controlling tools, lice atheism nihilism materialism satanism et et et et et et.
Way they work together?, because of the same reason like the mafia bosses work together even if thes are in the same time in concurrence for the biggest territory. But all barbarian organizations need a king, so the mafia use the most successful and intelligent one of them as there king. Without the hierarchy barbarians fall in to anarchy and lose there power structure. hierarchy is expertly important for all barbarian tyrannies, even more important then all the bosses in the game. Without hierarchy, no king of the world.
And the hierarchy allows that at the bottom of a structure are normal nice people whit don't have a clue what is going on at the top. So it is important to do not attack a entire system, but only the power at the very top of the hierarchy, because there it stink the most. It is wrong to use words like "catholicism" in general because of many reasons. Not all people of such believing systems are evil, so never attack people in general for there membership of a certain group, luck more exactly by analyze there goals characters an positions in the structure. Use is never "the catholics" or "the jews" or "the ...", it is all the time a tyrannical center at the top of the hierarchy and a mass down follow them used blind misled and manipulated. For the top of the hierarchy there down are only slaves living shields solders or what ever, used to build there own enslavement whit there help.
Catholicism is so only a group of many, but interesting because the power structure can tax them directly (in my country they use even the government system to enforce the church tax), and specially it is a shield of sheepy believers don't now what gous on in the center of there organization, and never ever understand that the center is pure satanic, and the evil hide hit self behind what lucks from outside like the most holy. This holy shiny shield is a psychological high barrier to see the real and ugly troth. So if you criticize the church, you have immediately millions of enemies tray to protect there believe and there power structure even whit good indention's.
So they don't need to convert everybody whit catholicism because they control by loges and secret societies almost all believing systems (religious and non religious). But anyway it is good for them to have so many people under there direct control as possible, as there shield and tax payers.
In the more violent past it was more important so convert people in a period of empire building by war, wen the mafia bosses of tyranny fight against each other to get the biggest peace. now the mafia bosses sit together on a rout table because the territories are now better organized and they have more tools then only violence.

This so called religions are in fact antireligions, tray to disconnect people from there spirituality, put them in to stupid sheepy believing systems instead to teach them wisdom and replace the spiritual creator whit there priesthood. The vatican has no problem to spit pure blaspheme in your face by saying "the pope is infallible an so god like" "the pope is the direct manifestation of god" "so pray the pope instead to god" "pay money so the priesthood forgive you sins" "you don't go in to the heaven without the blessings of the priesthood" and so one, and so one, and so one...... this shows you the real barbarian and satanic nature of egoistic empire builders using sheepy believers as there slaves. And the vatican is not the only rotten barbarian satanic priesthood, there are many today and many in the past. If you could destroy the complete vatican power, the cancer grows under a other label and the same ideologies and goals again somewhere else. (i think, Eric Phelps believe, if the vatican and the jesuites are out of business, everything is better because the medusa lose here hed. But this is wrong. Like cancer tyranny will grow up again if the cause in the mind is not removed in the conciseness of the human race.)
And then look to there logo, it is a satanic symbol, both cruses are demonic. that witch point down is the symbol for matter and pain (for you) and this witch points op is the symbol for ear and exces (lucifer, for the satanists). This cruse is a torture killing weapon, it was used to kill painfully countless people. And what the priesthood spit in your face is, "your god is dead, and we kill him". (lock to the a variant of the cruse witch the horizontal bar is bend (tanks for the picture, bluestix) down and forward, and the figure is in his knees. The normal cruse is not enough, they have to bend is, and encapsulate you in the unrecognized satanic ritual) if they use this symbol they practice in fact a satanic mass, in the open, because the most people don't understand the symbols and the psychology's behind. I once seen a kid standing beside me, from a other cloture (no indoctrination in this). The kid was shocked and scared(!) to see this murders figure on a cruses and ask, "who is this", answer "this is jesus our saviour", response "how hi can save as, hi is dead" !!!bingo!!! This is the real psychological effect of this symbol and the effect on the subconciseness! (i was a teenager my self and it is a long time ago, but i never forget this experience.)
And all the time, the holy shine work a shield to hide the truth, even the priests in the lower ranks of the hierarchy would never ever believe what is in the center of the temple empire.

Everything is a barbarian power and empire building, everything is organized in hierarchical structure, and everything is up to control all and everything. and there not mainly the matter, it is mainly control of the mind. You have to be under control and dependency of physical power, but mainly you have to be a prisoner in your mind. And long time before technology exist, tyrannies have only 2 main powers, brutal violence and mind control, and the mind control all the time comes first. how else you can get many people under the control of a power hierarchy and a king, to fight murder and die for him? What if they would say "you believe you are king? I don't, so **** of!" "you believe you one all the money in the world? I don't, so **** of!" to keep there power and keep you weak, they have to control people in there mind first and then in the matter.

To control the mind is mach more important then to control the matter because the second comes out of the first, and at the end it is the much higher intelligence! To enslave weaker people whit brutal violence don't needs the most intelligent tyrants only a little strategic intelligence, some psychopaths sadists murders rapists and criminals are enough if you get them under hierarchy. But mind controlling is alchemy so a high level science and the space of priesthood.
You have to see mind as a form of energy. And more believers you have, more energy is under your control. And the priesthood know how to use this energy, same like the bankers use the energy of money, and the managers in the economy use the energy of human slave work.

Ashatav 09-21-2008 01:49 PM

Re: Why never talk about the top of the pyramid: The Jesuits?
 
I agree

PD: Luciferianism (who are decieving by nature) are At The Top, and only Top of Catholisism, masonry, witchcraft and so on.

Stephen 09-21-2008 02:32 PM

Re: Why never talk about the top of the pyramid: The Jesuits?
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by bluestix (Post 23086)

NOW....That is FUNNY! :lmfao:

Dadrious 09-21-2008 09:16 PM

Re: Why never talk about the top of the pyramid: The Jesuits?
 
Because the Jesuits aren't at the top of the pyramid, no secret society is.

Eric Phelps leaves important historical facts out if they do not conform to his beliefs, like the garbage about Adam Weishaupt being a jesuit priest. Such statements are hilarious to anyone who actually takes the time to research... :lmao:

With people like him and Leo Zagami out there, the jesuits are sure to keep their power for many decades to come.

ophiuchus 09-21-2008 09:35 PM

Re: Why never talk about the top of the pyramid: The Jesuits?
 
again,i will will stress everyone research "TEUTONIC ZIONISM". this has nothing to do with jews. jordan maxwell says this group is key to everything happening today. these are the people who became the original knights templar. jesuits are involved and later they merged masonic and jewish kabbalists. he says this is key.

Norval 09-21-2008 11:56 PM

Re: Why never talk about the top of the pyramid: The Jesuits?
 
Wasn't it a Jesuit at the meeting where the government and military met with ET's back in the 50's? Signed some sort of a surrender to the ET's, a treaty?

Dadrious 09-22-2008 02:47 AM

Re: Why never talk about the top of the pyramid: The Jesuits?
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by ophiuchus (Post 23844)
again,i will will stress everyone research "TEUTONIC ZIONISM". this has nothing to do with jews. jordan maxwell says this group is key to everything happening today. these are the people who became the original knights templar. jesuits are involved and later they merged masonic and jewish kabbalists. he says this is key.


Agreed. :lightsabre:

Sunnely 09-22-2008 05:35 AM

Re: Why never talk about the top of the pyramid: The Jesuits?
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by bluestix (Post 23086)


ROFL!!!!!!!!! :mfr_lol:

EXCELLENT POST! BumpetiBUMP!

:lightsabre:

Ashatav 09-22-2008 06:09 AM

Re: Why never talk about the top of the pyramid: The Jesuits?
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Norval (Post 24075)
Wasn't it a Jesuit at the meeting where the government and military met with ET's back in the 50's? Signed some sort of a surrender to the ET's, a treaty?

I don't know that but ufo is a word the jesuits use. What I have investigating are that the ufo are interdimensinal non positive spiritual beings and the ufo are a cover up. Deagle's says that, Leo Zagami's to.

The planet x footage are jesuit, did you know?

Interesting topic to follow.

Zionists: Leo Zagami and Alberto Ribera says that Zionism in the very top are the same with the vatican.

Because this isn't just a material drama, it's more than that. It's good to be alive in this time on earth, when we are disclosing the old paradigm and we will change our consiousness to something more spiritual so we will not need the old structure of earth... Think Positive!

Infórmense!

I found something good about all the stuff going on, look at this:

http://video.google.es/videoplay?doc...satanic+empire

mntruthseeker 09-22-2008 06:13 AM

Re: Why never talk about the top of the pyramid: The Jesuits?
 
People have not got the guts to say anything about them.
I did and got disowned by my family. I will never be sorry for my remark

There is much to be heard about the Jesuits and Vatican

I just read that they were about to entered into the fine Vatican and it was for something they will probally never report.

I know that its a well known fact they cover the alien files. Hmmmm wonder what is up with the big New secret:wink2:

This is truly sad. Can they bring us down a little bit more?:yikes:

mntruthseeker 09-22-2008 06:44 AM

Re: Why never talk about the top of the pyramid: The Jesuits?
 
Thanks for the video. It's exactly what I had on my mind


:naughty:

Ashatav 09-22-2008 07:48 AM

Re: Why never talk about the top of the pyramid: The Jesuits?
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by mntruthseeker (Post 24616)
Thanks for the video. It's exactly what I had on my mind


:naughty:

Yeah. Glad to share this information with intelligent people like yourself and the reader.

Now the important thing is to think positive! :lmfao:


PD: and that means to think with positive termns like "Im good" instead "im not bad" because the brain doesn't realize about the afirmation or negation, just the concept. So, I am Very Very good to be alive! (say that repeatedly at loud and appearing to be like a sane person!)

Cheers!

Ashatav 10-10-2008 05:48 AM

Re: Why never talk about the top of the pyramid: The Jesuits?
 
Wow, today in the Nutrimedical Report Show (listen On Demand, that's any time, using the link), Dr. Deagle talked with Eric John Phelps, the author of Vatican Assassins. An awsome show!

www.nutrimedical.com / www.clayandiron.com

Remember, the Jesuits are the rulers of all the creepy organizations.

PD: I put more links in the first post of this thread.

Cheers! :trumpet:

JohnWdoe 10-13-2008 02:58 AM

Re: Why never talk about the top of the pyramid: The Jesuits?
 
You are right about no one calling them out and i wonder why, it seems they have a net to fall onto (various death cults) but thats my opinion.

I honestly think the Illuminati have not done half of what they are blamed for, hell its a great scape goat if you ask me. The people listed at the top we try to imagine and right now i don't think its a "NWO" per say, reminds me of a sound bite and an obvious ploy to get people yelling at that - a brick wall.

I couldn't tell you how many networks this sprawls across but it does go into Russia and China (branch's work well) its just when two greedy powerful suits lose its like animals scrapping for meat - wild.

You can surely keep someone shut up by issuing threats to his family whom ever wants to take the risk on the inside go ahead... that's how they contain people and opinions, heck we could have had free energy 25 years ago but then again the fear of "super nations like China getting free energy" scares them to subvert the technology for private testing.

The pyramid is a structure of fear.

Ashatav 10-13-2008 08:17 PM

Re: Why never talk about the top of the pyramid: The Jesuits?
 
I found this amazing article, Pre-cheers to everyone!: :trumpet:


Excerpts from "Does the Vatican Hold Your Mortgage?" by William Thomas:


http://www.willthomasonline.net/will...ge_Part_1.html


"In a country where there are Jesuits, they must either rule or the country must go to ruin, it is they who rule the world." -Luigi Desanctis, official Censor of the Inquisition, Protestant Reformed pastor (1852)


The Great Depression put all the smaller banks out of business and made the Federal Reserve Bank, lord of all, Eric Phelps documents. Guess who helped trigger the Great Depression? According to FDR's son-in-law, it was a Knight of Malta named Joseph Kennedy. As Curtis Dall relates: "The feeling around the Street, in succeeding months, was that there were, in particular, three large short-sellers of stock, allegedly, Tom Bragg, Ben Smith, and Joe Kennedy. Of the three mentioned well-known short-sellers, Joe Kennedy was allegedly the most important, the most powerful and the most successful. Was Joe Kennedy carefully selected by world money leaders to sell short?"
Today, the largest bank in the world today, the Federal Reserve "is one of the greatest contributors, or players, in international trading," Mullins observes.

The Fed gets its orders from the Queen Mum of All Banks, the Bank of England - aka, the Bank of Rothschild. Considered by many to be the world's most powerful institution - the power behind all presidencies, dictatorships and thrones - does the Bank of England answer to any other bank?

Well, yes, actually.

The Bank of Rome began opening branch offices in Venice in 1587.

Bank of Rome = Vatican Bank controlled by the Jesuit General, aka the "Black" (hidden, shadowy) Pope.

The Jesuit's Bank of Rome opened its Bank of England branch in 1694. The first bank to be named after a country, the Bank of England had nothing to do with the British government - except to own it through privately held, interest-compounded debt.

Unaccountable to either the Queen or Parliament, the misleadingly labeled "Bank of England" finances the throne, the British prime minister, parliament and much of the planet out of "The City" located in central London. All major British banks have their main offices in this Square Mile - as well as 70 U.S. banks.

Throw in the London Stock Exchange, Lloyd's of London, the Baltic Exchange (shipping), Fleet Street (publishing and newspapers), the London Commodity and Metal exchanges - and you are looking at Earth's financial axis. [Descent into Slavery]

The City operates as a sovereign state, just like the Vatican. Since 1820, the Rothschilds have traditionally chosen The City's Lord Mayor.

Back in the USA, as author Eric Phelps explained in an interview just before publication of his secrecy-shredding Vatican Assassins, (which was held up to include corrections by sympathetic Jesuits) - the Vatican's Black Robes "own and control the Federal Reserve Bank by proxy, through the Knights of Malta, with their various trusts and so on. They never own anything outright; they always own it through a trusted third party."Including the Vatican-home mortgage connection.


"That the Jesuits were the disturbers of kingdoms, the oppressors of nations, the masters of the world, I freely admit." -Marcel de la Roche Arnauld, Roman Catholic Priest (1827)


"All roads do lead to Rome" We have the Federal Reserve begat by the Bank of England begat by the Bank of Rome. Similarly, the Bank of Canada is an offspring of the Bank of England, which in turn is a child of the Bank of Rome - aka, the Vatican Bank.

And the Vatican, as everyone knows is run by the CNN-featured White Pope. Left untranslated is the coronation moment when the new Pontiff is told in Latin: "Take thou the tiara adorned with the triple crown, and know that thou art the father of princes and kings, and art the governor of the world." [Vatican Assassins]

So who runs the White Pope?
Why the Googleable, shadowy Black Pope of course! The Jesuit General.


"This irritable tribe of priests, have subverted the pure morality of primitive Christianity to serve their own selfish interests. The Jesuits have perverted Christianity into an engine for enslaving mankind, a mere contrivance to fetch wealth and power to themselves."
- Thomas Jefferson


According to Baron Avro Manhattan, author of a jaw-dropping series of Vatican books, "Many historians and researchers and one American Congressman stated that: The Vatican through the Jesuit Order controlling the Illuminati is in control of the United States Federal Reserve." [Vatican Billions by Avro Manhattan]

The Jesuits had been tossed out Rome and every country in Europe for their back-stabbing treachery. As Phelps explained to interviewer Rick Martin: "Weishaupt was the promoter of the Illuminati, with the House of Rothschild, for the punishment of the Catholic monarchs of Europe, and the Pope, for suppressing the Jesuit Order. Weishaupt was under the supervision, at least initially, of Jesuit General Ricci, who died in 1775 in Italy. Weishaupt was under orders."

http://www.willthomasonline.net/will...ge_Part_2.html


"It is absolutely necessary for the salvation of every human creature to be subject to the Roman Pontiff." -Pope Boniface, Unam Sanctam (1302)


We're beginning to see how more than 150 years ago, the General of a subversive military power called the Jesuits could brag to Duke de Brissac, "From this room, your grace, I govern not only Paris, but China - not only China, but the whole world - and all without any one knowing how it is done." [Constitution of the Jesuits 1843]

National and personal sovereignty haven't improved much since. As Baron Avro Manhattan put it, the Pope "doesn't have to pray for divine intervention to operate the levers of economic power - he merely has to give instructions to his officials in the Vatican Bank. Only the pope and a couple of top bank officers know precise details of its operations" This secrecy is one of the main reasons why few people know that the papacy directs one of the world's major financial corporations.

The Vatican likes to point out that it?s going broke running Vatican City. But Cardinal Edmund Szoka, the Vatican's unofficial finance minister, told Money Week that the Vatican?s assets total some $5 billion. Vatican City "has a separate financial statement," he added.

According to Baron Manhattan's research: "The Vatican has large investments with the Rothschilds of Britain, France and America, with the Hambros Bank, with the Credit Suisse in London and Zurich. In the United States it has large investments with the Morgan Bank, the Chase-Manhattan Bank, the First National Bank of New York, the Bankers Trust Company, and others. The Vatican has billions of shares in the most powerful international corporations such as Gulf Oil, Shell, General Motors, Bethlehem Steel, General Electric, International Business Machines, T.W.A., etc. "

A nationally syndicated Catholic priest has stated, "The Catholic Church must be the biggest corporation in the United States. We have a branch office in every neighborhood. Our assets and real estate holdings must exceed those of Standard Oil, A.T.&T., and U.S. Steel combined. And our roster of dues-paying members must be second only to the tax rolls of the United States Government." [The Vatican Billions]

"But this is just a small portion of the wealth of the Vatican, which in the U.S. alone, is greater than that of the five wealthiest giant corporations of the country," Baron Manhattan explains. "The Catholic church is the biggest financial power, wealth accumulator and property owner in existence." [Vatican Billions]

Don't forget to throw in more than 18,000 works of art. [Fortune Dec 21/87]
The Vatican's gold treasure alone has been estimated by the United Nations World Magazine to amount to several billion dollars. The Independent has independently confirmed that the "Vatican Bank - Istituto per le Opere di Religione - manages more than $4 billion in assets. It does not reveal its profits or dividends, which are paid directly to the Pope. It enjoys the status of a central bank and has a dealing room adorned with crucifixes and papal portraits where 20 traders work ." [Independent Apr 19/02]


"The Society of the Jesuits has the power to hide the sun, and make men blind and deaf to its caprice." -Montlarc (circa 1700)


"It is my opinion that if the liberties of this country - the United States of America - are destroyed, it will be by the subtlety of the Roman Catholic Jesuit priests, for they are the most crafty, dangerous enemies to civil and religious liberty. They have instigated most of the wars of Europe." - General Lafayette, aide to General George Washington (1799)


"The Jesuits are a naked sword, whose hilt is at Rome but its blade is everywhere, invisible until its stroke is felt." -Andre Dupin, French Statesman, member of King Louis Philippe's Cabinet which expelled the Order (1831)


"They are a public plague, and the plague of the world! Every species of vice finds its patronage in them. There is no perjury, nor sacrilege, nor parricide, nor incest, nor rapine, nor fraud, nor treason which cannot be masked as meritorious beneath the mantle of their dispensation." -Paolo Sarpi, Italian Roman Catholic historian of the Jesuits? Council of Trent (1620)


"The Jesuits are a military organization, not a religious order. Their chief is a general of an army, not the mere father abbot of a monastery. And the aim of this organization is: Power. Power in its most despotic exercise. Absolute power, universal power, power to control the world by the volition of a single man. Jesuitism is the most absolute of despotisms: and at the same time the greatest and most enormous of abuses? The general of the Jesuits insists on being master, sovereign, over the sovereign. Wherever the Jesuits are admitted they will be masters, cost what it may. Their society is by nature dictatorial, and therefore it is the irreconcilable enemy of all constituted authority. Every act, every crime, however atrocious, is a meritorious work, if committed for the interest of the Society of the Jesuits, or by the order of the general." -Napoleon Bonaparte.

Steve_G 10-14-2008 02:24 PM

Re: Why never talk about the top of the pyramid: The Jesuits?
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by mntruthseeker (Post 24590)
People have not got the guts to say anything about them.
I did and got disowned by my family. I will never be sorry for my remark

There is much to be heard about the Jesuits and Vatican

I just read that they were about to entered into the fine Vatican and it was for something they will probally never report.

I know that its a well known fact they cover the alien files. Hmmmm wonder what is up with the big New secret:wink2:

This is truly sad. Can they bring us down a little bit more?:yikes:

Everyone's probably worried about the ADL. That said, I haven't really come across much on this subject yet. I've downloaded a Jordan Maxwell vid and I'm downloading the one posted above so I'll get back to you.

AMA-GI 10-14-2008 08:28 PM

Re: Why never talk about the top of the pyramid: The Jesuits?
 
The jesuits are powerful mages. I am not affraid to speak of them in any way. I know their magic systems and have taught them to the sects in the past. Now i am a different person. But let me say this, they control the masses through magic and the spirits they conjour.

Ashatav 10-15-2008 09:49 AM

Re: Why never talk about the top of the pyramid: The Jesuits?
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by AMA-GI (Post 50939)
The jesuits are powerful mages. I am not affraid to speak of them in any way. I know their magic systems and have taught them to the sects in the past. Now i am a different person. But let me say this, they control the masses through magic and the spirits they conjour.

Exelent AMA-GI, I heard the same thing from different sources, thanks for the information backing this.

Jesuits, the vatican occultists...

Cheers! :trumpet:

Ashatav 10-17-2008 12:00 PM

Re: Why never talk about the top of the pyramid: The Jesuits?
 
Hi all!

I found in the Exelent historic book about the roman catholic church named "50 years in the church of Rome" by the late ex catholic priest Charles Chiniquy, a great quote from Abraham Lincoln himself after knowing Chiniquy when he defend him in court against the roman catholic institution who trial him about basicaly not follow the orders made by them (against the people in fact) later when he was president.

Here it is: :thumb_yello:

""This war would never have been possible without the sinister influence of the Jesuits. We owe it to popery that we now see our land reddened with the blood of her noblest sons. Though there were great differences of opinion between the South and the North on the question of slavery, neither Jeff Davis nor anyone of the leading men of the Confederacy would have dared to attack the North, had they not relied on the promises of the Jesuits, that, under the mask of Democracy, the money and the arms of the Roman Catholic, even the arms of France were at their disposal, if they would attack us. I pity the priests, the bishops and monks of Rome in the United States, when the people realize that they are, in great part, responsible for the tears and the blood shed in this war. I conceal what I know, on that subject, from the knowledge of the nation; for if the people knew the whole truth, this war would turn into a religious war, and it would at once, take a tenfold more savage and bloody character. It would become merciless as all religious wars are. It would become a war of extermination on both sides. The Protestants of both the North and the South would surely unite to exterminate the priests and the Jesuits, if they could hear what Professor Morse has said to me of the plots made in the very city of Rome to destroy this Republic, and if they could learn how the priests, the nuns, and the monks, which daily land on our shores, under the pretext of preaching their religion, instructing the people in their schools, taking care of the sick in the hospitals, are nothing else but the emissaries of the Pope, of Napoleon, and the other despots of Europe, to undermine our institutions, alienate the hearts of our people from our constitution, and our laws, destroy our schools, and prepare a reign of anarchy here as they have done in Ireland, in Mexico, in Spain, and wherever there are any people who want to be free.

And then President Abraham Lincoln went on to say: "Is it not an absurdity to give to a man a thing which he is sworn to hate, curse, and destroy? And does not the Church of Rome hate, curse and destroy liberty of conscience whenever she can do it safely? I am for liberty of conscience in its noblest, broadest, highest sense. But I cannot give liberty of conscience to the Pope and to his followers, the Papists, so long as they tell me, through all their councils, theologians, and canon laws, that their conscience orders them to bum my wife, strangle my children, and cut my throat when they find their opportunity! This does not seem to be understood by the people today. But sooner or later, the light of common sense will make it clear to every one that no liberty of conscience can be granted to men who are sworn to obey a Pope, who pretends to have the right to put to death those who differ from him in religion."

Abraham Lincoln to Charles Chiniquy at the times of civil war.

Cheers and expose the puppeteers!

GoingToFast 10-17-2008 01:45 PM

Re: Why never talk about the top of the pyramid: The Jesuits?
 
This is one of the best threads on the Avalon forum, it shows that there are people understanding the forces that control mankind. The Jesuits are not the only magicians out there, there are other groups of people and entities that control humans by magic for there own purposes, GOOD AND BAD.


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