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Old 02-18-2010, 08:30 PM   #1
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Default Plane intentionally crashed into Gov. Buliding - Austin Texas

I don't know if this has been posted yet but I'm putting up because I thought people here might be interested in a plane being intentionally crashed into a government building.

For those who notice numbers, check out the time stamps on each article.

http://www.businessinsider.com/fears...-or-cia-2010-2

At this link you can read what they are labeling as the pilot's "insane" manifesto. Read it... it doesn't sound so insane to me:

http://www.businessinsider.com/josep...nifesto-2010-2

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Old 02-18-2010, 08:50 PM   #2
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Ya I saw it on the news channels and such, i find it highly symbolic myself, that poor guy.
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Old 02-18-2010, 10:03 PM   #3
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his 6 page letter

http://www.thesmokinggun.com/archive...102stack1.html

(likely an idea to post it all - since, likely it will be taken down too)
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Old 02-18-2010, 10:26 PM   #4
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The man writes very well, and doesnt come across as an aimless killer or as suicidal. So at the risk of sounding all conspiratorial, something doesnt smell right with this whole thing. So who will benefit? Yall know the answer to that one.
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Old 02-18-2010, 11:09 PM   #5
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The man writes very well, and doesnt come across as an aimless killer or as suicidal. So at the risk of sounding all conspiratorial, something doesnt smell right with this whole thing. So who will benefit? Yall know the answer to that one.
I am going to have to agree. I will not speculate as to the exact meaning of all this. It will show eventually. But Just from the looks of the reporting, I feel that this is something involved with agency help.

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Old 02-18-2010, 11:54 PM   #6
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The whole thing stinks if you ask me. Crashes a plane at full speed into a building and only one person is killed? Does not add up. Lets see here, where have we heard this before.

Man becomes disgruntled with the American Government. Then that man battles with the American Government for a few decades. Then he flies a plane into the side of a building.

ERRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRR?

If they role out any new laws against speaking out against the government because if this then you will know it that it stinks to high heaven.
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Old 02-18-2010, 11:55 PM   #7
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You realize they could now classify anyone who speaks out against the policies of the government as a terrorist now right?
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Old 02-19-2010, 12:14 AM   #8
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You realize they could now classify anyone who speaks out against the policies of the government as a terrorist now right?
They have already done that,

But in all retrospect they could be using this as an axcuse to over tax austin again to do what ever., last time they raised taxes was to the smoker and claimed they needed the money to help build up the school system, so i waited 6 months down the road then took a trip to my sons school, the only change i saw where flat screen tv's in the main office with school and local comercials on it and one extra in school police officer.

It looks like a local version of 911 to me.
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Old 02-19-2010, 01:50 AM   #9
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Sad..... but the guy was no dummy.
You cannot do a suicide on a Life Insurance policy and collect, without the premium going 2 years.
So.... To cover his debt and take care of his family..
He
A) Torched the house to collect on the house insurance.
B) Commited suicide so his wife and child could collect on the life insurance premium.
C) Showed IRS he was unhappy with their Gestapo tactics thinking he was destroyed.

I don't know what the IRS will collect with his wife being the inheriter.
I don't know his estate planning.
I really dont think he torched his house and died without thinking a little farther into it.
I will not even argue the morality of it.
I believe that's it motive.
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Old 02-19-2010, 02:49 AM   #10
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just read on wearechange that mainstream news is suggesting this is the work of a "tea party" extremist

honestly, the guy's writing is not insane. it's totally rational and makes perfect sense.

Do I agree with his decision? Not really, but I can't believe the media is taking THAT angle with this!
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Old 02-19-2010, 04:35 AM   #11
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Agreed.
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Old 02-19-2010, 06:21 PM   #12
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Either way, the out come for the masses will not suit well.
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Old 02-19-2010, 06:32 PM   #13
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Either way, the out come for the masses will not suit well.
I don't live in the U.S and haven't been there for many years.

But just an outside perspective, they look getting closer and closer to Martial Law type governance. God Forbid.
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Old 02-19-2010, 08:22 PM   #14
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I just received this link in my email:

Please bare in mind that this is a personal blog

http://wakeup1776.blogspot.com/2010/...joe-stack.html

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Old 02-19-2010, 08:42 PM   #15
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I don't live in the U.S and haven't been there for many years.

But just an outside perspective, they look getting closer and closer to Martial Law type governance. God Forbid.
How so?

The crime rate all over the states are going down...
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Crime_in_the_United_States

Not sure why some people are feeling this way... (probably alot of TV)

But there has been a great peace growing where I live....

Each see more of it everyday...

There is something to be said about the things that people give energy too.. but that is for another thread...

To those who lost there lives.... welcome home..
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Old 02-20-2010, 04:18 AM   #16
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Default The Tea Party

As I said a few days ago, "We the People" have had enough...

Where is Ron Paul who has always been in favor of shutting down the IRS? Why isn't he stepping forward making a point of what the IRS did to this man was wrong?

Where are the leaders of the tea party standing up to make this man a hero for his actions. The man should be looked at as a Martyr for their cause?

Oh yeah they aren't true patriots wanting changes for the country to free the people from Tyranny, they are just a political party using a symbol of American History for their own gain...

The truth is he fought for thirty years inside the law and it did nothing, he needed to make a statement so big that it would be spoke of for the next hundred years.

He has become a true Martyr...

Yes the media who first showed him sympathy twisted the story so by the end of the day were pushing how he was crazy. But all of us know he wasn't, he was sane to the moment he planted the plane into an alphabet agency...

I don't mind speaking to all of you flat out, because I am already on the National terrorist watch list for pushing to produce automobiles that use no gasoline.

I am an advocate of true energy and they even had the IRS come after me...

but I am not a Government paid employee so by law I really don't owe any taxes and if they pushed I could ask for a full refund of everything I paid through my life.

It was amazing how quickly they backed off when I brought it up...

There is no question by anyone reading what I share that I am angry with the system, my bloodline goes back to Washington the Father of this country, and it is boiling.

I have no power or money to push against a corrupt system, but I do have a voice and a forum that allows me to share what needs changing. It is followed closely by the alphabet agencies so I already know the people I want an audience from is reading what I write.

My emails are monitored and some erased right before my eyes, my phone lines are tapped the websites I visit are monitored. Big Brother is all over my ass... They even hacked my system modifying Internet Explorer so I couldn't speak in this forum, but I just opened Firefox to keep talking...

I hope Fulford is right and that the veils are about to come down and the world is about to change for the better.

A few piddly trillions isn't going to stop the worlds poverty, but if the Vatican and Mormons opened their vaults and liquidated gold holdings while it is at $1100/oz to give to the people...

Now that... Would make a difference...

remember all the Rothchild's hold is a pile of paper...
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Old 02-20-2010, 05:33 AM   #17
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INTIONALLY



This is the same story as LOST.
KATE AUSTIN POWERS
7 STORIES = 7 HATCHES OR CHAKRAS
IRS=IRIS OR PINEAL GLAND=EYE LAND

STEVE AUSTIN WAS A HIGH RANKING FREE MASON HENCE AUSTIN TEXAS
AU = GOLD
S = KUNDALINI
TIN = JUPITER THE TIN MAN WHO HAS NO HEART-AKA HEAVY METAL, WITH AN AX TO GRIND.

JOSEPH AND MARY PAYS TAXES TO THE IRIS
JOSEPH = PINEAL GLAND = ELETRIC--COLOR GOLDEN HONEY FLUID
MARY = PITUITARY GLAND= MAGNETIC- WHITE FLUID SECRETION
THE STACK IS THE 7 CHAKRAS
THE NAME ANDREW IN GREEK MEANS MANLY OR VALOR
ANDREW = NEW FIRE OF ARIES
ANDREW WAS CRUCIFIED ON A CROSS OR AN X= TEXAS OR TAXES

SORRY ABOUT THE CAPS






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Old 02-20-2010, 06:53 AM   #18
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ATTENTION TO DETAILS--HERE'S JOE STACK WITH HIS AXE

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Old 02-20-2010, 07:56 AM   #19
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How so?
The crime rate all over the states are going down...
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Crime_in_the_United_States
Not sure why some people are feeling this way... (probably alot of TV)
Hi Jonah,

Your assumption about watching TV is totally off. In fact what I'm being told directly by my American friends in the U.S is that almost anything is considered "domestic terrorism" now. I'm told that even a "family quibble" could be considered as such.

Granted each state is probably somewhat different, maybe your particular locale (California is it?) is more "lax" than others. Though I'm confident of the information I get from certain people.

I don't know why you're referring to crime rates, because for one what I'm suggesting has little or nothing to do with crime rates, and the other thing is wikipedia is mostly inaccurate and unreliable source anyway. Frankly I'm quite surprised people still use that as a reference. The only thing worse than TV is wikipedia.
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Old 02-20-2010, 07:58 AM   #20
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How so?

The crime rate all over the states are going down...
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Crime_in_the_United_States

Not sure why some people are feeling this way... (probably alot of TV)

But there has been a great peace growing where I live....

Each see more of it everyday...

There are too many people on here with a vested interest in martial law. I don't know why but there's no doubt that it exists. People actively want chaos on here.
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Old 02-20-2010, 08:09 AM   #21
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There are too many people on here with a vested interest in martial law.
I hope you're not suggesting that I actually have some vested interest just because I brought up the subject. Far from it friend.
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Old 02-20-2010, 08:11 AM   #22
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I hope you're not suggesting that I actually have some vested interest just because I brought up the subject. Far from it friend.
I've actually seen worse, especially a certain poster that the moderators love to shield from our criticisms.
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Old 02-20-2010, 08:14 AM   #23
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I've actually seen worse, especially a certain poster that the moderators love to shield from our criticisms.
lol...I'm pretty sure I know who you're talking about.

Anyway apologies for the off topic friends.
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Old 02-18-2010, 08:56 PM   #24
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I read no hint of insanity in his writings. However this act of violence will only serve the criminal's purposes. I'm sure the corporate media will put a spin on this that only serves them.


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Old 02-18-2010, 08:58 PM   #25
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If the manifesto is really Joe Stack's, then he has been given a "voice." It makes me sad that he did it in this way...and I don't think he was insane...just driven to the overwhelming desire to make the insanity of our present situation a "talking point." For that, good for him. I can totally relate to what he said. I know that most Americans are scared sh!tless that big bro will find some way to punish them for nothing...we are not asleep, guys, we are afraid. There is sometimes wisdom in keeping your head low. This, of course, is to the benefit of the ones controlling and sucking away our only savings. I feel like I'm living in a bad science fiction movie. Or reading about the communists in the 1950's and 1960's in the history books. But it's all too true. God help us all.
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