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Old 10-31-2009, 01:17 PM   #1
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http://wolnemedia.net/?p=18049&lang=en
UKRAINE. The inhabitants of the western regions of Ukraine reached on an unknown disease, whose symptoms are diagnosed as pneumonia. However, health professionals say the unusual and very rapid course of illness, which has already led to a confirmed death of 40 patients.
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Old 10-31-2009, 09:53 PM   #2
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Hi,
looks like it is getting serious.
I hope the reports about the spraying are not true.

http://www.windsorstar.com/health/Uk...880/story.html

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Old 10-31-2009, 11:05 PM   #3
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Panic in Ukraine, Authorities Deny Aircraft Are Spraying Aerosols Over Cities, Martial Law Expected

'The office of Emergency Response in the district of Desniansko, Kiev, are tonight (30th Oct.) strongly refuting reports that light aircraft were spraying a substance over the city intended to counter a “swine flu pandemic” in Ukraine.

It was reported that light aircraft were seen over the Forest market area of the city (close to the Forest metro station) and they were spraying an aerosol substance intended to “counter swine flu”, this of course would constitute forced medication of the population.

The editors of local newspapers in Kiev received dozens of phone calls from concerned residents and shop owners in the Forest market area of the city reporting they had observed several light airplanes circling in the sky during the day spraying an unidentified aerosol into the atmosphere.

Local newspapers contacted government administrators in Kiev and were told that “no permission had been granted today (30th Oct.) for small aviation aircraft to fly within the city limits”. Also local FM radio stations in Kiev were regularly refuting the reports during broadcasts today, apparently under duress from local authorities.

Reports of helicopters and light airplanes spraying aerosols over Kiev, Lviv, Ternopil, and other cities throughout Ukraine are tonight flooding online forums and websites, hundreds of people have verified the reports with their own eye-witness accounts.'

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http://info-wars.org/2009/10/31/pani...-law-expected/


This is crazy stuff. Who in their right mind would allow spraying of their own people if the rumors are true.
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Old 10-31-2009, 11:07 PM   #4
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Old 11-01-2009, 12:55 AM   #5
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Ukraine’s Deadly Flu: Pretext for Mandatory Vaccination?
October 31, 2009 by Infowars Ireland

It comes as no surprise that Ukraine’s tinhorn dictator, Yulia Tymoshenko, has locked down parts of her country in response to the spread of the flu virus. Tymoshenko, after all, is an authoritarian mob boss. “Sometimes I really think that Ukraine needs dictatorship and rule of law. Only a dictator can maintain the rule of law in Ukraine,” she said not long ago. Bush said the same when he was the decider.
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Old 11-01-2009, 01:00 AM   #6
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Hi Burgundia, I was searching for information on this topic and missed this thread. I'm sorry to have posted my question about this without seeing this first. Please forgive.
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Old 11-01-2009, 08:04 AM   #7
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Hi Burgundia, I was searching for information on this topic and missed this thread. I'm sorry to have posted my question about this without seeing this first. Please forgive.
No problem. I am glad other people are interested in other parts of the world too...
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Old 11-02-2009, 06:00 PM   #8
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Now they have decalred pandemic in Bulgaria. 3 people have died.
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Old 11-02-2009, 06:21 PM   #9
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Ukraine, Kiev. (Sob. corr.) On November 2. As a result of the epidemic in California and flu symptoms in Ukraine 67 people died. At the treatment is more than 255 thousand citizens. Ukrainian President Viktor Yushchenko appealed for help to the leadership of Hungary, Romania, Moldova, Slovakia, Poland, USA, Switzerland and other countries. He believes that Ukraine itself can not cope with the epidemic. Slovakia sent 200 thousand gauze bandages, which is half of its reserve. Million armbands contributed Poland. Antigrippoznye drugs shipped Switzerland. Other countries also expelled different medicines. Customs officers have been instructed not to delay the shipment of medicines and bandages. In Ukraine, attended by representatives of the World Health Organization and the United Nations, to consult doctors and to determine the level of danger.

In the nine regions of Western Ukraine are closed and pre-school educational institutions. Defense Ministry banned the sending of conscripts in the army units. Prime Minister Yulia Tymoshenko outraged that pharmacies inflated the prices of drugs. It threatens to deprive them of their licenses. Security Service of Ukraine in Kiev on 19 closed pharmacies. All presidential candidates have postponed for three weeks of campaigning.

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Old 11-02-2009, 06:25 PM   #10
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I've always said 90% of of the people on this earth are good, law abiding individuals and it doesn't matter what country this is happening in , we all need to stand together and be concerned about one another whether it be 1 mile or 2000 miles away.

There are 153 schools closed in Michigan as of last friday, most were going to go back to school today. They are closing mostly for the regular flu, spotty cases of the swine flu are being reported.

It may be soon for all the angels in the heavens to band together to lend us a hand for us here on earth.
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Old 11-02-2009, 06:26 PM   #11
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another translated article: seems like we need to pay attention to wha'ts happening in Ukraine.

Urgent. In Ukraine walk viruses pneumonic plague and swine flu. The hospital will issue anti scorbutic suits?

As the "phrase" informed sources, to date 100% confirmed the diagnosis of pneumonic plague in Ukraine. Meanwhile, the head physician of the medical institutions sent out an informal disposal - not to sow panic, to refute the information about the plague, but to speak only of swine flu.

Also required to distribute at health facilities masks with 8 levels of protection suits and anti-plague protection. There is also an informal orders not to let the sick visitors.

According to our knowledge to date in Ukraine go parallel viruses and pneumonic plague, and swine flu. From the plague has killed over 60 people, and the flu - about 14 people.

Pneumonic plague is a particularly dangerous infections. This is one of the most aggressive infections that threaten human life, along with anthrax.

Typically, the agent of pneumonic plague is transferred ferrets, coney, other rodents, including rats, living in warm climates. They are the natural reservoir.

Disease begins acutely with a fever that appears suddenly and rapidly raise the temperature to 40gradusovS. Chill followed by fever, severe headache, dizziness, severe weakness, insomnia, nausea, vomiting, pain in the muscles.


They expressed intoxication, frequent violations of consciousness, frequent psychomotor agitation, delusions, hallucinations.

Typical lurch, facial flushing and conjunctival, slurred speech (patients resemble drunk).
His facial features are sharp, puffy, there are dark circles under his eyes, suffering facial expression, full of fear.

The skin is dry and hot to the touch, it is possible petechial rash, extensive hemorrhage (bleeding), darkening on cadavers.

Rapidly developing symptoms of damage of the cardiovascular system: expanding the boundaries of the heart, voicelessness tones, increasing tachycardia, falling blood pressure, arrhythmia, dyspnea, cyanosis.

Is characteristic type of language: thickened, cracked, crusts, covered with a thick white film.

The tonsils are often enlarged, wounded, on the soft palate hemorrhage.

In severe cases, the color of coffee ground vomiting, frequent loose stools mixed with mucus and blood. Urine is possible admixture of blood and the presence of protein.

There are two main clinical forms of plague: bubonic and pneumonic. In the pulmonary form (primary) appears hemorrhagic inflammation with necrosis of small lung lesions.

Then there are cutting pain in the chest, palpitations, tachycardia, dyspnea, delirium, fear of deep breaths.

Cough appears early, with plenty of viscous transparent, glassy phlegm, which then becomes foamy, liquid, rusty.

Chest pain increases, breathing sharply diminished. Typical symptoms of intoxication, the rapid deterioration, the development of infectious toxic shock. Forecast heavy, death occurs, usually for 3-5 days.

Ukrainians recommended shops to buy only sealed products. If the product is opened (bread, vegetables) - pour boiling water or put in the freezer for some time.

It is hoped that soon it will get colder. . At a temperature of minus 10 viruses do not last long.
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Old 11-02-2009, 07:00 PM   #12
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Thanks for the update. I agree that we need to pay attention to what is happening here. May be the tip of the proverbial iceberg.
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Old 11-02-2009, 07:22 PM   #13
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watch all those 6 videos on Yt....
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=A0JqQ...eature=related
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Old 11-02-2009, 07:40 PM   #14
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Another source to tune into.
Excerpt from a long article from David Rothscum website:
http://davidrothscum.blogspot.com/

This is a developing story, expect to see possible updates on David Rothscum Reports as more information on what is happening in Ukraine becomes available.

Update 1: For the purpose of keeping information from disappearing, I am going to mirror most information I can find on here.
Comments on the Huffington post website on an article about Moshe's arrest documenting his claim that the Influenza virus in a vaccine manufactured by Baxter in Ukraine replicates RNA from the 1918 flu and is meant as a bioweapon:


Update 2: The Ukrainian government wants to impose travel restrictions on people across the nation to stop the virus from spreading.

Update 3: According to the Huffington post comments I cited above, Dr. Moshe claimed that the virus used replicated RNA of the 1918 Spanish flu. Symptoms of the 1919 Flu include victims being drenched in blood:


American were familiar with the flu; it sent you to bed, made you miserable for 3 or 4 days with fever, muscle aches, and congestion, then left you shaky for about a week. It made millions sick, yet killed only the oldest, youngest, and most feeble.

The 1918 influenza was not the flu Americans were familiar with. It was a horror that turned victims bluish-black then drowned them with their own body fluids. the death toll was highest in the ages 15 to 40, those in the peak of health. The victims would be fine one minute and the next incapacitated, fever-racked, and delirious. Temperatures rose to 104-106 degrees, skin turned blue, purple, or deep brown from lack of oxygen. Massive pneumonia attacked the lungs, filling them with fluid; blood gushed from the nose. Death was quick, savage, and terrifying.

Compare this to reports that are coming out from Ukraine:

Five persons have died from the flue in Lviv, four men and one woman, says emergency hospital chief doctor Myron Borysevych.

Two of the dead patients were in the 22-35 age group, with 2 others over 60. He diagnosed the disease as viral pneumonia.

(...)

Viral tests can last from one to two weeks. They are complicated and not done in Lviv. The course of the disease was very quick. The symptoms included very high temperature and short-wind cough.
(...)

All the six dead young people had symptoms of severe hemmorhagic pneumonia. The disease starts slowly, with temperature rising to 37.2 – 37.3 degrees, slight cough and pain in joints. Nasal catarrh developed at the end of the second or third day. Autopsy revealed that the lungs were soaked with blood, the oblast chief specialist said.
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Old 11-02-2009, 08:21 PM   #15
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Update from RT network:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=d2_8S...layer_embedded
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Old 11-02-2009, 08:42 PM   #16
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From urbansurvival.com:

This is an email that George Ure recd:

"This story may be the most important of our lifetimes. I'm a retired Ph.D. biochemist FYI. I conjecture that much of the coming troubles the web bot project speaks of may well arise from this new flu variant. I note that the first cases appeared a few days ago, just the length of the incubation period from October 25th.

OK, a Mossad microbiologist warned two months ago that a new deadly flu bug was going to be released into Ukraine in two months. He got the place right, the bug right, and the time right.

The sequence of all 8 pieces of RNA in the virus that caused the "Spanish flu" pandemic of 1918-1919 is public knowledge. A long dead Inuit woman buried in the permafrost was dug up and the virus taken from her body a couple of years ago and the RNA pieces were sequenced. Quite simple to synthesize these 8 pieces with widely available commercial machines and reagents. Then transfect mammalian cells with the RNA genes to obtain the intact, fully functional, virus. Another quite well known technology. Then grow all you want in fertilized chicken eggs or a mammalian immortal cell line. More quite well known technologies.

What scares the sh*t out of me is that the bleeding in the lungs is exactly what killed a lot of folks in the 1918-19 pandemic. See the great book "The Great Influenza: The story of the deadliest pandemic in history ." People would literally fall dead walking across the street. The bleeding out of the lungs was most likely the result of a "cytokine storm" that so increased the vascular permeability in the air sacks that blood filled the lungs. The reason why the mortality in the 1918-1919 pandemic was concentrated in the 18-25 yo cohort was that they had the most active immune systems.

Now I've NO conjecture as to who may have let this loose or why. But I do know that the technology is widespread to replicate the 1918-1919 virus that killed 2-4 million Americans and about 50 million world wide. And folks only traveled by ship in 1918. And there is NO vaccine for this flu type.

Hopefully we will know in a couple of weeks the sequences of the 8 RNA pieces in the Ukraine virus. I'll bet the farm that it is a replicant of the "Spanish Flu." If so, the odds are totally infinitesimal that this was NOT a deliberate bioweapon release.

I note that long haul truckers will simply go home and park their rigs if this flu reaches the USA. And exactly what reason do we have to suppose that it will be confined to Ukraine? The average city has 3 days of food. Connect the dots... please...............
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Old 11-02-2009, 09:18 PM   #17
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Now they have decalred pandemic in Bulgaria. 3 people have died.
3 people a pandemic?
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Old 11-02-2009, 09:25 PM   #18
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More than 70 have died, and it doesn't resemble the NWO swine flu symptoms. This seems to be something else.
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Old 11-02-2009, 10:20 PM   #19
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More than 70 have died, and it doesn't resemble the NWO swine flu symptoms. This seems to be something else.
Maybe its the follow-up to the swine flu, much more lethal. Could explain why the supposed shortage of vaccines for the H1N1.....they probably decided to not waste any more money on that one, & instead put out this new virus, which appears to be more deadly & there is no vaccine for it.
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Old 11-02-2009, 10:38 PM   #20
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There's another strain coming from south america heading north as well. Might be time to saddle up and get ready for a bumpy ride, remember no fear based mentality, just reason.
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Old 11-02-2009, 10:51 PM   #21
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There's another strain coming from south america heading north as well. Might be time to saddle up and get ready for a bumpy ride, remember no fear based mentality, just reason.
have not come across anything of this one....where did you hear this......time to batten down the hatches......their coming at us from all sides
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Old 11-02-2009, 11:43 PM   #22
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Ex mossad agent claims the Ukranian outbreak is started by Baxter:

http://www.unfictional.com/joseph-mo...ccine-westwood
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Old 11-03-2009, 03:44 PM   #23
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I'm thinking it was argentina or that area, have heard it over interviews 2 or 3 times, Its was I think another form of the H1N1 . but there was definately something coming in from the south heading north.
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Old 11-03-2009, 05:01 PM   #24
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Here is an interview from yesterday. Jeff Rense interviews Dr. Henry Niman on the situation in Ukraine

http://www.rense.com/

Scroll down the page & the interview is right at the top of the list.

He paints a grim picture of the overall situation. Worth listening to.
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Old 11-03-2009, 08:00 PM   #25
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Seems I posted on a discontinued thread about this, but I'm gonna say the same thing here.

It is now claimed this is H1N1, nothing else. I don't get how they can say it's not H1N1, then completely turn around and suddenly say it is. Around here the media is using it as an excuse as to why we should take the shot. Is this why? More fear propaganda to scare the masses into vaccination?

http://www.who.int/csr/don/2009_11_03/en/index.html

I don't buy it, and neither does a few of my fellow countrymen which have pressed charges towards our health officials for actively spreading fear mongering propaganda and blatantly lie about the severeness and deadlyness of H1N1, not to mention the safety of the fluvaccine.

We got 29 official reports on severe/unusual sideeffects of the vaccine here now, along with one death that occured 3 days after a woman in her twenties took the shot. She was in the highrisk group for fatal H1N1. It's denied that the vaccine had anything to do with the sudden, unexpected death after taking the vaccine.

Compare that to, what, 5 deaths and severeal hundred reports of severe reactions in Sweden, I'm thinking numbers around here is hushed down.

Today it was mentioned on tv, right after childrens tv, that kids up to 14 years of age are in the biggest risk of getting this flu. I find this as a repulsive attempt to scare the kids, so they in turn will turn on their parents if they choose not to take the shot.

I'd kick some butts if I thought it would help, and I wasn't in need of darn crutches cause of my recent ancle surgery! :P
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