Avalon & Camelot Reptilian Experiencers revisited

[eleni]

Yes Carol- I know the difference between intentional astral travel and jumprrom but am confused as to the statement that we are the only one's who can do this. I believe most species are capable of interdimensional travel using their own bodies- it's not just us (obviously question not directed at you).

On an interesting note- when I am hooked up to the mind mirror- all I have to do is think of a specific person and their vibratory level- unconditional love(my nanny or a yogi I am in contact with on an ethereal plane) and my mind pattern becomes *round/whole/all gaps filled* as shown on the mind mirror. It was that easy (raising core vibratory level and experiencing that) that is where I would like to reside fully.

I've also had those experiences where I was one with all (I once told my zen teacher that I experienced it as everything and yet nothing and he understood completely) a zone of no time/space no duality yet at the same time I understood what is called evil/murder etc; in that space I did not see it as evil if that makes any sense. Hard to comprehend unless one has experienced it.
I've been a student of Advaita the past 5 years.....

[Wormhole]

Eleni,
I agree that we are not the only ones who can, but we are the only ones who can in twelve distinct ways. Our genetic patterning is the most complex of all and includes many races. We may travel through time, space, dimensions and more. We can also be used by other races to travel, for our construct allows us pilot craft as well as astrally move.

I hope that helps.
Peace of Mind, Strength of Heart,
Wormhole

[eleni]

Yes, now I understand what you were speaking of. Thank you for clarification.

[Carol]

I suspect many beings are capable of interdimensinal travel and agree with much of what you wrote. I guess I'm a bit confused now myself.

Originally Posted by eleni

Yes Carol- I know the difference between intentional astral travel and jumprrom but am confused as to the statement that we are the only one's who can do this. I believe most species are capable of interdimensional travel using their own bodies- it's not just us (obviously question not directed at you).

On an interesting note- when I am hooked up to the mind mirror- all I have to do is think of a specific person and their vibratory level- unconditional love(my nanny or a yogi I am in contact with on an ethereal plane) and my mind pattern becomes *round/whole/all gaps filled* as shown on the mind mirror. It was that easy (raising core vibratory level and experiencing that) that is where I would like to reside fully.

I've also had those experiences where I was one with all (I once told my zen teacher that I experienced it as everything and yet nothing and he understood completely) a zone of no time/space no duality yet at the same time I understood what is called evil/murder etc; in that space I did not see it as evil if that makes any sense. Hard to comprehend unless one has experienced it.
I've been a student of Advaita the past 5 years.....

[Ammit]

....... Resonance........?

[Ammit]

Resonance and dna (genomic position).
Are dna resonates at a frequency equal to leylines = 19.47

[eleni]

Isn't that what Anna Hayes says? DNA resonance at ley lines and they have been blocked so our *junk DNA* has not been activated?

[Ammit]

What, you knew that, jees i have been researching this shi, thanks Eleni i will check her out.

[eleni]

Not specifically19.4-19.5 but I do remember her saying that- a friend of mine gave me her 2 books years ago and I just couldn't get into reading them so I skimmed them but maybe I should have another look.

[Carol]

Here are some interesting links.


http://theuniversalseduction.com/art...abs-not-milabs

http://www.bibliotecapleyades.net/vi...hethread12.htm


"It is not unusual for abductee parents to say that their children have been "altered." Children sometimes say that even though they were born from their mother's womb, they "know" they do not belong in their family. Some abductees can point to so many significant differences between them and their siblings, parents, and other relatives that one can easily see how they would question their genetic link."

[Ammit]

Carol

I am sorry for your friend honey, its wrong and should not have happened.

Ammit

[mntruthseeker]

Originally Posted by Carol

Because there is a lot going on with this thread behind the scenes as well and I wanted to share my view with everyone, not just a few of the other members. Each thread is a process. I was in the middle of thinking about the topic and gone when it had been closed. However, just because the thread was closed doesn't mean that my mind is closed or that the topic isn't worth diving into more in-depth. I've thought about the whole reptilian agenda for years. Due to a personal experience I'm at a different place with how I view it now then when I first heard about the reptilians through David Icke and through personal contacts with abductees. I can easily see where the reptilians can appear demonic and representative of the devil just by appearance alone. So the unanswered questions still need exploration.

My initial response toward the reptilians was revulsion. I associated them with the fallen angels and saw them as satanic. This race of aliens, based on what Credo Mutwa reported, are clearly involved with satanic ritualistic abuse of humans and children. At that time in my mind all reptilians were evil. However, I have come a long way in my research and discussions with abductees/contactees. I now know there are divisions within the reptilians and the human hybrids are a big reason for this. I also am aware that not all reptilians are bad in the same manner as not all humans are bad. The reality is that it is far easier for the mind to paint a picture of black and white rather then to step back and explore the deeper realities associated with this particular group of aliens.

My heart cries out to those innocents who are victims of abuse. Whether at human hands or alien hands. The deeper truth of the matter has to do with the intent of the individual. For example we call Hitler evil... yet what happened with WWII is that the evil within humans as individuals was unleashed. If the evil were not there to begin with, those under Hitler's command would have walked away. My husband's father and grandfather were among those who did not have evil in them and who did walk away from Nazi control during the war. They refused to join the SS or participate in evil.

So the issue that begs to be looked at is our own unfinished internal spiritual process. Do we allow evil (which to me is that which is alienated from god) to take root within our being and act upon it, or do we instead say "no." An image that stands clear in my mind is from Lord of the Rings of Gandalf standing on the precipice facing Balrog pounding his staff onto the bridge beneath his feet and shouting, "You shall not pass!" Being a therapist and having worked with many, many people I've seen this scenario played out in day-to-day life repeatedly. The issue is complex and yet simple. What is it that we say "no" to and what is it that we affirm. It is about choices and our attitude when we meet adversity. It is our attitude that we have control over. We may not have control over the events that manifest outside our lives but we do have a choice on how we meet them.

Carol, I read this over and over and unable to find the answer I am looking for. You ask, do we allow evil to take root within our being and act upon it, or do we instead say "no" ?

This makes no sense to me if one is abducted.......how do you say NO ? What are our choices there ? None as I see it

So my question to you is this. What happens if we know someone and have for many years and you love this person as they are beautiful in every sense of the word.......Spiritual, loving but an ET (my guess reptilian).

I am told this person is here to help us during this time. That many are here and more are on their way. I am told that many have been here since 1947 wanting to step in and help us but unable to per their "agreement". No aid given but questions answered with inspirational guidance This is no longer a secret to any of us, or it shouldn't be.

I felt repulsive when I discovered this but only because of what I have heard by David Icke and Credo Mutwa. I did not sell my soul to this person. I have not been an evil person during my time on earth and I have no intention of starting now. I may have been rude but its something I'm working on. I am working to improve myself and with the help of this ET friend of mine.

I have come to the conclusion........................they are not all evil and I refuse to accept that.

Would an evil ET teach one how to love and be loving to others ?

[eleni]

My understanding is that there are rogue factions of reptoids and some are reformed. I mean we can all evolve spiritually so why not portions of reptoids as well?

[mntruthseeker]

Well thats not even the story I'm getting. I am being told that when things got turned around here on earth with the treaty and all. There were many on other planets that didnt agree at all. In fact they were described to me as being evil ! TPTB had alot to do with that themself.

I heard sanni's story and it brought tears to my eyes. I have heard others and its not easy for any of the ET's that were here or came to help us out. This is a big deal as it doesnt just effect our planet, it effects them all. Sanni claims to be grey - greys are same species as reptilians, right ?

There are so many ET's here on our planet just as Dolores Cannon says. They are not here to harm us and if that was the case, then I guess I find it hard to believe that it hasn't happened already. The treaty is up in May 2012. We might as well drop everything right now.


No, I have searched and searched and there is nothing set in stone that they are all evil. I am not even sure these people are reptilian. I'm guessing because they said they were not from here. But they are associated with the praying mantis and small greys. they are from a different planet. I seen pictures. they all look like the eskimo or native american race.

Right ? If we are to believe that they are all evil, then we are all in trouble and I refuse to believe that.

I maybe jumped on my intuition of them being reptilian because I haven't got the guts to come right out and ask.

soon, I might have to .....now that the door has been opened to me

[Angel in Disguise]

Perhaps totally off topic and questioned before... However... How does one know if one is reptilian? Could I be or you be and not know it?

[mntruthseeker]

Exactly You know we all probally are of the reptilian family

I think about that alot. Who really knows ?

The whole idea was to keep us in fear. Last night they had a special on Dan Browns new book on TV. They said that many men took and tore many pages out of the bible (no surprise here) and when asked why to George Washington. His answer was, so we would have all the "ideas" safe and lead the world that way oh yeah right !

BS BS BS if I ever smelled it. Of course I wouldn't expect any other answer coming from Disney Channel who aired this two hour special. Who else would be honest in their findings? This lady even made it sound like a huge joke that many in the world thought the reptilian race ran this world.

We really dont have the answer.

Many of us looked within Religion and what a fiasco that turned out to be

[Lionhawk]

Warmer!

[mntruthseeker]

Well I am probally going to be sorry I did this but I had to

I just sent an email to one of these people and just came right out and asked if she honored the same God as I did and it wasn't lucifer

Oh I feel quite nervous but I seen no way around this.

I hope she understands as I can't go along with all of these people not knowing. I want no part of Luciferian worship in my life

[Carol]

Originally Posted by eleni

My understanding is that there are rogue factions of reptoids and some are reformed. I mean we can all evolve spiritually so why not portions of reptoids as well?

I agree with eleni. When I was talking with one friend who had 6 hybrid reptoid children we discussed that all of us are on a spiritual journey of evolution and each is at a different rung of the ladder so-to-speak.

Many of the abductees who now have hybrid children love their children as it should be. A blended race of beings are evolving so perhaps we should be supportive of this blended race?

However, what I'm not supportive of are those who kidnap, rape and exploit the innocent whether human or alien. There is a distinct difference here.

The other thought that occurred to me triggered sy someone who was repeatedly abducted by the greys said they told her they were a dying race... so, after all this time we now know they are using humans to keep evolving. I don't go along with this but do understand the survival instinct and to what lengths the greys will go to survive. Remember the movie Mimzy? One would almost think that it's a disinfo psyop as is Wrinkle in Time. Parts of the information revealed are real and parts are made up. The people of the future are seeking a DNA sample from a pure child located in the past. When the sample has been collected it is sent back to the future and used to modified and correct the DNA problems of those from the future. Then there is one scene when the humans are talking off the protective suits (that look exactly like a grey) and walk out into the sun. The children levitate and are telepathic.. the world is a lovely peaceful place now that these changes were made. Is this the future with the new hybrid race. We already know that when they look like us they can blend in.

I honestly don't think the greys are interested in helping humans out as much as they are interested in helping themselves out. The greys are just one alien group that impacts the entire planet. Think about it for a moment. The tall whites are here as are many other alien species and I've not heard of any reports of them wanting to blend their DNA with humans.

So it stands to reason that there still are many unanswered questions and issues to yet be asked and examined when it comes to the greys' hybridization project.

Most of the hybrids I know are enhanced. They have additional abilities, healing abilities, intellectual abilities, creative abilities... some are aware of their heritage and many are dealing with PTS as trauma kept at the unconscious level does create emotional challenges.

Do we allow evil to take root..?

Some hybrids who work with the greys are not so nice. Where did that negativity come from? Their human side or alien side? Both sides? Who knows? However, we know that evil exists and that each of us has an opportunity to say no to the evil we may harbor within our own beingness.

I just think many hybrids will likely experience a time of conflicted feelings and a lot of confusion. Sorting out the complex emotional issues in these types of situations can indeed provide quite a challenge.

[BROOK]

I just think many hybrids will likely experience a time of conflicted feelings and a lot of confusion. Sorting out the complex emotional issues in these types of situations can indeed provide quite a challenge

Carol,
I agree very much with this....very complex situation..and inevetably a major challenge for them.

[mntruthseeker]

I find this very interesting but I would like to add what sanni had said in the interview she gave. She made the remark that she was coming from the future to help us when her craft crashed So as a punishment she had to stay here and she talked about how unhappy she was

(one of my friends says the very same thing, about being unhappy and not fitting in)

Sanni also said that they had no choice but to help the ones that were already here because their race was also threathened. ???

My friend said something along the same line.

She says they have been coming back to help us evolve since 1947 but were unable to say anything to help in any way. She has been threatened death many times. She has been attack and her work stopped.

I said before it isn't just our planet that will suffer. They just tried to bomb the moon..................we know there are many wars going on in our skies

[TheObserver]

A Wrinkle In Time, i enjoyed that book as a child, knew it was fiction so didn't go about believing it, just thought it was cool, the only thing i remember of it these decades later is the word tesseract.

[mntruthseeker]

I want to share this blog of one of my friends that I was talking about. I asked her which God she honored and not I am ashame.

I told myself that I need not be as my love for my Creator and Jesus is strong and for them I had to be certain and not afraid to ask

Here is her reply


OFFERINGS.NLIGHTPRESS.COM published a new entry entitled "The Question Then Becomes........" on 10/26/2009 8:05:52 PM, written by Offerings.


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The Question Then Becomes........
Being driven by what I can only call "my mission," I speak when I feel asked by God to speak, I act when I feel asked by God to act ... and then deal with whatever consequences arise. More often that not, I don't foresee what will follow my actions or my words. I suppose because I don't look for the downside. I choose instead to simply take whatever action seems to be called for in the moment. I assume that I would not be asked to walk the path I walk without God's help. And so somewhere in the midst of everything, God is my reason .. God is THE reason.

And so the question then becomes ... if I remember coming to this planet, where is it I came from? Am I that different from everyone else? Can I expect to be seen as a monster or a threat or perhaps a spy .. or worse?

The truth is, I am no different than anyone else, as far as I know. When I "died" and went on my journey with The Presence of God, I was shown all of God's existence. I was shown the process of souls being born, if we can use that term. I was shown the unity of all who live within existence, and the sadness that lives in the belief of separation. But the belief in separation and differences is a necessary tool for learning and so the sadness must be endured ... and possibly .. some day .. understood.

My origins are no different than any other person or being. I am a child of God, as all entities are. In the higher dimensions, which is where I came from (where every person actually came from), I know every person and "alien being" as a brother or a sister. As one with me, with God, with all things.

Some might struggle to understand how God and "aliens" can blend into one belief system or one Knowing. The only knowledge that I can offer is my own, which is that all things within this existence are things of God. How a soul chooses to live, to learn, to interact within existence, is a matter of what that soul wants to learn. The process of understanding all of existence is the goal. And often that process appears quite the opposite of what we believe God to be.

I don't have all of the answers. I only have the memories. The memory of coming from The Source of God, the higher dimensions.. The memories of all that has been shown to me throughout the years. My source of information is God. Always .. always .. from higher dimensional realities, where emotions, judgments, and tainted beliefs are not there to influence the truths.

I devote my work, my days, to sharing the truths and the love that I know is every person's right. I believe my work speaks of who I am. If it resonates as truth to those who read it, if it feels like the original intention of love, then I'm blessed to share it. If it does not, then I can only offer what was given to me by The Presence of God .... "The truths of existence are revealed in layers. When one layer is accepted and fully understood, the next layer is revealed. Therefore, there will be times when it seems truth changes. Truth does not change. People change."

Blessings and Peace to all,
Lauren

[Angel in Disguise]

Wow MN... Her words are pretty much my existence as well... I resonated with them like no other. She explained it very well... Thank you for sharing that

[mntruthseeker]

angel

I know I am truly blessed to have such a friend I did get my answers from her and I was wrong, very wrong on
who I thought she says she is not a grey nor do they come around her. She deals with those in the 8th dimension


I am fortunate to have such a wonderful friend and now I know I only need to ask for her help


We have alot of help on their way here to help us and I feel lighter after getting these thoughts out of my head

she says there are 3000 crafts/ships on their way now