Discussion Of Mass Drugging of Society with Lithium

[Fredkc]

Mods;
Please move to Health section if that would be a better place for this.

Disclaimer!!
To say that I am not a fan of Alex Jones, is a gross understatement. But I came across this story this morning, and so far, all links to this seem to lead there. If the posting there did not include the local FOX affiliate's video, I would have gone by this, but since it does...

http://www.prisonplanet.com/fox-news...h-lithium.html


Wednesday, December 16, 2009 In the remarkable Fox News report posted below, Dr. Archelle Georgiou, described as a well-recognized physician leader who “helps consumers make better health care decisions,” argues the case for adding lithium to the water supply. Georgiou is affiliated with the Center for Health Transformation, an organization founded by the notorious neocon Newt Gingrich.

Georgiou is also a “medical expert” for Fox News 9 in Minneapolis where she commented on a proposal to drug people during a segment on “Health Care Innovations 2009.”

“Lithium in the Water Supply: America has been adding fluoride to its public water supplies for decades to help prevent reduce tooth decay. Now researchers from Japan suggests expanding the list to lithium,” is how how Fox News 9 describes the segment.


[AT ORIGINAL LINK, THE LOCAL FOX AFFILIATE VIDEO IS HERE - Fred]




Georgiou does not explicitly call for adding the mood-stabilizing drug to the water system, as suggested by Japanese researchers, but she does not denounce the proposed practice. Instead, she says the draconian proposal is a “very interesting concept.”


Japanese researchers, according to Georgiou, are “investigating whether trace amounts of lithium can just change the mood in a community enough — in a really positive way without having the bad effects of lithium — to really affect the mood and decrease the suicide rate.”
Remarkably, Georgiou does not address the moral issue of forcibly drugging a population into submission.


On May 1, the BBC reported on the Japanese research. “Researchers examined levels of lithium in drinking water and suicide rates in the prefecture of Oita, which has a population of more than one million. The suicide rate was significantly lower in those areas with the highest levels of the element, they wrote in the British Journal of Psychiatry.”
Scientists are not certain how lithium works in the brain. “Lithium increases the amount of neurotransmitters such as serotonin, which can help stabilize both the manic and depressive sides of the disorder, but the exact method behind this is still under investigation,” notes Discovery News.


Apparently the unresolved scientific aspects of lithium were not a concern in the Japanese research. (Story continues...)

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Anyway...
I wonder if they'll even bother to tell the public they are all on "mood elevators", even though, "Scientists are not certain how lithium works in the brain."

Can anyone else find an alternate source for this?

Fred

[Steven]

To me, just having the idea to add lithium, fluoride or any other chemical in the water is absurd. The impact on the global environment haven't been measured and will not be. It does not take much of understanding that it would once more destabilize the fragile harmony of nature and the first to pay the price will be the mammals once again.

It is like the idea of spreading aluminum into the atmosphere to reflect the sun's rays. Completely ridiculous.

These ideas are so ridiculous, it must hide a hidden intention...

Namaste, Steven

[Fredkc]

These ideas are so ridicule, it must hide a hidden intention...

Not much "hidden" to it, really, since Lithium is basically "Thorazine-Lite".

It is a mood elevator given to people who are bi-polar, schizophrenic, and such.

Additional quotes:

“All of this comes down to the mass medication of the public with trace amounts of prescription drugs. In another words, if you’re drinking tap water that’s tainted with these drugs, you’re getting a little bit of Prozac whether you like it or not,” remarks Mike Adams, the Health Ranger.

Lithium has well-documented harmful effects. It is known to be responsible for significant amounts of weight gain and reduces the activity of thyroid hormone. It is also believed to affect renal function.

This one is very interesting:

Research conducted in Texas from 1978-1987 revealed lower incidences of crime, suicide, and arrest when lithium is present in water, according to PubMed. “These results suggest that lithium has moderating effects on suicidal and violent criminal behavior at levels that may be encountered in municipal water supplies.”

Haven't followed the link yet, but it seems they've already experimented on the public, concerning this.

Fred

[futureyes]

what other cattle herding ideas can they come up with which go against our free will ...

this is appalling and absurd ... but what i fear ... is the sheeple somehow believing this would be beneficial to them ... once again ... not thinking for their selves ... but rather following the agenda seekers ...

let's hope not ...

[hollylindin]

Obviously, this is ridiculous. Yet another desperate attempt that will never come to fruition. Speaking of, does anyone even DRINK the water from their taps anymore?! I know I don't, so I'm wondering.

<3

[waitinginthewings]

To me the intent here is very clear. As things start to fall apart in the US, they are preparing to subdue the population, so there will not be a revolution. Drug the masses & there will be no problem to deal with. Once they are subdued, it is much easier to manipulate & command them to do what you want of them.

You can be assured that they have already done their experiments in their underground labs with lithium & they already know what the results will be. So no need for tests above ground........now its just a matter of when they will go ahead & start this latest attack against humanity.

[burgundia]

Maybe the information about it should be spread around as it was done with the swine flu vaccine scheme...

[hollylindin]

I think we should stay as positive as possible here. Sure, the people behind this have been really nefarious and "evil" to even THINK these things up! But without them and the ridiculousness they're bringing to the table, perhaps none of us would feel the need to revolt and start thinking for ourselves!

Besides that, when reports came out (in FEBRUARY.) of them making swine flu vaccinations mandatory, most of all in the States, I was a little scared and upset. But then the vaccinations come along, and they AREN'T mandatory - and yes, there are still sheeple herding up to get their shot, but I think that our consciousness about it and staying positive, optimistic, and filled with love and light helped to stave off the worse possible scenario. I've always been a hopeful person, and I think all of us hopeful optimists have helped to change the direction of these things.

<3

[futureyes]

once upon a time ... not that long ago ... their agendas used to be cleverly hidden ...
soon enough ... the truth of such began to surface ...
and we have observed how they ran around ... seeking cover ...
but their cloaks ... could no longer cover what they hide ...
and now ... more obvious have their agendas become ...
they seem to be like cornered animals ... snarling and still demanding control ...
oblivious to the fact of how much wiser we are becoming ...
and standing up to these beasts ...
and saying ... enough is enough ...

lithium now?

[Stardustaquarion]

Lithium is really bad for one's pineal gland, tyroid and thymus; it has lots of side effects like becoming zoombified...particularly lethal for sensitive persons

Does anyone know if distiling water removes lithium? I have a very good filter but doubt it will remove lithium

Love

[waitinginthewings]

Originally Posted by Stardustaquarion

Lithium is really bad for one's pineal gland, tyroid and thymus; it has lots of side effects like becoming zoombified...particularly lethal for sensitive persons

Does anyone know if distiling water removes lithium? I have a very good filter but doubt it will remove lithium

Love

zombefied....thank you....thats what I was referring to in my post above as in subdued.

We are constantly being challenged now to stay 1 step ahead of them. Interesting question stardust... if they go ahead with this, how do we get clean water, if all the water supply is drugged. This is much easier for them to do than vaccinating the population, who refuse to be vaccinated.

[Scarab]

Free will.

[pyrangello]

There's also a mass campaign on TV to take as many drugs as possible, to help you sleep, help your bones, have sex, it's hillarious when they start reading all the side effects that could happen and then your like -why would I take that? However nice background scenery and music making it more soothing to the soul. I do like the Viagra jingle with the guitars though LOL. Ah yes Project Avalon members dismembering the brainwash campaign bit by bit.

And we do use lithium here, it's an automobile grease in a can.

[Fredkc]

zombified....

Good description.

I have had two friends in this life, who've had it prescribed, and spoken to a few others. Universally hated.

The side effects are such that, in one woman's case, even though it meant the difference between being able to hold a job - living an otherwise normal life, or living on the dole, she chose not to continue taking it.

Naturally the response would come that, "We aren't talking about doses in that strength." but here you are merely being treated to the "ethics" of the "educated ignorant" in my opinion. You're also then allowing it to be hijacked for even skulkier purposes, and with little or no notification.

I am prompted to once again ask, afore we go too far off the deep end, here:

Has anyone found an alternate source for this?
I'd sure like to see it.

Fred

[hollylindin]

Originally Posted by Scarab

Free will.

^
This. <3

[Fredkc]

it's hillarious when they start reading all the side effects that could happen and then your like -why would I take that?

Incredible, isn't it? Some of my favorites:

1. "The Purple Pill" for indigestion (acid reflux) has a side effect of...... (wait for it)

Indigestion!

2. There is a diet pill, "guaranteed" to make you lose weight (I forget the name). It has an openly-stated side effect of causing Lymphoma!

So I guess the idea is, you may die of cancer, but you'll leave an elegantly svelte corpse.

3. Chantrix (Just saw this yesterday) This one is to help you quit smoking in just 9 weeks. In the disclaimer they said that:
Chantrix helped 22% of those tested to quit within the 9 week period.
and...
Of those tested with a placebo, within the 9 wk. period, 18-20% stopped smoking within the same time. So...

Why not just market a placebo for $3/pill and save themselves, and us, a lot of wear and tear?

Oh! It also came with the usual, "Stop taking Chantrix if you experience uncontrolled suicidal thoughts" warning.

I swear, they outa sell tickets! (I'd buy one)
Fred

[Céline]

Lithium stole my passion

[Swanny]

If I could afford it I would buy one of these http://www.ecoloblue.com/

[Steven]

Lithium can also worsen the case of psychotic people, a lot. It can indeed make them psychopath.

I got a dear friend who was diagnose bi-polar by a bad psychiatrist. They give her lithium and a couple weeks later, she was putting Montreal city upside down. She woke up in jail, completely zombie.

She phoned me not knowing what was happening to her. She told she was partly conscious of her acts, but unable to control herself, like if she was controlled by someone crazy.

She changed her "psy" and got diagnose as weak psychotic, a very serious mental illness, because the next step is psychopath where there is no coming back.

Who knows what crazy intention they might have with this idea...

Namaste, Steven

[Moxie]

I'm curious what dose these patients were given as lithium is required, even critical for emotional stability. I'm not sure what trace amounts equates to, but I would guess it would be under 1 mg, or in micrograms.

[Shairia]

I was under the impression that we already had trace amounts of tranquillizers in our water supply (at least in the states). So now they want to add more to it?

[Connecting with Sauce]

So glad I distill my water supply...

What gets me is the amount of people that do not think I'm mad and listen to my research and STILL drink the water when I say it has poison in it!

If you believe in homeopathy what effects do you think applying sodium fluoride to the water supply has? Even a small amount...

http://writerspiece.blogspot.com/200...at-poison.html

"Sodium Fluoride water solutions are the cheapest and most effective rat killers known to chemists: colourless, odourless, tasteless, no remedy, no hope: Instant extermination of rats."....Dr. E.H. Bronner, Mfg.Research Chemist, Los Angeles.) Nephew of Albert Einstein!

It seems the world has gone mad... or more to the point it is medicated!

[THE eXchanger]

Originally Posted by futureyes

once upon a time ... not that long ago ... their agendas used to be cleverly hidden ...
soon enough ... the truth of such began to surface ...
and we have observed how they ran around ... seeking cover ...
but their cloaks ... could no longer cover what they hide ...
and now ... more obvious have their agendas become ...
they seem to be like cornered animals ... snarling and still demanding control ...
oblivious to the fact of how much wiser we are becoming ...
and standing up to these beasts ...
and saying ... enough is enough ...
lithium now?

in an information age, the truth, it is told

[futureyes]

many years ago ... i was in a motor vehicle accident ... the result living with constant and intense headaches ...
about a year later ... i became depressed ... all avenues taken were to no avail ... the headaches persisted and the quality of my life was deteriorating ...
a 'specialist' ... decided i needed to be placed on lithium ... at the time ... i would have tried anything ... and i trusted this person ... of their knowledge ...
within days ... i became manic ... was beside myself ... literally ... i felt to be someone else ... and the me i once knew ... had taken a back seat ...
i felt i was going to go off the deep end ...
i was only on it for a couple of weeks ... 'low dosage' i was informed ...
they then decided it was beneficial to take me off it ...
long story short ... simply 'getting off' lith was not so effortless ... had a horrible experience and later read that i was not alone with what occurred ...
imo ... first hand experience with lithium ...

[FIIISH]

The side effects are such that, in one woman's case, even though it meant the difference between being able to hold a job - living an otherwise normal life, or living on the dole, she chose not to continue taking it.

Or being able to hold ANYTHING for that matter.

Tremors are a very common side effect of this particular drug.

As far as subduing the populace, many of these drugs have
emotional blunting as a side effect. YOU FEEL NOTHING, and I mean
nothing. Talk about a zombie.

Sincerely,
FIIISH *former zombie*