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Old 01-06-2010, 06:29 AM   #201
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I get really ticked off with this reason of us not being able to handle the truth. Maybe if we weren't lied to about everything and kept in the dark about so much for so long, then the masses would be able to handle this with ease. So this mess the gov't got themselves in is their own damn fault. They really deserve whatever backlash they get from the ticked off people. However, I do hope it's minimal so we can concentrate on whatever positives will come from it.
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Old 01-07-2010, 01:41 AM   #202
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My friend found the article... Unfortunately it's in Spanish but you can translate it using google translate...

http://www.masalladelaciencia.es/edg...ctos_id1169928


Another link... And yes I realize this is old news but it was on the news in costa rica last night!

http://escuadrondelaverdad.wordpress...-de-diciembre/

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Old 01-09-2010, 01:11 AM   #203
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I can't help but think if people had a better education in science, more specifically, the stars, galaxies, and the universe in general, and the immense, unimaginable scale of it all....more people would be open to the existence of ETs. Most people don't know the difference between a galaxy and the universe. They think it's two different words meaning the same thing! ugh! Of course, these same people can't find the north pole on a globe either.
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Old 01-10-2010, 11:10 AM   #204
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I can't help but think if people had a better education in science, more specifically, the stars, galaxies, and the universe in general, and the immense, unimaginable scale of it all....more people would be open to the existence of ETs. Most people don't know the difference between a galaxy and the universe. They think it's two different words meaning the same thing! ugh! Of course, these same people can't find the north pole on a globe either.
Totally agree G9...our paths have been laid before us...As George Green states it is, but a play!! We just need to change the 'Directors' and 'Producers'...

Found this...looks like a compilation of UFO's... nice quitar music...



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In Part One, Dr. Greer discusses sending a briefing to President Obama, his multiple successful contact protocols with ETs, and the work his team has carried out despite several members being murdered. He warns of the dangers of non-disclosure, as well as the weaponizing of space to keep us at perpetual war against "galactic enemies."



Please watch Part Two, where Dr. Greer covers many other exciting topics such as the Alien Abduction Hoaxes perpetuated by Those in Charge. He explains that they've repressed technology which could save Planet Earth. He offers a positive vision for our future -- a future of abundance - once the repressed technology is made available. "Every cubic inch of space, not outer space but the space around us, has enough energy to power the Earth for one day," insists Dr. Greer.



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Old 01-11-2010, 12:39 PM   #206
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Viking,

I have a question for you; do you think that supposedly Dr. Greer is right, will we actually use that technology for mankind´s benefit or not?
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Old 01-11-2010, 12:57 PM   #207
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I have a question for you; do you think that supposedly Dr. Greer is right, will we actually use that technology for mankind´s benefit or not?
Hi Beren... Well thats the idea as he has stated...

Hey, I know where you are coming from and I understand your trail of thought. But we cannot be kept in the dark indefinately, can we?

Sooner or later truths will come to surface, as has been.

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Old 01-11-2010, 03:32 PM   #208
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Hi Beren... Well thats the idea as he has stated...

Hey, I know where you are coming from and I understand your trail of thought. But we cannot be kept in the dark indefinately, can we?

Sooner or later truths will come to surface, as has been.

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Hmmm that is a food for brain... I am afraid that we as humans in this stage of mental and spiritual and physical being are not capable of very high deeds.

99% of inventions on this Earth was used by armies or it was firstly developed for military use ,then for civilians.
What if ,when new tech arrive (which could give us all energy we want and need ) was to be taken over by military?

The point is that we as humans did not learned so far to love others and not to be selfish. If a new toy comes around ,we misuse it.
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Old 01-11-2010, 04:48 PM   #209
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Hi Beren…I can see what you are trying to say and fully understand the way you think.

Yes Humans have not been capable of high deeds of late.

However the tide is changing and people are beginning to wake up from the slumber. The Elite are running out of ideas of control, and higher consciousness is taking over. Everywhere things are starting to change.

Hey Beren have you seen Avatar??? Awesome film…you must see it…you’ll love it…this was in my inbox…perfect timing… ;-)

“Avatar on road to #1 movie of all time

The cat is out of the bag. This movie is expected to become the #1 movie of all time. Only Cameron's Titanic has still higher revenues, but this will fall to "Avatar."

Still the dark forces are attempting to steer people away from this film that exposes their deeds & points people towards a better life of spiritual connectedness & being one with nature. How are the dark forces attempting to do this now? Using one of their old tried & true techniques of creating division. They are now attempting to say over the AP wires that this film has a racist theme. When humans act like savages with war machines, one of their very own sides with the Aliens to save them. This film has nothing to do with race. It's
about doing the right thing in the face of profiteering war mongering savage humans attempting to steal & kill from beautiful humanoids on another planet.

Attempting to Create divisions allows the dark forces to more easily control people since people then focus on one another instead of them.
These dark ones are failing completely in steering people away from this film & the numbers prove it. It's getting funny & sad to look at what they try to do.


Also Kissinger and many others have gone AWOL!! Have you read this…this is just touching the surface…

https://projectavalon.net/forum/showthread.php?t=19087

Now don’t forget that Kissinger was one of the main guys at the ‘Bilderberger Group’… so what does this mean??

Are we seeing the dismantling of this evil organisation??

As B Fulford stated in his last blog

“The octopus is dying: 5 Kissinger associates killed; Kissinger missing-presumed dead

Five senior associates of Henry (Heinz) Kissinger were killed on December 12, 2009 and Kissinger himself has been missing since that time and is now presumed dead, according to senior intelligence sources. Furthermore, the Texas law firm Troutman Sanders, which functioned as the central nexus of the Bush/Nazi crime families financial operations, has been shut down by Interpol, according to these senior intelligence sources. The firm has been contacted but has not returned our e-mail at the time of writing this.

The heads of the Bush clan have been put under house arrest and CIA chief Panetta has been silenced, the sources say. We are also hearing President Obama and Vice-President Biden will be removed from power and replaced by Nancy Pelosi and Hillary Clinton possibly by late January. There is a lot of chaos and confusion on the ranks of the Nazis as a result of these most recent developments.


“You can suppress the truth from some of the people some of the time but you can't suppress all the truth from all the people all of the time”…

Have faith Light is getting through and we are winning.



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Old 01-15-2010, 08:40 PM   #210
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LA Times poll: 69% want their officials, like Denver, to prepare for contact with extraterrestrials

As of Thursday January 14, 2010, fully 69% of respondents to a Los Angeles Times online poll had cast a “Yes!” vote to the question “cast your own vote on whether you’d like officials in your hometown to prepare for E.T.”

The Los Angeles Times established the online poll on Dec. 3, 2009, followed the Nov. 27, 2009 municipal approval of more than 10,000 signatures for a voter initiative to establish a commission to “create a responsible, responsive, common sense strategy for dealing with issues related to the presence of extraterrestrial intelligent beings on Earth.” The Denver Extraterrestrial Affairs Commission initiative has been set for voter approval in August 2010 Denver elections.

LA Times poll is congruent with scientific polls on extraterrestrial presence

The Los Angeles Times poll is congruent with scientific polls on the extraterrestrial presence. According to the 2002 Roper poll on the ET presence, "Two-thirds of Americans say they think there are other forms of intelligent life in the universe and nearly half say they believe that UFOs have visited the earth in some form over the years (48 percent) or that aliens have monitored life on earth (45 percent). In fact, more than one in three Americans (37 percent) believe that humans have already interacted with extraterrestrial lifeforms. These beliefs tend to be more prevalent among males and among adults under the age of 65."


There is a solid body of empirical evidence establishing an extraterrestrial presence on planet Earth. The Disclosure Project has gathered over 100 high level governmental, military, intelligence witnesses to extraterrestrial projects and activities, including first hand witness testimony. Over 20 of these witnesses appeared at a National Press Club press conference on May 9, 2001. Our legal system convicts a defendant of murder on the basis of first hand witness testimony. It is the journalistic responsibility of any mainstream media to investigate and report this testimony and evidence as part of voter education for the August 2010 Denver ET vote.

“Cast your vote here: Should the government prepare for UFOs?”

The 69% poll approval for an Extraterrestrial Affairs Commission for their own municipality has occurred even after the LA Times article by reporter Steve Padilla was slanted with anti-extraterrestrial ridicule of the sort also used by the Sacramento Bee in a Jan. 12, 2010 “spike” article by SacBee reporter Ross Mackenzie on the 2010 Denver ET initiative.

LA Times reporter Steve Padilla, rather than providing facts about the extraterrestrial presence, led his article with a pejorative and irrelevant quote about “Bigfoot” from debunker Michael Shermer, publisher of Skeptic magazine.

Here is an extended excerpt from the Los Angeles Times article:

“Michael Shermer, publisher of Skeptic magazine, summed it up this way: “It’s like saying you’re going to have a ballot initiative about the existence of Bigfoot."

“He was referring to political news this week that is truly out of this world. Jeff Peckman, a UFO aficionado in Colorado, gathered enough signatures to put this pressing question before Denver voters next August: Should the city create an Extraterrestrial Affairs Commission?

“As our colleagues Ashley Powers and DeeDee Correll report:

“If approved, the city panel would promote ‘harmonious, peaceful, mutually respectful and beneficial coexistence’ between earthlings and extraterrestrials, in part by developing protocols for ‘diplomatic contact.’ Its seven members would include an expert in taking testimony from people who’ve survived ‘direct personal close encounters’ with aliens.

“Follow this link for the full report, complete with shameless ‘Star Trek’ and ‘Star Wars’ references. In the meantime, cast your own vote on whether you’d like officials in your hometown to prepare for E.T.”

Examiner.com readers can vote in the Los Angeles Times online poll

By clicking here, Examiner.com readers can vote in the Los Angeles Times online poll as to whether they would like their own city to prepare for contact with extraterrestrials. The webpage to which you are directed will contain a button for your online vote.

A pattern is emerging of mainstream media distortion instead of voter education

With the documented cases of mainstream media information distortion on the 2010 Denver ET initiative by the Los Angeles Times and the Sacramento Bee, a pattern now appears to be emerging.

The job of mainstream media reporting on voter initiative issues should be one of voter education about the underlying, complex issues involved in the initiative on the ballot.

Voter education is most especially needed in the case of the 2010 Denver ET initiative for a number of reasons.

The 2010 Denver ET ballot initiative has been officially placed on the August 2010 electoral ballot in accordance with Colorado and municipal law. The office of Denver’s Mayor John W. Hickenlooper, has stated with regard to the 2010 Denver ET initiative, “We respect the process we have for citizens to put initiatives on the ballot and let voters decide whether to approve them.” There is legitimacy to mainstream media debunking of the Denver Extraterrestial Affairs Commission vote. Voter education is the obligation of any serious journalist or media.

Voter education by the mainstream media is needed because the Denver (and U.S.) electorate has been under an intentional information embargo regarding the extraterrestrial presence since at least 1953. The Durant report of the 1953 U.S. CIA Robertson panel mandated a policy of obligatory debunking and ridicule regarding the extraterrestrial presence and any mention of UFOs.

Yet two mainstream media newspapers, the Los Angeles Times and the Sacramento Bee, rather than respecting their civic duty of educating voters in a ballot initiative, appear to be continuing the policies of the 1953 CIA Robertson panel.

One can now legitimately question whether the journalists involved (Los Angeles Times reporters Steve Padilla, Ashley Powers and DeeDee Correll and SacBee reporter Ross Mackenzie are either negligent in their duties as journalists or consciously engaging in this CIA-influenced policy as a condition of their employment with their respective newspapers.

Now is the time for The Los Angeles Times, The Sacramento Bee, and reporters Steve Padilla, Ashley Powers, DeeDee Correll and Ross Mackenzie to come forward with transparent statements as to why they are publishing “spike” articles on the 2010 Denver ET initiative, and apologize.

http://www.examiner.com/x-2912-Seatt...raterrestrials

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Old 01-15-2010, 11:55 PM   #211
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I just read this and voted! It's now up to 70%!!
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Expert predicts end to hierarchies and value of money, more ET/UFO disclosure starting July-Nov 2010

The period Nov. 7, 2009 to Nov. 2, 2010 will be characterized by the collapse of the U.K.-U.S. axis of western domination, the dissolution of hierarchies, and an end to the perceived value of money in its paper and electronic digital formats, predicts Mayan calendar expert Dr. Carl Johan Calleman. These social breakdowns are part of a period of transformation to a new era, characterized by sharing rather than individual ownership, and by higher human universal consciousness. The pace of extraterrestrial disclosure is expected to accelerate after Nov. 2, 2010. Using the time acceleration matrices of the Mayan calendar, Dr. Calleman correctly predicted the first phase of the global financial collapse for the period Nov. 19, 2007 – Nov. 8, 2008.

Revolutionary transformation: July 17 – November 2, 2010

Using the time acceleration matrix of the Mayan Calendar, Dr. Calleman predicts a specific period of July 17 – November 2, 2010, as the beginning of “revolutionary transformation”.

Calleman states, “Energetically speaking this time period, July 17- November 3, 2010…. What this revolutionary time period most likely is going to amount to is a corresponding decrease of governmental and national authority (not that of any particular government, but governmental authority as such, something which humanity has inherited from the National Wave Movement and its patriarchal frame of consciousness. Needless to say some would try to take advantage of such a situation). It will seriously come into question what we need governments and national borders for “when no soul shall have power (to do) aught for another.” My vision for the time period from [July 17- November 3, 2010] until the beginning of the [March 8, 2001 – October 28, 2011] period is thus a total overhaul of human civilization. This then would also be a time to make choices of path individually.”

Dr. Calleman compares potential for revolutionary transformation during this coming July – November 2010 period to certain periods during the Renaissance and the fall of the Berlin wall.

He writes, “Why would this particular time period, July 17, 2010 – November 2, 2010, bring such a revolutionary transformation? Well, there are two earlier time periods that are noteworthy as parallels to this upcoming one. One is AD 1498-1617, the Renaissance, which in a broad sense meant the overturning of the feudal system that saw the Vatican as the ultimate source of worldly power and the beginning of the modern era. The other is 1986-1992, which carried a revolutionary wave of democracy (including the fall of the Berlin Wall) resulting in a world whose hemispheres were no longer separated.”

The universal axis and energy waves of transformation

In Figure A (above), Dr. Calleman plots what he describes as a wave-curve of oscillating energy waves that emanate from the Universal axis – the core of the physical known universe as described in his most recent book, The Purposeful Universe.

According to Dr. Calleman, alternating waves of universe core energy in turn are mediated through our galactic center and are what drive the evolution of human consciousness. Since the “Big Bang” 16 billion years ago, these waves of energy have been disseminated in alternating format of “boom” and “bust” creating the circumstance of conflict and uncertainty in our reality.

For example (Figure A), the beginning of the global economic downturn on Nov. 18, 2007 initiated a “contraction” period, followed by an “expansion” period starting Nov. 8, 2008 with the election of Barack Obama, followed by a contraction period with the fall of the U.S. dollar, starting Nov. 7, 2009.

On Nov. 2, 2010, and “expansion” period is scheduled to commence, characterized by the dissolution of hierarchies that have kept the human potential under unnecessary controls.

On Oct. 28, 2011 (Figure A), according to Dr. Calleman, the universal alternating energy wave movements end, and Earth is set on a gradual setting of a potential to reach advanced utopian planet status – a virtual “Garden of Eden”.

Dr. Calleman writes, “human consciousness will continue to be transformed step by step in accordance with this plan until we come to the real end date of the process of creation, October 28, 2011. At this date the highest quantum state of the universe will be attained (13.13.13.13.13.13.13.13.13 13 Ahau in the Mayan Calendar) when the shifts disrupting the harmony will come to an end. Obviously, we are not there yet.”

Revolutionary transformation: July 17 – November 2, 2010

Using the time acceleration matrix of the Mayan Calendar, Dr. Calleman predicts a specific period of July 17 – November 2, 2010, as the beginning of “revolutionary transformation”.

Calleman states, “Energetically speaking this time period, July 17- November 3, 2010…. What this revolutionary time period most likely is going to amount to is a corresponding decrease of governmental and national authority (not that of any particular government, but governmental authority as such, something which humanity has inherited from the National Wave Movement and its patriarchal frame of consciousness. Needless to say some would try to take advantage of such a situation). It will seriously come into question what we need governments and national borders for “when no soul shall have power (to do) aught for another.” My vision for the time period from [July 17- November 3, 2010] until the beginning of the [March 8, 2001 – October 28, 2011] period is thus a total overhaul of human civilization. This then would also be a time to make choices of path individually.”

Dr. Calleman compares potential for revolutionary transformation during this coming July – November 2010 period to certain periods during the Renaissance and the fall of the Berlin wall.

He writes, “Why would this particular time period, July 17, 2010 – November 2, 2010, bring such a revolutionary transformation? Well, there are two earlier time periods that are noteworthy as parallels to this upcoming one. One is AD 1498-1617, the Renaissance, which in a broad sense meant the overturning of the feudal system that saw the Vatican as the ultimate source of worldly power and the beginning of the modern era. The other is 1986-1992, which carried a revolutionary wave of democracy (including the fall of the Berlin Wall) resulting in a world whose hemispheres were no longer separated.”

The universal axis and energy waves of transformation

In Figure A (above), Dr. Calleman plots what he describes as a wave-curve of oscillating energy waves that emanate from the Universal axis – the core of the physical known universe as described in his most recent book, The Purposeful Universe.

According to Dr. Calleman, alternating waves of universe core energy in turn are mediated through our galactic center and are what drive the evolution of human consciousness. Since the “Big Bang” 16 billion years ago, these waves of energy have been disseminated in alternating format of “boom” and “bust” creating the circumstance of conflict and uncertainty in our reality.

For example (Figure A), the beginning of the global economic downturn on Nov. 18, 2007 initiated a “contraction” period, followed by an “expansion” period starting Nov. 8, 2008 with the election of Barack Obama, followed by a contraction period with the fall of the U.S. dollar, starting Nov. 7, 2009.

On Nov. 2, 2010, and “expansion” period is scheduled to commence, characterized by the dissolution of hierarchies that have kept the human potential under unnecessary controls.

On Oct. 28, 2011 (Figure A), according to Dr. Calleman, the universal alternating energy wave movements end, and Earth is set on a gradual setting of a potential to reach advanced utopian planet status – a virtual “Garden of Eden”.

Dr. Calleman writes, “human consciousness will continue to be transformed step by step in accordance with this plan until we come to the real end date of the process of creation, October 28, 2011. At this date the highest quantum state of the universe will be attained (13.13.13.13.13.13.13.13.13 13 Ahau in the Mayan Calendar) when the shifts disrupting the harmony will come to an end. Obviously, we are not there yet.”

Revolutionary transformation: July 17 – November 2, 2010

Using the time acceleration matrix of the Mayan Calendar, Dr. Calleman predicts a specific period of July 17 – November 2, 2010, as the beginning of “revolutionary transformation”.

Calleman states, “Energetically speaking this time period, July 17- November 3, 2010…. What this revolutionary time period most likely is going to amount to is a corresponding decrease of governmental and national authority (not that of any particular government, but governmental authority as such, something which humanity has inherited from the National Wave Movement and its patriarchal frame of consciousness. Needless to say some would try to take advantage of such a situation). It will seriously come into question what we need governments and national borders for “when no soul shall have power (to do) aught for another.” My vision for the time period from [July 17- November 3, 2010] until the beginning of the [March 8, 2001 – October 28, 2011] period is thus a total overhaul of human civilization. This then would also be a time to make choices of path individually.”

Dr. Calleman compares potential for revolutionary transformation during this coming July – November 2010 period to certain periods during the Renaissance and the fall of the Berlin wall.

He writes, “Why would this particular time period, July 17, 2010 – November 2, 2010, bring such a revolutionary transformation? Well, there are two earlier time periods that are noteworthy as parallels to this upcoming one. One is AD 1498-1617, the Renaissance, which in a broad sense meant the overturning of the feudal system that saw the Vatican as the ultimate source of worldly power and the beginning of the modern era. The other is 1986-1992, which carried a revolutionary wave of democracy (including the fall of the Berlin Wall) resulting in a world whose hemispheres were no longer separated.”

further reading...
http://www.examiner.com/examiner/x-2...g-JulyNov-2010

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Old 01-22-2010, 01:20 PM   #214
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Oh no....not another date...!!

3rd Feb .... interesting though...



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One thing is for sure if a date is predicted, it definitely won't happen on that day
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Do you think that supposedly Dr. Greer is right, will we actually use that technology for mankind´s benefit or not?
Ha!
Right now, my impression leads me to believe we would go the way of the Krell.

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"Monsters from the id!"

You will get Santa, and the Easter Bunny in a cage match, on WWF wrestling, before the government willingly discloses. So I'd limit my speculation to some other avenue.

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Old 01-24-2010, 10:40 AM   #217
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Mmmm I wonder what these are???

These huge spherical UFO's started appearing around January 18, 2010. They are on both the forward and rear images taken by NASA's Stereo Spacecraft in space. They appear to be moving as they are in different positions on many photos. Remember these are huge possibly at least the size of Earth. Further, if they were planets or some type of huge asteroid comets, they would already have been pulled into the sun by the strong gravity the sun produces as in the case of the recent comet.

Notice also that they are reflecting the suns light just like a metal constructed ship would do.

My best guess is that they are huge planet sized spacecraft either observing the sun, or could it be that disclosure is now happening. Either way, I await NASA's official explanation. Please help to make this viral so that we can get this out to the world. This could finally be the evidence that NASA can't cover-up or ignore.

People asking for links so here's a current and this one shows SIX distinct anomalies. Truly awesome, and kind of puts that hot pixel malfunction theory to rest.



http://rense.com/general89/coron.htm

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Old 01-25-2010, 09:36 AM   #218
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I don't know what all these people want with "disclosure"?

Hey folks, that will NEVER happen!
Just imagine you would be the black government and by knowing all
these secrets you have fantastic advantages! In a dire situation, like an attack by nuclear Russia or a land invasion by the Chinese, you could ultimately defeat them with all these alien technology!

Your enemies finally have to rely on fossil fuels with their war vehicles, but you've anti-gravity and cold fusion!
Would you really disclose all that? And give anti-gravity for example to Iran?
So they could build any small vehicle and upgrade it with an anti-gravity propulsion and an a-bomb and then fly over to New York and nuke it?

And then all the legal problems, if you disclose, they will throw you in jail till death or fry you on the electric chair for all the things you and others did to keep it secret. Imagine the civil uproar! Our society would change radically if the people would finally get the full truth! 1789 2.0

And then there's also another aspect:
do you as the black government really know who the occupants of all these UFOs are? Perhaps you only know a fraction of them and there are hundreds of different races out there you still don't know!
And the ones you know, you engaged with and made treaties with could deceive you, as any power in history one engaged with before!

Just think of the Soviet Union, we allied with them in WW2, but before and after WW2 they always wanted to destroy us.
So you see the situation is so complex, no way anybody can dare to disclose the full truth, it would have terrible consequences!


Who knows who the "Aliens" really are?
They could be inter-solar, inter-stellar, inter-galaxian or inter-universal Aliens.
They could also be from a parallel planet, galaxy, universe.
They could be from another dimension.
They could be time-travellers.
They could be a human subterranean civilization. (no reptilians!)

There are so many possibilities, and the problem is, they could lie to us about every possibility, play a charade with us, deceive us!


And that's the crucial point:
I don't understand why Greer and alikes think that "Aliens" are always good,
all-loving space brothers?
To be highly developed does not mean to be angelic.
Just look at the highly developed USSR and USA and what they did in their history! We are so highly developed but still things like Abu Ghraib are possible.

And then Greers annoying esoteric attitude and alienphilia
"don't speak of Blondes, Greys, Reptilians... that's new racism"

Sorry, but if there are different races out there we've to recognize them.
How shall we understand them if we don't recognize the differences?
On earth you don't handle a Chinese like a Russian and a Russian you don't handle like a Muslim. It's just natural to look if there are different races out there and to find out how to handle them.

Greer really is in the mindset of the Aztecs and Mayans, who reacted to the conquering visitors only when it was already too late!
And their whole culture was destroyed.
That's why we have to distinguish them and find any information about them we can get. Greer is simply to blue-eyed, intentionally or unintentionally, but it fits to his weird esoteric attitude.


And referring to the video:
Why the hell has everyone who makes a video to use "Requiem for a dream" from Lord of the Rings?

And another thing:
Older body-builders look weird and creepy!




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Old 01-25-2010, 09:43 AM   #219
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hi folks take a peek at this thread

http://projectavalon.net/forum/showthread.php?t=19463

i wonder how much longer thay can keep this in the dark
but as to disclosure dates, i kind of feel that they will when they can no longer keep a lid on it from the masses. i dont think it will be of there choosing.
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Old 01-25-2010, 10:40 AM   #220
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I don't know what all these people want with "disclosure"?

Hey folks, that will NEVER happen!
Just imagine you would be the black government and by knowing all
these secrets you have fantastic advantages! In a dire situation, like an attack by nuclear Russia or a land invasion by the Chinese, you could ultimately defeat them with all these alien technology!

Your enemies finally have to rely on fossil fuels with their war vehicles, but you've anti-gravity and cold fusion!
Would you really disclose all that? And give anti-gravity for example to Iran?
So they could build any small vehicle and upgrade it with an anti-gravity propulsion and an a-bomb and then fly over to New York and nuke it?

And then all the legal problems, if you disclose, they will throw you in jail till death or fry you on the electric chair for all the things you and others did to keep it secret. Imagine the civil uproar! Our society would change radically if the people would finally get the full truth! 1789 2.0

And then there's also another aspect:
do you as the black government really know who the occupants of all these UFOs are? Perhaps you only know a fraction of them and there are hundreds of different races out there you still don't know!
And the ones you know, you engaged with and made treaties with could deceive you, as any power in history one engaged with before!

Just think of the Soviet Union, we allied with them in WW2, but before and after WW2 they always wanted to destroy us.
So you see the situation is so complex, no way anybody can dare to disclose the full truth, it would have terrible consequences!


Who knows who the "Aliens" really are?
They could be inter-solar, inter-stellar, inter-galaxian or inter-universal Aliens.
They could also be from a parallel planet, galaxy, universe.
They could be from another dimension.
They could be time-travellers.
They could be a human subterranean civilization. (no reptilians!)

There are so many possibilities, and the problem is, they could lie to us about every possibility, play a charade with us, deceive us!


And that's the crucial point:
I don't understand why Greer and alikes think that "Aliens" are always good,
all-loving space brothers?
To be highly developed does not mean to be angelic.
Just look at the highly developed USSR and USA and what they did in their history! We are so highly developed but still things like Abu Ghraib are possible.

And then Greers annoying esoteric attitude and alienphilia
"don't speak of Blondes, Greys, Reptilians... that's new racism"

Sorry, but if there are different races out there we've to recognize them.
How shall we understand them if we don't recognize the differences?
On earth you don't handle a Chinese like a Russian and a Russian you don't handle like a Muslim. It's just natural to look if there are different races out there and to find out how to handle them.

Greer really is in the mindset of the Aztecs and Mayans, who reacted to the conquering visitors only when it was already too late!
And their whole culture was destroyed.
That's why we have to distinguish them and find any information about them we can get. Greer is simply to blue-eyed, intentionally or unintentionally, but it fits to his weird esoteric attitude.


And referring to the video:
Why the hell has everyone who makes a video to use "Requiem for a dream" from Lord of the Rings?

And another thing:
Older body-builders look weird and creepy!




Hey Kinglear ... good post it made me chuckle...yes and you have some valid points and lots to think about...and I really don't know how they will eventually tell us...perhaps they won't and the ET's will disclose themselves...who knows...and at times I too think how the hell do they do this!!! Its bloody HUGE...you know this would cause THE shift...why should they??...WEll I beleive for the sake of mankind it has to happen with or without the Goverments consent...

Anyway I bumped into this on my travels...

Bulletin from Dr. Steven Greer

* Secretary of State Hillary Clinton and President Clinton's Administration were briefed on UFOs and extraterrestrial intelligence.

* Release of Clinton Library Documents shows proof of discussions with Laurance Rockefeller about revealing ET/UFO Truth to public, and briefings by Project Starlight, predecessor of the Disclosure Project.

* Dr. Greer can corroborate details of, and provide deep background to, this story.

It has recently been reported that Hillary Clinton met with Laurance Rockefeller at his Wyoming ranch in August 1995 to discuss his insistence that the government disclose the truth about ETs and UFOs, along with the resulting advanced technology back-engineered from their crafts (See: http://www.openminds.tv/hillary-clin...ok-discovered/).

I was present at Mr. Rockefeller's Wyoming estate in the fall of 1993 to discuss this matter and to plan briefings for the Clinton Administration. I also discussed this matter extensively with President Clinton's first CIA Director, R. James Woolsey in December of 1993.

Additionally, I discussed this matter in great depth with Paul Davies, the author of the book on UFOs Mrs. Clinton is seen holding in the pictures accompanying the article in the link above.

Further discussions occurred between myself and other Clinton Administration insiders. The focus of these discussions was Disclosure of the UFO secrets and establishing open, peaceful contact with the extraterrestrial civilizations visiting Earth.

- Steven M. Greer, M.D.

An AP article by Andrew DeMillo dated Nov. 14, 2007 entitled "Clinton Library Offers Peek at UFO Files," (http://www.disclosureproject.org/clintonlibrary.shtml) refers to FOIA documents released from the Clinton Library. One of these documents is a letter from "The Project Starlight Coalition" (the predecessor of Dr. Greer's Disclosure Project) signed by Dr. Steven Greer and others, urging President Clinton to declassify documents about extraterrestrials and UFOs.

This letter from The Project Starlight Coalition was the result of the historic Asilomar, California meeting that Dr. Greer organized and Laurance Rockefeller paid for in June of 1995, just before Clinton's meeting with Rockefeller in August 1995. The letter of response from the White House to Dr. Greer is also included among the documents. The documents are all stamped "CLINTON LIBRARY PHOTOCOPY."

Link to the Project Starlight letter and its White House response:
http://www.disclosureproject.org/Pro...tClinton.shtml

http://www.disclosureproject.org/New...uary242010.htm

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Old 01-28-2010, 10:20 AM   #221
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I had a strange feeling this morning that disclosure is close...This was in one of the mainstream papers...

They are waking people up slowly....



IT has been the subject of movies for decades - but what would REALLY happen if aliens visited earth?

This may sound like a topic for conspiracy theorists or mad UFO obsessives yet this week science's finest minds gathered in London to debate that very question.

Worryingly, it was suggested that if aliens did come calling, the result would be more Mars Attacks than ET.

The conference - The Detection Of Extraterrestrial Life And The Consequences For Science And Society - was held at the high-brow Royal Society HQ in central London.

Founded in 1660, the Society's members have included legendary scientific figures Isaac Newton, Albert Einstein and Stephen Hawking. This event, which I attended, included representatives of NASA, the European Space Agency and the UN Office For Outer Space Affairs. Lord Martin Rees, the Astronomer Royal and president of The Royal Society, chaired several sessions. A few years ago we had no evidence of any planets other than those in our solar system. Now we have discovered more than 400.

Radio telescopes scan the skies, listening for signals from extraterrestrial civilisation. We are looking and listening further into the universe than ever before, striving for the answer to the ultimate question: Is the universe teeming with life?

To find out the big issues the event addressed, see the headings below.

Friend or foe?


IF we find life, will they be friendly or here to exterminate us? Views are split.

It has been suggested that civilisations might willingly broadcast information - a sort of cosmic Facebook. Might we tap in and learn something helpful? Other experts pointed out it could be like our own history when a technologically advanced society has encountered a more primitive one - ending in violence.

Don't panic

IF we discover alien life, many people think there will be mass panic.

If we faced an invasion, clearly that would be true. But delegates suggested just an announcement of evidence of life would have little effect. Opinion polls already show large numbers of people believe in alien life. Add to this sci-fi movies embedding the idea of aliens in our minds and there isn't a problem. In 1996 NASA announced they had found a Martian meteorite with evidence of life.

President Clinton made a speech, David Bowie's Life On Mars got a lot of airplay, but life just went on.

further reading...
http://www.thesun.co.uk/sol/homepage...hip-to-ET.html

ps...I don't normaly read the Sun !!

edit
A very nice young lady just placed this on my page!!!


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Old 03-16-2010, 09:56 AM   #222
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As if they don't already know!!!! Vatican conference about Aliens??



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