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QueenOfLeon 09-07-2008 06:43 PM

Is This Site safe?
 
Hello to all those who are awake! I have been following Project Camelot for along time now and thank Kerry and Bill for their courage at getting the info out, however I can not help but think, given what John Lear said about ATS being a forum for insiders to follow what people know, is it wise to post locations and plans for survival on here for all to see? How do you know if a member is a gov insider or not? How do you know that once you are all settled in your little community that a swarm of black helicopters won't fly to your mountain in Ecuador and round you all up? Given their abilites to trace and track electronical information, this all seems pretty insane to me. I recently sent a mail to a freind outlining the NWO and it mysteriously dissapeared from my drafts which I know I had saved, so I have been well aware that I, along with all of you are probably on that list just for knowing about it.

Does anybody else not think about this? I would be interested to know Bill and Kerry's opinion on this also?

And have you not been threatened for allowing the info to be out at all?

CONDE 09-07-2008 06:57 PM

Re: Is This Site safe?
 
Hey Queen !

The country's name is spelled ECUADOR, and the truth is fear
is NO LONGER an option for us anymore!, we have been scared
for too long, and it shows in this collective paranoia we are in now.

I invite U to switch on your positive side and all fear will dissipate.

THINK LOVE, THINK PEACE, THINK HARD, THINK NOW !

Frank Conde

IronWoman 09-07-2008 07:01 PM

Re: Is This Site safe?
 
yes i too have thought whether this site is safe or not. but the truth of the matter is .. it's not. anyone can join and anyone can read this stuff we post here. members of the illuminati can...

:yikes:

Kate 09-07-2008 07:03 PM

Re: Is This Site safe?
 
greetings Leon!!!

a few concerned individuals have put this concern across on other threads...it is very valid point.... even if there was an encrypted part of this site developed when it becomes a membership subscription which was 'locked' for members only..it still wouldnt stop 'them' infiltrating and spying!!

maybe there is someone out there who can come up with a grande plan 'formula' for us as a community to move onto and use when it gets to the actual 'action' part of relocating?????

I have been giving this alot of thought, but as yet ..no solution is manifesting!

we need to develop some type of 'code' that can only be passed on to other trusted members of this site...

either way, some infiltration would happen no matter how much we tried to remain covert in planning....but there is always a better solution around the corner which will weed out some of the 'undesirables'

Ideas please???????

Kahunamahalo 09-07-2008 07:05 PM

Re: Is This Site safe?
 
“Fear is the path to the dark side. Fear leads to anger. Anger leads to hate. Hate leads to suffering.” I stopped being afraid a long time ago. All they can do is kill you. If you believe in an afterlife, why be afraid?

Jerry

QueenOfLeon 09-07-2008 07:12 PM

Re: Is This Site safe?
 
Thanks for the spelling lesson Conde.

*rolls eyes*

Fear has nothing to do with it, more like sensible caution. I do believe in the afterlife too, but Im lovng the physical right now with the people I love, in this current form, so I will prolong it as much as possible.

Good luck to all, I too am expecting the outcome I desire for humanity. Collectively if we are all positive then hopefully a shift can happen.

strider 09-07-2008 07:20 PM

Re: Is This Site safe?
 
Most forums like this, if not all, are being watched in some way. This place will no doubt get people trying to disrupt and divide, I've seen it happen at a few places in my short forum life.

The lengths some people will go to is a sight to behold..

Myplanet2 09-07-2008 07:24 PM

Re: Is This Site safe?
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by firehorse10 (Post 1626)
greetings Leon!!!

a few concerned individuals have put this concern across on other threads...it is very valid point.... even if there was an encrypted part of this site developed when it becomes a membership subscription which was 'locked' for members only..it still wouldnt stop 'them' infiltrating and spying!!

maybe there is someone out there who can come up with a grande plan 'formula' for us as a community to move onto and use when it gets to the actual 'action' part of relocating?????

I have been giving this alot of thought, but as yet ..no solution is manifesting!

we need to develop some type of 'code' that can only be passed on to other trusted members of this site...

either way, some infiltration would happen no matter how much we tried to remain covert in planning....but there is always a better solution around the corner which will weed out some of the 'undesirables'

Ideas please???????


I don't believe we have to or should do anything about this at all. We can't stop them spying on us. They already are. Just look at some of the interviews on Camelot, or Bill Deagle's lecture on the Granada Forum.

It's likely that no internet communication medium is safe and still remains useful.

So lets just carry on. We're not going to be a priority for them for a good while yet, because we're not working actively against them, the way competing intelligence agencies and gangs are.

We'll be their undoing, but passively, because we're about creating positive solutions, not stopping negative activities.

The trick is in recognizing and refusing to be drawn into their game.

And being afraid we'll be seen doing what we're doing, or some such, is definitely existing within their game, under their rules.

Follow the logic, and hiding from them hands them a big win, because it means we've been intimidated.

Heidi 09-07-2008 07:27 PM

Re: Is This Site safe?
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by IronWoman (Post 1623)
Yes, I too have thought whether this site is safe or not. but the truth of the matter is .. it's not. anyone can join and anyone can read this stuff we post here. members of the illuminati can...

:yikes:

Yes, an obvious and GOOD Question Queen. I have lost a few nights sleep already pondering said question. My conclusion; It is obviously not safe for sure, but; I'm willing to take the risk in order to help by letting people know about a place, location that I have come to believe is a place chosen for certain ones to gather. In essence no where on the planet is safe anymore. We are all being monitored. Our only hope is our prayers/conscious intention to change the path we are headed on. Is is too late? In my opinion it is never too late. It's not over until it's over. Spread the word, do whatever practice you do to focus and direct your energy along with others to create a positve energy field and spread it until our combined light will overcome!
Believe! Our combined Faith can change the direction we're headed.
Signing off this Forum now for awhile. I have some very important work to do. like watering paradise! Dancing the ethers of Aphrodite....Unconditional LOVE and Non Judgement ~~~I love you all~~~~~more, Later, of course,
Heidi:wub2:
Feraferian Paradisial Community/Sanctuary 101
New Mexico, USA
www.selenakareena.com
Empowering Women through Dance~~
Creating Sacred Geometry*********using said energies to create Beauty/ transformation to higher vibrational frequencies.....
near Truth or Consequences, NM
Southwest USA not too far from the Four Corners area:original:

Pegasus_22 09-07-2008 07:27 PM

Re: Is This Site safe?
 
Well, I think we should all keep in mind that we are indeed being watched. No locations or real names should be posted here although they have means of finding these things out. A good measure of caution is always good. I say better be paranoid than dead. I know some would disagree.

I recently asked someone how would I know if they were working for the good guys or not and the response was: "You will know people and the validity of their message based on whether they spread fear or compassion".

christopherthomson 09-07-2008 07:29 PM

Re: Is This Site safe?
 
Safety in numbers. This forum is bringing together people from all over the world remember.

There is too much going on now for this forum to be of major concern. Obviously rense.com is causing problems for all sorts of controlling interests, but I doubt that a minority of people taking self-preservation steps is of concern until those people are proved to have valuable resources. The most valuable resource being of course, compassion. When they wake up and realise we are filled to the brim with that, we're ******!


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Event_Horizon 09-07-2008 07:40 PM

Re: Is This Site safe?
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by QueenOfLeon (Post 1605)
Hello to all those who are awake! I have been following Project Camelot for along time now and thank Kerry and Bill for their courage at getting the info out, however I can not help but think, given what John Lear said about ATS being a forum for insiders to follow what people know, is it wise to post locations and plans for survival on here for all to see? How do you know if a member is a gov insider or not? How do you know that once you are all settled in your little community that a swarm of black helicopters won't fly to your mountain in Ecuador and round you all up? Given their abilites to trace and track electronical information, this all seems pretty insane to me. I recently sent a mail to a freind outlining the NWO and it mysteriously dissapeared from my drafts which I know I had saved, so I have been well aware that I, along with all of you are probably on that list just for knowing about it.

Does anybody else not think about this? I would be interested to know Bill and Kerry's opinion on this also?

And have you not been threatened for allowing the info to be out at all?

Good comment. Personally I think that if you have come this far in you research and you are now even talking about leaving for better places then they probably already have a file on you, and know who you are, who you are talking and to and what those conversations contain. CONDE was right, don't fear these people any longer. If they wanted to get to us they would, but I expect they have bigger problems on their hands at the moment. Its a risk coming on here granted but think about the people who started Camelot and Avalon, the people who risk themselves to give interviews. Well we stick with them, we don't hide and neither do they!

No Fear!

Peace

llogun 09-07-2008 07:56 PM

Re: Is This Site safe?
 
I think playing it safe is the way to go and if what ever happans ,happans. But im sure if the intent is right things will pan out for us for the best. I think we have all got to be on the ball when making plans

lightworkers 09-07-2008 08:14 PM

Re: Is This Site safe?
 
THX Jerry, I liked what you said!

nothing is "safe" not even life itself.
there is no way to hide who we are or what we think,
we all know that.

put your trust in LOVE, trust yourself. don't be afraid!

WHY HIDE?
doesn't hiding = fear?

doesn't fear give the opposition control?

BELIEVE IN YOURSELF!
LET LOVE RULE!


LOVE WILL ALWAYS WIN = )

Kahunamahalo 09-07-2008 08:29 PM

Re: Is This Site safe?
 
Fear and paranoia will eventually enslave us all. Just be prepared and sensible. They can't take your soul if you won't let them and I refuse to do so. I'm done being afraid and living my life in fear. 911 didn't frighten me and this doesn't either.

Peace4Gaia 09-07-2008 09:29 PM

Re: Is This Site safe?
 
Kerry posted a comment along these lines here. Perhaps it should be a permanent sticky at the top of the main forum?

I think the idea is to connect with others here on the forum and then take discussions offline from there. And always use your own judgement.... remember to practice discernment!! No one is advocating posting detailed plans publicly.

I agree with others though, I'm done with fear! Why waste time and energy on "what if's" ... how about spending that energy on positive action instead?

Peace!
:thumb_yello:

conjuredUp 09-08-2008 01:12 AM

Re: Is This Site safe?
 
I vibrate in love.
So I am becoming invisible to beings with lower vibrations than I.

If the PTB can't smell or sense your fear? They won't even know where to look.

I'll be hiding in plain site because I've got nothing to fear.

ONLY love.
The weapon of LEAST destruction.

LOVELOVELOVE,
C

Pithiny 09-08-2008 01:19 AM

Re: Is This Site safe?
 
It's a bit unnerving that when one is positive they have found Truth, it comes hand-in-hand with surveillance on whatever level. My personal opinion is that -- that's the fact of being "In The Light" - hiding, or taking extraneous steps (besides normal safety precautions) to avoid the Dark is not compatible with the Light. When our Light fills all the vacuum, there will be no Dark. We can't go into a room, close the door, and close the Light off from view, it is contrary to spreading the Light.

All we can do is be careful to protect identifying information and locations, and meet in a public place.

EchosLament 09-08-2008 02:24 AM

Re: Is This Site safe?
 
Nothing online is ever safe. There is an electronic trail in everything you do.

That is the reason that Viacom is doing something extremely chilling with the youtube/google lawsuit. They want the ip addy and the video records of EVERYTHING everyone has ever watched on the site. And I believe that youtube actually has the information and have been keeping track.

Clear your cookies, go through a proxy ip if you can and just keep the faith.

:wub2::wub2:

AmanAmen 09-08-2008 06:23 AM

Re: Is This Site safe?
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Kahunamahalo (Post 1629)
“Fear is the path to the dark side. Fear leads to anger. Anger leads to hate. Hate leads to suffering.” I stopped being afraid a long time ago. All they can do is kill you. If you believe in an afterlife, why be afraid?

Here, Here - The beginning of my awakening was wrought with fear - but David Wilcock made a great point in his Futurtalk interview - something to the effect of...if you're constantly afraid of domestic (US) concentration camps, you are worshipping the illuminati. I took this to mean that there is true energy generated by our emotions, and fear gives energy to those empowered by all that is negative - the combative antithesis to this is a continual focus on love, peace, hope, light, and all things good. If there truly is power created/generated by our thoughts and emotions, a united and communal focus on such ideals must have an effect.

MMe M 09-08-2008 09:00 AM

Re: Is This Site safe?
 
While I consider the ramifications every single time I talk on a phone or post a comment, I am also done with living in fear and dread. Fear is a prison cell. Dread is an early death. Nothing, NOTHING we do here is private or secret. You can and must accentuate the positive, and eliminate the negative as the song goes. It isnt as if we are on the same level technologically, intelectually or even in any other respect.

If they so choose, they can do whatever they please to any of us at any time. Black choppers, shut down sites, control us as though we are merely a simulation on a pc.

Do any of you recall that scene in the Grinch who stole Christmas? The one where the grinch is incredulous that the who's down in whoville still sing even though all their worldly possesions have been taken. Sing people!

It doesnt take much light to dispell the darkeness.

THE PEACEFUL WARRIOR 09-08-2008 10:54 AM

Re: Is This Site safe? Bill and Kerry should reply to this...
 
Qeenie,
Bless you sweetheart for your due dilligence and aforethought.
Guy's a word to the wise, be careful, keep your personal details to a minimum.

It's not a bout being fearful, just be stealthy and stay healthy.

There is a global ****storm coming, why stick your head out to high when you can swim underwater anyway!

I think Bill and Kerry should make a statement addressing this matter. It is important and should be considered...Are they basically creating an address book for the powers that be to come calling when the day is right?

The security of groundcrew members and any subsequent communities and locations is probably the most serious conundrum facing this site and it's cause.

Of course LOVE is the key as always, but preparedness is paramount.

Big Love to all, Namaste, Peace Out...

A :yikes:x

Trishsgate 09-08-2008 11:12 PM

Re: Is This Site safe?
 
IMO no personal data should be given out perhaps mapping an area of interest without actually pinpointing a location is preferable. To my knowledge all information can be data mined, collected and stored. Unfortunately TTL will be the name of the game for future residents. What is important is that the general information is out here for the populous to obtain in such a way as to prepare. We cannot remain in a state of fear and control it is time to empower oneself taking back that control and power we have relinquished. Little by little we can create co-ops and communities to grow food, woodworking, seamstress, etc. everything we have given up can be regained. We still have the skills and training, it is connecting with others that have the skills that we do not that IMO is needed. Why give transnational corporations who could care less about your welfare one dime of your money it is insane. For me I would prefer to give it to the displaced worker down the street to do the job that I cannot do than give them any more power than they already have. I really have not reviewed this site but have followed Project Camelot for some time and highly recommend it.

ucan 09-09-2008 12:42 AM

Re: Is This Site safe?
 
:yikes:

JesterTerrestrial 09-09-2008 01:03 AM

Re: Is This Site safe?
 
Is this planet safe?

Peace4Gaia 09-09-2008 01:35 AM

Re: Is This Site safe?
 
:lmao:

touche' Jester!!! good one!!!!

:roll1::roll1::roll1::roll1:

Undooz 09-09-2008 01:44 AM

Re: Is This Site safe?
 
Why do you think they call it the net? :lmfao:

Andre 09-09-2008 01:45 AM

Re: Is This Site safe?
 
We have to think positive. I wake up everyday with the mindset that I will try to be a better person in every moment of every second and hope that that will translate to my fellow man.

So fear not.

linkes 09-09-2008 01:57 AM

Re: Is This Site safe?
 
who cares if they see what we are planning or not.

I am not afraid are you?

Peace and Blessings
Linkes

Whitewolf 09-09-2008 06:58 AM

Re: Is This Site safe?
 
There is one undeniable fact which the existance of this website illustrates: humans across the planet are waking up to their own Divinity. They are finding the spirituality within their own souls. I myself had my first Mystical experience early this year as the forces of Light flooded my entire being. I can only describe it as Divine consciousness. I felt what mystics of old have described since the ancient days. This type of occurance naturally represents a great threat to the established order of organized religion, political hierarchy, etc. This awakening has been predicted by the ancients for millennia. There is no thwarting the momentum of collective awakening, as this is the process of Spirit. Heaven is uniting with an Ascending Earth. Our collective awakening is but one symptom of this unstoppable phenomenon. The powers of Light are beginning to overwhelm the forces of darkness which is part of why everything seems to be speeding up, as though we are now in a "race against time".

Heaven itself represents the ultimate threat to the powers that be and there is nothing that can ever change that. They can detain and murder whoever they wish, but they will never be able to destroy the powers and ambitions of the great All That Is. The TRUE Creator.

Norval 09-09-2008 03:19 PM

Re: Is This Site safe?
 
Is this site safe?

The better question was, "Is this planet safe?". Well, is the galaxy safe, or for that mater, the universe? That would depend on our ET neighbors, after all, there are only two "kinds" of ET's.

1. Those you would want for a neighbor. :welcomeani:

2. Those you wouldn't want for a neighbor because you couldn't trust them with your kids, cows, or anus. :mad3:

As I am all ready a "known" to the PtB (powers that be) there is no reason, or way, to hide in any fashion for me. Waves a "hello" to the Information Acquisition and Control IAC) agents that are on every forum. :thumbdown:
Norval

Antaletriangle 09-09-2008 03:31 PM

Re: Is This Site safe?
 
This site is based on love not fear='safe!'
I understand what you mean concerning CIA,FBI etc. monitoring sites and am sure they will do here-we have nothing to hide;the cabal's have evrything to hide so what the heck!

Myra 09-09-2008 03:35 PM

Re: Is This Site safe?
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Norval (Post 3858)
Is this site safe?

The better question was, "Is this planet safe?". Well, is the galaxy safe, or for that mater, the universe? That would depend on our ET neighbors, after all, there are only two "kinds" of ET's.

1. Those you would want for a neighbor. :welcomeani:

2. Those you wouldn't want for a neighbor because you couldn't trust them with your kids, cows, or anus. :mad3:

As I am all ready a "known" to the PtB (powers that be) there is no reason, or way, to hide in any fashion for me. Waves a "hello" to the Information Acquisition and Control IAC) agents that are on every forum. :thumbdown:
Norval

:lmfao: LOL hilarious I know what you mean but at least you're on a boat!

THE eXchanger 09-09-2008 03:41 PM

Re: Is This Site safe?
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by llogun (Post 1700)
I think playing it safe

good you define for us,
what you think "playing it safe is" ???

that sounds like something someone imprinted you with

play it safe, rather than be sorry

i'd rather be sorry, that i did NOT play it safe !!!

besides, we can do more damage as "original sparks"
without physical bodies...
they know that,
that is why many truthseekers, and, truth_sayers
are walking around, and, NOT having any problems

dead men - and, dead women
do TALK

A lot of their game, is UP

NOW, is a time, for many of us to gather
and, to be, who we are,
and, do that authenically !!!

Ask, ask, ask --
your own higher guidance - or essence aka higher self/or a monad

who you really are

why you are here in this time

and, what it is that you need to start to do

and, get doing it !!!

fear - is NOT something i subscribe too

(say, that last line until you really feel it)

then, you will know,

you have arrived at a place,

where if someone aims a ball at you,

you can hit it !!!

Ask, what your mission/and, your purpose is

if you do NOT know

then, sit quietly for 13-15 minutes
until you can do this, without a thought entering
your mind

then, put a pen/or pencil into your hand
and, see, what you start to write

you might be totally amazed at what lands on the page

we are here, to be solutions,
and, in order to be solution oriented,
you tackle problems, at a higher level,
than, whatever it was that created them.

one of my favourite sayings is this:

"you can NOT throw MUD...at dirt"
White Lotus Star

JesterTerrestrial 09-09-2008 03:59 PM

Re: Is This Site safe?
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by eXchanger (Post 3888)
good you define for us,
what you think "playing it safe is" ???

that sounds like something someone imprinted you with

play it safe, rather than be sorry

i'd rather be sorry, that i did NOT play it safe !!!

besides, we can do more damage as "original sparks"
without physical bodies...
they know that,
that is why many truthseekers, and, truth_sayers
are walking around, and, NOT having any problems

dead men - and, dead women
do TALK

A lot of their game, is UP

NOW, is a time, for many of us to gather
and, to be, who we are,
and, do that authenically !!!

Ask, ask, ask --
your own higher guidance - or essence aka higher self/or a monad

who you really are

why you are here in this time

and, what it is that you need to start to do

and, get doing it !!!

fear - is NOT something i subscribe too

(say, that last line until you really feel it)

then, you will know,

you have arrived at a place,

where if someone aims a ball at you,

you can hit it !!!

Ask, what your mission/and, your purpose is

if you do NOT know

then, sit quietly for 13-15 minutes
until you can do this, without a thought entering
your mind

then, put a pen/or pencil into your hand
and, see, what you start to write

you might be totally amazed at what lands on the page

we are here, to be solutions,
and, in order to be solution oriented,
you tackle problems, at a higher level,
than, whatever it was that created them.

one of my favourite sayings is this:

"you can NOT throw MUD...at dirt"
White Lotus Star

I hear what your saying but why so many spaces on your words? This thing has auto word wrap. Its hard to read long spaced out posts, maybe its just my vertigo kicking in again. :original:

21sept 09-09-2008 05:18 PM

Re: Is This Site safe?
 
Remember the Roman Legions 'golden' rule DIVIDE AND CONQUER We must do our utmost NOT to be divided about the important issues.

This forum has been brought to us by two very caring people, who must have felt very divided many times in the past, as they came up against all the inconsistencies in their public and private lives. BUT they kept it together stayed on track and did what had to be done, the same with the Eagles Disobey team. WE CAN DO THIS ALSO, all it takes is...

TOLERANCE TO THE ENth DEGREE and SINCERITY

if we are to know courage, we must first feel fear. A stout heart overshadows shaking knees :mfr_lol:

cheetah11 09-09-2008 05:52 PM

Re: Is This Site safe?
 
Hello! To all. Wow! My Heart is full of so much joy after reading all these wonderful replys. I truly cant not stop from shedding tears of happiness. All of us coming together to make this world a better place, to help one another. I feel so empowered that no fear will enter in. Be at peace, we were all meant to be here at this moment in time to help all humanity and save our beautiful Earth. Always look for the positive in everything, live in the moment, and love life. Please send out loving thoughts to all people and dont forget the animals. Sorry this probably sounds so mushy, but I am so greatful for this website Bill and Kerry developed and to know there are so many others out there awakening.:original:

QueenOfLeon 09-09-2008 06:30 PM

Re: Is This Site safe?
 
My point is this, and call me paranoid but I prefer the word sensible....I have been fantastising and looking for communities like this where we can connect and build communities for survival, however something always stops me from agreeing to meet anyone in the flesh, and YES I know I need to get over this...but you just dont know. I could build a wonderful rapport with a few of you, maybe alot of you and feel a genuine kin ship with you, but we are dealing with trained actors here, so how do you know really who each other are? The fact is you dont, so when you do meet up, how do you know your not giving your vitals out to some luciferian worshiping mole after a promotion? YOU DONT!! And that dear friends is my point!

Im not scared cos I know I have been here before and I will be here again, I also know I planned this incarnation at this time for a reason....but I certainly wont be giving the game away to some random I dont know. Nomatter how lovely you all seem.

And you do all seem lovely!

*Hug!!*

Anyone else agree?

golden lady 09-09-2008 06:38 PM

Re: Is This Site safe?
 
:lightsabre:For a few mins whilst registering my profile I did worry about safety but for once I thought it's about time to stand up and be counted. One for and all for one! Nows not the time to hide, to fear man, nows the time to stand united, who's with me?
Love and Peace to all.

golden lady 09-09-2008 07:12 PM

Re: Is This Site safe?
 
Realised how fiesty that last post sounded, actually i'm really scared and spend many nights wide awake as If on 'watch'. Many times waking with a very fast heart beat so much so I' been to the hospital twice with it. All medical tests ok Can' be explained. Also have ringing in the ears and pins and needles.
Love, peace and courage to all


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