Canada & Germany, are holding up the best !!!

[THE eXchanger]

Did you have high hopes for Obama ?

The following may excite or disappoint.

Either way,

it paints a picture of a shrinking pie...

love/susan-the eXchanger


Timmy, Larry and Benny are Lost
in the Fiscal Wilderness

The abomination of Obamanation will prolong economic pain; stretching out damage into many years of fiscal malaise driving wealth from critically needed investments into business friendly foreign lands. Those with the bucks are moving away. Handwriting is on the wall. Economically destructive Californian trends demonstrate where this once proud nation goes next. We are sinking into a dumbed-down cesspool of despair; into a land of drooling liberals, tossing around cash with abandon. Not being satisfied with the $800 Billion they just slammed this week, they propose much more for health care. We are spiraling down a rat hole with no bottom into a pit of depression.

“…George Soros said last Friday the world financial system has effectively disintegrated, adding … there is yet no prospect of a near-term resolution to the crisis. Soros said the turbulence is actually more severe than during the Great Depression, comparing the current situation to the demise of the Soviet Union. His comments echoed those made earlier at the same conference by Paul Volcker, a former Federal Reserve chairman who is now a top adviser to President Barack Obama, Volcker said industrial production around the world was declining even more rapidly than in the United States, which is itself under severe strain.”

–Pedro Nicolaci da Costa and Juan Lagorio-Reuters.


The Senate version of TARP II, on the news wires is filled with preposterous proposals many bordering on sheer communism. Let’s see what these people are thinking with a quick review:

1. The Acorn organization currently under investigation for voter fraud is set-up in the TARP II bill to receive millions of dollars under the guise of the community block grants’ program. It appears to us their primary goal in life is to steal votes and fix elections.

2. The Mexican border is wide open with massive violence on both sides as an innocent rancher was sued for protecting his property and holding illegal, criminal immigrants for the police. We heard this week he got nailed with a $68,000 fine. Apparently you are not allowed to protect your own property any longer in America without legal retribution.

3. The latest health care proposal from the failed nomination tax scofflaw from North Dakota (proposed for Secretary of Health and Human Services) demands the federal government be given all health care records of all US citizens under penalty of criminal prosecution. Now the entire world can read your personal health care records.

4. Our new Treasury Secretary made a zero-details speech on how TARP II was supposed to work. With his nervousness and furtive looks he appears to be the crook-front man for criminal bankers. He wants your tax dollars with no details or strings attached. Little Timmy is not only not qualified for his job, like our new president, but appears to be guilty as hell in covering for banksters. After his empty speech he ran to Rome, Italy for G-20 meetings to hide. There is no question this man is unqualified for anything except to push PPT buttons to prop the S&P’s and give orders to sell gold as in his former job as New York Federal Reserve Governor.

5. The Obama Bailout Plan is miniscule on tax relief (which is the fastest way toward an economic healing) and heavy on infrastructure construction; not job viable for many years. Most of the other stuff is just political pork and taxpayer theft. This is a historical taxpayer robbery; a hold-up of epic proportions. And, the worst is, they are just getting started.

6. A new socialist-flaming liberal is being nominated to a lesser judicial position setting him up for a post in the United States Supreme Court. His specialty is denying children’s rights. Imagine how this dude votes on things that reflect other widespread very important rulings.

7. Iran and Russia are closing in for the kill on America, economically and otherwise as they understand Obama is a babe in the political woods. At least Biden was right on one thing-the bigger presidential test from our enemies is coming sooner rather than later. Dictator Putin is changing Russian constitutional rules positioning himself for 12 more years of power.

8. The Obama press conference two week’s ago had seating arrangements to exclude those who oppose his views. He will only be taking questions from far left wing reporters friendly to the administration. Others can only sit and watch in this deliberate denial of free speech.

9. Obama’s right hand henchman has taken census reporting from its rightful space in the Commerce Department directly into the White House. This means that in secret, the congressional districts can be manipulated and illegally gerrymandered to skew-steal future elections from 2010 forward. This also sets-up favored voting districts to receive more billions in pork by the administration to the detriment of the opposing party and their voters.

10. Sneaker Pelosi in the handling of the TARP II plan excluded the Republican Party from any participation in offering any bill ideas. Instead of working together in a bi-partisan fashion as the president suggested, the Speaker shut-out the Republicans and designed TARP II with only ideas filled with pork from her party. When asked about it she said the Republicans did not have any good ideas to offer. Wonder what we get in TARP’s lll, lV, V, etc.?

11. Now, this last Wednesday morning, we learn Speaker Pelosi wanted to impose a windfall profits tax on all retirees to steal their pension money for government and make us all equal.

12. Obviously many of these disastrous ideas will never pass but this is the gang we now have running America. We predict major economic messes ahead in spring and fall of 2009 and in 2010. These kinds of ideas create Boston Tea Parties or, something much worse. I fear for my country as these Neo-Nazi-Fascist suggestions are brought more and more to the forefront of American politics. We’ve not been predicting Armageddon but now have to wonder.

13. When our esteemed Treasury Secretary made his little non-detail speech, the stock markets immediately sold-off and the Dow at one point was off nearly -400 points. Traders and investors do not like what they saw and heard and voted with their trades by selling. The stock markets’ weakness has prevailed despite technical oversold indicators. We still predict the Obama Bounce but the strength and power is trending to the weak side.

14. While stocks sold off, bond prices recovered from selling and posted a nice price increase. Gold and silver, which have technically completed a new five wave rally are consolidating in a profit taking correction prior to the next rally. The next PM rallies, probably concluding in mid-March, might be higher and faster with more strength.

15. The U.S. Dollar being so over-printed and diluted is poised for a continuation of longer term selling. Our many months low index forecast for the dollar has been 46.00 with a fall from 87.00, basically cutting its value in half again. One of the best analysts we know just cut his dollar forecast to 40.00 on the technicals. Now, we are thinking he is more correct than our number. We need new updates but know this gentleman’s work and find it always accurate.

16. While TARP II has some funds included for helping those out of work and hungry, we suggest that even though the money will be available for this badly needed support, most of the money-help will never arrive in time due to the disorganization and stupidity of bureaurats. We predict a very long and hot summer in major cities of the U.S and overseas with food riots; higher criminal activity and a marked lack of response by governments paralyzed with inaction. They have the resources to help but cannot make the right moves.

17. With national U.S. un-employment moving toward 20% (unacknowledged) and millions more being fired or laid-off, social problems in the United States will turn into unprecedented violence. This will continue for at least the next 2-3 years, growing ever more, nasty. The 1930’s disaster was prolonged by the government interference of FDR lasting 15 years with unemployment still over 20% in 1939. Look for a repeat with much worse numbers.

18. Europe and China, as we have predicted, is ahead of these disasters on the time-line. Over 20mm Chinese farmers brought to the cities to work are laid-off and heading back to neglected farms smashed by expanding drought. In Europe, the U.K. is ready to economically implode and riots are spreading over Spain, Greece, Holland, France, Portugal and others. We forecast Europe falls first in chaos with China second and then parts of South America. America has a very bad May just ahead in markets but the late September, early October, fall will be an unmitigated disaster. Those duel dates hit us again in 2010 for perhaps a potential bottom.

19. The fabulous recovery of Ireland after government tax reductions to 12% has fallen to pieces. U.S. bad derivative paper sold to Ireland and the encouragement of cheap housing loans and easy credit for the Irish citizens has done them in. They plan to exit the Euroland experiment. Others will follow with the Euro eventually disappearing as Europe’s nations revert to protectionism while using their old currencies. The Euroland experiment is toast.

20. Switzerland is now at risk as 200mm in Swiss Francs were loaned to Eastern European nations and they cannot pay it back nor roll-over the loans. The Swiss loaned a portion of this directly but most of these loans were made by other central banks of Western Europe. In the end, the Swiss currency has major exposure overall.

21. Germany and Canada are holding up the best. We think Germany will dump Euroland leaving them to their own devices and in economic mayhem. Canada has Ontario manufacturing problems but will generally do better than most. This is not a pretty picture world-wide.

22. Last and most scary of all, president Obama signed an executive order permitting wide-open immigration of Hamas Palestinians into the USA. Bad guys just got the USA front door keys.

In our view, the American nation can withstand stupid politicians and a major prolonged depression. Over-priced assets will be written down and restructured. The large investment banks will be nationalized but be disguised as being stand-alone companies. The IMF, Federal Reserve, U.S. Treasury are all in cahoots to keep the big banks “private” so they can continue with the same old game robbing the world using inflation and lending tricks.

The larger question is, “Do we maintain our nation with the rules set down by the U.S. Constitution and Bill of Rights, or will current events drive us beyond Fascism-Light into a dictatorship?” New gun rules are being proposed to take control of the millions of guns out there in the United States. We think if this rule passes we all go over the line and something much worse transpires with speed.

Will the Tree of Liberty need refreshing once again? There are millions of Bubbas out there ready to go, to fight for freedom. Once it starts heaven help us. –Traderrog

In Trader Tracks, we provide weekly guidance and extra e-mail alerts to report our best new trades and offer suggestions for trade management. Visit our website at webeatthestreet.com for more information on our spectacular futures and commodities trading record.



Roger Wiegand
Editor Trader Tracks Newsletter
& The Rog Blog at webeatthestreet.com
from:

http://www.kitco.com/ind/Wieg_cor/roger_feb262009.html

[Antaletriangle]

From reading that Canada will have to watch out on it's borders for US citizens making the jump.

[Czymra]

I don't see how Germany could drop the Euro and isolate itself. It's in the middle of the continent and lives only off export.

[Dantheman62]

I'd be in Canada already if it wasn't so damn cold all the time, even in the summer it's what I call cold!

[THE eXchanger]

it is whatever temperature you want to set it, inside

it's really NOT all that bad (3/4 of the year, is pretty darn good)

do like a lot of canadians do -- head to a warm climate for 3 months a year

i used to go to hawaii from 1984 - and, for quite a few years, every year

[THE eXchanger]

where do you think the "green heart" is ???

[Dantheman62]

True, set the temp whatever you want inside, but I like it hot with a little humidity, not hot and dry like what the furnace puts out. I know I'm just being a little picky but really Georgia where I live now, is to far north. LOL! I don't know, I need to think on it some more.

[Northern Boy]

Originally Posted by Dantheman62

True, set the temp whatever you want inside, but I like it hot with a little humidity, not hot and dry like what the furnace puts out. I know I'm just being a little picky but really Georgia where I live now, is to far north. LOL! I don't know, I need to think on it some more.

Then Move to the Windsor Ontario Area Hot and Humid in the summer time with temps around 75 with no humidity to 98 with, lots of golf but no Augusta

[Dantheman62]

Ha, no Augusta, that's funny, isn't Windsor right across from Detroit, kind of?
I was really thinking Vancouver if anywhere, I wonder how the winters are out there because they're so close to the ocean? Seattle is fairly mild, just rains a lot in the winter so I assume Vancouver would be close to the same. hmmm

[waitinginthewings]

Originally Posted by Dantheman62

Ha, no Augusta, that's funny, isn't Windsor right across from Detroit, kind of?
I was really thinking Vancouver if anywhere, I wonder how the winters are out there because they're so close to the ocean? Seattle is fairly mild, just rains a lot in the winter so I assume Vancouver would be close to the same. hmmm

Vancouver gets lots of rain all year. This winter they have had lots of snow & very little rain, very unusual for them. The city came to a standstill from a snowstorm, as they don't have the snow removal equipment to deal with it.

2010 games coming up....good time to visit and check it out.

My concern about Vancouver, is the possibility of a major earthquake?

[chitty]

-30 C here right now With 2 feet of snow.

[waitinginthewings]

Originally Posted by chitty

-30 C here right now With 2 feet of snow.

Got your long-johns, ear muffs, mitts........and a hot toddy, and you will survive. -39C.......brrrrrrrrrrrrr....I have experiences those temps. My sympathies to you chitty.

[chitty]

Thanks for that WITW PS: Long johns stay on all year

[THE eXchanger]

- a lot of us, stay inside,
burn logs, drink wine, and, stay inside
unless, we are dressed to go outside,
and, have fun in the snow

here today, it was almost like spring

march 15 -- is the start of spring - since the groundhog saw its shadow

canada is, one of the best countries in the world

fresh water/and, lots of it - more than anywhere else, on the planet

(i once went out to vancouver for 6 weeks-and, decided NOT to stay there, a friend had been there, for 1 year, and, they hated all the rain, they said, it made their bones ache) although, it is pretty

maybe further north, around atlin lake, about 1 hour from yellowhorse,
would be nice

one of my friends, went to that new province to work,
she got 3 times, her normal wages, and, a $2500/mo living expense

very few poisonous animals - rattlesnakes -
and, artic viper snakes but, they hide from people
and, probably come out of their dens to mate/and, eat once a year

the cold kills germs / so, that is good

AS, I SAID, 9 months a year, are pretty darn good

something nice about 75 degrees / low humidity

and, you can stay in, and, put fire logs into the fireplace

i kind of love it here, however, this is where i grew up

[Dantheman62]

I forgot about possible earthquakes near Vancouver area, and Chitty, I might as well live in North Dakota, which isn't going to happen! LOL! And I'm sorry but 75 in the summer is not enough, I'd still have to wear a jacket. I guess I'll have to stay south, and have considered Mexico but with all the drug shootings and stuff going on, that's out!
Wow I grew up in northern Minnesota but just spent to many years in Florida which really spoiled me more than I realize I guess. hmmm

[oldpaganfreak]

-35c right now, but it was a sparkling bright win ter day.
the CBC announced today the profits for 2 of the top canadain banks. profits are down, but still in the billions. we do seem to be riding safer so far.

[THE eXchanger]

- there are no lineups of people pulling their money out of the banks

the federal reserve board/don't own the canadian banks

the banks say the gov't own them ?

hmmm-- something to perhaps explore

and, if the people are the gov't

i guess we all must own
the canada corporation
that is registered in district of columbia

maybe secretly we are all rich

[Humble Janitor]

Originally Posted by eXchanger

Did you have high hopes for Obama ?

The following may excite or disappoint.

Either way,

it paints a picture of a shrinking pie...

love/susan-the eXchanger


Timmy, Larry and Benny are Lost
in the Fiscal Wilderness

The abomination of Obamanation will prolong economic pain; stretching out damage into many years of fiscal malaise driving wealth from critically needed investments into business friendly foreign lands. Those with the bucks are moving away. Handwriting is on the wall. Economically destructive Californian trends demonstrate where this once proud nation goes next. We are sinking into a dumbed-down cesspool of despair; into a land of drooling liberals, tossing around cash with abandon. Not being satisfied with the $800 Billion they just slammed this week, they propose much more for health care. We are spiraling down a rat hole with no bottom into a pit of depression.

“…George Soros said last Friday the world financial system has effectively disintegrated, adding … there is yet no prospect of a near-term resolution to the crisis. Soros said the turbulence is actually more severe than during the Great Depression, comparing the current situation to the demise of the Soviet Union. His comments echoed those made earlier at the same conference by Paul Volcker, a former Federal Reserve chairman who is now a top adviser to President Barack Obama, Volcker said industrial production around the world was declining even more rapidly than in the United States, which is itself under severe strain.”

–Pedro Nicolaci da Costa and Juan Lagorio-Reuters.


The Senate version of TARP II, on the news wires is filled with preposterous proposals many bordering on sheer communism. Let’s see what these people are thinking with a quick review:

1. The Acorn organization currently under investigation for voter fraud is set-up in the TARP II bill to receive millions of dollars under the guise of the community block grants’ program. It appears to us their primary goal in life is to steal votes and fix elections.

2. The Mexican border is wide open with massive violence on both sides as an innocent rancher was sued for protecting his property and holding illegal, criminal immigrants for the police. We heard this week he got nailed with a $68,000 fine. Apparently you are not allowed to protect your own property any longer in America without legal retribution.

3. The latest health care proposal from the failed nomination tax scofflaw from North Dakota (proposed for Secretary of Health and Human Services) demands the federal government be given all health care records of all US citizens under penalty of criminal prosecution. Now the entire world can read your personal health care records.

4. Our new Treasury Secretary made a zero-details speech on how TARP II was supposed to work. With his nervousness and furtive looks he appears to be the crook-front man for criminal bankers. He wants your tax dollars with no details or strings attached. Little Timmy is not only not qualified for his job, like our new president, but appears to be guilty as hell in covering for banksters. After his empty speech he ran to Rome, Italy for G-20 meetings to hide. There is no question this man is unqualified for anything except to push PPT buttons to prop the S&P’s and give orders to sell gold as in his former job as New York Federal Reserve Governor.

5. The Obama Bailout Plan is miniscule on tax relief (which is the fastest way toward an economic healing) and heavy on infrastructure construction; not job viable for many years. Most of the other stuff is just political pork and taxpayer theft. This is a historical taxpayer robbery; a hold-up of epic proportions. And, the worst is, they are just getting started.

6. A new socialist-flaming liberal is being nominated to a lesser judicial position setting him up for a post in the United States Supreme Court. His specialty is denying children’s rights. Imagine how this dude votes on things that reflect other widespread very important rulings.

7. Iran and Russia are closing in for the kill on America, economically and otherwise as they understand Obama is a babe in the political woods. At least Biden was right on one thing-the bigger presidential test from our enemies is coming sooner rather than later. Dictator Putin is changing Russian constitutional rules positioning himself for 12 more years of power.

8. The Obama press conference two week’s ago had seating arrangements to exclude those who oppose his views. He will only be taking questions from far left wing reporters friendly to the administration. Others can only sit and watch in this deliberate denial of free speech.

9. Obama’s right hand henchman has taken census reporting from its rightful space in the Commerce Department directly into the White House. This means that in secret, the congressional districts can be manipulated and illegally gerrymandered to skew-steal future elections from 2010 forward. This also sets-up favored voting districts to receive more billions in pork by the administration to the detriment of the opposing party and their voters.

10. Sneaker Pelosi in the handling of the TARP II plan excluded the Republican Party from any participation in offering any bill ideas. Instead of working together in a bi-partisan fashion as the president suggested, the Speaker shut-out the Republicans and designed TARP II with only ideas filled with pork from her party. When asked about it she said the Republicans did not have any good ideas to offer. Wonder what we get in TARP’s lll, lV, V, etc.?

11. Now, this last Wednesday morning, we learn Speaker Pelosi wanted to impose a windfall profits tax on all retirees to steal their pension money for government and make us all equal.

12. Obviously many of these disastrous ideas will never pass but this is the gang we now have running America. We predict major economic messes ahead in spring and fall of 2009 and in 2010. These kinds of ideas create Boston Tea Parties or, something much worse. I fear for my country as these Neo-Nazi-Fascist suggestions are brought more and more to the forefront of American politics. We’ve not been predicting Armageddon but now have to wonder.

13. When our esteemed Treasury Secretary made his little non-detail speech, the stock markets immediately sold-off and the Dow at one point was off nearly -400 points. Traders and investors do not like what they saw and heard and voted with their trades by selling. The stock markets’ weakness has prevailed despite technical oversold indicators. We still predict the Obama Bounce but the strength and power is trending to the weak side.

14. While stocks sold off, bond prices recovered from selling and posted a nice price increase. Gold and silver, which have technically completed a new five wave rally are consolidating in a profit taking correction prior to the next rally. The next PM rallies, probably concluding in mid-March, might be higher and faster with more strength.

15. The U.S. Dollar being so over-printed and diluted is poised for a continuation of longer term selling. Our many months low index forecast for the dollar has been 46.00 with a fall from 87.00, basically cutting its value in half again. One of the best analysts we know just cut his dollar forecast to 40.00 on the technicals. Now, we are thinking he is more correct than our number. We need new updates but know this gentleman’s work and find it always accurate.

16. While TARP II has some funds included for helping those out of work and hungry, we suggest that even though the money will be available for this badly needed support, most of the money-help will never arrive in time due to the disorganization and stupidity of bureaurats. We predict a very long and hot summer in major cities of the U.S and overseas with food riots; higher criminal activity and a marked lack of response by governments paralyzed with inaction. They have the resources to help but cannot make the right moves.

17. With national U.S. un-employment moving toward 20% (unacknowledged) and millions more being fired or laid-off, social problems in the United States will turn into unprecedented violence. This will continue for at least the next 2-3 years, growing ever more, nasty. The 1930’s disaster was prolonged by the government interference of FDR lasting 15 years with unemployment still over 20% in 1939. Look for a repeat with much worse numbers.

18. Europe and China, as we have predicted, is ahead of these disasters on the time-line. Over 20mm Chinese farmers brought to the cities to work are laid-off and heading back to neglected farms smashed by expanding drought. In Europe, the U.K. is ready to economically implode and riots are spreading over Spain, Greece, Holland, France, Portugal and others. We forecast Europe falls first in chaos with China second and then parts of South America. America has a very bad May just ahead in markets but the late September, early October, fall will be an unmitigated disaster. Those duel dates hit us again in 2010 for perhaps a potential bottom.

19. The fabulous recovery of Ireland after government tax reductions to 12% has fallen to pieces. U.S. bad derivative paper sold to Ireland and the encouragement of cheap housing loans and easy credit for the Irish citizens has done them in. They plan to exit the Euroland experiment. Others will follow with the Euro eventually disappearing as Europe’s nations revert to protectionism while using their old currencies. The Euroland experiment is toast.

20. Switzerland is now at risk as 200mm in Swiss Francs were loaned to Eastern European nations and they cannot pay it back nor roll-over the loans. The Swiss loaned a portion of this directly but most of these loans were made by other central banks of Western Europe. In the end, the Swiss currency has major exposure overall.

21. Germany and Canada are holding up the best. We think Germany will dump Euroland leaving them to their own devices and in economic mayhem. Canada has Ontario manufacturing problems but will generally do better than most. This is not a pretty picture world-wide.

22. Last and most scary of all, president Obama signed an executive order permitting wide-open immigration of Hamas Palestinians into the USA. Bad guys just got the USA front door keys.

In our view, the American nation can withstand stupid politicians and a major prolonged depression. Over-priced assets will be written down and restructured. The large investment banks will be nationalized but be disguised as being stand-alone companies. The IMF, Federal Reserve, U.S. Treasury are all in cahoots to keep the big banks “private” so they can continue with the same old game robbing the world using inflation and lending tricks.

The larger question is, “Do we maintain our nation with the rules set down by the U.S. Constitution and Bill of Rights, or will current events drive us beyond Fascism-Light into a dictatorship?” New gun rules are being proposed to take control of the millions of guns out there in the United States. We think if this rule passes we all go over the line and something much worse transpires with speed.

Will the Tree of Liberty need refreshing once again? There are millions of Bubbas out there ready to go, to fight for freedom. Once it starts heaven help us. –Traderrog

In Trader Tracks, we provide weekly guidance and extra e-mail alerts to report our best new trades and offer suggestions for trade management. Visit our website at webeatthestreet.com for more information on our spectacular futures and commodities trading record.



Roger Wiegand
Editor Trader Tracks Newsletter
& The Rog Blog at webeatthestreet.com
from:

http://www.kitco.com/ind/Wieg_cor/roger_feb262009.html

You're going to have to excuse me here, eXchanger. I feel a rant coming on and it's not going to be pretty.

First of all, this is more typical right-wing spiel, especially the "socialist-flaming liberal" part. Was that really necessary?

Second of all, What does this fool expect to accomplish with name-calling? Seriously, does he really think that he's helping the problem by singling out those flaming liberals and calling Pelosi a Squeaker?

Third of all, how do we benefit from reading this garbage? It's the same old **** being repeated by the right-wing talking parrots (ACORN, tax cuts, etc).

I'm not saying that Obama should be protected all the time but jesus christ, aren't we the shining example of people when we pass along counter-productive garbage like this.

Tax cuts? We've had 8 years of those. Look at the economy. Instead of blaming Obama's plan, where's the blame for Bush?

I'm sorry. This **** grates on my nerves and again with the name-calling from the right-wing bullies. What do we have to gain from this?

"Rog" should do something more productive than list the same old **** that we've been hearing for a while now.

And that claim about Republicans being left in the dark? Total ******* ********! They refused and still refuse to work with Obama so therefore, they have no right to bitch and moan!

I'm simply sick of partisan bickering from BOTH sides. This is why I no longer post at DailyKos.

I thought we are above this stuff? Politics is but a game and the more you play into it, the harder it is to think straight.

Neither wing has offered a solution that will help most if not all Americans and as long as people continue to pull the lever, "Rog" will continue to have ammunition. It's a never-ending downward spiral.

Again, politics is just a game: a game controlled by TPTB that we all must stop playing if we are to survive.

[alyscat]

Yep, Humble Janitor, my thoughts exactly. Thanks.
alys

[THE eXchanger]

we need to kiss goodbye what was,
so, we can step into
what is, and, what can be

you see, if you have your teeth stuck in 3D
it's hard to get your feet, into something more

[Humble Janitor]

Originally Posted by eXchanger

we need to kiss goodbye what was,
so, we can step into
what is, and, what can be

you see, if you have your teeth stuck in 3D
it's hard to get your feet, into something more

Indeed. I'm glad you didn't take it personal as I never intended that part.

I used to be a rabid socialist but it's a waste of time to settle on one field of politics. I think that we can rise above politics as well. I listened to the Red Army's version of the Russian National Anthem daily. I read Chomsky and Zinn (though nowadays, I still respect them even if I no longer follow them blindly) often in my early 20s. By my mid 20s, I had settled more into a progressive Democrat role.

Nowadays, I'm not sure where I stand.

[Angel in Disguise]

Exchanger... I finally gave in and signed up because I've been biting my tongue for so long just reading, and you just broke my camel's back ... You have given so much of your time informing so many of us on a daily basis... I truly appreciate your efforts and want you to know that you are EXACTLY correct!...
We ARE all millionaires and don't even know it... We DO own shares in this corporation called CANADA and I believe we SHOULD be allowed to collect!!! Check out Robert Arthur Menards work... He explains this exactly!

[Angel in Disguise]

Let me try and explain in short form...

When we are born we are given a birth certificate which has a number on it, this number represents our 'bond' tracking number and allows the fed to create let's say a million dollar credit considering we will make a million dollars in our lifetime and probably spend twice as much... Hence the credit crisis... On top of that because we are shareholders in the corporation of Canada they are collecting what righteously belongs to us... Double whammy!
And if you consider that we pay back interest on money that is created out of our names... meanwhile making them filthy freakin rich from collecting our shares and not even being aware of it... WELL... That's three strikes and we are out to lunch wouldn't ya say??? It's about time people knew this!!!

[J_rod7]

*******
***
*

Ya know, about 5-years back, I looked into immigrating to Canada.

BAD NEWS for anyone turning 55 or more = YOU CAN'T GET THERE FROM HERE

It doesn't matter how much money you may have saved in a lifetime of hard work in good paying jobs.

It doesn't matter how much education you have, i.e. college grad, bilingual in English AND French, A strong Technical background, an honest decent tax-paying citizen all of your life.

NONE OF ANY OF THIS MATTERS.!!!

The AGE-LIMIT EXCLUDES EVERYONE OVER 55 FROM EVEN APPLYING FOR IMMIGRATION.

Oh, sure, they wouldn't mind if you drop over their border to buy some pharmaceuticals. Spend some money, then GET-OUT

I think Canada is THE WORST for discrimination.

*******
***
*

[THE eXchanger]

- YOU could MARRY a canadian / and-or,

start a business here

if you buy property- they allow you in

although, you might have to cross out of canada/and, come back in
once every 6 months

yup--although my family, was chased / and, ran out of russia/poland/france/
wales/cornwall/ireland and, germany
in the 1800's - there, was one, a great explorer who came here
in the 1700's ---
everyone in my family, says
canada is the best darn country in all the world
and, i have to agree with them
(although, New Zealand - is probably my 2nd choice)
got to love a place you can put on your bikini and go to the ocean,
and, ski, in the same day
+ xxx