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Is Death Really A Bad Thing? I want your opinion
With all the disturbing things and wonderful things we have been researching over the years, it seems at times there are more questions than answers.
For me it was learning about how the banking system works that started my journey about 3 years ago. From there it all began to unravel as I discovered that planet Earth is ruled by a small number of psychopaths who despise humanity and are ravenous to consume everything in site for the feeding of desires and extreme self indulgence. They have total control over the Earth and have had for thousands, if not millions, of years; and all attempts to stop them have failed. The desire to look outside our visible reality for freedom is strong...so...we think...and..we look and we ponder and we reason... There must be another form of reality that is reachable to us. Maybe we are in it already. Maybe it is in us. Maybe that's where we came from. Maybe thats where we are going. Maybe we are dreaming it all. Which leads us to the question.... Is Death Really a Bad Thing? Comments please! |
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I think that would depend on the person, and whether they had lived a full and satisfying life, or have left things unfinished, as to whether they feel the parting of their soul and body is a good thing at that time or not.
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death is a part of life ... in life there is death ...
is life a bad thing? death is not a bad thing either ... for the ones left grieving for their loved ones ... death is sad ... then equated to being a bad thing ... because it causes 'us' pain ... for the ones who have passed on ... death is but a walkway ... to yet another adventure ... what did buzz light year say ... to infinity and beyond ... life and death are circular ... no beginning and no end ... only changes ... within ... there is as much beauty in death as there is in life ... there is as much life in death as there is is in life ... we have not as yet opened up to this realization ... we "think" in terms of limitations ... we don't quite yet fully "feel" ... within expansion ... of what really is ... but we're getting there ... we're plodding along ... stepping out of our narrowness and into full expansion of knowing and experiencing all that is ... death is not bad ... it is though very sad ... when a life is taken ... by another human being or beings ... for self serving agendas ... that is sad as well as bad ... and this will have to change ... but death in itself ... is simply but a walkway ... to infinite exploration ... and experiences ... :wub2: |
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its as natural as anything in existence, and plenty of evidence supports that you've done it a bazillion times.
heres a link to my blog about this subject http://superstrangeland.blogspot.com...soul_3953.html -clark |
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My tendency is to think that it is not bad.
It is a part of the natural life that we have given ourselves. In my studys of death like NDE's, OBE's, Astral travel, ETC... I think death gets a general rating of positive. |
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I think that death is unnecessary, and why it exists is "beyond" me!
I want God to apologize for it and stop the madness! I also think that it is rather strange that while we have to eat, something has to die. I think that God ought to apologize to all and stop the madness. I don't find a suitable box to check in the multiple choice question. |
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Why would God make us in his image and then kill us off? Why did God produce a planet where the inhabitance eat each other, then say that he loves us? Maybe God is something other than what we have been told. |
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You can choose more than one option in the poll.
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There is a 'higher agenda' and which relates to what clark has said (I'm rather impressed with him and his holistic perspectives on his site). The key is consciousness and selfawareness in EVOLVEMENT. There will be a 'time' as written:
This planet earth is 'alive' just as you are. It has a consciousness distributed on many interwoven levels. There is a 'root consciousness' due to its spacial volume and its mass and there are trillions of feedback loops with all the lifeforms residing on this planet. So when an alligator eats a fish for example, the 'consciousness' of all participants, earth, alligator and fish (only to name the three majors there is also atmosphere, other fish and alligators etc. etc interacting) - changes via frequency modulations changing energy selfstates definable by 'experience factors'. Physically, the 'fish consciousness' becomes part of the alligator - remember the saying you are what you eat; and metaphysically the fish 'becomes alligator conscious'. Somewhat poetically, the 'dead' fish becomes superconscious from the subconsciousness after becoming unconscious from its waking consciousness'. You can call this a 'spiritual transformation' or collapse/emergence of particle-and wavefunctions in quantum mechanical terms. Now this might 'blow your mind' (however less so than most others not so weird as ourselves) - the alligator's consciousness is root-coupled in physicality to the planetary consciousness {the alligator grew from an egg using planetary resources say} BUT is also coupled to a 'missing part' of 'alien intelligence'. Iow PHYSICALLY the alligator is an earth creature, but in terms of its NONHUMAN being (defined in the evolutionary decoupling in say mitochondrial DNA), the alligator is an ET. This is why the earth is quarantined and remains isolated from the rest of the sentient universe. The so called GENETIC EXPERIMENT of Man, associated with the 'seeding of the earth' is much more profound, than either the 'New Agers, i.e. Annunaki of Mesopotamian lores' or the 'Theosophists' or name it yourself have discerned so far. Overall in the planetary perspective; Gaia EXPERIENCES the evolution of its creatures as the evolution of herself as a Gaian Family of Living Consciousness interacting with itself. So the food-chains of the interdependencies serve as a RAW ENFORCEMENT for the evolution of consciousness. Only in eating each other, can the root consciousness grow into its eventual 'self-realisation' of being more than itself ('I am just a self sovereign body' is caveated by: But I cannot live if I do not CONSUME the air (itself alive in consciousness) around and if I do not CONSUME water and food. Ergo, the construction of the biological body is temporary and designed to CONSUME consciousnesses to further the Gaian planetary self evolution. Then of course, Gaia is in constant feedback with the host star RahSol and through the sun to the Solar System and through the Star System to the Galactic Systerm and so forth until the Universal Consciousness is reached in the feedback mechanisms (all frequency defined). The quarantine of Gaia is a cosequence of its harbouring MAN, the grand genetic experiment by a timeless and spaceless 'program' instigated before and through the Quantum Big Bang. MAN is destined to assume the role of the 'Cosmic Steward'; the Mirror of SuperConsciousness for all other Mirrors, including 'alien intelligences' technologically far superior to the manmade and invented technology. BUT, the 'uniqueness' of Gaia (actually playing 'God's Harlot Wife' or the DOG who 'ran away' and gnostically the Barbelo of the Afterthought [Secret Book of John] and the 'Woman' in Revelation12) required a planetary environment of superdiversification and a multitude of interacting lifeforms to 'build up the consciousness' in an environment of survival instincts and self-preservation. I could go on, but due to the 'delicacy' of this information, I shall only answer questions and not just monologue about it - as is usually the case on these forums. Your question about the 1 in 10,000 is almost right. The critical mass of (human) consciouness carriers actually incarnated in bodyforms on Gaia is 7,200,000,000 or 7.2 Billion inhabitants. This is then 1 in 50,000. Now remember the Mayan superlong count is 5x13x144,000 kin-days or 9,360,000 for 25,626.8 civil years and so the proportion is 0.0013. Iow the present precessional cycle of Cro Magnon Homo Sapiens Sapiens 'cocoonisation' for its metamorphosis into StarMan following the 2012/2013 transition nexus; was preceded by a 20 Million year period of 1/0.0013=769.3 such 'precession cycles' (which were of course different in duration due to a changing planetary rotation rate). So what happened at the geological time of 20 Million years ago? The GENETIC EXPERIMENT called MAN began in the consciousness of the planet interacting with 'alien' intelligence to SEED the human consciousness for its grand programmed destiny to BRING the alien consciousness (physically on Gaia in the form of alligators, but metaphysically in 'ET-land' in 'outer space') and theGain consciousness together in CONTACT. 20 Million years ago, the Primate Evolution leading to Modern Man began in the oldest MONKEY found in the Miocene. So in terms of fossil evidence, MonkeyMan entered the Gaian theatres and a new lineage, deviating from the primate 'tree of life' began. In the Ogliocene about 30 Million years ago all primates (lineages going back to about 65 Million years ago to the extinction of the Dinosaurs and the end of the Mesozoic Era) became extinct except in Africa and Southern-Asia, due to the changing climate (sounds familiar?) and the formation of the Antarctic Ice. Your 'wonderful world' is even more profound than the most daring of utopian futurists have hitherto imagined. But yes, for any cosmic civilisation to travel intergalactically and extragalactically requires not only a wormhole technology; but demands a planetary consciousness as holographic fractal of itself to 'energize' this technology. I'll end here, but shall answer questions, if so asked. John Shadow |
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~ no 'real' death iT iS a tyme, when the so-called 'schooled' eXperts ~will realiSe how unschooled they actually really are |
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you might want to add, another option
~a timeless spark of energy, that knows NOT iTs beginning, NOR iTs end~iT just iS what iT iS |
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Yes, the "Death does not exist" option.
Very true. Maybe " It doesn't matter" comes close. |
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to every beginning there must be an end and with that end starts another journey . another journey into the heart of your imagination, so you are spinning round and round. i do not believe in one god as i think we are all gods playing a very complex game that is within another game. when death comes for you that just means you are needed somewhere else. you dont have to like it but YOU created it.
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When death comes I think I will be filled with anticipation. Maybe that's not the right word.... There's almost a feeling of excitement, but I also want to enjoy my time here. I mean, what's the rush? This time we live in is off the wall, CRAZY, scary, exciting, and maybe the way things are is exactly the way they are supposed to be? After all, if everything was perfect, what would be the point in coming here? We could just stay where we were. Part of this experience, I believe, is trying to make it better for others. Learning to cope with hardships, learning to react with dignity, and the obvious... learning to love and forgive. And have as much fun as you can doing it!! :roll1:
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and seasons change for a reason ... :wub2: |
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I'm so excited knowing I'm immortal with this endless adventure in front of me. This is how I see it.... I use to be kind of an atheist but had some events happened in my life and damn! It turned me around! So death is great, it's BIRTH that sucks! haha :original:
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Most people consider me strange because I look forward to the moment of death when I cross over again because I know it's a transition into another form of existence, much better than this. Our human body is just a shell we exist in while our soul is here on Earth learning what we came to learn, teaching what we came to teach. When we serve our purpose and learn our lessons here, we shed our human skin and our soul moves on...we've incarnated many times before and we lose our memory of other lives each time we are born.
For me, this lifetime has felt more like I'm here to do a job, or serve a purpose to help others because I've never particularly liked being here this time around. I love the Earth, but hate whats being done to destroy it, I love people but it pains me to see so much poverty, war and hatred. There is so much waste, pollution and environmental destruction its painful to watch the planet deteriorate.... I'm a very spiritual person caught up in a materialistic world and have never had a lot of money, so it's been difficult to say I enjoy life when it's always been a struggle surviving...it's hard watching the planet and civilizations crumble and not have the power to change anything. There are many times I've wondered if death would be a better alternative, because I know life on the other side is a good thing. Now don't get me wrong, that doesn't mean I'm suicidal....it's a perspective I have on death. I also believe that life is sacred and it's not my choice to take my own life, regardless of good the alternative might seem. I'm here for a reason and it's not my decision to decide when my purpose has been served. So no, I don't believe death is a bad thing at all.... |
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Unavoidable.
Not sure about desirable but certainly not something we can prevent at this stage of our evolution. |
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Like I said, am a newcomer to this forum and was mortified thinking I already offended someone. I'm glad we cleared it up. :thumb_yello: |
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We as souls open the door of " life " , walk in and then forget that we actually did so . If we don't wake up to it while we are in there then when we leave it feels as if "life" is closing the door on us and we want to get back there .And so the cycles of birth and death go on until we fully realize our immortality ..our true essence beyond life and death.We are Life eternal .. Birth and death are just a room we visit on our journey and the purpose of the visit is to switch the Light on while being there so we don't stay stuck in the dark .
Death is'nt sad ...the sad thing people don't live at all . Love Always mudra |
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Cradle to Grave, Baby..... But, I don't like to see, the real bloodly one's...
Saw, far to many... Trooly, Tango |
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Death isnt a positive or a negative...it just IS
No matter what everyones personal opinion about it...it will NOT change. Just like life. No matter if people think life begins at conception, at birth etc.. it will not change what is IS... Death Is. Life Is. i admire that...just "being"...no need for definition...no need for understanding...it just IS. |
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I believe it is not up to us per'se when we go, I just want to make sure I am not in trouble when I pass on with the masters. Like I wouldn't want to be in trouble for trying to save my skin by joining some really silly cult who think they know all the answers.
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Well, I answered the question in that I want to leave when it's time to move on...
If it's not instant, if death is not a result of an accident or a shot to the head.... i.e. If I'm at the end of this experience, I want someone with me whom I love and has developed techniques suggested by folks like william bloom. http://www.williambloom.com/pages.php?id=15 on another note... ...a friend of mine ( intuitive ) went with a group of ghost hunters to an abandoned nursing home. One's spirit/soul? followed her as demonstrated by a fragrance, my friend invited her to come home with her, and she did! The fragrance became apparent to her within her own home, so she must have accepted her invitation eh? Then she opened the door to her sunlit spare bedroom and invited her spirit to go to the light. And the fragrance lifted. Believe it, Or not. :0) This is pretty much how I work with disembodied spirits. 'I burned my cinnimon rolls while writing this'. Ugh! Kind Regards, |
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Death, moving into higher reality,it is like waking up from a dream. As you come
to the realization of all your past lives and goals you hope to seek, the physical life you just experienced fades off, but you still keep pieces of it which you learn from. In a sense this holographic life you experience from a view point of your higher self is nothing more then a learning tool, unfortunately most people it feels very real when your here and that is hard for some people to grasp. That is why I believe you should relax and enjoy it and make the most of it, because seen from higher stand point, it is really just a adventure. |
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Death is sad because its painful for the ones that are left behind.
But I look forward to a better life as being here on earth is very hard. All my life, I felt like it was truly the hell that I used to hear about. Its not so much as I believed in heaven or hell, I just felt there had to be a better place. I think we are here to find the truth and came here because we chosen to do so to help save the planet. |
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iF you make a choice, NOT to allow them, then NO |
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when you move up in consciousness, you simply, move up and, there you will meet, and, greet higher levels of consciousness, of the ones, you might of left behind (in some cases, aspects of them, they have NOT yet eXplored) iT iS ALL very interesting ~ this eXploring of all that you are |
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People fear death because it is of the unknown. They also fear it because TPTB programs their minds to fear it by instilling ideas of hell and have you thinking you are leaving before your time.
If death is inevitable wouldn’t it be wise to accept it without being afraid? Live well and pleasant and I’m sure your views of death will be viewed as a beginning to a new adventure. The 3d vessels used to move around in this realm may wear and expire but I strongly feel the soul is eternal. Earth feels like another classroom to me, and school is almost out… live gracefully and have no worries Peace |
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Death for me is like a huge pension. Relaxation and lightness after the burdens of a physical existence, where you can be free. However, this is death at the appointed time and not at your own choosing. Love, Kriya |
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Oh wow, what a beautiful way of saying it. I never thought of that. Ding Dong.......wakey wakey, Of course. You just opened something in my mind that I never gave thought to before. I like that thought and it resonates so well that I never even flinched when I read it. Wow, things are really looking up for me now Thank you so much for that beautiful insight |
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I posted this in the I Raise My Hand to Call IRRELEVANT thread and would like to share it here:
Absolutely beautiful Carol, "A child begins life in a state of wonder as everything is new, fresh." I feel like that wonder, that sense of seeking the truth, and ultimately finding it in love, is what we came for. If we came here with full knowledge and in full consciousness, there would be no 'new', so we can actually only have the 'new', 'fresh', from decreasing vibration and forgetting. Now we can choose to remember any way we like; this is also part of the excitement. Knowing that any way we deviate ultimately leads back to the One, the only limitations are in and of the mind. We can remember with the analytical left hemisphere, either paying attention to intuition or being purely mechanical and ignoring that feeling, but can only get so far and live in a state of confusion as to how much love and consciousness dances together to create our reality. The magnificence and beauty of love seems like a magical fairy tale to them. We can also choose to listen to the subtle voice of the heart, to trust our feelings and know each feeling is telling us something about our reality and surroundings. They are there so we can learn from and interpret life in a way that lets us easily see how what we are experiencing connects with what we know. For me, remembering through my heart is what gives me the greatest feelings of ecstatic love and bliss. Knowing, through feeling that connection with everything, in that vibration, and re-merging with the One Love. Death must be understood and transcended to truly experience and have the knowing of being One. Death is a word. Words are easily misunderstood, until you have an experience to link to that word. What death really is, can only be answered when you experience it. Plant spirits can help us have a conscious death experience. If one chooses to pay close attention to the subtle feelings in the body during these experiences and let yourself happen, observing but not engaging the mind, you see that they also show you how to do it with just your own body's chemical laboratory and incorporating the breath. For most, these experiences are so far away from their usual state of vibration, that the memories are like fading dreams. But when you choose to work your way up and increase your frequency (and magnetic potential), they begin to stick; and you begin to move into a more harmonious way of being. To walk with the knowingness of death is the only way to truly live. Death is but an illusion, one made to seem like something it isn't to keep people afraid of really waking up. -Love and Light- |
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