Is Palin the incarnation of Hitler?

[yettyn]

I know it's a rather controversial title but a few things that happened the last weeks came to rise this question inside and I though it could be a good idea to bring it up here to see if "I'm the only one?". I did a search in the forum pairing Palin and Hitler, which didn't really match but resulted in 1 instance that connected Hitler with Hillary. Never mind, here is make take on the subject:

Some week ago I was confronted with this photo heading an article online and immediately as the very first "word" that popped up inside was Hitler. I'm not sure when and where it's taken but it ought t be one of her very first public speeches as VP candidate. Anyhow, I mentioned this to my mate and then it faded away in my mind until a few days ago...

A friend of my mate was visiting our town and she went out to see her over a coffee. When back she told me this, somehow they came to talk about the US presidency election (note, this is Europe) and the friend (a female doctor) suddenly said "that Palin, she somehow reminds me of Hitler" and it wasn't until after my mate told the fiend I had said the same.

Then yesterday I found out there is a rumor that Palin as Mayor tried to have list of books banned from the library in Wassilla. Following up on it I found though that this is really a rumor but still actually more of a "salted" version of what really took place. This URL covers it pretty well and even if the rumor as such isn't true it's rather scary I would say.

I am not an expert on Hitler, nor American politics but the notions I got kinda "urged" me to bring it up to find out more about it. As far as I can see it there are several similarities to when Hitler came to power and almost got away with it.

And please, don't hijack and make this treed into something else then relating to what the title ask. I know this is a sensitive and controversial topic, but I am interested in anyone else see any correlations here and what it might be and the whole point is about understanding what's really going on and what shapes it may take.

[cantaloupe]

With all due respect, how could this be verified even just enough for purposes of conversation? Many have used Hitler's tactics. Many of them were not new to him. I don't like Palin or intend to vote for her or approve of the ways she conducts herself but I think this is a silly thread. Please explain what you hope to gain by pursuing this line of thought.

[Heretic]

I would think that this is pure rumor

to ban books by Shakespeare from schools would be political suicide for anyone IMHO much less a vice presidency

not to mention it would have been great mudslinging fodder for the Obama campaign and we have heard nothing

as far as Hitler incarnate *shrug* who am I to say, doesn't matter to me anyway

Dubya has more in common with him as far as policy is concerned though

[Fredkc]

Is Palin the incarnation of Hitler?

So the soul that was Hitler wormed its way back among us, and rather than the whole "get whats comin' to me", or the "atone for past acts" routine, decides to play oldies ? Hmmm....

<rant>
As far as I'm concerned all four of them, Obama, Palin, McCain and Biden are the worst of incompetents. I wouldn't have one of them picking up my garbage. Every single one of them have repeatedly betrayed the oaths they've taken to get where they are. In fact three of them have done so during this very campaign!

Why in hell anyone would vote for any of them is completely beyond me.

But since the subject of Hitler is around... we might as well toss in Obama's call for the "Obama Youth Corp" as well.

"We cannot continue to rely on our military in order to achieve the national security objectives that we have set. We've got to have a civilian national security force that's just as powerful, just as strong, just as well funded."

McCain is so completely owned he makes my skin crawl, and Obama?
He sets off my BS-Meter so loud I couldn't hear the phone if it was tied around my neck.
</end rant>

[lehomonuka]

If anyone is the most "hitler-like" it's GWB. he's been following AH's tactics
all along. Check out the family tree fom Prescot/walker to now.bushyboy
used almost the same tactics on 911 as AH did at the Rieghtstag.

The only simularity palin has with Adolph is the hairstyle

[King Lear]

Are you people sooo stupid?


Anyone who doesn't fit with your believe-system and your opinions or said or did something "evil" in your opinion, wether you're right or left, is immediately compared to Hitler.

C'mon people get back your brains. Hitler wasn't a god nor was he the devil, he just was a human. A human with an unusual high IQ (145), a talent for offensive war tactics and someone who had an extraordinary speaking talent.

But that was it!
He was no super-human and also no demon. He just had luck. And the dificulties for the people of his time helped him to gain power and to fulfill his early ideas, i.e. bring them to reality. There's no help by any dark society or other BS.

Do you people know that Stalin killed 20 million people more than Hitler? Or that Mao killed 45 million !only! of his own people?

Why you don't compare evil people to these two? And there would be much more evil dictators on this world who you could compare people to.

Also, look up books of post 1815 and read to what a demon Napoleon was made to after his death. In 1900 opinions about Napoleon changed and today he's only known as military genius with a favor of totalitarian rule, but he also killed millions in his time on his several campaigns.

Also such high respected historic person as Julius Ceasar killed millions in his several campaigns. Only in his Gallia (France) campaign Ceaser annihilated 1.5 million Celts!!!

So stop to compare stupid and ridiculous people like Palin to Hitler, she is thousands of levels under Hitler, Stalin and Mao.


Even such criminals as W. Bush, Saddam, Osama Bin Laden... will never reach Hitler's "niveau".


It's like comparing a 3rd grader to Einstein.


All these Hitler comparisons are soooo ridiculous, made up by stupid people who think they know history but they don't. They only read the "headlines" of history but never understand history in it's core.


P.S. There's no proof until today that the Nationalsocialists did burn the Reichstag. Without any question the Nationalsocialists did profit of it, but until today historic science has no proof that the Communist Marinus van der Lubbe didn't do it. So, stop ignoring the facts!

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Simply ridiculous...

[visual co-creator]

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[Ali Quadir]

Of course not. Hitler was an orator. Well... At least publicly... And even if she is. Should it matter one bit?

In my opinion: She is a soul with "her own distortion of the best intention" who got thrown something incredible in her lap. Something she thinks she can use to "save the world" but something she unfortunately cannot handle. We are already beginning to see the discrepancy between her world view and the world. McCain chose her to strengthen his position. But it's already clear that she does not do this. It seems he made a critical mistake. But this mistake is not Palin's fault.

She is most certainly not an evil person.

There are billions of beautiful people who should not attempt to become president or vice president.

[yettyn]

Originally Posted by cantaloupe

With all due respect, how could this be verified even just enough for purposes of conversation? Many have used Hitler's tactics. Many of them were not new to him. I don't like Palin or intend to vote for her or approve of the ways she conducts herself but I think this is a silly thread. Please explain what you hope to gain by pursuing this line of thought.

Well I was mostly interested in hearing if anyone else had got this feeling of association with Hitler observing here, especially from my attached picture?

My interest rose from the fact that someone else I know and know is sane, had the same feeling unaware of mine.

It was the "banning of books" rumor that kinda triggered me on the subject, and yes I know it's a rumor but not really without ground. The part with the list is definitely made up, but it's verified (by campaign spokesman) that she did "probe" about it, 3 times actually and the attempt to fire the libertarian is also documented.

Another thing I didn't bring up in my original post is that it's pretty obvious her "job" is to appeal to the "stupid dumb mass" of population, many of which may not even have a phone to show up in the polls. Hitler came to power much due to heavy support from that group, if I haven't got it wrong.

I don't deny this is pure speculation, and I have developed it a bit further in another treed, w/o really connecting it to Hitler (url below). The question has been put forward in other treeds though "I wonder what's really going on, what they are hiding, by bring every bodies attention to the Bailout Bill affair?".

Here is the post I mentioned above.

[cheezburgarzprz]

Originally Posted by visual co-creator

I don't hear enlightened people using bad language. They can usually find another way to convey their meaning, perhaps less offensively?

Have you ever spoken to an enlightened person?

[freekatz]

Personally I've always thought Bush was - he was born not too long after Hitler's death. Hitler realized it was a lost cause so planned on being reincarnated in the most powerful country in the world to continue he's nefarious plans for world dominaton...perhaps Palin was the delightful Ava?

[shaston]

Comparing Sarah Palin to Hitler? Are you completely NUTS?

[King Lear]

Originally Posted by freekatz

Personally I've always thought Bush was - he was born not too long after Hitler's death. Hitler realized it was a lost cause so planned on being reincarnated in the most powerful country in the world to continue he's nefarious plans for world dominaton...perhaps Palin was the delightful Ava?

again ridiculity...

Did you know that the USA did not play any role in Hitler's geopolitic strategies? He thought of the USA as a weak new state which is concentrated on isolationism, as it was until 1914.
He never understood the strong supporting role of the US troops in WW1, for him the USA was minor.

And he just declared war to the USA, immedialtely after Pearl Harbour, just because he thought the USA was controlled by the Jews.

Never ever it came to his mind that this "colonial" new state would rise to a super-power. The only super-power which played a role in his strategic believes, was the British Empire.
And this Empire he wanted to support until 1940, because he thought their colonial policy were correct.
He even wanted to take their colonial policy as a role model for his new Reich.

Also, a wide spread myth: Hitler and world domination.
Totally wrong. He never wanted world domination! he just wanted a colonial empire in the east, a "German India", to make Germany more autarchic of the foreign countries, especially in the issue of food supply!
To rule the world, never was his goal. He even wanted to leave 2/3 of the USSR for the Russians after taking the European part of the USSR.

[yettyn]

Originally Posted by Excalibitar

Yeah, ok, you need to reexamine your history books because i feel that you're veering way off course with an accusation such as this and it upsets me.

Thanks that you edited your post, as it didn't make you look so god

Then, I am not accusing anybody of anything, I just ask a simple question to find out if anyone else had got the same notion. That's it.

But I can see it chased out the trolls so I doubt at this point anyone dare to come forwards to share. Thanks.

If any moderator see this I would be fine with if this treed could be locked as I as topic starter don't have anything further to say on the topic.

[Fredkc]

Gettin' a bit wierd for me.


Thanx Alla same.

[yettyn]

Originally Posted by Excalibitar

i guess what i was trying to say is i was merely comparing you to a "not allowed to type it", just like you compared palin to hitler.

i mean i read your post and it was the first thing that came into my head.

Well if you read my post carefully, I don't really compare her with Hitler, but as English isn't my native language possibly it drowns. I am asking a question that raised inside me out of several connected observations but never mind, I am old enough to know that I am not "not allowed to type it".