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waitinginthewings 12-21-2009 06:07 PM

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Antelatriange, PeaceandLove, 777TheGreatWork (did I get that right?) all regular great posters with quality posts.

In fairness to "all" other members though, not everyone has the ability or interest in being a "researcher" but still can contribute good, varied and interesting posts from their own life experiences, education and so on. It is these posters that add some spice to the researchers work. My gratitude goes to all the respectul posters/members both new and old who contribute to the harmony and wellbeing of this community.

Dantheman62 12-21-2009 06:46 PM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by eXchanger (Post 206293)
AND, who will THIRD IT !!! ???

:TRUMPET: :TRUMPET:



I'll third it! :original:

burgundia 12-21-2009 06:54 PM

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Originally Posted by Dantheman62 (Post 206359)
I'll third it! :original:

Can i say in English: "I'll fourth it?"...:lol3:

Anchor 12-21-2009 10:28 PM

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Originally Posted by eXchanger (Post 206237)
YUP...DOOD, is one of the golden oldies around here ;)


Golden Oldie I like it.

Yeah we know, and now I finally got around to doing something about it :)

A..

micjer 12-22-2009 12:17 AM

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My apologies Dood,

You and I have never really met. Some of us are a little paranoid on who is lurking these days.

So you are kinda like a secret santa pm'ing folks in need are you. Well that is a good thing! :thumb_yello:

Cheers!

M.

Shairia 12-22-2009 12:25 AM

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Originally Posted by Tango (Post 206233)
We are Looking for Quality Not Quantity Posts; Respectfully...


Trooly,


Tango

Okay, what exactly is a "quality" post and who decides? It seems to me that any post that is sincere/respectful to the forum community would qualify, or maybe I'm assuming too much?

THE eXchanger 12-22-2009 12:32 AM

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Originally Posted by Shairia (Post 206702)
Okay, what exactly is a "quality" post and who decides? It seems to me that any post that is sincere/respectful to the forum community would qualify, or maybe I'm assuming too much?

it looks like, you got it,
a post that is sincere and, respectful
and, like all the other ones, you have been sharing with us
have some thoughts/and, values ~ related to truth
and, that have solutions - and, soul-utions in them

Karen 12-22-2009 12:46 AM

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Originally Posted by Dood (Post 206253)
Thank you Dan...That was very kind!

Another member 'vouched' for me too last week and nothing came of it though.
This member that vouched for me is a decent person and I will withhold this persons name out of respect...

One has to take the vouching to PM, email, or skype - because if you just post it on the forum - I can barely keep up with one thread now let alone all posts. (never could keep up with all posts.)

Shairia 12-22-2009 12:50 AM

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Thank you for your reply exchanger.

What is this vouch system? This is the first I've heard of it? I know there have been many problems here but this seems like an extreme measure. How can a forum be open if you need someone to vouch for you to gain full member privaledges?

Karen 12-22-2009 01:14 AM

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Originally Posted by Shairia (Post 206720)
Thank you for your reply exchanger.

What is this vouch system? This is the first I've heard of it? I know there have been many problems here but this seems like an extreme measure. How can a forum be open if you need someone to vouch for you to gain full member privaledges?

A new "member" made it through our screening process and before we could stop them had spammed in PM to 43 people ... a full-on sex act porn video. The opening shot was a still - but we lost at least one member over that.

And that is where this new system of senior members came from ... you can thank a porn spammer for that. Now new members are limited in the number of PMs they can send, until they reach 30 days or 50 posts (or whatever it is now, as we keep refining it.)

I objected to that solution for dealing with the problem, so the number of PMs was bumped from 0 to 6 or maybe it is 15 now. Gareth knows.

Shairia 12-22-2009 01:18 AM

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Wow! I had no idea. Thank you for explaining that to me. Had anyone though about maybe an option to the PM system allowing the recipient to decide wheather to open a PM? Especially if they don't know the member sending it to them? Just a suggestion but it sounds like a more interactive solution.

Tango 12-22-2009 02:56 AM

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I like the sponsorship

14 Chakras 12-22-2009 03:02 AM

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Any idea what's up with the thread voting buttons? It seems once one person votes on them, no one else can, so they are pretty useless at this point representing one persons opinion only it appears.

Myra 12-22-2009 03:17 AM

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Originally Posted by Antaletriangle (Post 206266)
I agree Dood,it's all about equality,i feel there should be no eschelons,when these arise there are always problems somewhere down the line-surely this is what we on here are all about;levelling the playing field generally from disclosure of black,secret projects;equality an all.How can this be accomplished when in our own backyard there are priveleges to various members-time to give everyone back their equal rights.
I am not having a dig simply voicing a free view. I Hope everyone is soon able to have this luxury.
Get the place 'back on track' as was quoted earlier.
Thanks for reading.

So happy to see you are back Antaletriangle!:welcomeani:

hollylindin 12-22-2009 03:36 AM

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Originally Posted by no caste (Post 206271)
Burgundia, I am getting tired of this. Status this, status that, new, old. Has it occurred to you that it is elitist? It makes no sense.

:thumb_yello: What I thought, too, No Caste.

I think it may have more to do with when one signed up. I've been a member since August (lurking before that for about four or so months!), but I was never on a paying subscription. If they're basing it upon how long somebody has had a registration here, period, then I could see why my name would be "Senior" and mauve.

<3

Anchor 12-22-2009 10:03 AM

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We had to find a way of automatically curtailing the abuse of newly enrolled accounts. It is not about our view of a persons worth or any arbitary judgements.

A..

Dood 12-22-2009 11:37 PM

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Originally Posted by Karen (Post 206718)
One has to take the vouching to PM, email, or skype - because if you just post it on the forum - I can barely keep up with one thread now let alone all posts. (never could keep up with all posts.)

Well that member did PM another staff member. Which one I have no idea.
BTW: It was Majorian that 'vouched' for me.
I did nominate him for a Mod position here.
I think he would be a good one even though I never asked him if he was even interested in it... :tongue2:

Here is an Idea. Remember it is ONLY an idea....nothing more.
Set up a sticky for 'White Members' (hehe...lack of a better term)
That way they can speak and it would be easily seen by anyone. Especially staff. Also, other members can 'see' if someone they know is online now.
Because there is no way for a White New Member to reach staff other then the Admin Email (I tried that) or Reporting a post.
Now I almost reported one of my own posts knowing it would send out an email to all staff.

Also I am pretty certain you can 'Turn Off' the multiple PM feature so no members can spam PMs.
Or you can make another User Group that allows older members to still use multiple PMs and new White Members can only PM one at a time...
For those that do not know what User Group means is that we all are in a User Group. Mods have there own.
What it really entails is X amount of permissions allowed for each user group.
For example Red Mods have a lot of permissions, then Yellow Mods have less permissions and my guess is the Yellow ones cannot delete posts.
However, it is all based on how the Admins set them up.
vBulletin is very versatile. I like vB because you can do so much with it.

Also can the PM amounts be kicked up? 50 PMs is really 25 PMs if you take in account saving PMs to your outbox like I do.
(The Saved PM is 'counted as a PM' so you only have 1/2 of the total)
That way I can remember what was previously said in an older PM.
Make sense? I can fill that up in a short amount of time.
I figure the Admins have 2K PMs, Reds have 1000-1500 PMs, and the Yellows have 500 PMs to work with.
So asking for 200 PMs is not that much of a deal I would think...
Downloading them and starting over is a pain. Not near as easy to read back when one is on the fly so to speak. ;)

@micjer: Its ALL good. :smoke: No hard feelings here. Yer OK...I will vouch for you! :naughty:

EDIT: Oops..I forgot to thank the staff for making me a Minnesota Viking!
Many will not understand that reference. Many will! It is from the 1970's-80's. Think NFL! ;)

SuperManny 12-23-2009 12:52 AM

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I'm sure these things will iron themselves out with a little help from our super team of mods.:original:

Let me take this opportunity to say a huge "THANK YOU!!" to Anchor and all the rest of the gang!:thumb_yello:

Shairia 12-23-2009 12:57 AM

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I wish someone would post exactly what the criteria for being able to PM is. I was not able to. It appears the original proposal has changed. Do I have to be a member for a minimum of thrity days regardless of their post count? I do not like the idea of just posting for the sake of gaining privaledges and I fear that is what will happen.

ps: I think the moderators have had their hands full of late and are doing a wnderful job dealing with the changes and subsequent problems. I've noticed a remarkable change on the forum, save a few exceptions.

Anchor 12-23-2009 03:07 AM

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Shairia - I will vouch for you :)

I assume you know where your towel is?

A..

Shairia 12-23-2009 04:05 AM

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Thank you. No, I'll have to go and buy a new one.:original:

Karen 12-23-2009 04:20 AM

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Originally Posted by 14 Chakras (Post 206780)
Any idea what's up with the thread voting buttons? It seems once one person votes on them, no one else can, so they are pretty useless at this point representing one persons opinion only it appears.

Most things get abused. Someone was handing out 1 star ratings. So I think it was disabled.


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