Illuminati Reveal Crazy Apocalyptic Agenda:hidden hand dissection.

[Antaletriangle]

http://www.henrymakow.com/the_cabali...harvest_y.html

by Henry Makow Ph.D.

"Thrust in your sickle and reap, for the time has come for you to reap, for the harvest of the earth is ripe." Revelations 14:15


The world may soon resemble Jonestown if a sick Illuminati plan to "harvest" souls in 2012 comes to pass. For a week in October, a person claiming to be a "generational member of a Ruling Bloodline family" answered questions on abovetopsecret forum .

Using the moniker "Hidden Hand," he gave a convincing explanation of the demented Cabalistic beliefs motivating the Illuminati. He described how they find this world consciousness ("Third Density") to be "very constricting and uncomfortable" and want to be united again with Lucifer ("the One," the "Creator.") This will require them to stage an apocalyptic human sacrifice ("harvest of souls") in 2012.

The background according to "Hidden Hand" is this: Yahweh had been running a "benign dictatorship" in the Garden of Eden. He made a pact with the Luciferians (Illuminati) to introduce evil into the world, so man will have Free Will to choose between right and wrong, and thus evolve spiritually. Yahweh didn't expect man would choose evil. As result, the Illuminati rule the world but now find it a tedious place. They intend to create the intense evil (selfishness, "negative polarity") required for them to rendezvous with their spaceship, as it were. Remember, this is an insane satanic cult which just happens to control the planet.

At the "Harvest" evolved souls will enter the "Fourth Density" with the Illuminati and enjoy a "Golden Age," while everyone else's soul will be transported to a "replica earth" where they will continue to "work on themselves." The scenario is reminiscent of the "Left Behind" series where Christians suddenly disappear into heaven, and non-believers are left behind to face the Tribulation. I don't think this is a coincidence.

MANDATORY: NIKE RUNNING SHOES

In an excerpt from over 60 pages, "Hidden Hand" says:

"Yes, the noonday Winter Solstice Sun of December 21st, 2012 is the time when the Lord of The Harvest shall return. You might know him as "Nibiru. Read up on the Mayan Prophesies and Calendrical events for more detail upon how the actual Galactic and Universal Cycles work."

"There will be dramatic changes to your climate and weather conditions over the next few years, as the time of the Great Harvest approaches. You will see wind speeds surpassing 300 miles per hour at times. There will be raging tsunamis and widespread devastation; and a solar emission in late 2009 early 2010 that will cause major melting of the ice caps, and subsequent drastic rise in sea levels, leaving many (international) metropolitan areas underwater....San Francisco and Damascus, will be uninhabitable by the end of 2010, possibly even sooner. Again, it depends upon certain 'forces' at play, and which time lines are activated. Humanity, though utterly unconscious of the fact, has a significant part to play in this. You (as a collective consciousness of the planet) are choosing the Negative Polarization by default, by the quality of your thoughts and actions. Thought is creative energy, focused. You get exactly what you put out."

Decide for yourself whether this information is valid. It fits into the puzzle picture I have assembled about a long-term Cabalist plan to deliberately fulfill prophesy and initiate an apocalypse. For example, "Historian Demands Action on Powerful Doomsday Cults," "What Every Jew and Non-Jew Should Know," "Independent Historian Unveils Cabala Conspiracy,"
and "Illuminati Rebel Issues Dire Warning."

"Hidden Hand" explains:

"The End of this [26,000 year] Cycle, heralds literally, a New World Age, and a New Creation. A new Heaven, and a new Earth, and is the time of the Great Harvest. Smaller Cycles yield a Harvest, and then life continues on the planet as normal. Great Cycles yield a Great Harvest, and the end of current life on the 3rd Density. See it as a kind of 'Cosmic jet wash' and deep clean, while the planet takes a rest and regenerates herself.. When this Life-Cycle Ends, "All things will pass away, and All things shall be made new".

"So, December 21, 2012 AD, is not the day where all of a sudden the lights go out, and everything will suddenly change, rather, we are NOW in the process of this transition, from one World Age to the next. The changes are underway and will continue steadily accelerating as we head towards the culminating date. The 26,000 year cycle is composed of 5 lesser cycles, each of which are 5,125 years in duration. Each of these 5 cycles is considered its own World Age or Creation Cycle. Our present great cycle (3113 B.C. - 2012 A.D.) is called the Age of the Fifth Sun."

"If we do not have a Negative Harvest, we are bound with you for another cycle....We need a Negative Harvest, so that we can create our 4th Density Earth, and clear our Karmic Record..."

EVIL IS "FOR YOUR OWN GOOD"

"Hidden Hand" says the Illuminati create "War, Hatred, Greed, Control, Enslavement, Genocide, Torture, Moral Degradation, Prostitution, Drugs, all these things and more," for our own good.

"In all these Negative things, we are providing you with tools. But you do not see it. It is not what we do, but how you react to it, that is important. We give you the tools. You have the Free Will choice how you will use them. You have to take responsibility. There is only One of Us here. Understand that, and you will understand the Game."

"Understand, that we HAVE to be Negative. That's what we were sent here to be. It is our contract, and it has always been to help you, by providing the "Catalyst" I spoke of earlier. Being Negative is very hard for us, not on a physical level, (the characters we play enjoy our roles, as we're programmed that way), but on a Spiritual level, it is hard. We surpassed the lowly negative vibrations eons ago. We are Light, and we are Love. It is a very hard thing for us to do Spiritually, to create all this Negativity, but we do it because we love you, and it is for your highest good, ultimately. You could say, that it is our Sacrifice that we have made, in order to be of Service to the One Infinite Creator, and to you, our Brothers and Sisters in the One."

Just so there is no doubt whom the Illuminati worship: "Our Creator, is the one you refer to as 'Lucifer', "The Light Bearer" and "Bright and Morning Star". Our Creator is not "The Devil" as he has been spuriously portrayed in your bible. Lucifer is what you would call a "Group Soul" or "Social Memory Complex", which has evolved to the level of the Sixth Density, which in effect, means that he (or more accurately "'we") has evolved to a level sufficient that he (we) has attained a status equal or arguably 'greater' than that of Yahweh (we have evolved higher than him). In appearance, were you to gaze upon Lucifer's fullest expression of our Being, the appearance would be that of a Sun or a "Bright Star". Or, when stepping down into a 3rd Density vibration, we would appear as what you may term an 'Angel' or 'Light Being'."

"Hidden Hand" says the media plays a major role in creating the negative meme and making us unwitting collaborators.

"Why do you think the Media is so important to us? You have (as a society), in your hypnotized comatose state, given your Free Will consent to the state your planet is in today. You saturate your minds with the unhealthy dishes served up for you on your televisions that you are addicted to, violence, pornography, greed, hatred, selfishness, incessant 'bad news', fear and 'terror'. When was the last time you stopped, to think of something beautiful and pure? The planet is the way it is, because of your collective thoughts about it. You are complicit in your inaction, every time you 'look the other way' when you see an injustice. Your 'thought' at the sub-conscious level of creation to the Creator, is your allowance of these things to occur. In so doing, you are serving our purpose."


CABALA

The Illuminati dogma is pure Cabalism (Occultism) which sees chaos and destruction as a prerequisite to change. The Creator as "sparks" trapped in our bodies which requires that the world be smashed in order to release Him. "Hidden Hand" tells forum members:

"You are indeed what you call "Divine Souls"; you are sparks or seeds of The One Infinite Creator. You are Life Itself (Light), remembering and learning who you really are (we came here to help you to do this) and yes, currently, you are trapped (or more accurately "Quarantined") within the 'matter' of this planet you call Earth."

"You can thank your Creator Yahweh for that. You are the 'offspring' or individuations of his Group Soul (or Social Memory Complex). Macrocosmically speaking, you ARE Yahweh. The 'Karmic' effect of his imprisoning us in his Astral Planes, also has an impact upon you. I cannot be more specific on this, without impinging on the Law of Confusion. You must work it out for yourselves."

For an evil do-er, "Hidden Hand" spent most of his time coaching forum members on avoiding the Illuminati traps and listening to their "inner voice" so they will be released from the wheel of reincarnation during the "Great Harvest."

"You will never be 'free', for as long as you are incarnating on this planet. The very nature of your being here, is indication of that. There is a reason why you are here, and 'here' is very likely not really where you think 'here' is. How do you become free? By working out where you are, and coming to an understanding, of why you are here. You are fast running out of time to do so, before the coming Harvest. Those that don't make it, will have to repeat the cycle."

By the end of the week, most of the forum members are eating out of the guru's hidden hand. The exceptions are, ironically, a "lower level mason" who accuses him of rehashing New Age Theology. The guru acknowledges that the "Ra Material" and "the Law of One" are 85-90% accurate. He says the "Ra Material" is "very similar to the knowledge my Family has, and have passed down for many many generations."

A Christian reader correctly sees "an elaborate ruse to 'make the devil look good.' I don't think there are many conservative Christians that would be able see the difference between the biblical Lucifer and the Lucifer you purport to be a part of."

But she asks for his advice in overcoming this obstacle.


NEW INFORMATION ABOUT THE ILLUMINATI

"Hidden Hand" claims to belong to one of 13 Bloodlines that have ruled the world from the dawn of time. They are "Houses" performing functions like organs in a body, which is the "Family" united in the common cause. They all have an area of specialty: Military, Government, Spiritual, Scholarship, Leadership, and Sciences. They hold key positions in all of these main areas. With the addition of a complicit Media machine and ownership of Financial establishments, all bases are covered.

Writing in Oct, he said a certain faction wanted to call off the US election. "If nothing happens to Obama, he will win. Remember, behind the scenes, there is only One Party. Our Party. 'Democracy' is an illusion which is created to uphold your slavery. Whichever side 'wins'; the Family wins. There are many possibilities and alternative 'scripts'. All of them lead toward the ultimate implementation of the overall blueprint of our Creator" [i.e. Lucifer.]

He says he is only a "regional" leader (as opposed to national or international) but his information is that, barring "unforeseen disruptions" there will be "a new currency by the end of 2008 / early 2009, along with a new Union of nations. January has been spoken of in some circles, as the latest, though there are plans underway which could even bring this to fruition much earlier than initially hoped for. It depends upon the results of other upcoming events as to how this will play out."

Asked if "911" was the creation of a "star gate," he replied, "No, it was a Ritual Human Sacrifice. That, and the obvious catalyst for the so-called 'War on Terror'."

He confirms that "Svali" was "a part of the Family, at the lower levels, from the German Lines I believe. As I understand, she did reveal a lot of truth about the lower levels, but she was only Regional Level in the Earth Lines, so not that high. She certainly would not have had anything like the "bigger picture."

He says the Rothschilds etc. belong to "earth-based" bloodlines. "The Earth lines are not aware of the entire picture. They themselves are not of our Lucifer Group Soul, and as far as they are aware, they are out to 'rule the world', to Control and Enslave, and create as much Suffering and Negativity as is humanly possible. That's what they 'get out of the deal'. World Domination. You'd have to say with that in mind, they're doing a great job. But one of the things they don't know or understand, is that our (Venusian Power Lines) agenda, is ultimately for the Highest Good of all concerned, in providing you with the Catalyst. If they were aware of this Truth, there is a slight risk that they would not have done their jobs properly, and they would miss out on joining us in our 95% Negative Harvest. They are aware of the Harvest, and the need for them to attain the 95%, to get out of 3rd Density, and that is all the motivation they need to help us achieve our ultimate aims".

ILLUMINATI STRUCTURE

"Starting at the bottom level, you have what we call "Local Cell Groups" or "Family Clusters". There will be anything from say five to thirty or so of these, depending upon the size of the town or city in question. Each Local area has it's own Council, comprised of Local Leaders representing the Six Disciplines of learning. There is also either a High Priest or High Priestess of The Order, who Serves their local community."

"Above this, you have the Regional Council, with the Leader of each Local Council representing their specific areas. Then the National Council, in the same vein, with the Leaders of the Regional Councils sitting to represent their Regions."

"Then you have the Supreme World Council above them all, with the National Leaders representing their Countries. Above this, is another group I cannot mention, who liaise with the "Hidden Hands."

"Then above this, there are many other levels of Leadership, purely from the Power Lines (the ones that are not of this planet.) The Supreme World Council, only know as much as is "Handed" down to them from us."

"In our Power Lines, we have a similar structure, with Local and Regional groups etc, though most of us are living in entirely 'different' types of communities than you would understand. All I shall say is that we are not "surface dwellers."

CONCLUSION: OUR SURVIVAL IS AT STAKE

In his own terms, "Hidden Hand" is credible but I regard him as insane, pretending to purity and talking about "service to others" while wreaking incalculable misery and mayhem on humanity. He offers invaluable insight into the hypocritical Illuminati mindset, always dressing their evil in pretensions of public service. For example, Communism is Satanism posing as working class rebellion.

To inflict so much suffering and depravity under the pretext of "testing" mankind and furthering evolution is preposterous. Aren't there enough tests in life without the Illuminati's hidden hand on the scale? If instead the Illuminati had exercised a positive influence, spiritual evolution would have taken place at an amazing pace. Retarding human evolution, not advancing it, is their real agenda. They want us to be their cattle.

I believe the harbor is best reached by setting your course and avoiding the rocks. In contrast, the Illuminati steer the vessel onto the rocks, as many times as it takes to sink it. This sick Cabalistic dogma is behind the blank gaze of our politicians and newscasters.

It's time to admit that humanity is under constant stealth attack by a sadistic and dangerous Satanic cult. Obviously, it is well organized and funded and has subverted every institution.

It's time we set aside occultism and used common sense. It's time we adopted simple morality, as in "Do Unto Others as You Would have Them do Unto You."

Unless we wrest control of this planet from the Illuminati, we are doomed, like Rev. Jones' followers at Jonestown. And we will deserve our fate. Hidden Hand is right. "You are complicit in your inaction, every time you 'look the other way' when you see an injustice." Let's be "Service Oriented" and reject the Illuminati -- their phony terror, fascist government and Satanic religion.Let's throw their kool-aid in their face.
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The cries of an abusive parent -

"It's for your own good!"

"I'm only doing it because I love you!"

"You'll thank me in the end!"

"It's your own fault!"


Every genocidal nutcase in history has been on a mission from God in one form or another. They always use the rationalisation that they are acting for the greater good, more to justify their actions to themselves than anyone else. When they do convince others all it does is help reassure them that they aren't the insane maniac that deep down they know themselves to be.

No matter how much flowery language they use to present their case you can always deconstruct it to statements similar to those above. By believing it you greatly increase the probablility that it will happen again, just as an abused child often goes on to be an abusive parent.

All the power, intelligence, education and supposed enlightenment these guys have and this is the best they can come up with? As far as I'm concerned all Hidden Hand's message does is confirm just how pathetic and desperate they really are. They've been exposed, they can't hide in the dark anymore so they make these desperate attempts to convince us that up is down and black is white.

[burgundia]

Originally Posted by Steve_G

The cries of an abusive parent -

"It's for your own good!"

"I'm only doing it because I love you!"

"You'll thank me in the end!"

"It's your own fault!"


Every genocidal nutcase in history has been on a mission from God in one form or another. They always use the rationalisation that they are acting for the greater good, more to justify their actions to themselves than anyone else. When they do convince others all it does is help reassure them that they aren't the insane maniac that deep down they know themselves to be.

No matter how much flowery language they use to present their case you can always deconstruct it to statements similar to those above. By believing it you greatly increase the probablility that it will happen again, just as an abused child often goes on to be an abusive parent.

All the power, intelligence, education and supposed enlightenment these guys have and this is the best they can come up with? As far as I'm concerned all Hidden Hand's message does is confirm just how pathetic and desperate they really are. They've been exposed, they can't hide in the dark anymore so they make these desperate attempts to convince us that up is down and black is white.

well said!

[milk and honey]

What gets me is just how elaborate and pervasive the plot really is. I've had my say about James' 'wingmakers' and others i see as the enemies of humanity (no less) but the 'Law of One' material from the "Ra" entity is right in there with them.

Henry Makow regards "Hidden Hand" as "credible but insane". Agreed. Credible insofar as he is in the camp of the liar and the lie. To me, the thing that stands out the most in the above article is that the "Ra" material was obviously tailor made by the same forces that inspire "Hidden Hand". You can see what marvelous use is being made of the "Ra" material to justify the rubbish being sold in the Q + A.

I've left the following link in several places here at Avalon over the past 3 months but i doubt a soul has yet read it. Here it is again for anyone who may have missed the scholarly article written by Cayce researcher William Hutton who reviews Wynn Free and David Wilcock's book : "The Reincarnation of Edgar Cayce". Hutton convincingly rejects Wilcock's claim that the 'Ra' referred to in the Cayce readings is in any way associated with the more recent "Ra material" channelled by Don Elkins and others including Wilcock himself.

Read it here: http://www.huttoncommentaries.com/ar...y=6&article=81

[islandman]

"I treat those who are good with goodness,
And I also treat those who are not good with goodness,
Thus goodness is attained.(Lao Tse 604 - 531 BC)


"Whether it is big or small, many or few, repay hatred with virtue." (Lao Tse 604 - 531 BC)

[Josefine]

Originally Posted by milk and honey

What gets me is just how elaborate and pervasive the plot really is. I've had my say about James' 'wingmakers' and others i see as the enemies of humanity (no less) but the 'Law of One' material from the "Ra" entity is right in there with them.

Henry Makow regards "Hidden Hand" as "credible but insane". Agreed. Credible insofar as he is in the camp of the liar and the lie. To me, the thing that stands out the most in the above article is that the "Ra" material was obviously tailor made by the same forces that inspire "Hidden Hand". You can see what marvelous use is being made of the "Ra" material to justify the rubbish being sold in the Q + A.

I've left the following link in several places here at Avalon over the past 3 months but i doubt a soul has yet read it. Here it is again for anyone who may have missed the scholarly article written by Cayce researcher William Hutton who reviews Wynn Free and David Wilcock's book : "The Reincarnation of Edgar Cayce". Hutton convincingly rejects Wilcock's claim that the 'Ra' referred to in the Cayce readings is in any way associated with the more recent "Ra material" channelled by Don Elkins and others including Wilcock himself.

Read it here: http://www.huttoncommentaries.com/ar...y=6&article=81

I have just posted on the thread 'What is 2012 - (Or the Great Harvest)' very much along these lines.

I was careless in giving the Hidden Hand material some credit when it was less than 20 pages long. It was in connection with 'The Actual Pindar' and my knowledge of him. What he experienced was a shift in perception that removed him from the myopia of the gameboard. He found the midway path, that of love, which unites the polarities. But he was not free to leave his position as the Pindar, the Queen's Bard. He was the 'property' of the Illuminati, but one who had found a way out of the reality game. He was freed to bless and to express unconditional love, something he did systematically for the remainder of his life.

I am grateful for your link, just shared it with my mate, who is very much into Edgar Cayce. Cayce said he had an incarnation as Ra-Ta in Egypt, end here is most likely the origin of the mix-up with the Ra material.

An interesting 2009 to you too!

J

[peaceandlove]

Originally Posted by islandman

"i treat those who are good with goodness,
and i also treat those who are not good with goodness,
thus goodness is attained.(lao tse 604 - 531 bc)


"whether it is big or small, many or few, repay hatred with virtue." (lao tse 604 - 531 bc)

Thank You!

[Czymra]

Wow, that's heavy stuff. Again I wonder what the difference between positivity and non-duality REALLY is. I am also reassured to find the same characters responding to this thread. Hello again.

I'll gladly follow this along for a while but sadly don't feel like I can contribute any discernment value. Can any of you pin down what these intricate lies boil down to? It can't be passivity as this is clearly stated but I can't see the forest for its trees here.

[Humble Janitor]

I have to admit that I'm confused so until I can make sense of the 2012 stuff, I will refrain from absorbing any more of it.

[BROOK]

Originally Posted by islandman

"I treat those who are good with goodness,
And I also treat those who are not good with goodness,
Thus goodness is attained.(Lao Tse 604 - 531 BC)


"Whether it is big or small, many or few, repay hatred with virtue." (Lao Tse 604 - 531 BC)

Islandman,

The best reply to this hidden had stuff....I read it over several times, and your reply answers it all
Bravo

[dagon]

( It's time to admit that humanity is under constant stealth attack by a sadistic and dangerous Satanic cult. Obviously, it is well organized and funded and has subverted every institution. )

heavy shi%. no different than what we have been hearing. so let me get this straight. were going to fight this by turning our tvs off. and look for some kind of enlightenment. a higher frequency or vibration. basically turing the cheek. and trying to find the right information. spreading love and positive vibs. ok. Ill work on my negativity. but Im already there in spirit.

I keep thinking about kicking these guys out. like the french revolution. only not a bloody. so ok, back to meditation.

and with all the different information out there. which is the path? its all getting very complicated. they own everything. control even what we read. ect. who knows what the truth is. there is a guru on every corner, no wonder the masses don't want to look at this stuff. just let me go back to pay my mortgage and feed the kids. good grief. when somebody figures this all out. could you please shoot me a copy. LOL. Im on board. but this rabbit hole just keeps getting deeper and deeper.



every religion is going to hell. accept ONE? what a mess. I feel so enlightened.

love to you all. is sarcasm humor negative? LOL..




happy new year!!!

[Josefine]

Originally Posted by dagon

1)(It's time to admit that humanity is under constant stealth attack by a sadistic and dangerous Satanic cult. Obviously, it is well organized and funded and has subverted every institution. )

2) I keep thinking about kicking these guys out. like the french revolution. only not a bloody. so ok, back to meditation.

3) every religion is going to hell. accept one? what a mess. I feel so enlightened.

4) love to you all. is sarcasm humor negative? LOL..

5) happy new year!!!

1) Yes, we are! Those who are attacking, feel superior to the rest of us. Some of them come from bloodline families that apply trauma based mind control to their young. The result is that they only reach an astral resting place in-between lives. They think this is the highest level. Systematically they are made slaves to this limited reality, that is all they can see. Maybe their leaders and instructors are off-planet or non-human entities with a limited plan of their own. Since they are slaves to this limited reality, they are panicking when humanity is about to wipe the sleep from their eyes. Then they apply more fear, horror and deception to us, as fear cuts us off from our highest level, which is spirit.
Some of them hope that the trauma we experience, will cut us off from spirit for a longer stretch, affecting more of our parallell lives. This is a possibility, and we can therefore say that this is 'the negative harvest' they are talking about.
(Some of what I have just said is hard to state unless one has accessed remote viewing, not necessaily my own.)

2. We ARE about to 'kick these guys out'. More and more of us are seeing the third density game for what it is! A shift in perception makes us see a higher level and we can see that we are not victims if we choose not to be. When we no longer play the game as victims, we literally withdraw power from their game, their power base weakens and crumbles. However, we are only kicking them out of their part of this addictive game, as we release ourselves from it. When we can do this without hating them or ourselves, we can see that we are truly one. This is how the release is total.

3. No religion or all religions may lead to a shift in perception. All religions started from a spiritual spark, a shift in perception on the part of the originator. But as soon as the originator is gone, people forget to listen within for their own truth, as there is always a direct connection to spirit, where we come from. Then religion becomes a tissue of empty words, as we are parroting someone elses interpretations. They become words piled on words. When we realize that a religion without words is the genuine thing, we become tolerant of any religion. When we are in touch with our genuine base through a shift in perception, we can live and let live.
All religions have people who are on a wordless path, just look for it. A loss of the fear of death and damnation is one of the strengths in this version of religion.

4. Sarcasm (not the kind that oozes of contempt) and humor is a quality straight from spirit! You will have noticed the inner smile on many Buddha figures? It could be from the latest joke he cracked up! So is dance, music, joy, play, empathy, curiosity. Enthusiasm literally means 'into God'. Our true frequency is vibrating with all these qualities. They are also antidotes to all the grusomeness that this age tries to heap up on us.

5. We will have a Happy New Year, no matter what it brings, once we have been touched by a gentle shift in perception!

Love you too!

J

[Ashatav]

Well...


EXELENT POST


This supports the idea of the "externalization of the hierarchy", that's means the Luciferic doctrine to the masses.


That's means New Age and authors like Deepak Chopra who is a Member of the Club Of Rome.


The Luciferic illuminazi are giving us That idiotness for a long time now to make we accept the "Harvest 2012" and that kind of ****.


Again confirms that the "voices in the head" of David Wilcock are luciferic powers like the ex-illuminati occultist Carolyn Hamlett says about the contactee's cases.

Now... the hidden hand religion are similar to what of the things you know?? New age? Yes is the same! Luciferianism.

Cheers and Don't be scamed!

[Carmen]

Josefine, what a beautiful intelligent enlightened reply. I just loved it. I loved your post also Dagon, I also felt confused to a degree. Our warrior spirit is sometimes at odds with the Love and Light bit!!! Josefines post just teased it all out and expained it beautifully.

Thank you

A lot of good responses in this thread.

Just to be clear, I am not attacking the Ra material in any way, only the way in which Hidden Hand has attempted to use it to justify the attrocities the Illuminati have perpetrated throughout known history.

The best way to sell a lie is to hide it within truth, and that's what I feel is happening here.

I wonder if Hidden Hand actually believes what he's saying or whether he's operating from a script. I tend to think he genuinely believes it, but all that indicates to me is just how effective brainwashing from birth can be.

Moreover, I think the Illuminati NEED to believe it: the desperate belief they are working for the greater good is the only psychological defense they have against the human consequence of their actions. A lot of people have stated that the elite don't have the same qualities of empathy and compassion that the rest of us have but I don't believe that; I believe deep down they are fully aware of what they have become and are acreaming in horror.

They need our love and compassion, even as we stand against them.

[Humble Janitor]

If they are working for the "greater good", whose greater good? That of their handlers or that of the people they oppress?

I refuse to believe that it's the latter because they are systematically poisoning people and destroying everything that humankind has worked for in their foolish pursuit of total control (which by the way, they will never have!).

[Czymra]

Originally Posted by Carmen

Josefine, what a beautiful intelligent enlightened reply. I just loved it. I loved your post also Dagon, I also felt confused to a degree. Our warrior spirit is sometimes at odds with the Love and Light bit!!! Josefines post just teased it all out and expained it beautifully.

Thank you

Must agree, thank you and bravo!

[milk and honey]

Thanks Josefine, glad the link was useful. I liked your description of the real path too.

Originally Posted by Czymra

Wow, that's heavy stuff. Again I wonder what the difference between positivity and non-duality REALLY is. I am also reassured to find the same characters responding to this thread. Hello again.

This question is one that is very difficult to illuminate with words because in the realm of duality everything can be argued against with the same words. I don't say therefore that words are useless. Just that some questions are more amenable to them than this one.

First consider that everything that appears in the material plane appears as a polarity of duality. I don't say that it is, but that it appears to be a polarity of duality. That is, some manifestations are really the expression of the mind of Christ but the dualistic mind (or the mind of anti-christ) may judge them to be bad, unhelpful, threatening or dangerous. Actions can be percieved according to the standards of the dualistic POV as 'bad' or 'good' regardless of the impulsive origin of the action itself. Given that the dualistic mind has it's own set of standards it can percieve it's own delusions as 'good' and it can percieve the activity of the mind of Christ as 'bad'. It's judgements are totally arbitrary and in accord with societal norms, personal habit and the exigencies of self interest.

So the first thing to say about this tendency is that the outer-mind creates it's own standards based soley on the self-preservation of it's own dualistic POV. The second thing is that the reality of the mind of Christ is the only level of consciousness capable of percieving itself and therefore the illusion of the dualistic mind. The Christ mind IS. The dualistic mind thinks it is but can be proven - by the Christ mind - that it isnt. That's a good one. What i'm saying really is that a simple denial of duality by the outer mind does not prove that All is One. If we are to know Oneness then the Christ mind must transmute the dualistic mind.

Obviously, given the limitation of words and the dualistic mind, it could be asserted that i'm perpetuating notions of duality myself by using dualistic language, for example the "mind of Christ" and the "mind of anti-christ". That is why words are limited because the mind of Christ is not merely an opposite polarity of the dualistic mind. The vibration and intelligence of the Christ mind is above and beyond the arbitrary oppositional perspectives of the dualistic mind. It IS what it IS. I allow to call it "positive" without being 'accused' of dualistic thinking, so long as i explain what i mean... say ... in making the distinction between IT and the "negative" dualistic mind. The fact is, there is a vibrational demarcation between the inner mind of Christ and the dualistic polarities of the outer mind. It is condescension to refuse all descriptive terms on the grounds that 'All is One'. To that i would say, prove it. To do so, one must consciously realise the Christ mind. It is attained by degrees as the illusions of the dualistic mind are seen through and transmuted.

Would the same 'accusation' stand (of perpetuating separation) if i used the words "real" and "unreal" instead?, or "union" and "separation"?, or "harmony" and "discord"?, or "reality" and "illusion"?. It probably would but from the perspective of the soul aspiring to Oneness it would be no more valid because in a dualistic world the work of discernment can't be overlooked or avoided by claims that 'All is One'. It can't be an excuse to tolerate the darkness within on the pretext of maintaining balance. Balance is found only at the center. Only personal experience of the mind of Christ can define the illusions of the mind of anti-christ within and without and transform them. From that real POV in the heart of Self one percieves the illusion of the dualistic mind at the periphery of self. It is the beginning of wisdom as the soul begins to separate itself from the matrix of illusion. In the process, the tares of consciousness are separated from the wheat.

This is what i tried to point out to ENdJOY on a 'wingmakesr' thread; that the darker "negative" aspects of the psyche need to be transmuted. But he insisted that this was unnecessary because "All is One". He countered that i was merely asserting a personal value judgement about those "negative aspects" of the psyche (of hatred, fear, envy, etc) rather than a scientific statement of the law of harmony and vibration as a prerequisite to the full indwelling of spirit in the human instrument. Without the vibrational transformation of consciousness there is no conscious Oneness with Christ and no ascension of the soul. That's easy, just deny the necessity of vibrational self transformation and dismiss the reality of ascension as an archaic misapprehension by nitwits. I only mention my exchange with ENdJOY to point out that the necessity to use terms of vibrational distinction (negative/positive, dark/light, etc) is too easily dismissed as "ignorant dualism". This is how easily truth can be dismissed. Either by the denial of language as a necessity to define essential choices, the denial of the law of harmony itself or by the assertion that the STS vibe will also get you where you need to go.

If spirit and matter are to be proven ONE through the heart of man and woman, some questions arise. In the outer world of self and environment, what is in vibrational alignment with inner reality? In the outer world, what is the product of the inner- Self? And what is the product of the oppositional mind of anti-christ? Both are manifested in personal consciousness and in the objective world but are considered oppositional only from the POV of the dualistic mind. The spiritual heart is the real judge of all that. It is qualified to define reality and the forces which oppose it because it percieves perfectly. Based on the rock of spiritual perception the Christ mind can act through the human instrument to form and reform worlds. It can act to align the outer worlds with inner reality. It simply IS and acts on divine impulse. Nothing outside of it (vibrationally) can define it.

[Czymra]

Dear Milk and Honey, I am truly and deeply humbled by this post.
You speak from within me with words and formations that are most unknown yet so understood (and this contradiction makes no sense to me).
This is well beyond any of the hair-splitting I've come across in ANY book, or any other source, be it Wingmakers or 'Zen literature', so far and it makes me shiver in a cold-warm sensation of awe and anticipation.
Thank you SO much for taking the time to explain.

Sincerely,
Czymra

[milk and honey]

Originally Posted by Czymra

Dear Milk and Honey, I am truly and deeply humbled by this post.
You speak from within me with words and formations that are most unknown yet so understood (and this contradiction makes no sense to me).
This is well beyond any of the hair-splitting I've come across in ANY book, or any other source, be it Wingmakers or 'Zen literature', so far and it makes me shiver in a cold-warm sensation of awe and anticipation.
Thank you SO much for taking the time to explain.

Sincerely,
Czymra

Thankyou Czymra. There is no contradiction here really. The Christ within you knows these things and confirms truth by whispering in your soul. May it expand and purify the alloy of consciousness.

[KathyT]

For those coming to this thread and wanting to see the original collated text of the Hidden_Hand message... I have it here:

http://home.comcast.net/~readingnews/Hidden_Hand.html

[IndigoChild1986]

Originally Posted by Humble Janitor

I have to admit that I'm confused so until I can make sense of the 2012 stuff, I will refrain from absorbing any more of it.

lets meet up all together and meditate for the positive

[IndigoChild1986]

Hip-Hop & the Illuminati New Age Agenda pt.1/3>>

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YW1YReq7KsQ

This video examines the various agendas that are CURRENTLY being pushed through Hip Hop and the direction they are moving us in.
Secular New Age and Military Draft.

This work is a mixture of conversations from Alan Watt, Tupac Shakur & “Gwapo’s” weekly Radio Show.

Masonic references in music:
http://www.freemasonry.bcy.ca/fiction/music.html

Alan Watts site: http://www.cuttingthroughthematrix.com/

Gwapo’s Radio Show:
http://www.talkshoe.com/talkshoe/web...d=25180&cmd=tc

Gwapo360’s Channel:
http://www.youtube.com/user/gwap360

[Ross H]

Ive read all the 66 pages of the hidden hand threads, along with countless other books ect...after years of research, dwelving into all kinds of info...my take on it all, is this: Its all about experiencing. Not a question of whats right and wrong but more a question of examining ones experiences and figuring out 'what serves you best'...everything we think, do , act upon, resonates through the emotion one feels, this is the key in my opinion. What resonates the best for me is simply this: All one has to do is to be of love and value to all. that simple. Its all we have control over. nothing more.

Peace

[Phtha]

My opinion, Theres lots of positive stuff to take from both the hidden hand posts and the Ra materials.
I'm sure we have all heard the saying: "There is nothing to fear besides fear itself". I'm still grasping the depth of this profound concept, but I am sure it is true.

Reality really is nothing but vibration. Hitler and the Nazis proved it in the past, and many others throughout history right up to the US army, are able to make mass amounts of people commit atrocities, simply by creating strong vibrations of thought and feelings in the ether that ensnarl those that do not understand the mind, or that identify themselves with their minds. Usually its done with strong fear vibrations. I'm sure many of the Nazi soldiers would never have guessed that they could do some of the things that did before they were caught up in the vibrations created by Hitler and co.

It's the same thing with hidden_hand, the illuminati and others, they are all ensarled with thought vibrations and unable to see beyond.

There is limitless possibilities for all of us, as long as we keep our inner self sovereign from attacks. I truly believe that nothing can harm the sovereign mind, body, and spirit. So really there is nothing to fear if you don't allow yourself to experience fear.
And hidden_hand was right, all the iniquity we see today is because of ourselves. Sure the illuminati or whoever else created the evil vibrations in our ether, which we recieve, but we are the ones who are doing the evil for them. We have the power to simply say "no thanks."