Pole Shift - Yes or No?
 

There have been a number of sources that point towards an inevitable pole shift, while others say that we can prevent that from happening.

What do you think? Will there be a pole shift on or around December 21, 2012?

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I think this is a great thread and I can't wait to hear from those who have info about keeping this from happening!!

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It's happened many times before, here's an article with all the info!

Alternation of the Earth's magnetic polarity. The Earth's internal magnetic field reverses, on average, about every 300,000 to 1 million years. This reversal is very sudden on a geologic time scale, apparently taking about 5,000 years. The time between reversals is highly variable, sometimes less than 40,000 years and at other times as long as 35 million years. No regularities or periodicities have yet been discovered. A long interval of one polarity may be followed by a short interval of opposite polarity

http://www.answers.com/topic/geomagnetic-reversal

I don't think anything can be done about it, it's a natural thing that's always been going on, and we've survived it before!
The sun also swithes poles all the time, in fact every 7 to 15 years.

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I have heard a distinction made between a magnetic pole shift, and a geographic pole shift. I have heard that the geographic pole shift takes place within a matter of hours or days once it begins...

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Thanks, Dan. I've also seen plenty of evidence to support the inevitability of such an event, but there are some that say we can change it this time. I personally doubt it's an avoidable occurence, especially with all of the volcano and earthquake activity we've been seeing lately. Precursors, no?

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The kind where the north and south poles switch.

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If you're talking about a continental pole shift, here's an article................
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pole_shift_hypothesis

Here's another one, there seems to be a whole lot of theories out there on continental pole shift....... http://www.crystalinks.com/poleshifts.html

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Pole shift coupled with a new mini ice age is my vote.

I began to suspect some thing when Global warming became 'Climate Change'.

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And then this is where it gets even more complicated. At the time of the 'shift', will those prepared for the shift into 4th or even 5th density even have to worry about things like food, water, shelter, and . . . uh, big furry coats? Or will that be the dilema for people still attached to 3d?

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According to Hapgood (FWIW). most pole shifts are in the nature of 30 degrees. (which may well be why we see the seed vault at over 60 degrees)
alys

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Well I just tied it up! I for one think there is an 80% chance it will happen. And as to the people who say it can be avoided, stopped, etc, they are insane. Unless that have some secret device which can control the magnetic field and/or core of the planet as a whole.

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Lorien - while I agree that there is compelling evidence that proves it has not only happened before, and signs that indicate it will likely happen again, I also recognize that we vastly underestimate our own power.
"There are more things in heaven and earth, Horatio,
Than are dreamt of in your philosophy."

There are more than a few people who would call me insane because I believe that we're going to jump dimensions in the not-too-distant future. Or because I believe our governments are poisoning us, or because I believe that alien civilizations are here, within the earth,.... The list goes on....

I guess what I'm trying to say is that nothing is really absolute. The only truth that's valid is the one that exists right now. The rest is transient and speculative. I'm just really curious as to what the actual split is in this forum. So far, it's surprisingly even.

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Oh I know exactly what your saying recallone. If I had a quarter for every time someone called me a crazy conspiracy theorist I'd be rich :lol3:

And your right, nothing is finite. Who knows, maybe if we as a civilization can expand our awareness fast enough and learn to focus our energies and harmonize with the planet, we can in fact ask our mother earth to stop such a destructive episode.

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yes - the 13th yes LOL

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You never really know. If our government secretly has technology that is a thousand times, possibly more advanced that what we've seen, then the sky is no longer the limit.

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I think yes. First half of 2011. By 3 - 30 degrees.

Get prepared.





If it doesnt happen thats awesome! I will be soooo happy to be wrong. But I am leaving the city in a few weeks. And starting to make my preparations which should be fully in place by the end of next year 2010.

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Is this enough to cause a tsunami?

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Yes, there will be "Rock'N'Roll" if that happens. Epic.

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I love it when members don't "beat around the bush"!

Now, can consciousness mitigate this in any way, shape, or form?

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YES , I do believe that we are in for some major earth changes in the near future ,whether that be "pole shift", or "CME" or "galactic energy wave" or whatever. Pole shift & CMEs etc,,,,are naturally occuring and are part of the larger cycles. Yeah I believe everything moves in cycles. I also believe in "hope for the best but prepare for the worse" Aside from that...the BEST thing we can do is to not live in fear but to look to the love in your heart and the love that is within all of us. To live from within. Teach our kids to do the same.

Love to all

Shred

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What is a CME?

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A Corona Mass Ejection, I think: sure I'll be corrected if wrong :original:
Don't think this would be good for us :nono::nono:

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Thats a good question , So..your saying that IF enough people were to consciously think positively ,,think of love, think of all that is good instead of living & perpetuating fear, can this be avoided ?

I dont know.

Ive been doing a lot of reading on the mayan calender, more importantly the evolution of consciousness , And that the energy that you put out bad or good (happy , sad , love whatever), others feel & receive this..whether they know it or not. THis feels true to me. Ive seen it happen & Ive had it happen to me. I have hard time verbalizing this. This video explains it better than I.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mDN6ZcZ0y9I


Love to all
Shred

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Its possible I guess but extremely unlikely in our case.

I don't have the answers, but I heed the warnings and signs.

We will have to cross what I perceive as the 'danger zone' dec 2010 - mar 2013 together.

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Okay.

Let's put aside the unlikeliness temporarily.

If this were to happen, how would it work? What is the (alternative) science?

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I think from everything I had read and what we are seeing now, we are in the progressive shift right now with 2012 being the peak and progression on the down side in 2013. Remember the indigo child on camelot, Boriska said he remembers 09 and 011 being very bad years on earth.

Saint Catherine who is channeled predicted the Italy earthquake specifically in the mountains of Italy about 3-4 months ago. She says it is very important to keep the light within on a positive course.

I watched that video interview with David Icke on Camelot last week. And I always remembered the one interview where Bill Ryan had asked the question to and the response he got was that " Some high navy officer when he was dying said that if we as human beings only knew the power we have within , the entire game would be over for the bad guys".

My girlfriend said to me we will be O.K. , but that some people will not make it thru the shift. I asked her what about her immediate family, she says it with the most calm trust in god, that some are just not meant to go physically. That just blows me away when she says that.

May I suggest watching the Boriska interview and the David Icke. There is much positive on both .

My opinion though is we are definately in the shift now marching towards a date that may not be so entertaining, but the days, months and years ahead to that date will be challanging . It's nothing to fear, only understand , pray, and help as many as may be needed during the march. If your feeling dizzy on a mild basis once and a while, ringing in your ears, popping of your ears, feeling stange once and a while, I'm not a doctor, but this is some of the things I have been feeling , out of the ordinary, I believe that is the progression we are in now. Anybody else feeling like that???

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Do not try to avoid the day after the night. These are natural cycles and the best we can do is help Gaia so the transition can happen according to plan. Don't think in terms 'let's avoid the geophysical changes, avoid this or avoid that'. Only think in helping Gaia unblock its energy flows.. whatever happens next is for the greater good.. I have full confidence in Gaia that those that are meant to be spared will be spared.. no matter what happens.

A remarkable thing happened to me just yesterday. Maybe its just a coincidence.. or maybe not.. maybe I was guided to participate into this energy reconfiguration going on right now in this region.

http://www.macedonium.org/userfiles/...vodopadi01.jpg

I had an urge to go yesterday to a mountain nearby my village (Macedonia) on a known tectonic waterfall and meditate there for 30 minutes in front of the waterfall feeling the water and wind caused by it sprinkling on my face and body.. until I connected to the energies of the earth (I've never tried this before with any natural landmarks which makes the coincidence even greater). I tried spinning up a vortex of energy into it by using some sacred geometries and removing any blockages by making the energy flow through the vortex and near the end I think something did happen to that effect and could feel a pressure of energy from it on my third eye area that I didn't feel before this. I thought to myself that a natural sign from earth would appear in the next 24 hours in case something really did happen..

The same night, few hours later, there was the earthquake in Italy in L'Aquille about which I am sure you've already heard. There are still tremors and minor quakes all over this region (Croatia and Italy of what I've read latest in the news)

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I voted no to there being a physical pole shift before the ascension in 2012. My dowsing turns up that there will be one about 3 months into 2013. There will be very few if any people still in 3rd density when this occurs. So it does not really matter.

The magnetic pole shift is already under way. However it also probably wont happen fully until after we cross the galactic equator. Everyone needs to keep in mind that the position of the movement of the solar system and the process of ascension was specifically designed to be good for us not bad. The creator would not have gotten the whole thing dialed in perfect for 26,000 year cycles just to get to the end and go, "Oops, it flipped over and killed every one".

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How about almost everyone?

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....... Interesting this ties in with what the Mayan Elders are telling us that MArch 2013 is the date we should be looking at.....

*snigger*... sorry couldn't help myself, it was very funny tone... ooops... class:roll1::roll1::roll1:

However I feel you are right on both counts...

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I look at nature and see cycles. lakes and oceans. flip every year with the seasons. bringing the bottom to the top and vis versa. the changing of the seasons. migratory patterns of animals. and things alike. the evidence is clear to me that we are indeed heading into one of these cycles. on a different scale. I don't know about all of you. but I can feel it. how and what I'm not really sure we understand. we are with no doubt crossing the galactic equator. this is also a flip. or changing of strata. I'm so entertained with the thought of it all. I cant stop thinking about it. and all that it pertains to. I say it is happing. and is part of what were all seeing with planetary changes already before us. see you on the other side.:lmao:

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There will be a pole shift if we all think it will happen. But we can change this with our collective consciousness. We, as guardians of this planet (Mother Earth) and co creators can accomplish all we want to achieve. Our Earthly Mother needs our respect and care and I believe that together we can heal her by meditation and prayer. There need not be a cataclysm unless all of us on a grand scale consciously believe it will take place. We have the power and the PTB know this, and they are using the fear of climate change to achieve a shift by collective consciousness to reduce the population. They will go into their bunkers and underground facilities whilst the shift is taking place. Be careful what you wish for!.

friendship and love
firefly

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why change nature? I think it knows best. I say meditate .. pray.. but I don't see changing mother nature cycles for us, unruly, selfish, micro fascia. as the right thing to do. I welcome it. let nature run its corse.

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if one wants to change the collective. I say do it with society and humanity. and leave natures rules alone. think thats already been worked out. my 2 cents

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i once did a water initiation with a shaman from south africia,
and, many decades ago, did one, in asia
and, i also did one on a volcanic island in hawaii
and, i also did one in mexico/and, in south america
its an amasing thing to do !!!

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I voted no only because a vote was requested of me at the ouset of this thread.

Immediate reality is all about the economy (to me) while, the life I'm living has transpired garden, spring fed pond, off grid arrangements and such. I shrug my shoulders, this is just what has come about. Would that make me safe? Dunno!!

I really don't, rather, can't care very much about what I cannot control. Sorry, but I don't think "god" is the earth (I know, I know, "god is either everything or nothing at all, right")... STILL... I read something the other day, don't ask me where it is becuase I can't remember (I'm watching and reading wayyyy too much these days)...

anyway, premise is that god is NOT the earth or nature in particular, that god IS actually a BEING (sort of like a person but at a state far superior than WE are or know that we are).... ok, I'm just spouting off this what I read, but it really tweaked my mind & this is something that I rejected loooooong ago, that god is "above", exists elsewhere at another level of existence.... but hey! when you put that in the perspective that we are all gods, ok, I'm thinking too much.

Yes, I hear tones, have for years!!! I'm grateful that I have a set of Corinthian Bell windchimes right outside the bedroom window.......and I AM amazed how that perfectly tuned instrument hones me into the NOW of things.

I much prefer that to an orchestrated "world meditation" etc... because I've learned long ago that is a cautionary (for me)..<< I do not take part in the avalon meditations... for I, as one, feel right to know that I either am resonating already or I'm not... day in day out, anyone hear that???

IF a pole shift happens, well, what has been manifesting in my life, in my surroundings where I live, all point to a positive "move" toward being able to survive best that I can...

that's all doc. (pino noir anyone?)

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so, what I forgot to say is that NO I do not think that if we all THINK together about averting something, that it will be diverted....

and I've been on this life for a loooooooooong time...

nature is not god, yet abides by laws, a creation... what a concept!!! (I hear myself also, so don't attack k?) just speculating here..it's a worthy thought ...to me.

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I agree that nature does know best.
In light of our relationship (or lack thereof) with the earth we live on, maybe a good scrubbing is what's needed. Reset button, so to speak. On a plane, as you approach a city - what does it look like in comparison with the rest of the world? Cancer, right? Rather than honoring the relationship we have to the planet, we've exploited it in ways that line the pockets of the rich and create additional mechanisms of control. So much for free will, huh? We've gone astray in embracing philosophies that divide. We fight over resources and land that none of us should have any claim to. We exploit others for financial gain. And what the hell is financial gain anyways? As a people, we put corporate gains over the sanctity of human life. We justify greed with excuses of division and who is more worthy of resources. The sickness that has infected man has been allowed to run amuck for long enough.

The prevalent vibe on this planet is not a healthy one. It's due for a scrubbing, I think. And that statement is not coming from a place of heartless contempt for humankind, but an observation of what is and an understanding that death (as defined in 3d) is illusory and doesn't deserve to be fueled by my fear, or anyone else's. I'm still wide open to the idea of a mass awakening, but I'm not overly optimistic about it. Not when I see the same attachment to stuff, religion, status, race, ad nauseam.


Huh? Not sure how this plays into the conversation.
Maybe you're more apt to survive an ocean relocating to your back yard than others because of your water initiations? :lmao: Sorry. But I don't get it.

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very well said. its unfortunate that I also se the world like this. while most my friends are still looking at the glass 1/2 full. which is nice. I do enjoy the lift in spirit.:original:

wake up!! to find out.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XK8x3NULaXE



time is short. its been quiet lately. I wonder what's about to happen.:naughty: LOL!!!