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WarriorServant 12-11-2009 12:24 PM

Be careful not to be gullible.
 
Plain and simple: Humans are about as gullible as you can imagine. Very few people have a logical thinking discerning mind. You know why? Because the majority of people are lazy and couldn't care less about anything that's not happening in their own little bubble. All people care about is feeling warm and fuzzy, and will WILLINGLY self delude themselves on a daily basis for the "fix".

So when something comes along that requires thought, "developed" intuition, rational thinking, educated decisions or discernment, most people immediately jump to "paranormal". Oh it's aliens, witches, ghosts, chupacabras, demons, Mary.. *deep breath*.. there's ALWAYS a paranormal explanation. It's "NEVER" explainable -- and that makes for a mass delusion/hoax to be ripe. Don't make me compile a list of proof for how gullible and simple minded people are, because I can -- and it will be 50 pages long.

However, that 50 pages might consist of "Global Warming", " New Age Movement", "Government" or ... drum roll please.. "ROCKETS"!

Yes, yes, I know. No one "here" is gullible. Of course. So lets assume (for argument sake) that I am talking about everyone else (that isn't actually reading this).

Let me tell you something. There are going to be a lot of "signs" in the sky; imminently. The vast majority of people are going to be running around saying: "It's aliens it's aliens!". But I am here today to tell you, it's NOT aliens. Whether aliens exist or not (and what they actually are) is "ANOTHER" matter which wouldn't be heard "here" anyway. But it is going to be SO easy to dupe this populace of this planet, and it is COMING! There are going to be things showing up "all over the earth".

Are you going to be on your knees, looking up in the sky, crying, saying: "Oh they've come to save us, they've come to save uuuus" with a quivering bottom lip? Of course not? ... but really, will you? Because from what I see of humanity (and the same old story is being reverbirated on THIS forum of so called "truth seekers"), and believe me -- I look, that's EXACTLY what's coming!

People today think they're so modern, all because they have Ipods, cable TV and X-Boxes. But just because these things are invented, does that make the user any more "savvy" or "smarter" than someone who lived 200 years ago? I say a big "NO!". What I say is that people have actually become immensely and demonstrably MORE gullible in modern times. I put it forward that the people of 200 years ago were much more intuitive, brighter, more switched on, more aware and plain out more intelligent in almost ALL respects.

This is a wake up call. It's not sugar coated. This post isn't designed to "win friends and influence people". All I want you to do is look in the mirror tonight and say: "What do I really know?", "Am I susceptible to being utterly duped?", "Is my deep and ingrained wish for something more going to cause me to fall to my knees to the first mass experience that can't be explained?".

Sadly, I think most people on this forum (and those in the "Disclosure" movement) are not only going to have the wool pulled over their eyes, but scores of people, all over the globe are about to reach a delusion of such massive proportion, that it's going to be the end of humanity as we know it.

It's written all over the wall. In my genuine, sincere and watchful opinion - what I see here is 95% of people peeing in each others pockets. I don't say that because I just like causing trouble. I SINCERELY mean it. If you don't agree with me, feel free to respond. My aim isn't to be insulting (although I do acknowledge that this post WILL be taken as such by many) -- I just want to give everyone a kick in the pants and say: SNAP OUT OF IT!

:wall:

greybeard 12-11-2009 12:36 PM

Re: Be careful not to be gullible.
 
Dear Warrior Servant
I appreciate your frustration.
However this is a whistle blowers etc site so it is as it is.
I have posted on your New Age poll thread.

Regards Chris

WarriorServant 12-11-2009 12:42 PM

Re: Be careful not to be gullible.
 
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Originally Posted by greybeard (Post 197480)
Dear Warrior Servant
I appreciate your frustration.
However this is a whistle blowers etc site so it is as it is.
I have posted on your New Age poll thread.
Regards Chris

I am perfectly aware that this is a whistle blowers site. I am also perfectly aware that there's so many lies, they FAR outweigh and confuse ANY chance of enlightenment through knowledge and wisdom.

I want people to be more skeptical. I look around here and I just feel shattered. There's SO many important things that are utterly missed. There's NO POSSIBLE WAY I could convey what I know to a forum such as this.

I have tried to share various information with various people for YEARS, and NONE OF IT reaches the light of day. The PRIMARY reason for that is because everyone's too busy peeing in each others pockets. That's the truth.

Let me say it bluntly: FEW people here, or in movements such as whistle blowing or disclosure sincerely want "TRUTH". They want "excitement". That's all most people are after: EXCITEMENT! Fact!

Second to excitement is: "A pat on the back". An: "Oh you're wonderful. You're so smart". What I see is a heap of people that wouldn't know shyte from clay. I don't have anything against simple people, but simple know-all's (spreading lies and stories).. that's another story..

edit ie: Greer is the biggest liar in the whole movement. Fact!

lindabaker 12-11-2009 12:52 PM

Re: Be careful not to be gullible.
 
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Originally Posted by WarriorServant (Post 197471)

Sadly, I think most people on this forum (and those in the "Disclosure" movement) are not only going to have the wool pulled over their eyes, but scores of people, all over the globe are about to reach a delusion of such massive proportion, that it's going to be the end of humanity as we know it. :wall:

Sincerely, if it's going to be the end of humanity, why are you bothering?

LucidJia 12-11-2009 12:55 PM

Re: Be careful not to be gullible.
 
Can you give us a taste of the real truth we are all so blind to see?

WarriorServant 12-11-2009 12:55 PM

Re: Be careful not to be gullible.
 
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Originally Posted by lindabaker (Post 197485)
Sincerely, if it's going to be the end of humanity, why are you bothering?

See, why doesn't anyone EVER get my point? Do I really have to answer that? Can't you just think for a few minutes?

lindabaker 12-11-2009 12:57 PM

Re: Be careful not to be gullible.
 
Rhetorical question my dear

WarriorServant 12-11-2009 12:57 PM

Re: Be careful not to be gullible.
 
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Originally Posted by LucidJia (Post 197490)
Can you give us a taste of the real truth we are all so blind to see?

Not to sarcasm I wont.

But let me say this. If you see storms (particularly those with twisters, ie: tornados) and if you see high winds, and massive storm fronts -- FULL with lights, TIP: It's NOT "aliens".

Watch the news..

LucidJia 12-11-2009 01:07 PM

Re: Be careful not to be gullible.
 
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Originally Posted by WarriorServant (Post 197493)
Not to sarcasm I wont.

But let me say this. If you see storms (particularly those with twisters, ie: tornados) and if you see high winds, and massive storm fronts -- FULL with lights, TIP: It's NOT "aliens".

Watch the news..

Let me guess...Lightning?

WarriorServant 12-11-2009 01:09 PM

Re: Be careful not to be gullible.
 
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Originally Posted by LucidJia (Post 197499)
Let me guess...Lightning?

No, I am not referring to lightning.

LucidJia 12-11-2009 01:12 PM

Re: Be careful not to be gullible.
 
But seriously what is this info that we cant fathom. I am interested, are you talking about some false invasion or hype to come in the future that will catch so many "pocket pissers" of guard?

Malletzky 12-11-2009 01:16 PM

Re: Be careful not to be gullible.
 
Hey WS...these are indeed some provocative thoughts you just shared with us here :mfr_omg: :thumb_yello:

I rather wouldn't argue with you, as I highly respect your views. But I only respect them...I'm not here to agree or dissagree with you.
This is the way you see the world, the humanity and therefore the members of this forum now and that's fine for me. But...

Well, personaly, I don't care of being guillible.

How comes? It's simple: being guillible means being full of grace of charity and being full of goodness...

Having innocent thoughts means that the one is full of love and compassion...and this means you shouldn't care of being hurt or lied from these people. How about a world full of gullible people ???

If I see the good in you, you will see the good in me.

So yes, it realy isn't about making friends or enemies here...but you should consider that many here on this forum really don't need to be kicked anywhere to awaken.

If you take your time first and try to learn something about some posters here, you will notice that you can still learn something from them. Just as we could learn from you, if you would stopp kicking us to awaken and share your wisdom with us.

with respect
malletzky

WarriorServant 12-11-2009 01:19 PM

Re: Be careful not to be gullible.
 
I am well versed with many posters here.

jaby 12-11-2009 01:26 PM

Re: Be careful not to be gullible.
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by WarriorServant (Post 197471)
Let me tell you something. There are going to be a lot of "signs" in the sky; imminently. The vast majority of people are going to be running around saying: "It's aliens it's aliens!". But I am here today to tell you, it's NOT aliens. Whether aliens exist or not (and what they actually are) is "ANOTHER" matter which wouldn't be heard "here" anyway. But it is going to be SO easy to dupe this populace of this planet, and it is COMING! There are going to be things showing up "all over the earth".


Are you saying that you are an insider, with insider knowledge...or are you speculating?

We can all speculate.


Quote:

This is a wake up call. It's not sugar coated. This post isn't designed to "win friends and influence people". All I want you to do is look in the mirror tonight and say: "What do I really know?", "Am I susceptible to being utterly duped?", "Is my deep and ingrained wish for something more going to cause me to fall to my knees to the first mass experience that can't be explained?".

LOL.....so this is the bitter pill, eh...?

With all the disinformation circulating it's hard to know who to believe and who to trust...but we can only do our best and try to think critically about the 'big-picture'...also tap into our intuition.

For example....your sentiments might be genuine. You might 'know something' and be trying to warn people...albeit in an arrogant and annoying way.

Or YOU might be contributing to the ocean of disinformation.

These are the kinds of things we have to consider.........:tongue2:

Steve_A 12-11-2009 01:27 PM

Re: Be careful not to be gullible.
 
Hi WarriorServant,

I tend to agree with you in most apects. I think when the people, as the majority do, throw themselves into life, keeping their head down, concentrating on the mortgage and car payments, it is so easy for them to slip into a very mundane, ignorant lifestyle.

Times gone by, great people were known for their acts, like crossing the Arctic Circle or climbing Everset of navigating to find a new world. These days, the people tend to sit on the couch and give value to those who wear stylish clothes and have the latest cellphone.

I also understand the necessity, concious or not, of people needing to escape from time to time from this lifestyle they live.

I tend to give my opinions drawn from personal experience. I left home at 17 and left the UK at 22 years of age. I travelled all around Europe for 12 years and decided, on the toss of a coin, to come to Brazil, where I've been for the last 16 years or so.

My life has been a little more detailed than just a simple timeplan, and when I explain to people what I've been doing all my life, the general comment has been, "Oh, I wish I could do that". But why don't they? What is to stop them? Conditioning - I remember my mother telling me when I was 19 years old to cut my hair, go back home, get married and buy a house (of course I didn't).

I think there are many who prey on these conditioned people for financial gain, with Ponzi schemes, selling lies, hey, even in the UFO field.

I was interested in a lecture which was given in the UK last month about the UK becoming a police state. It appears that it already has. Why? Well because it could.

In this lecture the guy was taliking about CCTV cameras in the UK. It appears now that there is 1 camera per 14 people in the UK. Does the CCTV prevent crime? Well considering that the only 2% of UK citizens have a criminal record, I suppose there wouldn't be that much need. So the government is setting it's infrastructure for the NWO in the UK and, as peace loving, calm, non criminal people the British are, they allow it.

The government here in the Northeast of Brazil has tried to set up speed cameras, but most of them have been stolen! Imagine in the streets!!

What I'm trying to get at here is that the more complacent societies seem to be the first that will be totally controlled, as there is less opposition and of course less controlling to be done by the authorities (a good training period).

Finally, I totally agree with your 'looking in the mirror' angle. I did this many years ago, before I left the uK - perhaps that was the catalyst for me to get moving - and it does actually work, as I know who I am! It made me keep my eyes and ears more open and become more logical without taking away too much of my personality.

Best regards,

Steve




Quote:

Originally Posted by WarriorServant (Post 197471)
Plain and simple: Humans are about as gullible as you can imagine. Very few people have a logical thinking discerning mind. You know why? Because the majority of people are lazy and couldn't care less about anything that's not happening in their own little bubble. All people care about is feeling warm and fuzzy, and will WILLINGLY self delude themselves on a daily basis for the "fix".


burgundia 12-11-2009 01:29 PM

Re: Be careful not to be gullible.
 
So you are just another one who came here to preach..why don't you stand somewhere on the corner and share your views with ordinary people. It would be an act of courage and you would do something good for humanity. The people out there need more guidance...and do not say that I am sarcastic, maybe a bit ironic here...

WarriorServant 12-11-2009 01:52 PM

Re: Be careful not to be gullible.
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Steve_A (Post 197512)
I tend to agree with you in most apects. I think when the people, as the majority do, throw themselves into life, keeping their head down, concentrating on the mortgage and car payments, it is so easy for them to slip into a very mundane, ignorant lifestyle.

It's just sad.

Quote:

Originally Posted by Steve_A (Post 197512)
Times gone by, great people were known for their acts, like crossing the Arctic Circle or climbing Everset of navigating to find a new world. These days, the people tend to sit on the couch and give value to those who wear stylish clothes and have the latest cellphone.

Exactly.

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Originally Posted by Steve_A (Post 197512)
I also understand the necessity, concious or not, of people needing to escape from time to time from this lifestyle they live.

I tend to give my opinions drawn from personal experience. I left home at 17 and left the UK at 22 years of age. I travelled all around Europe for 12 years and decided, on the toss of a coin, to come to Brazil, where I've been for the last 16 years or so.

My life has been a little more detailed than just a simple timeplan, and when I explain to people what I've been doing all my life, the general comment has been, "Oh, I wish I could do that". But why don't they? What is to stop them? Conditioning - I remember my mother telling me when I was 19 years old to cut my hair, go back home, get married and buy a house (of course I didn't).

That just means that from an early age, you couldn't be contained and indoctrinated. That's a good thing. Few people have escaped the world indoctrination program.

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Originally Posted by Steve_A (Post 197512)
I think there are many who prey on these conditioned people for financial gain, with Ponzi schemes, selling lies, hey, even in the UFO field.

This is what irritates me.

Quote:

Originally Posted by Steve_A (Post 197512)
I was interested in a lecture which was given in the UK last month about the UK becoming a police state. It appears that it already has. Why? Well because it could.

The whole world is becoming a police state. Many places are already totally under control and dominated. The infrastructure, policies, treaties and indoctrination, is in place. All we need now is one catalyst, and the poor ignorant sad people of this world aren't going to know what hit them. This is just around the corner. Most people know (generally) things aren't quite right, and most people know that governments are shady and crooks -- but really, the world has absolutely NO idea just how bad the evil is and how much destruction and grief it is about to cause.

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Originally Posted by Steve_A (Post 197512)
In this lecture the guy was taliking about CCTV cameras in the UK. It appears now that there is 1 camera per 14 people in the UK. Does the CCTV prevent crime? Well considering that the only 2% of UK citizens have a criminal record, I suppose there wouldn't be that much need. So the government is setting it's infrastructure for the NWO in the UK and, as peace loving, calm, non criminal people the British are, they allow it.

This plan has been running on a global scale for decades now. Cameras are to set a precedent. Very soon it will become the norm that no one should expect privacy of any kind. The entire world will be under surveillance. Between cameras, tracking devices and microchip identification, there will not be a person on earth that the government doesn't know the whereabouts and history of. This is actually true "today" to a major extent, but it will get worse. Unimaginably worse.

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Originally Posted by Steve_A (Post 197512)
The government here in the Northeast of Brazil has tried to set up speed cameras, but most of them have been stolen! Imagine in the streets!!

I'd like to see that in all countries.

Quote:

Originally Posted by Steve_A (Post 197512)
What I'm trying to get at here is that the more complacent societies seem to be the first that will be totally controlled, as there is less opposition and of course less controlling to be done by the authorities (a good training period).

Couldn't agree more.

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Originally Posted by Steve_A (Post 197512)
Finally, I totally agree with your 'looking in the mirror' angle. I did this many years ago, before I left the uK - perhaps that was the catalyst for me to get moving - and it does actually work, as I know who I am! It made me keep my eyes and ears more open and become more logical without taking away too much of my personality.

You know what? People don't like to be told to look in the mirror. People don't like to be told anything that they don't like. It doesn't necessarily matter whether something matches someone's "beliefs". Very soon, the foul mouthed, ignorant, "I wont be told" populace is going to have a big shock when the time comes (overnight) where they are treated as if they should feel lucky to be even "breathing". If I didn't love the people of the world so much, I could almost say it's fitting. But the problems and delusion that is at the door now is so horrible, I wouldn't wish it on a cockroach.

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Originally Posted by burgundia (Post 197513)
So you are just another one who came here to preach..why don't you stand somewhere on the corner and share your views with ordinary people. It would be an act of courage and you would do something good for humanity. The people out there need more guidance...and do not say that I am sarcastic, maybe a bit ironic here...

I am uninterested in your rhetoric.

greybeard 12-11-2009 01:56 PM

Re: Be careful not to be gullible.
 
There is a big difference between being open minded and gulible.
For example.
Crop circles are a fact.
Lots of theories but I dont profess to know the why and wherfore of them.
So yes I agree there is a lot of asumptions flying around but whats true-- you tell me.
Chris

WarriorServant 12-11-2009 02:00 PM

Re: Be careful not to be gullible.
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by greybeard (Post 197533)
There is a big difference between being open minded and gulible.
For example.
Crop circles are a fact.
Lots of theories but I dont profess to know the why and wherfore of them.
So yes I agree there is a lot of asumptions flying around but whats true-- you tell me.
Chris

Crop circles are a fact, yes.

Are they made by people with sticks and strings? Wait for me to finish laughing and I'll give you an answer.. no.

However, let me put this to you. Crop circles have become more intricate as technology has progressed. Look at the early crop circles. Then, look at the ones today.

Let me put it to you that if it were "aliens" -- then those aliens had VERY bad technology only decades ago. Think..

jaby 12-11-2009 02:01 PM

Re: Be careful not to be gullible.
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by WarriorServant (Post 197530)
It's just sad.
You know what? People don't like to be told to look in the mirror.

Can you please go look in the mirror. Do you see a sheep or a wolf?

Or do you see a warrior or a servant?



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If I didn't love the people of the world so much, I could almost say it's fitting. But the problems and delusion that is at the door now is so horrible, I wouldn't wish it on a cockroach.
Yeah...your love for the people of the world shines from your posts. (sarcasm)


:original:

burgundia 12-11-2009 02:07 PM

Re: Be careful not to be gullible.
 
people wake up! he is drawing all your attention creating post after post like a machine...demanding constant focus on what he writes....

WarriorServant 12-11-2009 02:09 PM

Re: Be careful not to be gullible.
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by jaby (Post 197537)
Can you please go look in the mirror. Do you see a sheep or a wolf?
Or do you see a warrior or a servant?
Yeah...your love for the people of the world shines from your posts. (sarcasm)
:original:

Sarcasm. Yes.. does this mean I now have a personal stalker that follows me around on the forum to mock every thread?

But to answer your question (not that you deserve one).

I see a sheep.

I see both a servant and a warrior.

I do love the people of this earth, but that doesn't mean I have to pander to ignorance.

WarriorServant 12-11-2009 02:11 PM

Re: Be careful not to be gullible.
 
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Originally Posted by burgundia (Post 197541)
people wake up! he is drawing all your attention creating post after post like a machine...demanding constant focus on what he writes....

I am an intelligent person that can read and type fast.

Please don't despise me for it.

jaby 12-11-2009 02:16 PM

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Originally Posted by WarriorServant (Post 197542)
Sarcasm. Yes.. does this mean I now have a personal stalker that follows me around on the forum to mock every thread?

LOL...I think you're being a tad melodramatic.

Your posts are very confrontational.

You have to be prepared to be addressed in the same manner.

I don't think you would want anyone to sugar-coat their replies...would you?

WarriorServant 12-11-2009 02:19 PM

Re: Be careful not to be gullible.
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by jaby (Post 197548)
LOL...I think you're being a tad melodramatic.

Your posts are very confrontational.

You have to be prepared to be addressed in the same manner.

I don't think you would want anyone to sugar-coat their replies...would you?

All I expect is intelligence.

I don't expect to be called sir.

I don't demand that anyone like me or what I say.

I want SERIOUS dialog. Not fluffy, sugar coted bedtime stories.

If I can't get it without ^above^ I'll happily move along.

ie: Everything from here to "this post" could easily be deleted. It's useless conversation and I am not going to sit here begging for people to be serious all day. I'm already getting tired of it.

Jnana 12-11-2009 02:23 PM

Re: Be careful not to be gullible.
 
I think many if not most here are well aware of the plans for tyranny. If you have more detailed information on methods and time frames, by all means share what you know.

Quite often videos are posted here about some plan or another to set up road blocks and start forcing people to wear RFID wrist bands or some such thing, a date is given, people get all worked up, and then nothing happens. There are various ways to view such videos, but one would be to make it seem that the danger you are warning of is not real (invoking the "cry wolf" paradigm). I think the danger is quite real and would appreciate any special insight you might have.

As for leaning towards "paranormal" explanations, once you have experienced "paranormal" phenomena first hand, and many here have, it opens up your view of what is possible. In a way, it makes it much harder to interpret peculiar phenomena because you KNOW it could quite possibly be something out of the range of normal experience. This is not quite the same as being gullible, but it certainly behooves us all to hone our powers of discernment. When something big and strange happens that everyone wants to believe is the start of something big, it makes it that much harder. As you have no doubt observed, we are primed and ready to go here - big changes are desired. Tyranny is not one of them, but it may be a stage we have to pass through to really wake up the world. It would be much better if it could be done another way.

Sarahmay 12-11-2009 02:24 PM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by WarriorServant (Post 197550)
All I expect is intelligence.

I don't expect to be called sir.

I don't demand that anyone like me or what I say.

I want SERIOUS dialog. Not fluffy, sugar coted bedtime stories.

If I can't get it without ^above^ I'll happily move along.

ie: Everything from here to "this post" could easily be deleted. It's useless conversation and I am not going to sit here begging for people to be serious all day. I'm already getting tired of it.

I humbly suggest that perhaps this is not the forum for you.

WarriorServant 12-11-2009 02:25 PM

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Originally Posted by Sarahmay (Post 197556)
I humbly suggest that perhaps this is not the forum for you.


I humbly suggest that you keep your opinions of what is right for me to yourself.

jaby 12-11-2009 02:30 PM

Re: Be careful not to be gullible.
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by WarriorServant (Post 197483)
edit ie: Greer is the biggest liar in the whole movement. Fact!


Ok...you say this is a fact. What evidence do you have to back up this sweeping statement?

This thread is about being careful not to be gullible.

So we must put a statement like this to the test...because divide and rule is the oldest trick in the book. Don't you agree?

It would be gullible to just take what you say as truth.

And THAT'S a fact.

WarriorServant 12-11-2009 02:32 PM

Re: Be careful not to be gullible.
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Jnana (Post 197555)
I think many if not most here are well aware of the plans for tyranny. If you have more detailed information on methods and time frames, by all means share what you know.

Yes, this is true - but the problem is that very few people know the source of the problem or how to defend themselves from it. Running around with shotguns and burying boxes of food isn't going to help.

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Originally Posted by Jnana (Post 197555)
Quite often videos are posted here about some plan or another to set up road blocks and start forcing people to wear RFID wrist bands or some such thing, a date is given, people get all worked up, and then nothing happens. There are various ways to view such videos, but one would be to make it seem that the danger you are warning of is not real (invoking the "cry wolf" paradigm). I think the danger is quite real and would appreciate any special insight you might have.

This is true. People cry wold all day every day. You know why? Because the vast majority of people want to be "right". The vast majority of people want to be the next person that can VALIDLY say: "See! See! I told you! (somersault) I told you! I told you! It happened! What I said happened! Hahaha! It happened!"

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Originally Posted by Jnana (Post 197555)
As for leaning towards "paranormal" explanations, once you have experienced "paranormal" phenomena first hand, and many here have, it opens up your view of what is possible.

I am one such person.

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Originally Posted by Jnana (Post 197555)
In a way, it makes it much harder to interpret peculiar phenomena because you KNOW it could quite possibly be something out of the range of normal experience.

I understand and agree -- which is WHY those who are aware that there is more to physical reality need to be VERY careful about what they accept, where they get their information and whether or not that information is TRUE!

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Originally Posted by Jnana (Post 197555)
This is not quite the same as being gullible, but it certainly behooves us all to hone our powers of discernment. When something big and strange happens that everyone wants to believe is the start of something big, it makes it that much harder.

The problem is, that most people really have little or no discernment, because they believe they can get it all sorted for themselves, or channel so called "friends" (which DO exist by the way - but they are NOT to be listened to).

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Originally Posted by Jnana (Post 197555)
As you have no doubt observed, we are primed and ready to go here - big changes are desired. Tyranny is not one of them, but it may be a stage we have to pass through to really wake up the world. It would be much better if it could be done another way.

Yes, I know big changes are desired -- and that is the exact sentiment that will be the detriment of most.

WarriorServant 12-11-2009 02:33 PM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by jaby (Post 197560)
Ok...you say this is a fact. What evidence do you have to back up this sweeping statement?

This thread is about being careful not to be gullible.

So we must put a statement like this to the test...because divide and rule is the oldest trick in the book. Don't you agree?

It would be gullible to just take what you say as truth.

And THAT'S a fact.

I have no means to prove such a statement to you.

So what I ask is that you keep it in mind.

Steven 12-11-2009 02:36 PM

Re: Be careful not to be gullible.
 
Hello Warrior. Thank you for your thread. We have people who needs to touch, see and taste before they will believe anything and there are people ready to believe anything that makes sens.

One of the issue with gullible people is that they have no reference. Their perspective is different at each analyze. They do not analyze under the light of a verified and true reference point. There is no anchor anywhere in their point of view, so it is easy to accept a false idea right away.

Perspective is often more important than information itself and this is where I see most people are having issue with when we see fringe information being interpreted as fantasy or the opposite...

Namaste, Steven

Jnana 12-11-2009 02:36 PM

Re: Be careful not to be gullible.
 
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Yes, this is true - but the problem is that very few people know the source of the problem or how to defend themselves from it. Running around with shotguns and burying boxes of food isn't going to help.
Okay, so what WILL help? What is the source of the problem and how should people prepare to defend themselves from it?

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There's NO POSSIBLE WAY I could convey what I know to a forum such as this.
Why?

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Greer is the biggest liar in the whole movement. Fact!
I disagree. Please explain how you came to this conclusion.

whitefluffy 12-11-2009 03:01 PM

Re: Be careful not to be gullible.
 
dear servantwarrior,
you sound very angry at the world. hard not to be i agree. if people would be deceived, well then theres not much either you or anyone else can do about it. if you think about it theres not much anyone can prove or make real for anyone else unless they believe it to be so.
this forum is a place for people with similar interests to express opinions and ask questions, which you are doing with gusto, just try not to be too aggressive or youll end up with a big headache from all that headbanging.
take care,
p.s. simple answer to everything
god is love:wub2:

Stargazer1965 12-11-2009 03:03 PM

Re: Be careful not to be gullible.
 
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Originally Posted by Steven (Post 197563)
Hello Warrior. Thank you for your thread. We have people who needs to touch, see and taste before they will believe anything and there are people ready to believe anything that makes sens.

One of the issue with gullible people is that they have no reference. Their perspective is different at each analyze. They do not analyze under the light of a verified and true reference point. There is no anchor anywhere in their point of view, so it is easy to accept a false idea right away.

Perspective is often more important than information itself and this is where I see most people are having issue with when we see fringe information being interpreted as fantasy or the opposite...

Namaste, Steven

Great post Steven...good thread WS...

I suffer as you do.....but what can I do...Shake someone till they wake up or their neck snaps....:original:

Out in the "real" world ...intelligence ain't the IN thing.

The lower your IQ seems to be ...the more cool you are.

We elect officials that "look" the part and speak the speak ...and they don't have a brain in their head.

We don't elect the greatest teachers of justice and law...the truly "smart" folks.

If they speak out ...the PTBs silence them and they live in a shack in the ghetto if they aren't sleeping with the fishes.

Someone slipped us into a rigged poker game....the brilliant thought of a perceived freedom tyranny

The bars you can't see make a great prison.

The only tech they truly have given us make us work harder for THEM and entertain us when we are waiting to serve them again.

Sitting in the corner with a shiny rock waiting for master to scream for " MORE WINE dog!!!!

I played in the game then someone whispered in my ear...Dude it's fixed...get out!!!

Then I became a "sleep walker" still asleep but up moving around looking like I'm not asleep.

A lot of folks in here suffer sleep walking...awake but wandering aimless.

Now...not being an abductee...never seen an alien...bigfoot....nessie....can't project myself astrally....can't meditate....not a brilliant mind of our time.

Just flying by my pants from an internal compass and no point of reference on the horizon.

But through all that....I feel like I'm growing

Everything that I feel or believe might be wrong...but I'm still growing

What I perceive as reality becomes MY reality...a little womb to grow

Peace all

Sarahmay 12-11-2009 03:07 PM

Re: Be careful not to be gullible.
 
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Originally Posted by WarriorServant (Post 197557)
I humbly suggest that you keep your opinions of what is right for me to yourself.

Ditto, dude (since you suggested to me my life was in imminent danger on another thread). Yikes, you open up the forum and this is what you get...

BROOK 12-11-2009 03:16 PM

Re: Be careful not to be gullible.
 
Now that the flood gate had been opened, the trolls are among us. Serving to distract.

So I have to ask, as you are so informed of the content of this forum. What is it you believe in? All I have seen it what you do not believe in. And what is your true purpose here?

There are many talented light workers here, and intuitives. As well as insiders. You have more or less called us all quacks. Delusional people...waiting for the rug to get pulled out from under us.
The Admin Gareth closed your first thread, as it was insulting. Now you have come straight out and done the deed. So pre tell ...all of the years of abduction experience that some of us have had here. And you now come out and tell us it's all a delusion?

As this forum is for the purpose of disclosure...what do you have to disclose? What great words of wisdom do you plan to share here?
Because all I'm seeing here is a troll, who want to get some attention.
Correct me if that is not the case....but tell us what you have to share. And stop telling those of us that have been through the ringer with some of this stuff that we are delusional...as I wish that was only the case!

Stargazer1965 12-11-2009 03:21 PM

Re: Be careful not to be gullible.
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by BROOK (Post 197583)
Now that the flood gate had been opened, the trolls are among us. Serving to distract.

So I have to ask, as you are so informed of the content of this forum. What is it you believe in? All I have seen it what you do not believe in. And what is your true purpose here?

There are many talented light workers here, and intuitives. As well as insiders. You have more or less called us all quacks. Delusional people...waiting for the rug to get pulled out from under us.
The Admin Gareth closed your first thread, as it was insulting. Now you have come straight out and done the deed. So pre tell ...all of the years of abduction experience that some of us have had here. And you now come out and tell us it's all a delusion?

As this forum is for the purpose of disclosure...what do you have to disclose? What great words of wisdom do you plan to share here?
Because all I'm seeing here is a troll, who want to get some attention.
Correct me if that is not the case....but tell us what you have to share. And stop telling those of us that have been through the ringer with some of this stuff that we are delusional...as I wish that was only the case!

Okay WS...Brook calls your hand...Are you ALL IN???

Majorion 12-11-2009 03:26 PM

Re: Be careful not to be gullible.
 
WarriorServant, to be honest you come off as a guy/gal whose really either trying to debunk something very specific (in which case, my question, what is it exactly?), or you're so overtly skeptical to the point you feel others here are in deep need of being pushed in that same direction. Am I correct in assuming this is your stance?

BROOK 12-11-2009 03:29 PM

Re: Be careful not to be gullible.
 
As I have read your words so far, and have read the energy of them...I already have my answer.

Oh yeah...another delusion..reading energy...hahaha :lmfao:

we are all quack now aren't we? DOH :mfr_omg:


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