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arcora 09-27-2008 06:18 PM

Disappearing threads?
 
I keep noticing threads disappearing.

Are they being deleted?

Cookie 09-27-2008 06:25 PM

Re: Disappearing threads?
 
Hi, Arcora...

Threads aren't and shouldn't be deleted..I've been doing some housekeeping and moving some threads to more appropriate boards. I've been leaving 2 day re-directs so people can find them.

Cookie

arcora 09-27-2008 06:30 PM

Re: Disappearing threads?
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Cookie (Post 29937)
Hi, Arcora...

Threads aren't and shouldn't be deleted..I've been doing some housekeeping and moving some threads to more appropriate boards. I've been leaving 2 day re-directs so people can find them.

Cookie

The most recent one to disappear began as a discussion about guns and became a very interesting discussion about the morality of self defense.

Now it is gone. Poof. It doesn't exist.

Should I keep you posted as I notice others?

Cookie 09-27-2008 06:32 PM

Re: Disappearing threads?
 
yes please.

arcora 09-27-2008 06:33 PM

Re: Disappearing threads?
 
Since threads aren't deleted can you provide any information as to where the thread I mentioned is?

PodWORLD 09-27-2008 06:36 PM

Re: Disappearing threads?
 
My post count miserly though it is dropped by twenty the other day so I think some may have.

I bet you the same braniacs that pm'd the witnesses out of here have once again loved something to deletion.

Maybe morality was too real a concept.

Cheers, Chris

zorgon 09-27-2008 06:42 PM

Re: Disappearing threads?
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Cookie (Post 29937)
Threads aren't and shouldn't be deleted..

Uh huh... sure

and mine are where? :lmao:

arcora 09-27-2008 06:46 PM

Re: Disappearing threads?
 
Certainly mods wouldn't delete threads to further their own agenda or eradicate ideas that contradicted their belief systems.

Would they?

zorgon 09-27-2008 06:55 PM

Re: Disappearing threads?
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by arcora (Post 29957)
Certainly mods wouldn't delete threads to further their own agenda or eradicate ideas that contradicted their belief systems.

Would they?

Ummm err... no no of course not... never happen... unless... mods are human :shocked:

droid56 09-27-2008 07:01 PM

Re: Disappearing threads?
 
I started the thread about guns.

I figured a mod thought it was inappropriate, and deleted it.

By the way, I indicated my unwillingness to use them in possible difficult times ahead, but if those times occur, people might very well have to make a decision concerning their usage.

arcora 09-27-2008 07:01 PM

Re: Disappearing threads?
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by zorgon (Post 29961)
Ummm err... no no of course not... never happen... unless... mods are human :shocked:

Yes - human. But they are spiritually enlightened, right? Aren't they on the front lines of our fight against the Orwellian regime(s)?

arcora 09-27-2008 07:09 PM

Re: Disappearing threads?
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by droid56 (Post 29963)
I started the thread about guns.

I figured a mod thought it was inappropriate, and deleted it.

By the way, I indicated my unwillingness to use them in possible difficult times ahead, but if those times occur, people might very well have to make a decision concerning their usage.

I thought it turned into something very appropriate. It became a very thought provoking discussion about the morality of self defense. It's too bad it's gone. It probably would have helped some people to look inward and decide how they could best approach coming situations and protect their 'radiant zones'.

Oh well. I'm sure the mods had a noble reason for deleting it. It's probably best to not think of such things...

zorgon 09-27-2008 07:26 PM

Re: Disappearing threads?
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by arcora (Post 29964)
Yes - human. But they are spiritually enlightened, right? Aren't they on the front lines of our fight against the Orwellian regime(s)?

Well look at it this way...

If your intent was to disrupt the search for truth... what better way than to sign up as a mod :yikes:

So who is to know? Until they get caught :bleh:

You DID read this, yes?


Deleted threads - intetrim update
Hi, Folks:

This is a very brief interim update. We're continuing to check into this, and it seems to have been either a hack or someone impersonating (or logging in as) a moderator. If so, it would have been at a sophisticated level. We'll restore the threads if we possibly can.

Very best to all, Bill

zorgon 09-27-2008 07:30 PM

Re: Disappearing threads?
 
Maybe I will switch sides

THEY have all the cool toys like space lasers, secret spaceships, stargates and looking glasses that can see into the future...

THEY have control of all the money and can buy escape retreats in Dubai like Halliburton is doing with all the money they made on the war

Yup that's the ticket... if ya can't beat them, join them

BUSH UBERALLES!!!! :thumb_yello:

See you on the Mars Colony
:tongue2:

arcora 09-27-2008 07:51 PM

Re: Disappearing threads?
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by zorgon (Post 29980)
Well look at it this way...

If your intent was to disrupt the search for truth... what better way than to sign up as a mod :yikes:

So who is to know? Until they get caught :bleh:

You DID read this, yes?


Deleted threads - intetrim update
Hi, Folks:

This is a very brief interim update. We're continuing to check into this, and it seems to have been either a hack or someone impersonating (or logging in as) a moderator. If so, it would have been at a sophisticated level. We'll restore the threads if we possibly can.

Very best to all, Bill

So could it be inferred that someone wants us defenseless?

gazbom 09-27-2008 08:12 PM

Re: Disappearing threads?
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by arcora (Post 29994)
So could it be inferred that someone wants us defenseless?

I had a thread about 1 million kids go missing every year in the US and UK, that's gone missing too!
Does that mean they want us childless!

odiseo 09-27-2008 08:29 PM

Re: Disappearing threads?
 
What ever is happening it feels like many of things written by the contactees and member where in the right direction and simply (THEY) don't want us to know. My advice to Bill and Kerry is to be careful who they put as a mod in here. I don't blame them to restrict the site access or temporally remove some post if the site was hacked. Its really sad that this people keep doing this , i know that Bill and Kerry has put a lot of efforts to create this place. If (THEY) are reding this let me tell you something , i wont leave the forum , i'll try to support this site as much as i can and no matter what (THEY) do the truth will be known , we will be united more than ever. I thanks personally the administrators and the good mods of this wonderful place to let me join in and hope that the responsible for this could be known and simply be kick out on here. Much love and light to you all, Namaste.

Cookie 09-27-2008 08:36 PM

Re: Disappearing threads?
 
Hi, arcora, the thread that you are looking for is being reviewed by staff. I'll let you know more when I find out, OK?

Hey, gazbom, I remember that thread.. it was a good one. I'm trying to find out what happened to it. I'll get back to you!

Peace..Cookie

gazbom 09-27-2008 08:39 PM

Re: Disappearing threads?
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Cookie (Post 30025)
Hi, arcora, the thread that you are looking for is being reviewed by staff. I'll let you know more when I find out, OK?

Hey, gazbom, I remember that thread.. it was a good one. I'm trying to find out what happened to it. I'll get back to you!

Peace..Cookie

Thanks Cookie!

arcora 09-27-2008 09:39 PM

Re: Disappearing threads?
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Cookie (Post 30025)
Hi, arcora, the thread that you are looking for is being reviewed by staff. I'll let you know more when I find out, OK?

Being reviewed by staff...

Sounds very impressive.

Why remove it to review it?

Sounds like someone didn't like it and removed it temporarily so that Bill or Kerry can decide whether or not it is a proper discussion for us.

Thank you for protecting us from ourselves.

Carol 09-27-2008 09:43 PM

Re: Disappearing threads?
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by odiseo (Post 30021)
What ever is happening it feels like many of things written by the contactees and member where in the right direction and simply (THEY) don't want us to know. My advice to Bill and Kerry is to be careful who they put as a mod in here. I don't blame them to restrict the site access or temporally remove some post if the site was hacked. Its really sad that this people keep doing this , i know that Bill and Kerry has put a lot of efforts to create this place. If (THEY) are reding this let me tell you something , i wont leave the forum , i'll try to support this site as much as i can and no matter what (THEY) do the truth will be known , we will be united more than ever. I thanks personally the administrators and the good mods of this wonderful place to let me join in and hope that the responsible for this could be known and simply be kick out on here. Much love and light to you all, Namaste.


Aloha odiseo,

Actually there are several mods who are contactees and several more contactees we are currently reviewing to add. All of us are committed to the truth being revealed or we wouldn't be here. Thank you for your concern so that we had an opportunity to clear up any misperception regarding this particular issue. Glad that you're here. :thumb_yello:

Mahalo,

Carol

Carol 09-27-2008 09:47 PM

Re: Disappearing threads?
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by arcora (Post 30062)
Being reviewed by staff...

Sounds very impressive.

Why remove it to review it?

Sounds like someone didn't like it and removed it temporarily so that Bill or Kerry can decide whether or not it is a proper discussion for us.

Thank you for protecting us from ourselves.

Aloha arcora,

It appears you may have missed previous posts. Threads are being reviewed and sorted into appropriate catagories to make it easier for folks to find their thread topic. A number of folks posted theads that should have been in the Camelot section and vice versa.

This has nothing to do about protecting anybody. It's just a matter of fine-tuning and streamlining a few thousand threads.

Mahalo,

Carol

Steve_G 09-27-2008 09:53 PM

Re: Disappearing threads?
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by gazbom (Post 30012)
I had a thread about 1 million kids go missing every year in the US and UK, that's gone missing too!
Does that mean they want us childless!

Funny you should say that, I lost the thread entitled "The Great White Brotherhood." I was asking for info about the GWB in any and all forms, and was getting information about ascended masters and Illuminati secret magical orders. It mysteriously vanished from the spirituality section.

I'm pretty sure there's a connection between missing kids and secret Illuminati rituals.

Hmmm... I'm beginning to see a pattern here... Gonna change my name to Sherlock and buy a big pipe. :original:

Cookie, I don't suppose you've come across that thread have you?

Blessings

odiseo 09-27-2008 10:38 PM

Re: Disappearing threads?
 
Im very happy to help any way i can Carol love and light to you :) Namaste

arcora 09-27-2008 10:48 PM

Re: Disappearing threads?
 
I know that Bill & Kerry have invited us here to discuss issues with like minded people. It is their 'home' and, as such, if I am to participate I need to follow their rules.

I bought into the line that the forum was recently changed to remain in line with the core focus of the founders. It didn't feel right to me, but I bought it.

Now there are basically two forums. One (Camelot) is where we can go and read about the things we are not allowed to discuss. The second (Avalon) is where we can discuss the things that are allowed.

Now evidently, as discussions arise, someone (The Decider) will determine whether or not a particular aspect of What Is Allowed may be spoken of.

No offense guys but this reeeeeeeeks of mind control.

This forum is beginning to remind me of this...

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mnNSe5XYp6E

and this...

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-qlJqR4GmKw

That being said - I am not accusing anyone here of trying to form a cult. However, restricting freedom of thought is mind control and sets a dangerous precedent that leads down a slippery slope.

So.

Are we adult free thinkers who have been invited here to discuss topics and issues that are of mutual concern? Or are we being indoctrinated into someone else's belief system?

Do the founders and mods here have faith that if a member starts a thread about furry spotted puppies that the rest of the members will not be interested and the thread will die? Or is the mindset of 'management' more controlling in nature?

I ask seriously and would like serious answers.

Anchor 09-27-2008 11:55 PM

Re: Disappearing threads?
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Cookie (Post 30025)
Hi, arcora, the thread that you are looking for is being reviewed by staff. I'll let you know more when I find out, OK?

Hey, gazbom, I remember that thread.. it was a good one. I'm trying to find out what happened to it. I'll get back to you!

Peace..Cookie

Thanks Cookie

Whatever is decided it needs to be done transparently. I know from experience that Moderating behind closed doors is a recipie for disaster. I know things are moving very quickly at the moment and that we should be patient.

The recent posting from Carol containing Bills thoughts on the structure of Avalon is an example (the post not necessarily its content!) of exactly the kind of transparency required. (http://projectavalon.net/forum/showt...9992#post29992)

Yesterday, I asked the question on the spirituality sub-forum in the thread "So Long" concerning Henry Deacon apparently leaving the forum "Are we being hacked" the answer I got was "No", followed by two moderator comments, one of which was that the service provider had applied a security script without telling anyone and this had caused some errors.

So if we are not being hacked, then threads are being removed from view officialy.

Quite apart from any of our self deluded ego reasons as to why we think our contributions are important - to be honest my main concern is that if feels quite out of character with the rest of what is going on on this forum - whch by the way is absolutely amazing.

A..

SynchrOMicity 09-29-2008 12:47 AM

Re: Disappearing threads?
 
MOD-ER-ATOR interesting concept, profanity yes,out and out rudeness yes,very fine line, whos da judge? I had one nuked of only two threads, that i felt to share. i had private contacts that shared the same experience ,with profound energy shared. But i understand alot has to be organized in a very short amount of time, this forum is still a baby as far as iam concerned. i will be around until iam not.

just a note on guns, in Indy gun sales went up 100% this week, according to their local news! Interesting.

Cookie 09-29-2008 12:58 AM

Re: Disappearing threads?
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by SynchrOMicity (Post 31159)
. But i understand alot has to be organized in a very short amount of time, this forum is still a baby as far as iam concerned.

SynchrOMicity... thank you for understanding! So much has happened here so quickly. I know that it appears that staff is hiding information, censoring information, but, the is NOT the case.. We are trying to organize this place and it is an enormous job.

Peace..Cookie

Sherab 09-29-2008 06:18 AM

Re: Disappearing threads?
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by arcora (Post 29939)
The most recent one to disappear began as a discussion about guns and became a very interesting discussion about the morality of self defense.

Now it is gone. Poof. It doesn't exist.

Should I keep you posted as I notice others?


Yeah, I'm mad too. I was just starting make myself look smart on that thread.

And why would a discussion about the morality of self-defense need to be reviewed? That seems to be an extremely relevant topic considering the whole world is going to explode by Oct. 14th.

kungfugrip 09-29-2008 06:24 AM

Re: Disappearing threads?
 
I have had several disappearing threads as well

Sherab 09-29-2008 06:27 AM

Re: Disappearing threads?
 
Maybe we should take our threads to the local news, and make flyers of them and post them everywhere...you know, hide them out in the open.

Carol 09-29-2008 06:30 AM

Re: Disappearing threads?
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Sherab (Post 31416)
Yeah, I'm mad too. I was just starting make myself look smart on that thread.

And why would a discussion about the morality of self-defense need to be reviewed? That seems to be an extremely relevant topic considering the whole world is going to explode by Oct. 14th.

Aloha Sherab,

I think they planned to move that thead to the Camelot Forum. However, we already know you're smart. :thumb_yello:
Mahalo,

Carol

Sherab 09-29-2008 06:31 AM

Re: Disappearing threads?
 
So you've already dug the grave? What, no wake?

sirian77 09-29-2008 09:10 AM

Re: Disappearing threads?
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by arcora (Post 29933)
I keep noticing threads disappearing.

Are they being deleted?

they must be on the other timeline! :lmao:

yettyn 09-29-2008 12:20 PM

Re: Disappearing threads?
 
Last week I posted in another thread, and later also sent a PM to Bill, about the possibility that this forum might be running an insecure version of vBulletin and that a patch release has been released (as early as 4 sep.). However, so far I have seen no reaction, no response from Bill to my PM or that the version label in forum footer has changed. Unfortunately, in lack of valid response I fear this forum has been taken over some how. Please prove me wrong!

There is the vBulletin announcement, as as you see the flaw allows accounts to be compromised and hence with enough privileges could do things like deleting threads or implementing a new set of 'policies' to 'review' aka censure posts.

Quote:

vBulletin 3.7.3 PL1 and 3.6.11 PL1 Released
vBulletin 3.7.3 PL1 / vBulletin 3.6.11 PL1

A report was published recently pointing to potential flaws within the random number generator in PHP applications who use a weak seed and then go on to disclose any of the random numbers generated. This flaw could allow random numbers within vBulletin to be predicted and under the correct circumstances allow an attacker to obtain access to a user's account. To resolve this issue, it is necessary to release patch level versions of vBulletin 3.7.3 and 3.6.11.

This original flaw was discovered by Stefan Esser and its application within vBulletin by Tom Harwood.

The upgrade process is the same as previous patch level releases - simply download the patch from the Members Area, extract the files and upload to your webserver, overwriting the existing files. There is no upgrade script required.

As with all security-based releases, we recommend that all customers upgrade as soon as possible in order to prevent any potential damage resulting from the flaw being exploited.

Stephen 09-29-2008 12:45 PM

Re: Disappearing threads?
 
If the Staff here is going to delete or move threads to a locked area I would STRONGLY suggest then to PM the people that have been affected.

If someone has the time to Delete/Move threads then they have the time to PM people and let them know what is going on.

Sherab 09-29-2008 03:24 PM

Re: Disappearing threads?
 
:lmao:

Quote:

Originally Posted by sirian77 (Post 31514)
they must be on the other timeline! :lmao:


NewParadigmGuy 10-30-2008 02:36 PM

Re: Disappearing threads?
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Stephen (Post 31612)
If the Staff here is going to delete or move threads to a locked area I would STRONGLY suggest then to PM the people that have been affected.

If someone has the time to Delete/Move threads then they have the time to PM people and let them know what is going on.

It appears that your suggestions have fallen upon deaf ears...

SplatPantZ 10-30-2008 02:41 PM

Re: Disappearing threads?
 
Mod Simons Avalon thread missing, over 1 hundred posts and this morning vannished!

Hi splat..

From my understanding, Simons thread has been taken off for a 'review' under request of Bill. As soon as I have more info then members will be informed ok.

peace

Kate

Kate 10-30-2008 02:48 PM

Re: Disappearing threads?
 
[QUOTE=SplatPantZ;65667]Mod Simons Avalon thread missing, over 1 hundred posts and this morning vannished!

Hi splat..

From my understanding, Simons thread has been taken off for a 'review' under request of Bill. As soon as I have more info then members will be informed ok.

peace

Kate


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