Why is Kinsuemei2 banned?
 

I've been reading his posts and see nothing that would justify this action. He has a right to his opinion and sharing his story is what folks do here.

Re: Why is Kinsuemei2 banned?
 

I do not know how to see who gets banned or not but I sure can't figure out why anyone would ban Kinsuemei2

The guy had alot of manners and I'm sure he didnt offend anyone. Did he say too much maybe ?

Re: Why is Kinsuemei2 banned?
 

How do you know he's banned?

Re: Why is Kinsuemei2 banned?
 

What was he posting on?

Re: Why is Kinsuemei2 banned?
 

I wonder what Carol meant as I just looked and it shows that he is on. His name is in a different color but who has time for checking that nonsence out

I wonder if she just seen banned in checking his status but I believe thats someone uses that name LOL

who knows anything anymore

Re: Why is Kinsuemei2 banned?
 

He's logged on, but is grayed out and his icon says Banned. Maybe something went down in PMs. I had nothing against the guy.
Bill "the Doctor"

Re: Why is Kinsuemei2 banned?
 

Check his profile page. http://www.projectavalon.net/forum/member.php?u=9204

Kinsuemei2
Banned

Being banned he can look but not post. Also his avatar picture disappeared when I was reading some of his threads so something just happened within the past 30 minutes.

Re: Why is Kinsuemei2 banned?
 

OMG I see what you mean Carol


I feel really bad because I think he is a very decent man

What a pity

Re: Why is Kinsuemei2 banned?
 

i have called Gaialove and asked him to look into it..

We both enjoy his posts as well...He said that he knows of no reason why he would be banned

Might be a mistake..

Re: Why is Kinsuemei2 banned?
 

Hello to all,

Kinsuemei2 has been banned for hoaxing information.

Sincerely

Ross H.

Re: Why is Kinsuemei2 banned?
 

Hoaxing????

When a loved member gets banned.... people are going to react...

Is it unfair of us to ask for more information?

I am not trying to question Mods decisions...

Re: Why is Kinsuemei2 banned?
 

Wait please - while I work on getting more information ...

Re: Why is Kinsuemei2 banned?
 

Thank you Karen

Re: Why is Kinsuemei2 banned?
 

Hoaxing what? Given some of what he shared I think we need to know what evidence there is against him and exactly what was hoaxed.

Re: Why is Kinsuemei2 banned?
 

I agree if there was "mis information"..we should know..

Re: Why is Kinsuemei2 banned?
 

This may take some time ...

Re: Why is Kinsuemei2 banned?
 

Ok check this out and this is the posting that first ran through my mind after reading what Carol put down

http://projectavalon.net/forum/showt...wilcock&page=2

Re: Why is Kinsuemei2 banned?
 

Umm...what's hoaxing??

Deliberate mis-info???

Re: Why is Kinsuemei2 banned?
 

"Hoaxing"!! :lol3:

Half this site is "hoaxing"...

More to it I'm sure.

Re: Why is Kinsuemei2 banned?
 

You bring up a great point..one that has been on my mind..

Is it a positive to allow "unsubstantiated"threads.. to continue?

Now.. i suppose the cons will win versus the pros... but..

i do feel a certain responsibility to the "newly awakened"..to offer them a path based on truth and truisms...

Not an easy task i must say..

Re: Why is Kinsuemei2 banned?
 

Yes.

Re: Why is Kinsuemei2 banned?
 

i have the utmost respect for you Ross and the other mods because i am convinced you all are fair..

i do hope you understand our concern

Re: Why is Kinsuemei2 banned?
 

IMO nobody should ever be banned from a site such as this. These are very stressfull and trying times and the information comes in many and challenging ways. There are so many parallels between "projecting" fantasy and wishfullness and that being a trigger for an "answer". If we truly are looking for the building blocks I'm afraid everything must go into the mixer. I believe in unpacking the information as it comes and how it comes and I have met many who have "intuited" their own gateway from frankly ridiculous ideation and positions....Let the data flow.

Re: Why is Kinsuemei2 banned?
 

Yes...keep the flood gates of Information , open.

But...
There is purposeful Mis -Information that should not be welcome here...

There must be a neutral moderating of the forum based of guidelines approved by representatives of the whole...

This is my humble opinion..

Re: Why is Kinsuemei2 banned?
 

I have to agree with K626

Half the people Kerry and Bill interview can't be trusted to be telling the full story and they know it

So who decides if you are telling the truth or not ? Certainly God is not monitoring the forum


Why should any of us JUDGE anyone else on this site ? Most of the time if people disagree with someone on this forum, they just IGNORE them.

I happen to think that every person should be free to post unless its rude and ofensive to another person

Re: Why is Kinsuemei2 banned?
 

Ross, what is the deliberate disinfo.

Since I personally know, met and have been at presentations that David Wilcox did and have a lot of insider info, I agree with Kinsuemei2 regarding him. And I will never forget David grabbing his genitals during his presentation just as my 13 year old daughter walked into the room. It was obscene. As I also attended 3 of his presentations... almost all identical but publicized as different, we were really put off as it cost us a lot of money and wasted time since my husband arranged to take a day off work to attend. It was in essence a real rip-off.

Next, it is clear to be David is totally into the celebrity thingy and anyone can figure that out just by listening him talk about himself. My other info regarding David also comes from other friends of his who have known him for awhile and have stated that Davids idea of research is google. Take it for what you will but if Kinsuemei2 is being banned for anything that he had to post regarding DW then something is very wrong in Kansas here on this forum.

Re: Why is Kinsuemei2 banned?
 

Hmmm

Good points i must say.

So...what if people are getting "duped"..should there be any kind of investigation of what people are "spreading around" In your opinion?

Re: Why is Kinsuemei2 banned?
 

I'm always keen to see what "the other side" are upto. :original:

ATS for instance was for quite a while bogged down by "the dark side". :lol3:

Re: Why is Kinsuemei2 banned?
 

Agreed.

K.

Re: Why is Kinsuemei2 banned?
 

And how can you tell it's 'deliberate'?
I'm glad I stated that in my opinion the GFL is utter BS, when I started my 'The Ashtar Command...' thread.

It's not a good development when moderators start randomly ban people whenever the mood strikes, because it suits them.

Re: Why is Kinsuemei2 banned?
 

Carol, I can feel your anger and embarrassment.

I felt that way the very first interview that I ever listened to of his with Kerry. I got a very sick feeling

I force myself to listen to another one of us his videos from the LA Conference but I felt it was all made up of very important other peoples views. Not impressed at all

Re: Why is Kinsuemei2 banned?
 

Bill Ryan banned Kinsuemei2. The Admin just followed his directive.

Re: Why is Kinsuemei2 banned?
 

My understanding is that this is a private forum. That said it still is a bit strange to know someone was banned because of dis-information.....and thats all we know. It does create barrier of sorts.

plucked in the middle of the night.:naughty:


kidding.:original:

Re: Why is Kinsuemei2 banned?
 

Hi, Everyone:

Sorry to have to do this. It was my call, and I take full responsibility.

Kinsuemei2 was also masquerading as "Heather Anderson" who was a non-existent person. Kinsuemei and "Heather" had both e-mailed Camelot with literally near-unbelievable stories written in a very similar style. There were all kinds of problems with the information.

Four days ago, Eleni was contacted by Kinsuemei stating that "Heather" had been killed in a traffic accident. All my red flags went up and I did an IP cross-check on the e-mails we had received at Camelot.

I should have done this earlier. It's a wrap, I'm afraid. The IP address on separate e-mails from Kinsuemei and from Heather was identical: 67.132.69.188.

[Image removed re: Bill Ryan request]

We found just now that it was also shared on the forum by Kinsuemei2, HeatherJJAnderson, Kane944, and KilaSolai.

I appreciated many of Kinsuemei's posts on the forum. But I have zero sympathy or tolerance for hoaxers. The real super-soldiers wasted time and energy examining "Heather's" story (Kudos to Duncan O'Finioan, btw: he decided right at the start that it was bogus). To post this kind of invention is a real slap in the face to the real-deal folk. I wrote to Kinsuemei that he does not deserve the time of day from any one of these very fine people.

So if anyone knowingly hoaxes information and it comes to my attention, it's a permanent ban. If I decide it's proved beyond any doubt, I'll make the call immediately and will take full responsibility. There's enough wild information circulating which makes the jobs of researchers much harder... having an internal saboteur does not help the world be a better place.

Expect criticism from Kinsuemei, by the way... please ignore it. We have to learn, and move on.

With best wishes to all, Bill

Re: Why is Kinsuemei2 banned?
 

Really!!

What I read was just someone saying what they thought, you know, "free speech" and I did not see any reason why Kinsuemei2 was banned unless something did happen via hidden PM`s which if it was the case then maybe it was justified, suppose we will never know.

umm, The ptb, wow they are everywhere... Sheeples too.

Re: Why is Kinsuemei2 banned?
 

Thank you bill..

.................hmmm

Re: Why is Kinsuemei2 banned?
 

Good grief. This reminds me of Sol aka Egg. One of the rules here is only one identity, only the real person is allowed. I'm sorry that Kinsuemei2 blew it as he was a very interesting poster. I was also under the impression that he had cancer and was dying. Do we know if this is true? In fact... does anyone know what is real here and what is not?

Re: Why is Kinsuemei2 banned?
 

wow Bill, that IS quite a situation. I see your reaction as fair.

Four different member names, Kind of like impersonation. lol.

weird.:original:

Re: Why is Kinsuemei2 banned?
 

*celine hugs carol*

i know exactly how you feel..

Re: Why is Kinsuemei2 banned?
 

Who knows where the wind blows...